Benchmade 3V Bailout updated hardness edge retention testing. Is it up to the challenge now?

[@flipflat4814]

You're the MVP🏆 of the knife community, seriously thank you for your work sir 👍👍👍!

[@Outpost_76]

You're welcome and thank you.

[@flipflat4814]

@@Outpost_76 👍

[@jaystrongbow9435]

Hi Gerald, good to hear from you !! Benchmade M4 was an embarrassment and so is their 3v.

[@allthingsknives]

That’s really disappointing, to hear that about their 3v, thanks for putting this video keeping me entertained while I’m locked inside with Covid

[@BenoJ3000]

Rest up. Hope you feel better soon.

[@brandonroberts6815]

Sold both my bailouts new after your first test, Benchmade dropped the ball.

[@hobochris2936]

I bought a new 3v bailout about a month ago and it seems to be holding it pretty well. I use it mainly to break down boxes and scrap stickers, no warp and ive only had to use a strop on it.

[@isildurelendurion1822]

Sticking with my m4 bailout

[@thaknobodi]

Looks like my factory seconds Para 3 Maxamet with that warp.

[@profesorEDC]

OMG how did that make it past QC❗ Great vid as always G 👌 thank you for the effort 👍

[@donrichter3523]

Ugh, why go to all that trouble?? Just get a Bugout. The tanto blade is the reason for one, although I would go for the M4 upgrade.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

Its possible this one was one of the bad ones in every batch. The warp makes me think that. Maybe Stack metallurgy is having a hard time heat treating these in quantities. Maybe benchmade is back to melting edges when sharpening again.

[@ryangilbert3184]

Yeah..that blade swings more than playgrounds..I love the bailout In general though.

[@Outpost_76]

It's too bad, I like the design.

[@EastCoastMan603]

Have you been able to grab a new 3V bailout ?

[@poorboysedcandflashlights5934]

Any update on one that doesn’t have a regrind? I just bought the orange/blue 2023 shot show 3v bailout and this has me kinda curious lol

[@holdernewtshesrearin5471]

How does Spydercos 3V do? My TUFF seems to hold up quite well.

[@-trmxzer0-235]

The worst warped blade I've ever received from Benchmade the m4 bailout I received was close but not as bad as this one. Benchmade really needs step the CQI up seems like they are getting worse not better.

[@bullseyeike3070]

So I’ve been looking at the benchmade puukko or Leuku in 3v as a backpacking knife. Should I expect the same shoddy performance from these knives? I was turned to these knives for their light weight and 3v steel.

[@janjimpson240]

I'm also curious about this. Would love to see a future video testing the puukko or leuku

[@BenoJ3000]

I have a puukko available if wanted or needed for testing. First run. I can say that I was disappointed when I got it due to the grind and I have tried to use a fire steel on it and it deformed the spine noticably, unlike the garberg I have used many times. From what I understand the steel is soft on the first run puukkos. I got it so I could give it a good work over and still have some good edge retention. I would have sold it but I got it laser engraved. This was my first "mythical" Benchmade. I like the 945 I have but idk if I'll be buying Benchmade again. Kind of soured me.

[@BenoJ3000]

I can say that it will be mighty tough lol. If you get one over the other it should be the leuku. The puukko isn't worth it in 3v at that size if it is soft.

[@Outpost_76]

I'll see what I can do to get one to test. I'm sure they run the same protocol for those as the Bailout last I knew.

[@BenoJ3000]

Gerald, I think they switched the bailout to m4 because of the 3v debacle. Idk anything about heat treats but I believe 3v is difficult to heat treat effectively, as far as high volume production knives. Maybe some one else with more knowledge can chime in. I have a kizer mini critical in 3v that had major edge damage in use, even after sharpening the original factory edge. Fairly significant chips/rolls. I believe it's a bit soft

[@Outpost_76]

There is a good chance your Kizer is run soft. I have one in 10V I'm in the process of testing.

[@BenoJ3000]

@@Outpost_76 I bought a 4v sheepdog after I saw your tests. Glad I did! Performs and sharpened well. Look forward to the 10v test .

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

My 3V critical Mini gets so sharp and has lasted a long time. If it’s really soft it’s still pretty good.

[@glockgaston2922]

Wow really disappointing G!! Thanks for all your work testing and thanks for sharing brother 👊

[@ricksmith7232]

Would you buy the serrated M4 version?

[@littlewoody5539]

Good video .

[@Youtube-Censorship-Police]

benchmade still struggling with the qc, that warped blade is really nasty! they really need to up their game, every $50 chinese knife is doing better currently

[@edc4fun]

Ouch. You’re curiosity is my entertainment.. er, I mean education. I’d love to see the difference between the new and old.

[@Outpost_76]

The link to the first production run 3V Bailout test is in the description.

[@danielwasused]

awt archon scales ayyeeeee

[@matusknives]

It's kind of sad to see this. Reports like these keep me from buying a Benchmade (though some of the M4 seemed fine ... after 10+ edges ... sigh)

[@edsaban572]

What about the bugout S90v?

[@Outpost_76]

I haven't had one to test. I did test some other Benchmade S90V in previous videos.

[@joshuabriggs7114]

Gerald, it isn't clear to me if the blade warping was from the factory or subsequent to the regrind? In either case its unacceptable! I for one am less than impressed with BM's steel treatment especially given their price!

[@Outpost_76]

I'm going to say it's a BM issue. A new unmodified M4 Bailout I was shown also has a warped blade.

[@joshuabriggs7114]

@@Outpost_76 that's appaling given their price point!

[@-trmxzer0-235]

My m4 bailout is warped the same way just not as badly I say it's likely an issue with Benchmades CQI not doing there jobs effectively enough.

[@thedrmurchindise]

This is nothing short of disappointing. Benchmade is doing some fuck shit.

[@Outpost_76]

I expected it to do much better

[@dombond6515]

Thank God this isn't a Chinese blade! U would be shit outta luck if it was. Since benchmade has the best warrenty in the game its no prob send it in get free replacement!

[@-trmxzer0-235]

Not after the drop point regrind and the aftermarket scale swap the warranty is more than likely voided.

[@krustysurfer]

Half baked and underwhelming when you have Chinese D2 with similar cutting abilities....

[@Outpost_76]

It would seem even the newer ones just don't have a proper heat treat.

[@krustysurfer]

@@Outpost_76 it's too bad because the prices are going up as well

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

That is a pathetic example of a knife BM.

[@-trmxzer0-235]

I've got 2 more just like it 👍

[@isildurelendurion1822]

m4 bailout way better

[@isildurelendurion1822]

Benchmade jus seams to fuck up 3v. Their m4, other than being rust proe, is way better.

[@dark_gravity_edc]

You answered my question in another comment. How in Zeus's butthole could the release a warped blade? I'd guess, may be wrong, that BM overheated the blade during grinding. That could warp and destroy the heat treat. Thanks cuz I was wanting an improved/ new version. Not now.

[@Outpost_76]

I'd say they do pre ht grinding and that's what caused the warp. Especially since I've seen some others that way even in M4 Bailout.

[@michaell397]

@@Outpost_76 In truth, over heating in grinding does not warp a blade. In fact, it anneals it which in some cases would straighten it. For those that don't know V-3 is designed for toughness, Not edge retention. The M-4 is for edge retention. Different steels for different purposes. KnifeMaker