Ben / Candace Feud w/ Jordan Peterson

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In this clip, Matt Fradd asks Jordan Peterson about the Candace Owens/Ben Shapiro falling out. Jordan doesn't take the bait, but does gush a bit more about his experience with The Daily Wire.
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[@BigPhilly15]

Everyone saying JP is classy here, but he confesses they pay him a ton of money. So what he’s really saying is “I’m NAWT risking my bloody payday, bucko!”

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

As someone that does not watch DW content anymore (since about 2019 or so), this comes off as people wanting JP to have the same opinion that _they_ do, about some pointless drama (of which I'm not aware). From what I've seen, a lot of Catholics tend to be dissatisfied, with anyone who doesn't agree with everything they think, at all times (and this seems to be a 'Catholic' channel). It's cult-like.

[@BigPhilly15]

@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 I’m sure you’re accurately describing *some* people. However, you admit you haven’t watched the content, so it’s presumptuous of you to believe you understand my opinion. My argument is the DW has a prescribed view on Israel, and all its content creators must never speak against it lest they be fired as Owens was.

[@antoinettekankindi6807]

Agree with you, that what i thoight immediately

[@dave9547]

Bingo

[@beautifulrose8619]

@@BigPhilly15 Great comment. my thoughts exactly

[@eigilsteinsto5671]

Didn't Jordan just recently deride the College of Psychologists of Ontario for trying to control his opinions? Didn't he say that his private opinions and twitter activity should not cause the college to drop him? Didn't he call them cowards? What the college did to him seems to be what DE did to Candace. Now he will not address it?

[@dave9547]

Hes a MASSIVE hypocrite.

[@Jon_Nadeau_]

You're comparing apples and oranges.

[@taxfinancetipstvonequestio4107]

​@@Jon_Nadeau_how?

[@Jon_Nadeau_]

@@taxfinancetipstvonequestio4107 How what?

[@piface3016]

Matt: "Did you consciously decide to keep away from the controversy?" Peterson: "Look. The Daily Wire deal was very financially generous."

[@wind_traveler]

Given the full context of his answer, I think he was trying to make a point about how he considered the DW to be generous to their pundits.

[@djoseph5072]

Yes. But the subconcious subtext excludes criticism of Israel. It's a ĺot easier to slip into mental reservation with that long list of "ridiculous" benefits. $$$$

[@reasonablyserious]

​@@djoseph5072stating wild conspiracies such as forced segregation as fact isn't the same as "criticising Israel"

[@riodelsol3876]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@djoseph5072 & @pitface3016 (this goes for both of you) Your argument, which is the same argument for both of you, just in a different light, is flawed because it hinges on him being comprised “subconsciously or consciously” by money or camaraderie, which is unfalsifiable and speculation, because he could just not be. But we still have no idea. And ironically what’s your “subtextually explicit, subconsciously,” motivation for wanting to think, without evidence, that he’s comprised? There’s obviously a reason beyond Jordan himself. I mean there one thing to just make conclusions or theories on current and past evidence but your going beyond that, obviously, pulling subjective examples from your emotions. If we just went on his past track record besides the Israel and now Candice thing, the evidence of his integrity is in his favor, by a lot. But he could very well be compromised, but we have no idea either way, so I don’t think it’s helpful to anybody besides yourself, to make statements as unequivocally true that are based on literal assumptions about his character.

[@piface3016]

@@riodelsol3876 I legit just quoted the video

[@rodgod82]

meanwhile he post like a billion time a day one twitter about anything and everything

[@robertdolcetti450]

Well, presumably he feels like he has something useful to say often, though not always.

[@serga7486]

that probably explains why he has like negative patience these days

[@pepecore9295]

Jordan Peterson has never criticized Israel, Zionism or Judaism.

[@writer_racehochdorf]

Good. 👍

[@dave9547]

They pay him.

[@dave9547]

​@@writer_racehochdorfbad 👎🏿

[@Jon_Nadeau_]

Why should he? Good job in my opinion. 👍

[@vlogafter3054]

Very good

[@williss1192]

This is why I like Jordan Peterson, no drama, it's better to say nothing when the situation is so unclear.

[@jeangold8789]

😂😂😂😂 cope!!! your idol is fake.

[@Mdawgnhisposse23]

@@jeangold8789 I don't think what he said was terrible. Although I do think it was measured. He chose to talk about his own experience with the DW plainly because that's what he felt comfortable sharing in the moment and because of his fruitful partnership with them. And it's no wonder. It's like the DW took JP's ideas for potential projects, pumped them up with high-level production and a crap ton of funds and made them into a reality that was beyond anything he could have done himself. From his POV, it makes sense. "A contract has been worked out so that all of the stuff I want to do is backed by a multi-million dollar company with no drawbacks at my expense? Sign me up!!" (I mean, there was no way JP could have created that mini-documentary and tribute to Newfoundland and Rex Murphy without DW's backing). But I get it. People want him to criticize the DW for how they unjustly fired Candace but he chooses to sidestep the issue altogether because, as people believe/suspect, they're paying him generously and effectively tampering his tongue. For now though, I'll tentatively take JP's word at face value. I do hope it will 'sort itself out' and, as he also commented, that anything he could have said would only have caused more trouble than net benefit. Otherwise, he would be breaking his "tell the truth or at least don't lie" principle. And, to steal another one of his phrases, "These things are complicated!" A twitter/X exchange and clips regarding a messy termination issue of public figures and incorporated businesses, no matter how impressionable they can be, do not do enough justice to pierce the corporate veil to show the entirety or true character of Candace's interactions with DW that lead to the breakdown of their relationship. If this was just some beef between KZbinrs, I'd give the online exchanges/comments more weight (although what's shared online still probably is insufficient). But involving a corporation as big and complex as the DW doing business deals with a well-known figure like Candace who has her own backing vis-à-vis her well-capitalized, business-savvy husband? I'd suspect there was a lot more back and forth behind the scenes that isn't at least fully shared due to contracts, confidentiality agreements, privacy laws, professional ethics, etc. blah blah blah, etc. Call me a fence sitter, grifter, a DW/JP supporter, a Candace Owens hater, a willfully blind idiot, whatever, but I'd rather wait than cast dispersions without being sure of the full picture.

[@SpencerMack]

“They pay me a lot of money so I can’t comment on this “

[@CloudWithoutASky]

hes not commenting because its unproductive to pick a side and play favorites and start conflict, yeah, they do pay him, he wont deny it, but it doesn't make him a tool. hes not a tool, if he was a tool, hed sell himself to Canada hell in a handbasket so hed keep his license, and shave his eyebrows, shave his head, and tattoo a vagina on his skull. Peterson enjoys money evidently, but hes not a fool, and he is self aware appropriately to not consume himself with greed at the cost of the truth and moral responsibilities. to be capable of thinking so intensely, emotionally, and as provocatively as he does, and lie about all of it, hed be close to putting a gun to his head at every interview.

[@Thunderpussy1234]

Pin this comment

[@EdginLegend]

he commented for 3 min.

[@vwtdi1579]

​@@EdginLegend3 minutes of not picking a side on how to address discussions on anti-Semitism and Israel's potential mistakes.

[@ThePremeirZ]

It’s called minding your own business

[@theradiantknight9771]

Christ is King

[@God_my_Savior]

Amen

[@sercastamere9853]

Taking the Lord's name in vain is a sin. You're using His name as a political slogan to rub in the faces of Jews. Not to mention displaying a preachy public show of faith, which is also condemned by Christ. You are doing nothing useful, evangelical, or moral by using that phrase.

[@nameme5280]

Careful... They will call you anti semite

[@fastingman4726]

@@sercastamere9853could you please cite your source? I see nowhere saying “Christ is King” is somehow taking the Lord’s name in vain. That may be your interpretation, but it doesn’t mean it’s in the scripture. And if your claim is correct, many Catholic schools are built in sin.

[@reasonablyserious]

Abusing this truth for one's own aims contradicts it

[@Cesar-sc9wd]

I guess everyone has a price, but it's disappointing when it comes from a "Role Model".

[@beautifulrose8619]

Right? Maybe when his contract his done. It was sad to see that he had no opinion. He talks about everything.

[@shalomoneal]

If Peterson's hands are tied, that's not good. He should be able to criticize ANYONE and ANYTHING, if he feels the need to.

[@Jon_Nadeau_]

Then I guess he doesn't feel the need to then. It's also never good practice to publicly throw the organization who pays you under the bus. It's always best to remain neutral.

[@beatricebliss9379]

​@@Jon_Nadeau_ aka coward and greedy...

[@isaiahmorris7856]

He can’t speak out against the guy funding all his stuff. Jordan always shares his opinions but won’t now interesting…

[@nameme5280]

Need the money for the ridiculous suits he's been wearing these days

[@etherspin]

Or alternatively you could take his explanation as being *THE* explanation not the first conservative organisation Candace left (turningPointUSA)

[@dave9547]

​@@etherspinwhatever makes you feel better, dude. They're all on zy an ist payroll. A lot of Petersons stardom came from his staunch support of free speech. He's a massive hypocrite and a coward. Deal with it.

[@etherspin]

@@dave9547 how has *anything* about DW breached anyone's free speech ? Free speech doesn't mean your media business therefore has to hire everyone for their views e.g. daily wire doesn't have to Hire Joy Reid or Rachel Maddow if they apply for a job! There is literally one Jewish guy at DW surrounded by Christians and other conservatives What is this weird "what ever makes you feel good/better" nonsense? We are adults. Snide nonsense is just bad faith discussion

[@dave9547]

@@etherspin they had already hired her. Then fired her and put a gag order on her. Does peterson stand for free speech or not? No he doesn't. He's all talk. End of story.

[@Siobhan-jz3zy]

Ive never seen him not give an honest and truthful answer. Of cours he has an opinion on this. Its a huge thing that's happening within the company he work's and involving several people hes closely worked with. I genuinely think, he strongly disagrees with the daily wire. But he obviously doesn't want to put his job in jeopardy. I think if he agreed with them he would of been more forthcoming

[@dave9547]

Hes a hypocrite

[@Jon_Nadeau_]

He never said he didn't have an opinion on it. He said he doesn't have anything to add that would be useful and I agree with him. Let Candace dig her own grave.

[@Siobhan-jz3zy]

@CrAzYnAdEz it's not candace who is digging her grave it's the daily wire Agreeing to a debate, while getting a gag order.. That's absolutely mental

[@dave9547]

@@Siobhan-jz3zy you are correct.

[@Jon_Nadeau_]

@@Siobhan-jz3zy I doubt it, buy even if that ends up happening that has nothing to do with Jordan Peterson.

[@m.d.sharpe8892]

Just like most people in the comments section who have absolutely nothing useful to add either, yet for some reason decided to speak anyways. Wish more people had Peterson's sense

[@frankjoyce76]

stunning and brave. Now we cant talk about political commentators that show who our ruling class are? Hard pass

[@CloudWithoutASky]

YOOOO i dig the VS profile pic. GOATLAND SAGA BABY @m.d.sharpe8892

[@CloudWithoutASky]

hes saying not everything has to be a combative opinionated take. Peterson probably has a unique approach, but like most of his takes, people like to take it the wrong way, blow it out of proportion and then say hes a lobster red skulled nazi.@@frankjoyce76

[@dave9547]

whatever makes you feel better, dude. They're all on zy an ist payroll. A lot of Petersons stardom came from his staunch support of free speech. He's a massive hypocrite and a coward. Deal with it.

[@bunsonbaker4156]

@@dave9547dude what 😂

[@crimson6172]

Why are there so many people here wanting JP to stoke the flames?

[@cisium1184]

Unhealthy people like drama. But when you hit 40 you just don't care anymore.

[@piface3016]

Candace says Christ is King, Shapiro denies Christ is King. There's a very clear side to take here and this side-stepping by Peterson is nothing but cowardice.

[@juzi68]

@@piface3016 I've long suspected that money had an oversized impact on Mr. Petersons decision regarding who he aligns himself with. He was a powerful and innovative voice. I'm sad that his legacy is being tarnished. He was bound to stumble sooner or later. I wish him the best.

[@crimson6172]

@@piface3016 Lol bruh... Ben's business partner Jeremy who is his best friend is a Protestant. Other DW members are Catholics or Protestants. Ben is the only one who follows Judaism. It's so weird that you guys were never aware of this... So this arrangement was never a problem before. And suddenly it is. Now people like you are demanding JP to pick a side. Something that the other Catholics/Protestants members of the DW never had to do before.

[@bradleymarshall5489]

@@piface3016I don’t know if it’s cowardice, he’s not exactly a Christian and he’s clearly sold out to con inc

[@JoaoBarq]

You missed the chance to make the perfect question: "Do you think they would also fund your million dollar seminar if it was about someone from the New Testament?"

[@JustMeMinaa]

BINGO.

[@BigPhilly15]

You mean about the man Shapiro calls a false prophet?

[@micaiahwiersma6996]

He literally mentions later in this interview that they just finished filming a similar seminar on the Gospels set to release sometime later this year. Also, two out of the three founders are Christians. All of their hosts except JP and Ben are outspoken Christians. What are you on about?

[@JoaoBarq]

Because the christians that they tolerate are the lukewarm christians. The ones that think that the universal religion concept, which tries to conceal the Truth behind the relativism, is aceptable. The ones that go to the Abrahamic Family House. While the ones that testify to the uniqueness of following Christ and say things like "Christ is King" are being persecuted. If they ever do any seminar about the Gospels, it will be that bland modernist view and not a true christian perspective.

[@shane9095]

Do you forget that two home grown daily wire talents are Catholics and extremely devout ones?

[@VelvetJazz]

JBP is a good man who got a good deal that he very much deserved. He stands up for those who can’t speak for themselves, he cares about truth.

[@Compassiron1]

I would read that as being Dr JP being respectful to his partners/employers at the DW without casting pointless aspersions against Candace Owens. but also perhaps not wanting to add fuel to a fire on this in-fight within a burgeoning, powerful and popular neo-conservative alliance, as these fissures can become schisms and hamper the progress of what their big strategic objectives are. He’s got enough battle scars to know he cant do this alone

[@CanditoTrainingHQ]

Why do Peterson fans emulate the way he speaks with how they comment? That was so needlessly wordy to state the obvious. He makes more money staying out of it.

[@Compassiron1]

Why do non Peterson fans always reduce things to simplistic nastiness.

[@dhebora831]

​@@Compassiron1*INDEED*

[@VACatholic]

@@CanditoTrainingHQ Didn't think I'd see you here.

[@dave9547]

whatever makes you feel better, dude. They're all on zy an ist payroll. A lot of Petersons stardom came from his staunch support of free speech. He's a massive hypocrite and a coward. Deal with it.

[@TheDaneblake]

Translation. I don’t want to mess with he who butters my bread. And as for C.O. I don’t want to cross wires with a frag grenade with a couple of cards it’s best not to mess with.

[@sercastamere9853]

Do you seriously think Peterson couldn't "contend" with Owens? Rogan bested her on bloody climate change. She's a fast-talking buffoon

[@MsG55580]

Yes! And the frag grenade WILL use those cards.😅

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

I haven't watched DW content for several years, but I don't see how JP's position would change if he wasn't being paid by them. Why even ask about drama, in the first place? I watched Ben's podcasts for years (and other's, like Klavan or Knowles), until one by one, I found them being disingenuous -- for example, Ben mindlessly repeated Muh Charlottesville hoax, about Donald Trump supposedly supporting Nazis, and never apologized. So, I noticed the pattern and concluded that they're likely some kind of controlled opposition, and probably funded by Swamp dollars -- too many connections with people like Glenn Beck, etc.

[@dave9547]

He's a massive hypocrite and a coward. Lost all respect.

[@beautifulrose8619]

what is frag?

[@manukanubi4418]

Well said Dr. JP. Really enjoying DW and their current content, can't wait for The Pendragon Cycle and Dr. Peterson's new content on the West ❤

[@mark-be9mq]

'There's nothing useful to add to the discussion'. Exactly. If more took that tack & didn't respond to the back & forth (incl BS & CO) it wouldn't have gotten so bad.

[@Goodkidjr43]

False. Peterson is a coward. He is being paid by the Daily Wire. Enough said. God bless

[@shannonengelken4629]

❤

[@mincho7573]

I agree. Sometimes, it is best to say silent and speak privately between parties. Just because he has an opinion on just about everything doesn't mean he should make everything known. Maybe it is because of money. Maybe it is because he likes both Candace and Ben and doesn't want to get involved in a public matter. Who knows. I think people want him to speak, hoping he takes one side over another.

[@aquariuskiwilog]

Christ is King!

[@LumosityGeek-wz4fe]

Black Lives Matter

[@mattmyers2624]

Except maybe he could go on an apology tour for saying "give 'em hell" - literally commanding/calling forth hell on the Palestinians.

[@dantheman909]

@@mattmyers2624why though? Hamas is a wicked and vile terrorist group. Give em hell indeed!

[@dave9547]

​​@@mattmyers2624yep. Disgusting

[@taxfinancetipstvonequestio4107]

Lol😅😅😊😅

[@IvanGarcia-cx5jm]

I don't like how the cancelled Candance. I hope she makes her own show and is able to speak the truth, with no ties to the right and no ties to the left. There are few people like that. When funds start to come the strings get attached and people take one side or the other, and stop speaking the truth.

[@beautifulrose8619]

Jordan says "He hates when there'e rules for everything". One important rule and DW is "Do not in any way, shape or form criticize Jews or Israel". So I am not really feeling that this is an organization with no rules.

[@IvanGarcia-cx5jm]

@@beautifulrose8619 But he published a book called "12 rules for life". I thought he was all about order. This is confusing! I think Father Barron said once that rules and laws are to protect what is valuable for us. Depending on the values we have is the rules that we are in favor. People have different values, and therefore they hate some rules and love others. I guess all of us will end up with some rules.

[@beautifulrose8619]

@@IvanGarcia-cx5jm Very well said. I agree with you.

[@baseballmomof8]

They did not censor her (or any of the other hosts) - some of her strange positions were not a good fit for DW. Mrs. Farmer declaring her “freedom” was silly and rather prideful. She was completely free to leave any time.

[@baseballmomof8]

@@beautifulrose8619wow. Walsh has criticized Israel on several occasions. How is it that he is still at DW?

[@divleenshannon5688]

I have never been more disappointed in a public figure before.

[@_Gondor44_]

What did you want him to say? That the Jews run the world and that Ben Shapiro is bad?

[@sercastamere9853]

In what possible way.

[@vlogafter3054]

Becausr he's not joining in your useless war

[@vlogafter3054]

Becausr he's not joining in your useless war

[@Strive1974]

Really? You must live in a bubble

[@moistnightmare5940]

Love Jordan but joining DW was the wrong move. His original Biblical series was so much better. The others on the Exodus examination just take away from the time we get to hear his unique takes. The fact that he can't comment on this is saddening. I wish Candace and Ben could of had a fruitful discussion.

[@Sam_T2000]

could of.

[@etherspin]

Candace is a veracious debater but she mostly likes the combat, she doesn't like being informed. Look up "Candace Moon Landing Maher" and you will cringe beyond your wildest dreams as she tells Maher she doubts the moon landing and then asks him why NASA never returned only for him to inform her of around 6 subsequent missions

[@micaiahwiersma6996]

There is no such thing as a fruitful discussion with Candace. There never has been. It is continuously astonishing how well she has managed to pull the wool over so many people's eyes just by throwing out the correct assortment of buzzwords. It just shows that a large plurality of those on the "neo-conservative" right are just as ideologically shallow and infantile as the screaming whiners on college campuses. It just takes a different form. Candace is quite honestly less intellectually honest than Ana Kasparian at this point, and that is saying something.

[@juzi68]

In the end, all disagreements are theological. And some gaps cannot be bridged.

[@Jaymastia]

He already said what mattered. Money ! 💰

[@dave9547]

Yep. He stands for moey, not values.

[@peggyw172]

Good for Jordan. Bravo.

[@dave9547]

whatever makes you feel better, dude. They're all on zy an ist payroll. A lot of Petersons stardom came from his staunch support of free speech. He's a massive hypocrite and a coward. Deal with it.

[@emily43210]

​@@dave9547It's not about free speech. They hired her because they liked her speech and fired her because they disliked it. It is not a free speech platform it's a right-winged, religious bent platform. She started going into an anti-Israel place and thats probably why they got rid of her.

[@mike9512]

Peterson needs to get out of his online, debate, twitter bubble. If you go out into the real world and talk to normal people, the middle is alive and well.

[@Oseremen01]

What?? He literally says this about the real world all the time. He says, on Twitter it’s like everyone is fighting but then he does things like the seminars in the real world and they are overwhelmingly positive… He’s not oblivious to this.

[@mike9512]

@Oseremen01 awesome. I'm glad that is the case. I'm happy to be wrong about certain things.

[@Oseremen01]

@@mike9512 oh okay, great 👌🏾 Take care out there

[@TheBigJew]

Jordan did what a mature person does. Good for him. When either the Daily Wire or Candace speak on the matter we will know the truth. Until then everyone else is just spreading gossip

[@dave9547]

whatever makes you feel better, dude. They're all on zy an ist payroll. A lot of Petersons stardom came from his staunch support of free speech. He's a massive hypocrite and a coward. Deal with it.

[@TheBigJew]

@@dave9547every DW host has different opinions on a crazy amount of topics including Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson isn't one to bite is tongue. If he had something to say he would say it the same way the other DW hosts do. It's being painted as a free speech issue when in reality we don't know what the issue is because the only people commenting on the issue are people who aren't involved. Candace didn't want to be there anymore she has said so herself. Don't pretend you know anything more than I do about the situation. Do you listen to the content?

[@Jon_Nadeau_]

@@TheBigJew Ignore this idiot. He's just copying and pasting the same comment over and over again.

[@heaven9378]

​@@TheBigJewwhat are you talking about, Candace wanted to talk about it and DW gagged her with a gag order so don't insinuate that Candace didn't want to talk about it.

[@huntforberries]

Someone gets unjustly fired over free speech matters and he's disinterested. In every other instance Jordan and other colleagues get up in arms. But in regards to this infringement they chose convenience. That sounds cowardly to me

[@Jon_Nadeau_]

For what we know so far Candace wasn't fired. She didn't want to renew her contract. Also free speech doesn't protect someone from being fired, nor does being fired from a company violate free speech in any way.

[@emily43210]

There is no free speech on a platform where you are specifically hired based on your opinions. DW hired her/Jordan in the first place because they liked her opinions/her takes. They can fire her for her political stances and takes. I'm sure if Jordan started saying Michael Knowles was unhinged after some pro-lifer got locked up for praying at an abortion facility, and then started doing episodes about why being pro-choice may be more ethical, they would get rid of him too.

[@antoooa8664]

His answer would be perfectly fine without mentioning the bag. The bag spoiled everything i have had for this man

[@darrobinson9830]

In the old days they called it "30 pieces of silver" to act a particular way!!

[@oneperson5760]

‘Im fond of the conservatives’. Lol. Such kindly sentiment! We’re fond of you too, Dr JP!

[@pop6997]

Jordan was right not to get involved in that tbh. Matt was right not to chase him down on it either. Tbh, I don't think anything good comes out of them debating. We have enough 'fueled up' people already who can barely have a conversation without betraying a bias. Enough imo. I just want peacemakers tbh

[@dave9547]

whatever makes you feel better, dude. They're all on zy an ist payroll. A lot of Petersons stardom came from his staunch support of free speech. He's a massive hypocrite and a coward. Deal with it.

[@bunsonbaker4156]

@@dave9547copy paste troll

[@dave9547]

@@bunsonbaker4156 another impeccable argument I see. Impressive.

[@Recipe_For_Disaster_TV]

If that’s who conservatives are then I hope we lose the culture war.

[@liamomeara2325]

Make your bed. What a con... Big Con. Christ is King.

[@vlogafter3054]

Seethe

[@trevd64]

For someone who really appreciates the comments and perspectives both Ben And Candace this episode is really tough. It’s a complicated issue with lots of moving parts and intricate details with loads of misinformation. We certainly live in interesting times.

[@testtai9160]

Can you please share where i can get those Catholic picture frames you have in your background?

[@reema811]

Old man drools after the big bucks. No point in sticking to his principles about how speech and honest conversations are vital for moving forward.

[@dave9547]

BINGO

[@angelvargas9395]

I don’t really think he’s allowed to say things

[@lmr1049]

bro be so for real now: honest conversations? candace owens knows absolutely nothing about israel and judaism yet comments on it anyway. millions of people are having conversations about this topic. we don’t need another useless ill-informed voice playing the victim when nobody with an IQ over 100 is listening. this is the same woman who believes the moon landing is fake and 9/11 was an inside job. 🙃

[@sercastamere9853]

You don't need to speak on every instance of that, and besides its not like Candace is some poor delicate little flower who's being "oppressed", she's been overtly antisemitic and aggressive towards Ben to the point of lying. That is as Ben has said quite despicable

[@user-jn8nn6bf6v]

​​ Name the "despicable antisemitism" Candace showed towards Ben. Even they can NOT cite ANY examples and have to resort to pretending to read intentions, contradicting all their previous stances when it came to racism and micro-aggressiona but here you are with bald faced falsehoods.

[@taxfinancetipstvonequestio4107]

JP as all of us : make sure to keep your payday😅😅😅😅

[@darrobinson9830]

In the old days they called it "30 pieces of silver" to act a particular way!!

[@birdiegirl1622]

In June Peterson like many on the right admonishes that pride is a sin, they leave out the fact that greed is also a sin but that’s ok somehow.

[@Opo-D]

This is why I love Jordan Peterson. He is honest. People prefer to be lied to. I would ABSOLUTELY 100% also have stayed out of an internal conflict that has NOTHING to do with me too if I were in the shoes of Jordan Peterson. Calculating your usefulness in a contentious interaction between two grown up, civilized (former) colleagues is smart.

[@serenapopowich8084]

Where on earth does one find a jacket like that, it's awesome

[@YD-uq5fi]

It is $20 on Temu.

[@Foxie770]

Pageau Designed it and his tailor in Canada made it.

[@TheFilmLocker]

What exactly did ‘Give them hell!’ add to to the convo. Very useful indeed 🤦🏾‍♀️💆🏾‍♀️🙃

[@befr333]

Ahah it's like in shortly saying "I accept everything the devil gives me and he's giving me a lot. Jesus rejected the offers in the desert, I want it all and it's amazing".

[@subzee5623]

Stand up for Candace man! What happened to your bravery?

[@reasonablyserious]

What should he stand up for. Candace has a different opinion, why should he be compelled to support it?

[@pawepawe5854]

​@@reasonablyseriouswhat's the different opinion to 'Christ is King's?

[@ImNotPhaT]

​@@pawepawe5854 Christ isn't King?

[@reasonablyserious]

@@pawepawe5854 if you seriously think candace hasn't purposefully chosen that for pragmatic reasons good luck to you. It's not about defending the christian faith, even less about proclaiming Christ's position of authority over creation.

[@writer_racehochdorf]

@@pawepawe5854 Candace Owens didn’t use “Christ is King” to mean Christ is King. Candace Owens used “Christ is King” to mean “I don’t like Jews.” It’s amazing how easily fellow Christians will defend someone to the death, just because that person winks in their direction. Kinda sad actually.

[@Cesar-sc9wd]

And here we can see he sold out, now he is not a free speech advocate cause MONEY.

[@windyhawthorn7387]

Free speech is also deciding when to speak. When my friends are fighting Sometimes its best to leave them all alone.

[@sercastamere9853]

He is not a free speech absolutist, which its worth pointing out NEITHER are Catholics. But by all means continue to view yourself as completely righteous

[@guruofdoodoo]

I want my 2 minutes and 51 seconds back! He states nothing about the advertised title. Click bait

[@Up2_nogood]

And yet here you are.

[@guruofdoodoo]

​@@Up2_nogoodwhatever you attempted failed. Your comment makes no sense

[@Up2_nogood]

@@guruofdoodoo WASTING EVEN MORE OF YOUR PRECIOUS TIME.

[@guruofdoodoo]

@@Up2_nogood not that I'm in a hurry but the title was misleading and i feel like I'm owed my time back

[@Up2_nogood]

@@guruofdoodoo and yet here you are.

[@stereofidelic67]

It's what he didn't say that's the important part.

[@jamoe4802]

DW is awesome so is Ben Shapiro. Not JP's fight.

[@wiseonwords]

@jamoe4802 - No, Ben Shapiro is NOT awesome. He is not a nice or principled man.

[@dave9547]

Shapiro is POS. Peterson is showing his colours. Money over values.

[@Jon_Nadeau_]

@@wiseonwords Yes he it!

[@damonnews.]

The Israel lobby and US foreign foreign policy ​@@Jon_Nadeau_

[@allenlopez9731]

Not sure if Peterson was pressed in the Gaza war. Would have been interesting to know his position. My guess is he’d have been non-committal. Too much at stake, you see, financially and career-wise. Pity.

[@dave9547]

He told ne tan yahu to "give em hell". Disgusting

[@matthewheald8964]

Can someone please tell me what’s going on with Shapiro and Owens? I’ve tried looking for articles on it, but I’m only finding left-wing articles.

[@damarisdimushi6440]

Its imperative for Jordan Peterson to speak on this matter. He a big freedom of speach Guy and we all know that he is hearing and seing what is going on with Candance, this is almost the same thing that happend to him with his teaching job. Its so like Jordan though to expose himself about the money and honestly say that is good to not be alone. He will have come around though since Daily Wire has become unwatchable for me.

[@thinsomestone]

Great response, Jordan. Very classy.

[@littleone1656]

Im still trying to find out what happened between them.

[@m.d.sharpe8892]

Disagreement over israel/palestine

[@littleone1656]

@@m.d.sharpe8892 can you be more specific or send me a link that explains more? Thanks so much for responding quickly

[@thagreatadante]

@@littleone1656 Candace statement 'Jesus is King' didn't go down too well.

[@RachelDee]

The narrative is that she offended a coworker (Ben) too much with her outspoken opinion about him and about Israel. There’s other details that could be relevant and nobody’s remembering or mentioning. None of us truly knows the whole story and we all need to do better remembering that.

[@RBtoobsalot]

@@thagreatadante Set the whole internet on fire for a few days with claims that saying "Christ is King" was an antisemetic dogwhistle.

[@JW_______]

Should have included about 2 minutes of prior conversation in the clip to give context to video.

[@Acesahn]

Reminder, when you sell out... you sell a piece of your soul.

[@gombike95]

I was looking up for JP for a long time, but now my perception about him is changing quite rapidly.

[@riodelsol3876]

I think the real reason people are so upset about his response isn’t because they think he’s a shill, even if they do think he is, but it’s because they, themselves, need someone to tell them if the daily wire and Shapiro and all of them can be trusted. And when he said he has nothing to say either you take that as he’s being courteous and truthful or he’s sold out and won’t say what he actually believes. I mean Peterson jumped on the Israel bandwagon so quick people were kinda shocked by that and then the accusations of him selling out came flooding in more than ever before and it could be true on that but also we have no idea if that’s actually what he 100% believes or was told to, but he also said they leave him alone, so who knows. It doesn’t matter who he partners up with, there will always be people throwing these kind of accusations around. I mean why else would you get so upset besides already hating him to begin with? It’s pretty obvious.

[@ashleyslack5960]

I think it's very sad what social media has done to us, that we think everyone needs to state their opinion about everything or face criticism. That's unnatural, unhealthy and has harmed our society . There is such a thing as keeping holy silence. It's not about the 1st Amendment. It's about the 8th COMMANDMENT.

[@NoaNoir]

Jordan said, "I mind the business that pays me."

[@FelipeArizola-mq1dz]

My honest opinion is that only those who already had something against Jordan are the ones speaking out against him. I respect his response, his words can only cause unnecessary controversy and become detrimental in the near future. Some might agree that that was a wise move.

[@darrobinson9830]

Jordaan Peterson: "My 30 pieces of silver compensates me well enough to know i shouldn't be biting the hand that feeds me, to know which side to pick, to know that an interview with BB & M.Yousuf as guests would please my masters.....But hey you know im nothing but neutral and would never sell out right😂😂😂"

[@BLAISEDAHL96]

Of the faults that the DW+ may have, funding the production of Jordan Peterson is one of their best investments. Does it change the mess with Candace? No, that I still consider a badly handled situation. Jordan Peterson is the sole reason I am maintaining my DW+ subscription.

[@bammbamm12]

Joh 9:22 These things his parents said, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had already agreed among themselves that if any man should confess him to be Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue.

[@maddorox]

Hes damned if he says anything and hes damned if he doesn't. Hes absolutely right in what hes doing. Whats between Candace and the Daily wire is between those two parties, why add noise to the mess. Also he is being very pragmatic and forthcoming about it, yes he is being paid well at the daily wire; if y'all were in the same situation and weren't caught up in the mess that has NOTHING to do with you, y'all wouldn't want to get involved either. So dont act all holier than thou

[@bradleymarshall5489]

The veil of the big con is coming off

[@shane9095]

Bro I am so sick of the big con nonsense. DW has been the only effective media organization in the last two decades. Stop with this nonsense. It is absolutely ridiculous. I'm telling you conservatives just want to lose.

[@coldbloodedkiz]

Sell out. Look how controlled he is by the you know whos. Just look at the fear

[@willw1753]

They probably have a gag order on him, too

[@user-hb8xk3vw5c]

Jorden is not a populist so i dont think so.

[@alexm6715]

@@user-hb8xk3vw5cJordan has a contract with the daily wire, he is obviously not allowed to speak about it

[@jamestamz]

⁠@@alexm6715he got bought, what a joke

[@D-H-Be]

sure... in the smallest companies they have some kind of gag order

[@m.d.sharpe8892]

He's not even involved in the dispute lmao why tf would he have a gag order. Stop spewing nonsense

[@axlewavey4144]

So why did she stop her podcast?

[@chrissmith4025]

As much as he adds to everything else, seems his lips are sealed.

[@alicecoffey1823]

Mr Free Speech has nothing to add! Wow, the absolute integrity.

[@JE-im5nh]

apparently being a coward is now called "class act"

[@alexkarzon3275]

“I can’t do it” 😂😂😂

[@_Thats_Right]

LOL

[@piface3016]

The eternal "I can't do it".

[@Youttubeuser20932]

Why not? Either you agree with Ben or Candace, and certainly there is something to critique about at least the one with which you disagree. Why spare the criticism? Seems like the seem reason he has for not admitting that he thinks god/Yahweh is fiction - he can’t alienate the one sided fan base he still has after the left turned on him, not completely without good reason.

[@ianmangham4570]

Where's she gone 😮 CANCELLED 😮

[@shannonengelken4629]

Fabulous!

[@greglbennett]

I gave up on the Daily Wire years ago. Shapiro, Knowles, Klavan, Walsh....All of them are sanctimonious hypocrites. Enough with the "conservative movement." Let's focus on The Gospel and leave these worldly political ideals out of it.

[@nonyadamnbusiness9887]

Separation of Church and State. Sounds good.

[@jogan.jones11]

​@@nonyadamnbusiness9887 that's... something that has never existed is the US. It's a myth

[@ExpiditionWild]

@@jogan.jones11Never read the first amendment have you?

[@jogan.jones11]

@@ExpiditionWild all of the founders were devout Christians. Tell me with a straight face they wouldn't be appalled with the state of our country. They believed in order for a democracy/republic to work, the people must be virtuous

[@lokpikr999]

This Fradd guy is the most sanctimonious and self-righteous individuals I've ever heard. His moral narcissism was particularly evident in his debate with Dennis Prager.

[@Foreign0817]

I'd probably tell them to grow up. Stop acting immature. They're supposed to be professional. Not... whatever the heck this is.

[@andreabuzzolan9807]

Isn't Jordan describing what Candance was living? Don't bite the hand that feeds you seems like

[@debede8296]

Jordan did the right thing staying out of it. Like Matt and Michael did. If only Andrew had towed same line.

[@ThuIaniNgobeni]

Good for you Jordan.

[@Floridiansince94]

Dr. Peterson is a class act!

[@dave9547]

He's a hupocrite

[@user-vz3jd1wv3w]

So basically he said " i like money "

[@pulsar403]

I can’t wait to no longer have to read comments about this “feud” on every conservative video

[@adrianafernandez5618]

I think he's been clear , it will sort by itlself.

[@frankrizzo5262]

Glad the Dailey wire supports you

[@jk777212]

I like Ben.. but I feel he went over the top.. and lettuce feelings get in the way.. of sound judgment.. my opinion only.. then I definitely agree more with Candice with regards to this whole thing..

[@ItsThatGuy1989]

Candace is an antisemite and grifter. She has nothing good to say. Don’t just agree with someone because they have the “right religion”

[@thedarkwolf3047]

Ben just seems to have dual loyalties. Idk I used to like him a lot but anytime there is some policy that would truly be America first but that would cost say Israel or Ukraine suddenly we have to do what’s “morally right” in foreign policy.

[@ItsThatGuy1989]

@@thedarkwolf3047 “dual loyalty” no he has never been an isolationist in terms of foreign policy. To him there needs to be an off-ramp. He doesn’t believe in funding Ukraine indefinitely. But it is WILD that Americans suddenly think we should throw Ukraine to Russia. If you are old enough , chances are you were like pro-invading Iraq at the time. Funding Israel and Ukraine makes FAR more sense and is a lot cheaper, costing 0 American lives to do

[@DailyWisdom37]

only people that easily manipulated can be on her side. She runs around apologize Muslim because of the way they have been treated after 9/11. Yeah, say that to the victims of the event. After October 7th all she reports was how Israel bombing damage some part of a church in that war zone. It's a war zone for God sake. If there is a black massacre she would jump up and down, not that silent. During the height of the feud after Ben's video, she posted a line saying you can only choose God or money. Ben's response was nothing wrong, if she thinks working for DW gets in the way of her serving God, she should quit. But no, she runs around saying she was simply quoting the Bible and being attacked. Really? Candace, the mama bear, the drama queen, was simply quoting it without any implications for the other side at all? I saw it as a lie, and using Bible to your own agenda is much more sinister, and I'm not even religious like somebody who is always using buzzword "Chris is King" to their agenda like her. Was a follower before that but it was too obvious from her moves and lies. She was trying to find a way out, did everything she could to stir the pot, and appeal to the large population of ever growing Muslims, who always consider her "Chris is King" is their enemy.

[@periechontology]

@@ItsThatGuy1989 if you're old enough you supported the war in Iraq BECAUSE you initially believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction that he could pawn off to terrorist organizations.

[@jeremiah5342]

Jordan can't speak against the hand that feeds him.

[@janelleg597]

If you think he's incapable of criticism for anyone, then you haven't been listening

[@Thunderpussy1234]

@@janelleg597 Listening? We watched him walk off the stage in silence when questioned about his Tiny Hat masters. Jeremiah is correct.

[@pudgywudgy7111]

​@@janelleg597 not a matter of his ability to take criticism, it's a legal matter

[@dave9547]

Yep. Hypocrite sellout.

[@HawkingRegime13]

I can't put my nose on this

[@frankjoyce76]

Oy ye vay! shut it down

[@RacingSnails64]

You guys aren't very subtle

[@RacingSnails64]

@@frankjoyce76You guys REALLY aren't subtle

[@frankjoyce76]

@RacingSnails64 who's trying to be subtle? I guess now that we're caught, we'll just leave through the wooden doors

[@jacobhughes9010]

The free speech guy not commenting on the company he works for silencing a former employee with a gag order after agreeing to debate that former employee is a little disappointing. And I’m someone who has been a huge fan of Jordan for years. Don’t have hero’s, they’ll always let you down.

[@andyniblock5386]

Its interesting that Jordans first reaction was to start defending his relationship with DW. Almost as if he knew they were in the wrong. No one questioned his partnership with DW so why on earth start explaining all the benefits?

[@michaeladams2575]

If you watched the whole interview the conversation moved to CO because they were already talking about DW

[@crimson6172]

That's how you see it? The way I see it, he just doesn't want to say anything inflammatory because there is no reason for him to do so. So he just decided to say something positive about working at DW, something that he got first hand experience on.

[@kalkydra]

Well well well JP... money money money....

[@SubFlow22]

Not sure why there are so many conservative personalities that want to take sides and create extra drama from this Ben and Candace disagreement. Jeremy at the Quartering, Benny Johnson, Lauren Chen, done with them all. Petty people that want to get more views by sewing dissent amongst conservatives.

[@Youttubeuser20932]

Debate and disagreement is better than acting like a hive mind.

[@followerofchrist3125]

@@Youttubeuser20932True, but people don’t need to milk a story for so long. It was business and people get fired, conservatives need to focus on more important issues.

[@kevinjoseph9790]

I think this disagreement is actually good cuz it shows the ideological differences in place within the conservative movement on different issues. IMO Ben might have good social views but he has terrible foreign policy and economic takes and I think that’s important to point out even if it causes tension, Israel is one those issues.

[@Youttubeuser20932]

@@followerofchrist3125 It’s not milking a story. It’s a big issue, and two famous political commentators disagree. Why not let them go back and forth? AlsoX Peterson comments on a bunch of other far less important stuff, like a fat girl on a magazine cover, an actress getting a mastectomy, or bike lanes. He’s also commented on this issue specifically. Why not call out Candace since he thinks Israel should “give them hell”.

[@followerofchrist3125]

@@Youttubeuser20932 Like I said, there are more important issues than Candace and Ben’s drama.

[@baseballmomof8]

DW is an awesome group. I wish Mrs. Farmer good luck.

[@beatricebliss9379]

As you can see, your comment has got no likes so far lol.

[@scoutbond4251]

I'm extremely sad to see Jordan not stick up for Christ is King . Simply because he is paid a lot of money, and he's "not alone". This is counter to what I believe him to be. 😢

[@beautifulrose8619]

Jordan says "He hates when there'e rules for everything". One important rule and DW is "Do not in any way, shape or form criticize Jews or Israel". So I am not really feeling that this is an organization with no rules.

[@sercastamere9853]

Nowhere in those contracts does it state that. Implying Ben has some kind of deathgrip over speech at the entire company that he only co-owns with a protestant and a catholic is flatout retarded and antisemitic. God is God.

[@HG-zm4qg]

Love him and Shapiro.

[@stratosfire1943]

Jordan saying what most morons on the Internet dont understand. "Im not involved on the situation and its not my business to speculate"

[@dave9547]

whatever makes you feel better, dude. They're all on zy an ist payroll. A lot of Petersons stardom came from his staunch support of free speech. He's a massive hypocrite and a coward. Deal with it.

[@artemissthee3]

Nice

[@BENYJOSE1]

So, he sides with Daily Wire / Ben Shapiro because they pay him well, but they don't pay him well enough to be an absolute buffoon about it (i.e. Andrew Klavan). Got it. Totally fair position for him.

[@palsenka5755]

Christ is King!! but is not JP fight - he is not Christian ,he has his battles he want to focus on and get well paid .

[@antoinettekankindi6807]

Ok, don't mess with the money, stay away from C O sharp tongue... That's all the prof is saying

[@user-fb1qg3sn3x]

The man with so much to say.... with absolutly nothing to say 😂

[@darrobinson9830]

In the old days they called it "30 pieces of silver" to act a particular way!!