Ben Bergeron is a MORON

[@hillerfit]

Can we admit Ben is out of his depth here.

[@anjinussbaumer1029]

Ben has been out of his depth for a while now 😂

[@DMS1010]

Yes. He uses big words and wow there are always books in the background of his desk. So impressive.

[@hillerfit]

@@DMS1010 Note, no books and smaller words

[@hillerfit]

@@anjinussbaumer1029 2017?

[@DMS1010]

@@hillerfit noted lol

[@pisceanpaul]

Zack Talender nailed it on the head. Health and performance aren't synonymous, and recovery is crucial in elite performance competition. I wager most elite crossfit athletes are likely taking gear simply to dial in their recovery first and foremost, then to improve their strength and power.

[@hillerfit]

Zach is spot on. I really wish he could convince Derek to talk on it

[@mistameanor1]

He speaks like a politician using fitness language.

[@SuperDimitarmkd]

ben bergeron once said that rene descartes was wrong when he said: "I think, therefore I am" and that this was a wrong statement. Namely, when bergeron was meditating he wasn't thinking and was existing at the same time. When I heard that, I terminated my comptrain subscription immediately.

[@hillerfit]

Dude. The way I read that means he completely missed the point?

[@SuperDimitarmkd]

@@hillerfit the goal of descartes was to create a statement that assured him of his own existence. Since if you are thinking, you must exist. Our friend ben thought that he was smarter than one of the biggest philosophers in history. But to know this, you must read some books and not draw conclusions from partial information.

[@hillerfit]

@@SuperDimitarmkd Ahh I see. That is what I picked up, but wanted to be sure. Again Ben speaking in absolutes.

[@alrom125]

@@hillerfit “Ben speaking in absolutes”….Darth Bergeron?

[@NoyceB08]

Bergeron, the original CrossFit cheat. Most people don’t know him and his teammate were the first podium finishers to test positive 🤫

[@SPYLRS]

I know this is an old video but you just blew my mind. I did not know that. How is this not more well known?!

[@mattpeters6224]

A person that is secure in themselves, who really knows who they are doesn't tear other people down. It's that simple. It's called being uncommon among the uncommon. Goggins

[@hillerfit]

I also couldn’t believe he went as far to say “healthy.”

[@codierussell6587]

I notice a lot more of it in the womens field how low of body fat they have all year long. There is a discussion to be had about how they manage it (anavar *cough cough*)but the bottom line is having single digit body fat year round is not great for your body. Marcus Filly claims that he stays at 5% year round which most doctors would agree is not healthy.

[@hillerfit]

@@codierussell6587 When I think "health" I think living a day to day life with no pain and sickness. While most "athletes" are not sick (possible hormone profile messed up) then sure are beat usually

[@amorfati4927]

@@codierussell6587 I do always find the body fat % thing pretty funny as to how far people end up being off. Marcus is definitely lean but 5% is so friggin lean with so many striations like Helmut Strebl. Most lean people have their estimate body fat percentage off between 3-5%. Definitely right on body fat. Body fat of certain percentages is essential for the body. Women definitely run into hormonal problems if they dip quite a bit below healthy levels of body fat (and there are plenty of stories of missed cycles and other stuff). PED talk in elite sport is just exhausting to talk about at this because it’s so obvious. It’s just so much more obvious with the women because certain subsets of the population who think physically women can do anything men can do/have the same body fat percentages/so on and so forth basically denying biological reality just keep talking and know absolutely nothing of what they are talking about. And you’re not a misogynist to know and speak about biological realities… no matter how much people want to say you are.

[@codierussell6587]

@Amor Fati I completely agree. I would say most of the womens field sits around 10% which is extremely low for women. I also agree that the majority of women competing at this percentage are using something. The ones that do have more body fat I would say have a better chance at being natty. As much as I suspect someone like Dani Speegle is probably still using (or at least skirting around what is legal) personally I think she looks way more natural than say Tia. Even when you look at the mens field they look to carry more fat than most of the womens field which is counter-intuitive. Not to say that I don't think a lot of the men are using as well.

[@turntableable]

3:38 “It’s literally apples and oranges” - yup, Rhodes scholar stuff.

[@michaeldominick747]

Last minute of this video, “maybe I’ll be cool enough to hang out with….” And fast forward present day you got to hang with Castro and Glassman. Keep crushing it AH!

[@kennethdelapp2695]

I once had someone high up in the military tell me, "The secret to doing more pullups, is to do more pullups." Best advice ever

[@Zoet50]

Or you can just Kip

[@mccask]

Andrew nails it, again!

[@brendanziegler]

I love that most of your physique photos are from my events! I’ve truly seen your transformations firsthand! Lol

[@JakeChapman85]

Benjie B is basically the 48 year old woman hanging around with 21 year olds at the bar, banging on about shit she got up to in the 90s and insisting they listen to her.

[@Newtzz_]

🤣🤣🤣 Pin This!!

[@arturbcabral]

At this point Ben is just making a joke out of himself.

[@alrom125]

9:49 - actually you would first cut to around 10% bodyfat then slowly increase calories to put on muscle mass while maintaining as close to 10% as you can (reverse diet).

[@benjaminlara9038]

Oh shit! Hiller used my comment on this video. Get video as always.

[@hillerfit]

Well keep writing good comments!

[@KeithGreenshields]

One of these days Zack will be cool enough to hangout with you.

[@RonnieSportz]

I love the Charlie the unicorn reference 😂

[@davidboyle9732]

well bat-man, if david h is your joker, ben must be your riddler

[@the_bruce_wayne]

"a decade and a half" wtf!!! 😂😂😂

[@SeanDemers]

Spent about 5 months in the Boston area a few years ago and the place we were renting while we were there was right down the road from Tilt (one of Ben's gyms), so I signed up. The lack of volume was brutal, and I'm just an average mid 40 year old crossfitter. I don't do crazy volume, but when ever class you walk away feeling like you did next to nothing, it's crazy. I ended up by a bunch of stuff from Rogue so after I hit Tilt, I could head back to the house and put in some more work. His lack of volume at his box I would not be surprised if it carried over to his elite athletes.

[@jethrocardona9063]

Hiller/Matossian 2024

[@RogueCylon]

It comes down to the PEDs they are taking. You don’t want excess muscle in CF, but you do want to go for days and have fast recovery. The Tour De France has proven the subtleties of PEDs in endurance, being possibly the highest endurance level. People always seem to think about mass gaining PEDs rather than endurance based.

[@donwod6660]

For six years I was a natural competitive amature bodybuilder ( for real natural). I saw rampant drug use in a natty league. If you want bigger stronger faster EVERY SINGLE YR youre gonna have peds. You cant ask for inhuman outcomes while also asking for totally natty people.

[@AXEisHERE-r1j]

Pure unadulterated ego

[@jrgills]

How dare you not believe in magic Hiller…shun the nonbeliever! Shuuuuunnn! 😅

[@jrgills]

On a serious note, did that heavy conditioning on the bike help lower your HR for workouts in later years and now? I can do most skills in wods but my HR jacks up so high I’m inefficient and always in zone 4-5. Just curious on how to improve on this

[@anjinussbaumer1029]

Is it me or does Ben just talk in circles these days… take several seats sir

[@amorfati4927]

He’s talked in circles since he first came on the scene. It’s only now people are realizing (and not just Ben) how many people do this.

[@hillerfit]

Hahaha several

[@mccask]

I think Ben's intellect may be slightly on the left side of the bell curve.

[@chrisdawson9312]

Derek does this when he goes on a podcast tour like what he did in December. He does them all at once so he doesnt need to travel too frequently, takes a break, and then will come back. Give him a week or two and he'll post again

[@DMS1010]

Clarence Kennedy is Ireland Best athlete I have ever seen.

[@hillerfit]

Yeah i'm an idiot, but agreed!

[@DMS1010]

@@hillerfit no worries. The accent can be deceiving 😂😂eh

[@dylanreithel6212]

Dudes a freak regardless of his use. About to go watch his 585lbs for 10 reps back squat video before I hit the gym lolol

[@ashanfernando100]

No wonder he doesnt have any athletes left in his camp dude forget things so fast imagine what would be his coaching....😂😂😂

[@Trece_Ocho]

20 Back squats to failure for weeks is literally one of the best ways to train strength, and gain muscle. It's called “Super Squats” and every human should try it at least once in their life.

[@nathanwright2437]

just started doing 20 rep backsquat once a week for 6 weeks. 225 for the first session, would love to end at 265 but we'll see

[@Trece_Ocho]

@@nathanwright2437 Dude! Have a good one, I am currently doing it at 285# next week is the real deal... It is one hell of a ride!

[@adam_michael540]

Ben Begeron lost it for me when he gave grief in a podcast for parents giving “cake” to their kids for breakfast when referencing pancakes or waffles. All I could think is how his kids must be really sad.

[@bennybbergeron]

But worst of all -- he stole my name!

[@Zoet50]

Fran put me to failure, heavy Fran definitely did

[@coley4160]

Is Craig Richey natty or not

[@bigpattyboy36]

Thumbs Up for the Magical Leoplurodon

[@Xxxtra_Sloppy]

I’m half in/half out on Bergeron. I do think that he’s just a person that people love to hate, and I see why. Part of that is that he’s built camp that is essentially the Patriots of CrossFit. People love to hate winners, but he’s also got it coming for more reasons than that, too. I just don’t think he deserves most of hate he gets from people, but some nonetheless.

[@erikweisz]

giant house of human Hiller > emaciated Hiller. You're hanging with the Liver King now. You don't need Zack.

[@hillerfit]

I agree. The work is very different too...

[@Coachrupertwilson]

Great video. Fucking so funny and great points. 1. @moreplatesmoredates is back after his annual break. 2. Do you have a more long form content.? You going to do a podcast.?

[@natsutter]

Your skinny picture is from 2016! Only about a month after Regionals. I didn't realize how skinny you had gotten!

[@POPoftheTOPSpod]

Am I the only one that thinks pre-CA Andrew is more of a specimen???

[@TG3Podcast]

I'm still trying wingradium leviosa

[@donnaioannou5199]

Hahaha! The harry potter references 😂😂😂😂‼️

[@jlynnyay]

Nice rant hiller. Good points. Your non testosterone Natural body is way more attractive, but I do appreciate watching your testosterone journey. ❤ thanks for your content

[@mccask]

It's like Conan, who turns the wheel of pain, and out pops a massively muscular barbarian. Magic!

[@Newtzz_]

Is Ben genuinely still talking 🙄🙄

[@paulwilliams6827]

Set the unicorns on him Andrew he’s obviously on the same plateau as the unicorns ….🍩 The quote I know💩about ferk comes into mind when that guy speaks 😂 Paul🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 CrossFit backhander methinks lol 😂

[@Corinna-Mom]

Yes!! I love Trump! ❤ perfect clip. “Nobody does the military better than me!” Yes!

[@triwithlaura3138]

Yet you think Justin Medeiros is natty....it doesn't make sense using ZT's point on performance and recovery 🤔

[@mmarabble9162]

This stupid villainising of PEDs is kinda crazy to me. It's like objecting to modified engines in a car race. Those athletes are pushing the boundaries of what is humanly possible. If there are drugs that can safely aid in the performance without many side effects, I want to know what those drugs are & what is possible when all the elite athletes are on gear.

[@donnaioannou5199]

From this video I think this Ben guy is just spewing a bunch of words... It's just fluff coming out of his mouth.

[@ChetLeeKowalski]

Here::: as in for a few years now…

[@aronlisy6108]

Honestly the physique change isn't that big. Yeah, you got bigger, but you looked way fitter, when you were competing. ;-) You look great still, but there isn't night and day difference.

[@JustMove365Challenge]

those eyes though. one is definitely on trt and the other is coached by Ben

[@FROGGYXO]

This is a deep fake. This can’t be real? This guy is clueless. How is he still a coach? How has he not adapted since things went south years ago?

[@tylercollings7365]

If you think working out for 15-20 hours is healthy then you’re crazy especially at single digit body fat percentage

[@Fergyshow]

First off - Talender is a nerd that did the best he could with the genetics he was given. I give him full credit for work ethic and smarts in his training but he was never going to amount to much in competition because he started with such poor genetics. Second - I think we can all agree that Ben has seen his day and is just talking to placate himself now. Rich, Tia and Mat came in and evolved the sport. Ben did not so now he is little more than a successful affiliate who trains up and coming Games athletes. IF those athletes make it to the Games and show promise, they will jump to Mayhem, PRVN or HWPO. So yeah, Ben is now the minor leagues of CrossFit.

[@patricklang7162]

Idk man. I don’t think Trump is on steroids though.