Ben Browder SG1 Perth 2015

[@gritsnsand]

It's nice to know that after all these years, where ever Shanks and Browder go, they have a Baal.

[@FalloutJack]

Oh, you!

[@zolartan4442]

Yu Hoo?

[@DekwaDoes]

well that joke died quickly!

[@jakeneale9966]

Rip B'all

[@sincereharrison7329]

I know im asking randomly but does anyone know a tool to log back into an Instagram account? I stupidly forgot the login password. I would love any help you can give me.

[@shishoeh]

I'm at 38:56 and literally crying because we would never see Cliff again... RIP Cliff Simon, we're happy to remember you with videos like this!

[@ka1juhunt3r]

such a tragedy. :(

[@NPCSingularity]

I’m just finding out about this. I was just watching this thinking they could have a good buddy sitcom together with Cliff being the serious one. I’m heartbroken.

[@Sechari]

wow, very good response from Ben about SG:U, he was completely right without dissing the show as much as he could have

[@superblahman]

Yeah, I agreed with him fully, and Michael on the timing.

[@neiloch]

It just wasn't a "stargate" show and I think it would have had a better chance as an entirely different IP. Trying to bank off stargate fans when it was so different probably got it more bad 'word of mouth' than it deserved as its own show.

[@quinnsinclair7028]

Neiloch it’s sort of the same problem as Star Trek Discovery. It had a seriously rocky start but it would not be garnering the hate it has if it wasn’t under the Star Trek IP.

[@quinnsinclair7028]

Craig X I didn’t say DIS didn’t have serious problems. It absolutely did but those problems wouldn’t have garnered such hate had it just been a badly written sci-fi show. No one would have cared and it would have faded into obscurity. It’s the same problem that Universe faced. It’s first few episodes also had some serious (though extremely different and much more fixable) problems but they were subjected to such hate because it was not what Stargate fans wanted. To be clear though I am not saying they are the exact same thing. Only that there are similarities. Universe had some defects but had massive story potential whereas the way Discovery is structured it literally has nowhere to go. All it can do is spin its wheels for ten seasons on plots that can’t go anywhere that no one in universe will ever talk about before it ends. They simply share the fact that as part of larger franchises neither did what fans wanted and there was massive uproar. Of course for universe this was cause they tried something new whereas Discovery was trying to pander so hard to so many different people that it left itself appealing to absolutely no one.

[@DrZaius3141]

@@neiloch At the same time, a franchise has to develop, otherwise it gets real stale real quick. Personally, I hated SG1 after season 8, because the whole Ori thing was just Goa'uld painted in some different shades. Atlantis was vastly different with a much larger cast of protagonists, the gate network was much more resaonable and interesting because it wasn't just a billion islands but an actual network people used and they didn't go full on jingoistic on the US-military thing. Secondly, the start of a new show is always rough. First season of SG-1 had a lot of really bad episodes that didn't make sense, first season of TNG was utter garbage, first season of TOS was bad, first season of DS9 had weak spots - it's always very similar and SG:U was never really given a chance to break out. True, the show had deep issues, namely Young and Scott being utterly boring characters that were just military stereotypes. The others could be grating at times, but at least they weren't walking clichees. And then there's Eli who is probably the best Stargate character after McKay and whose character development and overarching plot might have been truly special.

[@ProclarushTaonas]

Oh man, the stuff about the Zats had me laughing my ass off.

[@InfernosReaper]

I remember that one scene he's talking about too. I noticed it the first time. I was like "uh, did his zat break? is he out of sparky semen?"

[@Protegit]

@@InfernosReaper xD!

[@nixie2462]

Timestamp for that?

[@roshieifra]

I really liked Ben Browder on sg1, I wished we'd gotten more seasons with him.

[@dreamingflurry2729]

Him I liked...sadly he was a package-deal with Claudia Black's Vala (I like Claudia Black, loved her on Farscape, but I can't stand Vala! Seriously, she tried to seduce Landry! I'd have thrown her offworld ASAP (or at least confined her somewhere!))

[@someguy4853]

@@dreamingflurry2729 really I like how she grew as a character.

[@myfirstnamemylastname1395]

Michael Shanks' rants on the zats at the end is very funny!

[@antonshtuchka2605]

These guys are amazing.

[@aussieguy6908]

42:55 This is my Question when I was there. I also got to meet Michael Shanks while he was walking around the Convention, I also got a photo with him.

[@andod007]

David Wishart This whole answer is hilarious

[@amberslahlize7961]

I read "photo" as "potato" for some reason. O.O

[@TitoTimTravels]

They got so distracted on the zats that they never addressed the possible sequel to the original film (which is still not happening ha ha).

[@aussieguy6908]

Tito Tim Travels Apparently it is. Check IMDB and look up Roland Emerich.

[@Flatlower]

Ben nailed it, what i've said for decade now. SG1 you wanted to be on the adventure and wanted to go fishing with them. SGU you have watch you don't get a knife shoved in your back

[@GeorgeMillerUSA]

I cannot believe that Ben actually played the playable male character in Black Ops III.

[@Starfals]

Ben is a real good guy, shame he dont get as much work anymore.

[@nickvandam1214]

Ben Browder is a hundred percent correct about what he said on SGU, what made SG1 great is you could love the characters. SGU struggled with that, although I will say the last season of SGU improved quite a bit in that respect.

[@gicking3898]

Quite true. All 4 members of the team were distinct, as well as General Hammond, and Master Bratac. SGU cast were generally grumpy, and Elie being fat throughout the 2-3 year period despite little food was just ridiculous.

[@quinnsinclair7028]

The only character I liked was Rush which is funny cause he was written to he hated.

[@quinnsinclair7028]

Craig X In every single conflict between Rush and another crew member Rush is cast as the bad guy. I loved his character but it definitively did not seem like the writers wanted anyone to like him.

[@timoeke6209]

yea its sad it got good in last season finally, and then they cancel it. Too late :\

[@TitoTimTravels]

Yeah, Rush was definitely written to be hated. He was the Dr Smith of the ship, without the charm. He played it well, but there was nothing likeable written in the character. He was never cast in a good light. Kind of like the early episodes of Woolsey (they did him right later though), and anything with Q (no idea of his name and do not care).

[@serenaistheb.o.a.t]

I feel like Ba'al is being left out.

[@LeonidSaykin]

"If you end this shit with kree, then you are speaking Goauld" I love how everyone laughs at the question.

[@Marshwic]

Poor Cliff looked so bored.... I remember feeling so sorry for him that not much was asked his way.

[@steh8831]

Marshwic - Cliff looked like he had fun playing Ba'al during the later seasons of sg1, he was certainly the most entertaining villain, so it was a little disappointing that more questions were not asked of him.

[@Kosinuss]

Take a second to imagine that they're sitting on the stage as their actual characters and having this conversation. Trippy...

[@minstrelofMir]

ace never gets old,,,make more please :-)

[@randymock4028]

I love Farscape. Hope it comes back.

[@adrianvanleeuwen]

These guys crack me up. Hope they show up in a new series from Amazon as guest stars. These 3 guys in this video are all awesome actors and Baal a great villain! Baal could come back as another clone.

[@JesterAzazel]

Thank you for not having an ear piercing outtro. I was starting to get a Pavlovian response to the end of videos about Stargate.

[@jenniferdeligiorgakis3727]

The Ba’al guy passed away last month from an accident. :(

[@EmilyCheetham]

RIP Cliff Simon.

[@JLMtime]

I love you guys BRING BACK STAR GATE !!!!!

[@jamescooper1848]

at ~25:00.... I can truely say that Shank's character made a positive impression on me at the time with that scene.

[@cezarlacrone]

BRING BACK! Stargate SG1 and Star Trek DS9 / ENT / TNG

[@eporter70]

Love the Claudia competition around 24:06... :-) Love the underwear discussion!

[@FalloutJack]

The weird thing is that there's also ann animator named Michael Shanks who does short sci-fi films. So, nice little triumvirate there.

[@racoiaws]

Awesome stuff :)

[@msnpassjan2004]

@7:05 Interesting the actors had no idea when there eyes would glow or their voices would be flanged, seems like there would some kind of queue in the script.

[@Nova_Astral]

Sometimes there was

[@dreamingflurry2729]

There's another Ba'al clone! GET HIM! :D

[@brad9548]

They need to make a Stargate movie with the Asgard as the main character.

[@DaveFlash]

let's call it Stargate Origins - Thor streaming now!

[@liasun9]

Watching all these conventions, I always get the feeling Amanda is the nicest of the bunch and the most loyal to both the show and her fellow actors. She never fails to bring them up and talk nicely about each one of them; I wish her friendship would be reciprocated and that these guys would at least mention her from time to time. It's always about their interaction with Claudia; they worked with Amanda for so long and they can't even be bothered to acknowledge her. As much as I love all Stargate actors, I'm disappointed in their attitude.

[@DarkysLPs]

Shanks was dipping into that warp dust

[@Brockzillagaming]

I can confirm, I checked. It was episode 2 of season 7, a little after 32 minutes, when they ring down into the historic archive, Jonas totally does 2-3 extra shots with no cg. Pretty funny.

[@Colehkxix]

I see it! Very good

[@pokey70291]

Pretty sure Shanks has done so many of these that he is just getting by with a little bit of coke!

[@KaitouHAX]

48:40 he's referring to S7E2 - Homecoming - 34:58

[@emilyhill6922]

Perth is the most remote city in the planet

[@michaelcrockett9516]

id love to have a beer with those guys, i bet its a fucking trip.

[@chrisdelagarza8048]

R.I.P. LORD BAAL aka CLIFF SIMON

[@MatFoodSnob]

18:33 　Ben and Michael on SGU

[@raspherion]

What did she say the Australian word for Muppet was?

[@SauronsLeftNut]

yeah i wanna know too

[@AtrumNoxProductions]

43:21 is the bit about Zats

[@zaidrashid5493]

rip cliff simon

[@hollickrichard]

he's like a rubber baal keeps bouncing back to you

[@jmcapaldi]

Awesome

[@Graymenn]

were they doing lines in the bathroom?

[@Wixxerius]

goa' uld cocaine

[@SammEater]

Indeeed.

[@Carrington_Event]

I cant believe more talk was not going to Ba'al

[@Mmmm_tea]

I guess he said thai wrap not to be confused with tie wrap (zip tie)

[@EVAUnit4A]

43:22 dat knowledgeable rant. LOVE IT! XD

[@17MrLeon]

who are those actors? I maybe missed something but I remember different characters in the show.

[@ZaleraArkanus666]

Son of my Father They are, from left to right: Daniel Jackson, Colonel Mitchell, and Baal. They are all a bit older looking now. I didn't recognize Baal's actor right away either.

[@darthghitza8037]

I only recognised Ba'al after he started speaking and heard his voice... the I went... fuck that's Ba'al. Then I looked at his face and realised he still looks kinda the same... how the fuck did I not realise it to begin with.

[@jackychang9148]

Took me a moment to recognize Ben but I recognized Cliff right away. Can't forget that beautiful bronze skin.

[@Josefsson9013]

Only me that liked Stargate Universe? It was a bit slow but it got canceled when stuff started to happen

[@seskal8595]

Many people liked Universe. They're just not as loud as the people who didn't, as is the case with everything. It's my personal favorite series tbh

[@dimitarmargaritov]

To be honest, I enjoyed all of the series and with Universe I especially enjoyed season 2. Wish they could continue it.

[@LeonidSaykin]

I liked it

[@patrickwentzell4638]

Sponcered by Kentucky Fried chicken and Fosyers Australian beer. I miss seeing this show watching Scorpious in the mind of a Chriton.

[@callumunga5253]

Zat Gun Rant - 42:56

[@amberslahlize7961]

KREE CHO'VAH!!!!!!!!!!

[@UnknownUzer]

It's sad that you can tell that Shanks is still very contemptuous of the show and fanbase. It's hurtful knowing that because I love his performance so much.

[@helenhywater5033]

I dont know, I didn't get that impression from him. He remembers every nuance and episode title. He was having fun with it, but he seems like a fan himself.

[@UnknownUzer]

Oh, no... It is common knowledge that he despised his time on the show. When he was finally able to leave , he did, only to discover there were no jobs lining up waiting for him. It was only then that he came back and was less of a douche to everyone. Marina Sirtis said that while she was guesting on an episode Shanks would walk around saying, "Who do I have to F*ck to get off this show".

[@NeaEmrys]

It seems to me he has a love hate relationship with the show, I don't see Shanks going around being a dick - he probably was a little tired after the first couple of seasons, but then he probably realized how good he had it. His personality seems to be very sarcastic and joking, so I don't think he really hated it that much, it's just his personality.

[@UnknownUzer]

Sadly ,nothing is further from the truth. Show insiders speak of him wanting off the show for years. making snarky remarks and hating on the show. Marina Sirtis who guest starred on an episode said during a Star Trek panel that when she was there Richard was a delight, but Shanks was an ass and that he kept qiuping ,"Who do I have to F**k to get off this show?"

[@helenhywater5033]

Nea Emrys yeah, bad days happen and anecdotes are just that. You dont talk as enthusiastically and remember every nuance about a show you hated.

[@Polkovic]

I agree about SGU

[@vladimirdorususanu63]

please make stargate 2

[@jackoneill8585]

that is not the daniel jackson i know hes not acting like his character he dont look like him either hmmm

[@SWEMartin]

I really liked SGU because it finally was a Stargate series for adults. Also, both SGA and SG1 used the classic formula of the perfectly balanced team of a brave leader, a genius, the muscle and a guide, everyone working in perfect harmony. But Universe threw that out the windows with a very insecure leader who actually hates the genius that everyone depends on to fix things even though his personal agenda is very different from the others. Its more of a Sci-fi drama than sci-fi action.

[@amberslahlize7961]

I never saw Daniel as gay....waaaaaaat? Where do people get that idea from? I've seen the series more then 20 times...

[@SauronsLeftNut]

they were just joking about him refusing sex from vala, and other times he coud have but didnt

[@emergencyCALL911]

Just typical "if you don't want to have sex with every woman who offers you must be gay" guy stuff. What I liked about the interaction between Daniel and Vala was that they recognised that women throwing themselves at men is a sign of emotional problems not of them being "in control of their sexuality" or any of that nonsense people try to sell you on to make oversexed female characters out to be positive role models.

[@w8stral]

NO: SGU would NEVER work: It was DEPRESSING. Where is the adventure, if there is no wonder at the exploration? NO ONE watches TV to relive, regurgitate the Shit in their lives. They watch, to get AWAY from the SHIT in their lives.

[@johnpaulporrelli6208]

Well said that was my gripe with it too

[@w8stral]

@@johnpaulporrelli6208 Exactly... who wants to watch depressing TV... NO ONE

[@alavitka]

@@w8stral and yet that's mostly all they do nowadays...

[@w8stral]

@@alavitka And why millions stopped watching US based Shit TV and instead watch foreign TV. The naval gazing shits in California and their religious expressions of their daily lives... NO ONE WANTS TO WATCH

[@formerastronaut]

Am gay man and I still wouldn't pass up an opportunity with Claudia Black

[@Kakuretaka]

Sorry but that man in the beard is not Shanks. He sounds nothing like him.

[@DaveXYZ369]

30:12 - What the F? :D

[@mindspank]

People seem to forget Ben Browder played almost the exact same character as he portrayed in Farscape. Same with Claudia Black, albeit her character was a tad more different as it was in Farscape. Don't get me wrong, I like both actors and love both shows. However I don't think it was a good move to have them both come on the show. Or even at all. In my opinion SGU was way better than the last two seasons of SG1. The Ori arc was so ridiculous, I only accept it because I can never have enough sci-fi in my life and ofcourse I love the franchise. There were only handful episodes I actually liked in s9-s10, whilst I only disliked a handful episodes in SGU. Absolutely loved every crazy bit of Farscape and the character John Crichton. However I absolutely loathed his character in SG1, I didn't fit. Ben Browder is a decent actor, but one-dimensional, gets boring pretty fast. Shanks seems like a chill dude to hang out with. He's got an attitude, he's someone who you have to reply to, with an equally or even better response/mockery.

[@Superschokokeks]

Did we see the same Ben Browder on Farscape? He showed a wide variety of emotion through the whole series and Mitchell was nothing like Crichton..

[@RAFMnBgaming]

Nah, what i think they tried to do was flip the character archetypes between the two actors, Crichton is Red Oni, Mitchell is Blue Oni, Aeryn is Blue Oni, Vala is Red Oni. Problem was they didn't really do anything for Mitchell beyond that. Fortunately Vala already had something to go off of because they'd already come up with a character for her. Of course it didn't help that they'd come off of such a instantly recognizably unique and fleshed out lead character like O'Neill.

[@emergencyCALL911]

I never saw Farscape so I didn't see it from that angle. I didn't like Vala in season 9 because I just wasn't fond of her character. She was just a cliche run-of-the-mill sexy rebel chick. She was better in season 10 because being a mother made her grow up a bit and added more depth to her character, but I'd still take Sam over her any day.

[@alavitka]

Watch some non-fiction movies with Ben, you might change your opinion. Although for me after Farscape he looked bored playing Mitchell. He's able to spout with emotions whereas Mitchell was such a military disciplined guy. I remember one OOC scene at the start with him and Teal’c in that room with floor coming down to crush them, when he said "Bullets bounce!" in a super-charged manner which reminded me of Chriсhton vividly, but the show runners probably ordered him to never do this again. Anyway, most American movies & series just don't require acting at all, the exceptions are always English or Australian actors who actually had some classical theatrical several years training. And even most of those stop being versatile after becoming Hollywood stars. For example, I was impressed by Hugh Jackman only after I watched his earlier Australian roles, because seriously, not much talent required to play Van Helsing or Wolverine. Just look mean and you're good. Same goes for Hugo Weaving (agent Smith & Elrond). Even my favourite Christian Bale disappointed me as Batman & John Connor in Terminator 4. The exceptions (like Alan Rickman, Ian McKellen, Robert Carlyle) somehow are never the superstars like native Tom Cruise or Bradd Pitt or even Leonardo Dicaprio who, I suppose, are always required to act more or less the same as the lead male heroes (I was only able to measure DiCaprio's talent after watching some old drama where he played a half-witted teenager - that was something really Oscar-worthy!). Curiously, Jason Statham & Daniel Craig are English actors but due to the genre of their star roles they also look everywhere pretty much like the same guy which could be played by anyone with enough presence. It's just the way things are done onn big screen. But it's obviously the most profitable way in today's world (i.e. most popular in demand), so we have what we have.

[@andycooke94]

loved stargate, but this must be an alternative reality where mitch and Dr jackson find a big bag of cocaine fucking comedy gold there both coked of there faces , baal looks sober and bored someone give him a line haha

[@alavitka]

Jesus, did you never see people close to bi-polar condition? There are lots of them in entertainment. They don't need coke to be super-agitated, funny or electrified. They were just born this way. I recognize myself in Ben's demeanor but I'm not famous, so I don't get "on coke" but rather "crackpot" suspicion all my life. Although I have never done anything out of control.

[@cezarlacrone]

Baal for the President for US...no...for our Galaxy! :P :D

[@MotoAtheist]

I don't know how these people manage to do it... sit there and deal with a bunch of psychotic fans with the most moronic questions they can come up with.

[@br8071]

why are they so snotty and making fun of the audience? 11:30. I don't get it. it was a valid question, they are all valid questions asked respectfully by fans. Just be respectful in your answer or don't show up. I'm sure they are all getting paid for this. Sad.

[@MarCuseus]

+br8071 Uh some of the questions are beyond stupid.

[@visionofdisorder]

+br8071 chris judge is the nicest (and funniest) one of them. RDA is the worst when it comes to not giving a shit and not remembering anything from the shows he's been on. but yeah, i see what you mean. they act like they're rock stars.

[@serenaistheb.o.a.t]

+werewolvesbyday I 100% agree on RDA being the worst. I cringe every time he makes it seem like he doesn't remember anything. You can tell that it's so put on and fake. I bet deep down they all wish that Stargate was still on and they were still on it.

[@br8071]

Who cares if they seem beyond stupid? It's all about treating people with respect and kindness.

[@BK-ku1zt]

WOW, what a cancerous approach to dealing with people.

[@cezarlacrone]

what a liquid legs :D

[@Neldidellavittoria]

Most of the time they sound like they hated being on the show. Plus, they make fun of the audience and answer questions as though they're bored with the audience. They seem to think they're cool and funny but all too often they're bordering on rude.

[@darthghitza8037]

actually I found Browder reacting exactly like Mitchell would. Think about it this way: RDA is the worst when it comes to fan interactions and if you think about it... out of the characters O'Neill would also be the worst. Let's be honest... do you think you would get nice reactions from O'Neill or Mitchell if they were real?

[@dreamingflurry2729]

@@darthghitza8037 I agree! Jack O'Neill would hate having fans! He'd hide in his cabin in the woods (with the pond without fish!) to fish and be away from it all :D Hell, he'd retire offworld if he had fans ("Guys, send me to a planet those guys don't know about! Just give me a Naquadah-Generator and some equipment to build my own cabin and don't forget the fishing gear!")