Ben Roethelisberger Says This Steelers Team Has Killed The Steelers Culture | Pat McAfee Reacts

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[@justinah7400]

If anyone says Tomlin deserves credit for the past success, then he 100% deserves criticism for the failures as well. The foundation of a team is the culture, and that starts with the head coach, which affects the entire coaching staff and roster.

[@bigmac1495]

Agreed. I hate to say it but I think it’s about time for a change. The team had gone too doo doo. I’ve been saying for awhile that I hat they have on the field is not Pittsburgh football. Now that Ben says it I know my gut has been right.

[@dew-me7266]

Tomlin won with Bills men, Tomlin players sux.

[@JohnDoe-zr8pc]

Tomlin did A LOT of damage to this entire team by not only keeping Canada after last season, but by continuing to keep him for 1/2 the year this season, when it was crystal clear that it just wasn’t working. He lost a good bit of the locker room over that, and it took starting players complaining to the media to get Tomlin to FINALLY get rid of him. That’s really not good.

[@sweethoneymustard7661]

Tomlin is a winner.. he's never had a losing season. Say what you want. But he's not a loser. He was still gonna go positive again this year with OC. He's got full control of that locker room. Always has always will. The teams just not that talented at the moment and always going positive makes it hard to get top draft prospects. Be grateful steelers fans. Your teams not loser, and that's more than most teams can say.

[@josephpotter7776]

That's the organization tho. Loyalty to a fault is better than whatever the opposite of that is

[@williamhanley7031]

Always a year to late on everything. Starting Pickett. Firing Canada, 86ing oshefski. Next is getting a new punter. Should of been done last year. Getting real back up qb's. The list goes on. Then you have the 4th down situations 2 games in a row when we should take the points. Steelers nation is suffering from Mike's pride and stburness

[@MyMonsterguy]

Imagine complaining about Tomlin. If you guys get rid of him you’ll be the next patriots. Be humble and enjoy what you have. It’s hard to win super bowls. Some organizations still have yet to do it. If you act rash only bad things will come in this league.

[@63supercobrajet]

100% agree.

[@Alkholic420]

Crazy thing is even A.B was talking how Pickens is acting lol

[@JB-32015]

It's even crazier that he's actually offering sane advice on how to handle the frustrating scenarios Pickens is frequently in

[@tacotacotington3638]

AB was wild, but at least his play always backed it up and afforded him that leeway. These WR’s deserve no leeway.

[@christophersmith8316]

time was Pitt wouldn't go for a WR with an attitude problem.

[@Rowsy91]

Yeah AB is legit insane enough that id walk out of any building i saw him enter. Dudes brain is the definition of unpredictable so i aint looking to him on any topic lol But yes the Pitt wrs are always insane. Now they arent even good to make up for it

[@MonitorMonarch]

@@tacotacotington3638 You can be a diva when you're the best receiver in the game for 3-4 years. Imagine he never gets that burfict hit and the CTE never happens. Dude could have had 2-3 really exceptional years beyond what he did

[@zabarang1]

Ravens fan here. Back when Big Ben and Ray Lewis were playing was some of the best and most entertaining football every year. Love to hate them but respected them at the same time. Football was more like football back then also, not flag football like it is now.

[@BasicName02]

Let’s not call it flag football boss. These guys today are incredibly huge and fast, at every position even the OL. It’s not soft football but they have rules in place now that should of been in place decades ago. They just need to stop treating QBs like they are glass

[@sirhumphreyappleby6498]

He’s right. It’s flag football played by multimillionaires who don’t care like they used to. They don’t have to. The old Steelers/Ravens games were awesome. That game is gone forever. They will be wearing flags within 20 years.

[@Pikesburgh]

​@@BasicName02it's softer than ever. You have new brutal sports popping up like Bare Knuckle Boxing... people LOVE seeing people get knocked out and have no issue with that sport, yet throw temper tantrums about a sport where guys have helmets and pads. It's softer than wet toilet paper.

[@187420666es]

No one gives af if you are a ravens fans, just say you fantasize about meat munchin both these players at the same time 🤣🤡🫵🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Certified-DM-]

@@PikesburghI’d rather get hit with bare knuckles than get helmet to helmet contact from a dude running 20 mph, but you’re not wrong. Many of these roughing calls and such are not penalties

[@kfizzle18]

Growing up on the outskirts of Pittsburgh, people all around the area took so much pride in the Steelers. It’s a shame that’s getting harder to do.

[@domkeys]

i grew up here in weirton ben was drafted when i was born and he retired when i was 17 my whole life all i ever knew was ben winning and being our teams leader i miss him and wish the franchise never pushed him out

[@danlil9205]

Deal with it

[@papadiamond5925]

Man I stuck with my team when we had multiple seasons of under 3 wins and I never thought about switching teams , you have bad seasons and good but you got to be loyal to enjoy the good

[@velikynovgorod4358]

I don't think it's a shame at all. Y'all have shat on us Browns fans for two decades, now y'all might just get a taste of what we've felt.

[@toeey14]

A couple mediocre seasons in the last 30 years and yinz are sweating it?

[@NealFowler]

ben roethlesberger, known motivator and team leader.

[@J_Caban]

Known women respecter Ben roethlisburger

[@steelcityking7316]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@packlesswolf1]

And rapist. Don't you all forget about that.

[@NateBee]

Ben Roethlisberger, known rapist.

[@innocentrage1]

Rapistburger

[@otf-mikeey_4202]

We need Troy on this show!! Why hasn’t it happened yet!??? Make it happen

[@donnacochran3335]

PLEASE!!!

[@connorshee8386]

He was on the show a while back, they talked about the infamous story together

[@donnacochran3335]

@@connorshee8386 OH MY GOODNESS!!! Can you please tell me where to find it? My dad and I used to watch the Steelers when I was a kid and teenager. The Steelers will ALWAYS have a special place in my heart. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

[@ReedAboutIt]

He has been!

[@brypete]

Or Mr Greg Lloyd...

[@KenRFoxNashvilleSEO]

As a Steelers fan for 40 years what Ben is saying is 1000% right

[@suepeacock3342]

I've been a fan since 1970

[@JaymooreDominusgolf]

Ben is absolutely correct!!! The Steelers tradition is no longer. The Steeler's ran the AFC North for year. We lost our physically on offense and now it's starting to show on the defense.

[@SharonMcinstry1970]

Didn’t they have problems with players not coming to practice and not wanting to play for the team.

[@williamduda3418]

Except for those years Baltimore ran it. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@JacobGen]

@@williamduda3418Baltimore had the same culture. Tough, hard nosed defensive teams. Gritty hard hitting smart teams. Pittsburgh vs. Baltimore was always a must see game regardless of if you were a fan or not because you were gonna get a tough football game.

[@kermitwilson]

I love the Steelers. Not my team, I live on the west coast. But whenever I feel nostalgia for the 1980s or 1990s I watch the a Steelers game. Old school baby, never change.

[@ImThatGuy02]

Egos are turning football into an individual sport. These young bucks coming into the league aren't there for the team they are there for themselves... it's not just football it's the entire vibe of how the USA operates.

[@jbjacobs9514]

When Ben said that a few months ago, Cam b&tched about that too and trashed Ben. It was correct what Ben said then and what he said now.

[@benisrood]

Pat doesn’t help this cultural problem at all.

[@bobbyraejohnson]

Omg yes!!!! 👏👏👏

[@Michael-tc1dm]

Social media and the obsession with clout. Show me a team that doesn't have social media, And I'll show you a team that'll be the next dynasty.

[@user-ym9dz5uy2v]

depends on the team's culture. The Falcons have a real brotherhood going and all want to be better together.

[@Apollo708]

What Ben said was right, but I think he fails to recognize his part in why this is happening. He made it impossible to draft a successor that can learn the "Steelers way" to be the next leader for the offense and even when they did draft QBs he'd be pissy and complain about why that doesn't help him win. He wasn't the best embassador either!

[@TheRPB53]

That was my first thought like if your the last of the old guard leaving and the current team doesn’t have the culture aren’t you kinda responsible

[@MarvyG23]

Why draft qbs when you have a franchise qb who never played

[@russellhaines1185]

He has never taken ownership of the mess he created with Brown and Bell

[@REVIVALFitness]

@@russellhaines1185 What mess? Brown went off the deep end and Bell seemed to stop caring. Idk what Ben has to do with those circumstances.

[@kylermichael3972]

@@russellhaines1185did he? Or did he make them.. AB is noting with out Ben. Ben is still a Super Bowl champion. Plus AB talks highly of Ben now.

[@shawnevans1444]

Its was easy for him when he inherited Cowhers veteran defense and Big Ben. They have fizzled out every since superbowl 45!

[@tyso71]

Big Ben is 100% right! Im a Ravens fan and I really miss Big Ben, Hines Ward big Jerome etc.. even though for the most part, the Steelers got the better end of those games, they were amazing games and there will never be anything like it again. I hated Ben but we all respected him for being one tough SOB.

[@michaelpalombo3170]

Ravens look solid this season.

[@RemingtonSteel]

Best games every season

[@kylesneed406]

Tomlins defensive philosophy worked well when he came to Pittsburgh - He inherited a veteran roster in one of the best defensive eras of the modern NFL. Tomlin refuses to evolve with the game though and his stubbornness has cost the Steelers for years now. The relationship has run its course and is now doing more harm than good.

[@raife0159]

Defense isn't the problem in Pittsburgh though...

[@dfmp925]

Dick LeBeau was the Steeler’s defense. Tomlin is a moron.

[@colinhogan5661]

Tomlin only cares about being over .500 and winning at home. Get a new head coach

[@kylesneed406]

@@raife0159 That wasn’t my point. Tomlins lack of innovation is the point. And I wouldn’t say the Steelers defense isn’t a problem. They might be Top 10 in PPG but they are ranked 21st against the pass and run. Bend don’t break is an easy way to stack up L’s.

[@michaelfolino2312]

Tomlin never used his defensive philosophy in Pittsburgh. The 1 year he was a DC he ran a 4-3. He came to Pittsburgh were he was forced to retain LeBuae and keep the 3-4. The dude really had no control over his team for years. When he got control of the team, the worse the team got.

[@Switchfoot81084]

Ben is right I hate watching this team play. Even when they win it feels like they got lucky and didn’t earn it.

[@imanoldurango8213]

Ben killed the Steelers culture by not retiring earlier 😂 also bold of him to say they get lucky when he lead the most fraudulent 11-0 team a few years ago. He was getting lucky af during that streak and collapsed into a wildcard exit in the playoffs. If he had retired earlier the rebuild could’ve happened much sooner and they most likely wouldn’t be stuck with Kenny Pickett right now

[@SimbaOtsutsuki]

Ben raped women what are you talking about ?

[@orionguevera]

everything woulda been okay if we drafted jalen hurts

[@sirhumphreyappleby6498]

Kenny’s not the problem. The coaching is the problem. It’s at every level. How can Dotson look like a scrub in Pittsburgh and look good in LA? Same with Green in Houston. The coaching is terrible, and that starts at the top. Tomlin hires scrubs and guys that are not up and coming, but guys going down and on their way out of the league. There is a reason Tomlin doesn’t have a coaching tree after 17 years. He hires mediocrity.

[@Switchfoot81084]

@@imanoldurango8213 he won 2 rings he has the right to say whatever he wants. You on the other hand are a nobody.

[@colleenbarrett2663]

Trouble is the whole NFL is headed that direction 😢

[@BrianJones-rx9cq]

100% agree with you

[@mlee1337]

What direction is the NFL headed in? Can you please explain thanks 😊

[@97NikeSb]

NFL is still the #1 sport in the country and making billions every year. The NFL is not in trouble at all idiot

[@upnextgem2185]

@@mlee1337new era no more hard iron defense allow and more passing then ever not a run and defense game no more

[@crumblelord1302]

Well, look at the chiefs. That is what wins now. Plain and simple. The game adapts.

[@nateallen6779]

Love how everyone except Ben lobs the defense in with the offense

[@Sai1orJerry]

At the same time he's not taking accountability for why the offense didn't maintain that mentality. He was the leader there, and could have instilled it. He's a clown.

[@eternal_napalm6442]

The Defense is one of the most overrated in football. Statistically, they are bottom of the league in most categories despite all the money invested.

[@T1GERDAN]

@@eternal_napalm6442 trash take

[@bendup52]

​@@T1GERDANstoolers are trash

[@phantomlostable]

​@@eternal_napalm6442when your on the field a ton with zero rest because of inept offense that constantly goes 3 and out your defensive statistics will go down the tube. Not to mention they playing practice squad ILBs the past few weeks and can no longer cover the middle of the field.

[@HiphopFaded]

This team needs more attitude adjustments than edge when he slapped Cena’s dad.

[@ok2smokeganja]

In his own house too…good times

[@dp6447]

Nice

[@Adamame93]

Based reference

[@tharengore7215]

Awesome reference 👏 😂

[@LG215x]

The last time edge was actually a big deal…

[@braydenleis4735]

The decline of the culture started with teams “lead” by Big Ben. And then not to mention all the divas they have tolerated for their talent. They loved the steeler way but they got lost

[@Workscroller]

Actually started when Mike Tomlin became head coach

[@dylanisboring]

@@Workscroller Nah, you just went mask off weirdo

[@eternal_napalm6442]

Big Ben didn't give up 45 to Blake Bortles or get torched by Tim Tebow in OT. A certain "defensive guru" did.

[@rickmiller2668]

Idiot comment, Two time Superbowl champion, would have had three if Mendenhall doesn't drop ball

[@pbraga7832]

The players attitudes, mentality has always been selected the same. But the attitudes because of the way things are going aren't directed through the team giving us or nastiness, but it's individual and directed at the team instead

[@Sneakycat1971]

The Steelers pretty much sucked in the 80's until they were able to start drafting better talent in the early 90s. The Rooney's are the ones that kept rhe organization to a certain standard. Is time to make a change like when they pushed out Chuck Noll and replaced him with Bill cower? If they can push out Chuck Noll then they can damn sure push out Tomlin.

[@JamesZ1025]

If mikey t weren’t black, I think he’d already be gone

[@jkarpov3634]

80s Steelers were rough. It was hard to cheer for Malone and Brister... 😩

[@jpete3027666]

@@JamesZ1025 Tomlin's one ring was a team that Cowher pretty much assembled, and Tomlin inherited Big Ben who was more of a finished product when Tomlin got there, as opposed to the game manager version of him that Cowher had.

[@joes4987]

The best days of big ben, Polamalu, harrison, hines ward, the bus bettis... now its a bunch of divas who cant punch their way out of a wet paper bag

[@PeterSedesse]

Tomlin drafts ' splash play' type guys, Cowher drafted football players. Even just the defense you see the difference. Steelers have been near the bottom of the league in run defense for a decade now. They draft guys for sacks and for INTs, and in the meantime those players are putting no effort into stopping the run. Run the ball and stop the run... that is what the Steelers have always been. Watch Hines Ward on a run play blowing up Ed Reed, then watch Dionte Johnson not even attempt a block because run plays don't help his stats. Tomlin benefited so much from having Dick LeBeau as long as he did and because Ben didn't retire. I think now we end up as the early Browns, where we draft a QB in the first round every year for a decade, and then blame him and replace him for not winning.

[@JDOPost]

As a Bengals fan listening to the dysfunction that’s the Pittsburgh Steelers now is AWESOME! 😂

[@Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om]

What I think is AWESOME is how the Bengals paid Burrow huge money and Browning can run the offense just as well as he can. It proves how mediocre most QBs are now.

[@scottm9158]

​@@Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om or proves how much better teams are at building depth at the position

[@jorgegaytan3012]

Your team will never win a superBowl now that's fuckin hilarious

[@kelsotater3380]

Don't you think somebody there now would have learned from Ben. Or maybe the reality of the situation doesn't meet the memory of Bens. Wasn't he the quarterback that had the fiasco of Antonio Brown happened. And wasn't he the quarterback with all the Juju dancing, celebrating, posting videos from the locker room? Toughness

[@juultoo]

AB was going to happen independent of Ben. Juju wasn't a big deal for the most part, he just wasn't particularly buttoned up.

[@kylermichael3972]

Look at all the injuries he played through. All the 4th quarter comeback.. yeah he embodies toughness. But hey a haters gonna hate

[@ericsinclair1826]

Really glad u pointed out how love big Ben is in Pittsburgh. Ben will forever be a legend in Pittsburgh and any true fan knows how important big Ben was to this franchise. Big Ben could be mayor of the Burg in 10 seconds. Guaranteed. Anything Ben says will be taken very seriously by Steelers fans.

[@CzechThisOutToday]

Just don't ask about what he did in that bathroom

[@thebroham5239]

@@CzechThisOutTodaythat girl was later convicted for lying to try to scam a 42yo man out of 25k

[@thebroham5239]

unfortunately too many liberal idiots in pittsburgh who would only vote for a commie DEI hire

[@ericsinclair1826]

@@CzechThisOutToday your the only one wanting that information.

[@JP1Time]

A few years ago I think it was Bens last year I was driving through Pitt 10 minutes before game day and I seen like 20 Ben jerseys in the gas station… I felt so outta place😂

[@TheyCallMeGator]

It's funny how the fans were all screaming to fire their OC, now that they've realized it didn't change anything, they want Tomlin gone. Newsflash, it ain't the coaching. 😂

[@angelatanurdzic7508]

Great podcast.

[@propool1]

Tomlin is the main issue at this point. He squandered a hof quarterback, #1 wr, and premier rb for several years. He has what, 3 playoff wins in the last 11 years? He has mismanaged the clock for all of his career. One important fact is Tomlin's teams lose to a team with the worst record in football on an annual basis. That is crazy. He cannot motivate his team and have them ready to play against weak teams. All of this comes down to a leadership issue. These players need discipline and guidance. Players used to fear going back to the sideline after making stupid mistakes when Cowher was waiting to yell with spit flying everywhere. You can't be their best bud. You have a job to do. Player conduct should be an absolute highest requirement as well. Too much money flowing not to expect something extra out of each and everyone of them. Lastly, how long do you think high quality players are gonna want to stick around with a coach and team that can't at least fight for a playoff spot?

[@imilliemedina666]

I guess you're referring to AB and Bell. Can't blame Tomlin for that. But yeah, huge difference with Cowher.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

They had that huge offence but they never ran up the score on anyone. When they were playing a crap team they'd dog it for 3 quarters and then pull out a win at the end.

[@Steelers4life68]

Big Ben! You crushed my Bengals

[@KspekEvo]

He is basically admitting to not leaving that culture with the steelers. Lol

[@tacotacotington3638]

It’s not up to him for the next generation to keep it going. It’s on them. Offensive players haven’t even been giving effort.

[@tylerhayes4584]

@@tacotacotington3638we drafted Rudolph and Ben threw a fit and wouldn’t teach him. It’s partially his fault for not addressing his aging and regretting body

[@BasicName02]

@@tacotacotington3638he didn’t help pass it on. He’s been an ass to all the new guys

[@clv735]

​@@tacotacotington3638running the culture into the dirt means the next generation has struggled to find a culture

[@jbjacobs9514]

Mason isn't 5. He didn't need Ben to TEACH him. He didn't throw a fit. He simply said he wished they spent the pick on a player that would help them THEN not 10 years later. Plus, Mason isn't exactly blowing up the place. If he did, we wouldn't need Trubisky, Kenny, or anyone, right? Ben spent plenty of time with a lot of QBs in the house - stop being the media and making drama where there isn't.@@tylerhayes4584

[@NotSoSilentMajority]

He's right, but I also don't remember him doing that when AB was acting a fool or other wideouts were more worried about tiktok views

[@KnicksFtw2012]

That’s because he had pouncey to do it

[@OngoGablogian487]

You're way overselling how *LOVED* Ben is in Pittsburgh lol We appreciate what he accomplished with the team and all but he's not especially liked as a person. At all.

[@getbrainseeds]

he's a white deshawn watson and he is guilty

[@brianhughes701]

If you can’t see that Ben isn’t loved in Pittsburgh, then you must be from another alternate universe. He exemplifies Pittsburgh.

[@moresalad221]

Every year I would watch the Steelers every game. Past two years Im missing more of their games because they're just not the same team Ive been watching for 20 years. Their magic is gone and this starts on the top.

[@anthonysmith8946]

Fair weather fan

[@socklips7655]

The culture that forced Villanueva to apologize for standing up for the national anthem, as a prior Army Captain? F*CK PIT

[@vitigaymer1053]

Steelers have been trending downwards since 2010s kicked off. Rodgers took their soul at 2010 Superbowl

[@Legio__X]

Big Ben was a perfect fit for the Steelers. Everything about him from his Play style to his toughness, just screams Pittsburgh.

[@jrg5315]

He also helped cause the downfall of the Steelers lmfao

[@Ruderickle2424]

Rapist.

[@Pikesburgh]

​@@jrg5315HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Good one. The young players today are self absorbed divas. They don't listen to Cam Heyward or the Steelers way. Steelers culture is dead for good.

[@A_r78]

Ben “without consent” rothlisberger

[@staying-positive]

Don’t know if Big Ben was perfect when he wasn’t assaulting girls in GA.

[@discostuchannel]

I think Urinating tree would have a lot to say about how Ben carried the culture of the Steelers

[@rickslusher1003]

Love Big Ben, Hines Ward and all them guys in that era. And Big Ben is 100%. I remember the day you could have took anyone on offense they could have played defense they were nasty. And Steeler fans loved it.

[@JusSaYinSlots]

Why don’t they move the kicker back to their own 25. All kick team minus the kicker starts at the opponents 40. Receiving team at their 30 with only two allowed at the 20 and 1 inside the ten. The ball travels into the end zone untouched in the air it is a touchback. However the ball is only returnable if it received from the ten to the 1 yard line. If it falls short of reaching the 10 it’s a penalty and the ball is placed on the 30yard line. If the ball hits inside the ten and 1 yard line and isn’t picked up it’s a live ball. If it happens to bounce into the end zone prior to being picked up it’s a penalty on the receiving team and ball is placed at the 20 yard line. Players are able to move once the ball is either touched or hits the ground

[@frankzappa9148]

Steelers fan. Live 30 minutes outside the city. He’s 100% right

[@Nyg5618]

I listen to Footbahlin every week. Ben always speaks his mind and is sometimes too honest for his own good. He’s speaking the truth here for sure.

[@TimLoyalToWifeHaterFreeZoneA]

Love It Pat ThePatMcAfeeShow Bro Let's Gooooooooo.

[@carrjeep7538]

This is Ben’s way of saying Tomlin is trash without saying it.

[@eternal_napalm6442]

He literally said the coaching is bad.

[@blitzzzburgh77]

*I agree 💯 because I've been a fan since the mid 80's when they suxed, but it was the 70's Defense and tradition that hooked me, and I have been a DIEHARD FAN SINCE PERIOD!*

[@hogari]

The Steelers Culture hasn't existed for a while now in the offence, and Ben was still very much around when it started going down the drain. I mean he's right, but he's also not entirely bereft of blame. Of course it was not only his job to uphold the culture, but along with the coaches he was the one the young guys looked up to.

[@user-xc4lr1se5n]

True and he should have passed that to Mason but he made Mason feel like he wasn't wanted or needed. He's the guy to pass the offensive baton.

[@Xmidnight8]

I think we need some former player on this coaching staff to get us back to the steeler way. Bring in Hines ward in some capacity. He has coaching experience and has been apart of winning teams. Great mind for this offense

[@tuhkathri9126]

Interesting. KJ Wright has been saying the same thing about the Seahawks. Guess it's happening to a few teams. What a shame.

[@georgecoull1883]

Ben is why Tomlin never had a losing season

[@texaswayz2289]

😂 how many super bowls?yeah ok...

[@SimonBarsinister]

If true then you could say the current quarterbacks are the reason Tomlin is losing. So it's not Tomlin's fault.

[@eternal_napalm6442]

Big Ben has 2 Super Bowl rings.

[@TooKlingy]

Wide receiver room has been ruining that team for years. AB, Juju, Claypool, Diante, and now Pickens. Someone there has let them all become Divas. Whoever’s let this happen needs to go.

[@rhyswheeler858]

Notice how three of those five played with Ben, maybe he’s not the great leader he’s claimed to be….

[@ryanjacobson2508]

Those guys were brain dead to begin with.

[@crumbasyouare]

7:20 pat looks like he had vietnam flashbacks as soon as chuck mentioned that polamalu c gap play

[@franthevan65]

As a Steelers fan I agree I said something similar to this these guys just act like they’re there to get a check no sense of urgency. And agree with chuck essentially said Kenny ain’t it

[@livetotell100]

Ben is very gracious. he mentioned the 70's, yet he didn't acknowledge the Steelers of the 90's and 2000's. Which he was a part of the 2000 teams. And the players of those decades kept the tradition alive. And won 2 out 4 Super Bowls during those 20 years. So many Division Championships as well. God, the AFC North WAS the Steelers. They played smash mouth, in your face, football. If you played the Steelers, even if you won, you went home sore and with bumps and bruises all over your body. For all you new Steeler fans. Watch the 2008 AFC Championship game. And watch that Ryan Clark hit on that Ravens player at the end of the game. THAT was Steelers football.

[@dwightgayle9589]

A bunch of garbage

[@AnonymousRandomGuy006]

I watched that game live. There were a lot of hits in that game that I can’t find on KZbin or anywhere. WRs wyere crack backing DBs, Oline man punishing D line man, and they were all Steelers on Ravens. That Steelers team completely bullied the Ravens that day, completing the perfect sweep against them and everything. I had a lot of respect for that Ravens team, and I never seen them get bullied like that before. I think even Limas Sweed cracked some CB I’m not a fan of either team. I’m just speaking objectively.

[@livetotell100]

@@AnonymousRandomGuy006 No crackbacks allowed anymore. It's called the "Hines Ward" rule. He was a Steelers receiver. Who will also go in the Hall of Fame soon.

[@bobbyraejohnson]

There was also a lot of dirty hits.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

Did you want a Bubby-Slash shoutout?

[@edbetsworth2772]

The head coach sets the tone for the team’s culture. It’s been like this for years. It’s time to let Mike Tomlin go and start fresh.

[@getbrainseeds]

you steelers fans kill me you said the ssame about canada, since canada left yall cant even score TDs.... maybe your players just suck

[@edbetsworth2772]

@@getbrainseedsyou really need to change your handle. If you had any brains, you would know how to spell, punctuate, and proof read.

[@noisyboy4985]

⁠@@getbrainseedsfirst game after Canada left Steelers went for over 400 yards for the first time in 4 years so I’d say Canada was a major problem but he’s not the only problem Pickett’s terrible too

[@cya329]

Manning only played the Steelers 3 times when in Indy. And had a 2-1 record. He faced the Steelers 1 more time with the Broncos and had a win there as well.

[@leetraviusmckay314]

"Jim Irsay needs to pipe down" 😂

[@jamesclark7630]

Steelers should have signed Gardner Minshew, guy is the prototype Steelers QB.

[@joegreezy]

lol I like Gardner Minshew

[@smokert5555]

Dude is one to talk. The culture's deteriorations started the last half of his career. Didn't he regularly throw his teammates under the bus?

[@towertito2149]

Big Ben was that guy. A straight up WINNER!!!

[@pittsburghsteelersfans]

As a Bengals enthusiast, this situation strongly echoes the conclusion of the Marvin Lewis era in Cincinnati. Let me state upfront: I recognize that Marvin Lewis is not synonymous with Mike Tomlin, and the Bengals do not mirror the Steelers. Despite my disdain for Pittsburgh, I can objectively acknowledge the historical identities of the Bengals and Steelers. That being said, Bengals fans fervently called for Lewis to step down for numerous years. It became evident that Lewis' communication was no longer impactful. Although he didn't secure a playoff victory, he guided the Bengals to the playoffs on five occasions. Yet, all I kept hearing from the national media was, "Be cautious about what you desire!"

[@rolanddeschain965]

It's not just this team , it's a general cultural collapse. Without getting to deep, we're fd unless something drastically changes.

[@mharp6166]

Big Ben.... An excellent leader who always cared about putting team first. He was such a model person I'd even trust him alone with my sister.

[@tonygaertner8863]

Lmao or brother, can’t discriminate these days bro

[@blitzzzburgh77]

*Unfortunately with the changing of the guard "aka" the NEWEST GENERATION, This is just a reflection of people today in society & playing in the NFL!!! No Morals, No Heart, No Work Ethics, No Respect, PERIOD!!!*

[@user-ms4lr1hf6p]

Not to mention the college NIL deals that make the players more entitled to be lazy

[@leethecomedian]

When they play the colts they should honor the 1995 AFC Championship or Big Bens shoestring tackle.

[@bobbyraejohnson]

Why that was the past. Steelers need to stop looking at the past and look to the future.

[@blitzzzburgh77]

*For the 1st time since I became a Steeler's fan in mid 80's I have never seen my team like this! It's OBVIOUS the team needs leadership and players that want to actually play!!! I'm EMBARRASSED to watch WR's not blocking anyone and to watch huge offensive linemen just allow someone to come around and sack the QB SERIOUSLY!!! When Ben left we lost our General & Leader PERIOD!!! I NEVER thought I would say these words but I don't want them in the playoffs PERIOD!!! I'll sum things up in 4 words: This AIN'T MY STEELERS PERIOD!!!*

[@Jane-Doe-1]

Non Steelers fan here…. Is Tomlin really that good of a coach? Dudes had a great roster pretty much his whole tenure besides the last few years

[@ErWoody99]

Steelers culture died in 2018, and ben was a major part of that

[@royce3582]

Haven’t been the same since the AB, JuJu, and Leveon drama. Rudolph getting smashed by his helmet after his hissy fit on Garrett sealed it

[@unconditionalLove1]

I’d argue his radio show actually killed “Steelers culture” years ago

[@davidgalinat4257]

To me, Ben's only sin is being too open to what's going on behind the scenes. Many people just want him to shut up and play (while being a vocal leader at the same time). Its a lose/lose situation for him.

[@guins99]

Silly

[@marvinhunt8276]

Put that crack pipe down

[@manyourground]

Every single Yinzer should also be subscribed to PittsburghDad too🖤💛👍🏾

[@SM-ys8lw]

as a browns fan, thoose 20 years of being dominated was worth seeing them implode like this, im going to savour it

[@Es_keet_it__Litty]

The crazy thing is I've felt this way since the killer B's left. With the exception of a couple guys on the O-line. Ntm let's all not forget, A top 5 QB, the number 1 WR & RB in the League and Tomlin STILL couldn't get it done. Chuck, I love ya, but don't talk to me about QB. There is a lot of truth to it but our problems are MUCH bigger than that!

[@reggiebrice9746]

Much much love for Ben, and even though I knew that, it hit different coming from him

[@ericscott9029]

Ben Roethlisberger, now THERE'S a guy who doesn't take no for an answer!

[@wyattmiller5268]

underrated comment for sure lol.

[@sincitycapital]

See what you did there

[@Benji-ig6xw]

Steelers under Tomlin have been self destructing for a long time.

[@Miller73]

Tomlin is in 🐐 conversations. Really shows what not having a quarterback does.

[@BHox01]

@@Miller73 shouldnt be, has as many playoff wins as the pirates in the last 12 years with some of the best rosters of all time

[@rondo_with_it5946]

@@BHox01look at his qb play. Ben was a shell of himself towards the end Pickett is a game manager at best. The fact that he keeps scraping together winning seasons is impressive.

[@BHox01]

@@rondo_with_it5946 That doesn't explain the Tebow loss in 2011 until the legendary 2018 collapse, which is more of what I was referring to when mention stacked rosters. And "scraping together winning seasons" is arguably bad for the team since they havent gone anywhere since 2016 and still haven't had any premium draft capital. Not to mention getting to 8-8 shouldn't ever be the goal unless maybe for one year if you haven't had one in a while.

[@dronestuff4]

Over .500 every season of his coaching career? Yeah, sure. As a Giants fan this comment is pure comedy. You clearly don't know ball

[@ross798]

When I was a young kid, in the 70's, I fell in love with the whole Steelers mentality. I mean, it was the steel town, the iron workers, the black and gold colors and practically the only thing pretty about the Steelers was Lynn Swan, it was the toothless Terry Bradshaw and Jack Lambert, Mean Joe Green, Jack Ham, L.C. Greenwood, Mel Blount, Mike Webster the hard working Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier, who was a rookie running back when he was drafted into the army, went to Vietnam, got shot in the left leg and then a grenade bounded off another solder, landing by Bleier, sending shrapnel into his right leg, told he would not play again, he went back to Pittsburgh for a successful career. These were tough, tough men, that defense in 1976 had five shutouts in 9 games where they allowed 28 points total in those games. Now, to watch men walk off the field as every other player and all the refs are chasing a fumble that was picked up by the man you are supposed to block? Full grown men use social media to ghost their own team? They look like whiny little babies even when they were winning.

[@YuriTarasov_]

Ship’s burning. Not sinking but it’s time to find some accountability in these players. If there’s no accountability for self, a team goal is not possible. It’s not hard to think of a team goal that can be accomplished. When the selfishness and lack of discipline is displayed on Sunday, it’s time to reevaluate your assets. This team has dragged its feet the past 4 years but we just have to be faithful to a bunch of players that don’t care about the crest they play for and the reputation it comes with. Sad

[@superbowlofselfabuse]

As a life long Steelers fan, we've been spoiled a lot in recent times, getting to enjoy 2 Super Bowls just a generation ago and (even though they were horribly wasted) the Killer B's were so, so fun. But...every organization gets down here and there. Pittsburgh isn't excluded. I think a lottttt of fair weather Pittsburgh fans need to come to terms with the fact that Pittsburgh's due some pain now. Life is cyclical. Bound to happen eventually.

[@innocentrage1]

This steeler team died when #36 retired. No more Bus or steel curtin defense. We are now a terrible towel.

[@chrisvincent7372]

They won a sb without him lol

[@bobbyraejohnson]

Oh shut up

[@marvincrowe2057]

We need the Power of Bill Cowher!

[@AttilatheThrilla]

Is Pat selling out more with these damn sleeves??

[@toogr8888]

This is the product of the Steelers offensive line being the softest group of 5 in the league. Mason Cole doesn’t hold himself accountable, seomalu was a waste of a FA pick up, Dan Moore hasn’t developed, jones is a rookie that just recently earned a starting spot and James Daniels isn’t pulling these guys together at all. Just a bad group

[@rawdragonz8429]

Seumalo has been playing like one of the best guards, and Broderick like you said is a rookie. All we need is another tackle and a center and we’ll be fine, the issue isn’t talent, it’s a lack of maturity and coaching ineptitude for the offense.

[@jamespierce8096]

I agree Suemalo has been doing great job ..I'm so use to us having a hall of Fame center

[@christophersmith8316]

Ben made them not need OL since he couldnt be tackled, and his passing made the old run game atrophy. Bu there arent any more Bens out there. Before Ben, it was the run game and defense that made the Steelers go, so WRs could not get too cocky about getting the ball.

[@NoahGreene-pp5wm]

Never been a better time to be a browns fan 🎉

[@benaiah93]

🤡

[@edwardbarnes75]

Interested stat...yesterday's Raiders game...The Raiders' two defensive touchdowns -- a 44-yard fumble return by defensive tackle John Jenkins and an acrobatic 16-yard pick-six by Jack Jones -- were their first pair in a game since 2006, when Nnamdi Asomugha and Chris Carr returned interceptions for scores against the Pittsburgh Steelers' Ben Roethlisberger....but somehow people blame Tomlin for the failures if players

[@Varzaak]

I don't even want to hear Pagano's mouth on what he thinks Ben should say or not say. We the fans already were thinking exactly what Ben was talking about. This attitude stuff where people are not running routes correctly or not trying to block has become so pervasive that its killing my love for the sport. Its easy to root for winning teams. But we fans stick around during the lean years if you try to do the best you can. The Steeler's offense certainly isnt capable of it. And its not all on the QB. Just because you were an HC someplace else doesn't make you an expert on The Steelers.

[@rickmiller2668]

I agree how did Pagano ever coach anything, now he's Pat's puppet sitting over there in his highchair

[@TBGames23BM]

BIG BEN SAVE US

[@innocentrage1]

Save us? Did you see him play the last 5 seasons before he left?

[@TBGames23BM]

@@innocentrage1 I mean as a coach, like oc

[@digadot]

Steelers fans care. Steelers fans who know don't leave when Steelers lose. Who remembers before the Steelers were the Steelers. One play changed it. Its painful to watch right now. I admit that without hesitation. I imagine it was painful to watch them before they became what the entire league knows them as. If you can't hang when it hurts, you don't belong in the room when it shines. So all the insults, all the vulgarity, all the immaturity just identifies you ain't a real Steeler. And I'm ok with that. Real Steeler fans don't dig that. The Steelers is a concept unlike any other team in the histories league. You get it or you don't. You know the history or you don't. And life goes on.

[@adenzien]

Great ending point

[@colinfagan4985]

Please get Ben in the studio for a show

[@Ashenblade]

Ben's just pissy the young guys wouldn't block the door for him like the old timers

[@guins99]

If Ben did something wrong why no charges? You repeating bs doesn’t make it not bs

[@oldbean7150]

I don’t know if I can trust a guy who can’t take no for a answer to talk about the “culture”

[@84knucks05]

Thank you!!

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

Oh I think he’d know best. I’d say that if he notices it then it must be terrible!

[@84knucks05]

@@joleaneshmoleane8358 I think someone missed the point

[@jesse548]

They still have the culture of cheap shots

[@puffycombs6531]

Felt like the Steelers have had their number, didn't have the faintest idea it was that lopsided though

[@rob5079]

Keep calling out Mike Tomlin past players...Love every second of it. He has killed this team year in and year out.

[@mind_haze2414]

Sure buddy bet you were doing backflips calling him a genius for trading AB lmao you’re a clown 🤡 sir

[@Ilovetrollin]

Wait On the dumpers fire you’ll be when he’s gone lmfaooo

[@kimblandino]

​@@Ilovetrollin Love to see Tomlin go to a poverty franchise and get exposed.

[@sirhumphreyappleby6498]

He’ll never take another NFL job. He’ll take a network job to protect his reputation. The man is a naked emperor and the world is finally waking up to that.

[@joegreezy]

I’m a Browns fan, happy to see this! Steelers are a great organization, they’ll be alright. They’re due for a few bad seasons, unless they draft poorly and make bad decisions! Go Browns!

[@troymann8892]

I'm a Browns fan. I hate the Steelers and they deserve what's coming to them. Maybe being a bottom feeder team for a couple of years will knock some sense into the fan base.

[@GregoryCunningham]

No, you’re a Steelers fan, nice try. No Browns fan would ever say the Steelers are a great organization.

[@jeffreyv8306]

My dad's a browns fan. I've watched him suffer for 25+ years (however long it's been since the Browns returned). Any time I'd poke fun at him or Cleveland, he'd always say, "You've never known the steelers as a bad team. At some point, their luck will catch up with them, and they'll be as bad as the Browns were." Well, he was right. Pittsburgh is overdue for a good 5-10 year slide as a bottom feeder of the league. And it looks like we're headed that direction

[@sozei]

How do you feel about Deshaun Watson? Worst contract in NFL history? 😂

[@coltenbeachel645]

Been to Pittsburgh lately? It’s not the same city anymore.

[@Z17xMachine]

We haven't witnessed Pittsburgh Steelers football for years.

[@nsaad3048]

Ben sometimes deludes himself. The culture isn't the problem. The Steelers don't go out and get actual coordinators, therefore left to whatever the talent can muster up. Which is sometimes a lot, but the QB position is still a big question mark so all of that is being exposed now. Tomlin has to show he's not too old to change his ways in this respect. Or he's gonna fizzle out over the next few years at best.

[@bralinjohnsonwright4156]

His last few years was the start of that

[@tylerwilson-fm4ej]

Pat I need that sweater

[@MercenaryTX]

There was a big gap between Bradshaw and Ben. Rod Woodson had to carry the team for defensive wins. Don’t throw it away for few years gap.