BEWARE of FAKE SPITFIRES and BONES BEARINGS!!!

Deals that seem too good to be true probably are! Product shortages and high prices have opportunists cranking out counterfeit skate goods.

[@AmB39]

“Pretty crumby people doing some lame things”. So Canadian. So relateable.

[@boreal8631]

We are too kind

[@wesktit5225]

You guys are way nicer than us and I’m from Minnesota the nicest state. Canada is way cooler than usa

[@boreal8631]

@@wesktit5225 Yessir. Canada gang. All the skaters here are the nicest people in the world

[@bladenskellett4726]

Nah if you live close to Toronto it's "you a waste yute buktee fuck you fham" 🤣

[@Minotauro_di_Chieti]

So chinese.

[@Mystninja]

Ben's hair cut is way to good to be true.

[@jinandjuic3]

I think its fake 😆

[@Antonio-bh3xv]

his hairline is nicer than mine and i’m 19

[@Mystninja]

@@jinandjuic3 I think it's a Alien Beaver sitting there controller he's brain. And that's why he's a great Carpenter.

[@tobimillan5883]

Its too good

[@bendegros]

I bought it on Alibaba

[@nickmccack]

Ngl id buy the knockoff spitfires if they were rebranded as "Shitfires".

[@bendegros]

😂 I would buy them too. Just to put on display

[@jouhajohnny]

Shitfires 😹😹😹

[@_Maxten]

Spitfire cheapshots are only $10 too

[@yevinsohn3402]

@@_Maxten but there not formula 4s

[@paoloaraldi]

@@yevinsohn3402 he is talking about bearings not wheels

[@62killab]

All of those grinds sounded great but you were right about the one being "the best". Very satisfying for my ear holes.

[@bendegros]

🙂

[@ronniecreager2585]

Nothing better than riding over bricks. Always make me think I’m in a skate video

[@boom6578]

video idea - build a complete from the bootleg parts and see how well or bad it skates

[@DFunct905]

Imagine if it was almost as good as the real.

[@S1eepM0de_Forever.]

Good idea!

[@mihajlomomcilovic3949]

Some spanish dude did that, he broke the "independent" truck in 2 days, he bought complete set from Aliexpress

[@_....J........................]

Always support our skater owned skate shops in the skate community! We take care of each other!

[@jgrullon32]

People do want to support their local skate shop but sometimes there's none near. My closest skate shop is like 30 minutes away pushing 40 with traffic.

[@proudtobestraight9053]

Boo hoo

[@MohaDou]

⁠@@jgrullon32I don’t have one in my whole country and you’re complaining about not having a skate shop in front of your house

[@brunoherrera7927]

The oldest skate shop here where I live got some rip-off Spitfire F4 last year at the peak of the pandemic... even the reputable skate shops can fall for this!

[@LUZ-zv6pq]

Yep, if someone rings them an says I got a load of surplus stock if you want it cheap they could easily be tempted and might not click that it could be fake..

[@Vaquero1858]

The one dislike is the person selling the fake wheels

[@parallelparkerrr]

@@TheePossumm its almost as if the vast majority skateboarders aren't old people and have a very miniscule chance of dying of the coronavirus. Just a thought

[@maga_skater4207]

@@TheePossumm did you get all your boosters?

[@Gameboy-Unboxings]

​@@maga_skater4207he's probably passed away by now 😆 that's why there's no reply.

[@seancrutcher525]

Killer content man. As a 32 year old skateboarder trying to learn new tricks I can relate to your videos.wish I was as comfortable on my board as you are

[@Fanaz10]

age has nothing to do with your skate ability, if anything makes you progress faster

[@seancrutcher525]

@Tendo Pain im not new i just never learned many trucks when I was younger.but overall I could really give a fuck less what YOU think

[@Gameboy-Unboxings]

​@@seancrutcher525you seem real pleasant. What a jerk for no reason..

[@jaankungrockman1633]

Fake Bones swiss print back on package “Pro choice since 1983” genuie Bones Swiss since 1981

[@JN-vi9iv]

The fakes say 1981 also

[@leredditcommander8208]

@@JN-vi9iv yeah they fixed that but every other mistake they made is still there

[@MrGeeMoney1983]

If I couldn't get to my local shop, I always shopped on CCS for almost 20 years. And since I moved to Atlanta and I really don't know the skate scene I've been ordering everything from CCS or Skate Warehouse.

[@vampiro1018]

Def recommend stratosphere skateshop

[@tamonekinebitan222]

@@vampiro1018 what do i do if my local sells these...

[@oldmanjolly]

I appreciate promoting the awareness of fake product out there. A few years ago, I intentionally bought a set of fake Bones Swiss out of curiosity. They weren’t bad on bigger wheels (60mm), however, on smaller street wheels, not so much. I also appreciate the raw trick progression footage. I was rooting you on, on every attempt!

[@someonelsy]

What's bad about them? Not spin long enough? Noisy? Or what happened?

[@sxndra.y543]

if u cant go to a skate shop, u are way better off going to somewhere like zumiez than getting them off amazon

[@sxndra.y543]

@Tendo Pain dude some people dont have skateshops near them and better skate than nothing

[@Muaz-dw6kt]

@@sxndra.y543 i only have decathlon 💀

[@sub2nddraw818]

This is why I don't go to my local. He even sells fake reds.

[@loveandnapalm]

what shop?

[@robertborden2666]

I think I got fakes too. They were not the special ones I was expecting

[@TheMlvswoll]

Love the PSA and the fact you couldn’t resist following up with some skating. Lol. You never disappoint Ben.

[@statneticz8681]

Dude thank you SO much for this! I paid 27$ for Bones Swiss bearings on EBay and Really thought nothing of it until you made this video. Went to check the sellers reviews and found out they were indeed selling fakes....luckily for me I haven’t even taken the clear plastic wrapping off of them so I can now get my money back~ You’re the man Ben!!!!

[@byageel]

You can get your money back from them either way. Notify the seller. It is likely they are aware that they are selling fakes and they will promptly refund your money.

[@sheaskateboarding]

Amazon really needs to start taking responsibility. There needs to be a better process, so people are not allowed to sell counterfeit goods.

[@LUZ-zv6pq]

Amazon wouldn't know any different.. it would be up to the likes of Bones and Spitfire to report the counterfeit goods to Amazon and/or prosecute the sellers. They should have a team for this.

[@jregulatori4672]

@@LUZ-zv6pq And it wouldn't change. The shady Chinese companies would create a new account and be back to flooding Amazon/ebay with the same fake goods within minutes.

[@LUZ-zv6pq]

@@jregulatori4672 I agree, it could be a never ending game of cat and mouse but it is up to them to pursue. I bought 200 hoverboards to sell a few years ago coming up to Christmas and every couple of days my add was removed because segway complained and various outlets did not check their claims first. The only mention of them in any of my adds was that we are in no way affiliated with segway llc and after a couple of weeks my add stood. The point is they were all over it, and if we had have broken any copyright laws they would have had us in court in a flash. It was actually quite impressive how on the ball they were. The likes of bones and spitfire etc make more than enough money to be able to put teams together for this, it's protecting their customers and protecting their brand. Even an add campaign to say buy local, buy genuine or whatever. Use a unique code on each packet, then verify legitimacy online? They could do all sorts of things but at the end of the day, they're doing nothing. Instead Mr Degros is over here informing people there are fakes out there..

[@Inkythegoat]

It’s a lot of fake stuff on Amazon, watch out for 3rd party sellers

[@Uけいすけ]

These products have been sold in Japan same price as real one on the Internet market.

[@louirauloj]

I love that papaw Ben warns us for scams in skateboarding goods, not only he reviews products but also takes care of his audience

[@skateshoprokas2309]

Friend, this happens because the Dlux distribution does not provide the ease of supplying the skate shops, it is difficult to find these products in countries, which makes many purchases in alexpress, and cheap sale of bones, it is good to let the parent distribution know that serve all the existing Skate Shops, now it is easy to obtain the store through social networks, greetings 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@Dieozam]

Good looking out. Thanks for showcasing this info! Also, now that Satori has revamped their wheels have you thought about doing reviews of them?

[@dejiita]

Thank you for bringing this to light someone needed to say it out loud

[@jorgealejandrorodriguezbri2418]

Shamely, some local skate shops buy this items for cheap to sell them like they are authentic :/

[@jacksonramsay1572]

I think my local does

[@Glipglop886]

I’m calling all my grinds doinkers now 😂

[@JonnyDIY]

What has this world come to? Knockoff skate stuff! This is horrible. I miss the days when it was all made in USA and Canada

[@Jack-xy4fy]

That's what happens when you vote for Joe biden

[@bandkidteo]

I hope this man lives an amazing life

[@_SuBtOtAl_]

I literally bought those exact radial slims with the snake on, if only this video came out a little earlier😔 they were £40 as well so not far off what they usually cost in the UK, so frustrating

[@vainex5450]

F

[@jrizk8938]

This is the perfect example of a Canadian rant. Obviously annoyed yet still very polite haha

[@patthesoundguy]

I would not trust fake wheels could get scary 😳. Where I have a small engine business I have a great relationship with one of my local industrial supply house, they sell bearings and all kinds of related items for industrial applications. I order my bearings from them for my skates and my scooters. They are very high quality and have been working extremely well. I actually set up my buddy when he had his skate shop in Halifax with that supplier and he sold a lot of those bearings when kids needed a couple bearings to get them going again or when they couldn't afford a new set of bones or other skate bearings. The generic stuff on Amazon is scary.

[@rslevi6904]

10:10 cab noseslide nollie heel was amazing! great vid as always ben loving the street footage, makes me want to go out and skate street

[@johnm3946]

Thanks again, always looking out for us. Getting counterfeit wheels would suck. Skating really good too, back 5-0's must run in the family.

[@consoul.34]

“I don’t feel like trying too hard today”... “I could probably back 180 nose grind this chunky ledge, if I try hard enough” haha. Gotta love it. Sometimes just getting out on your board is the only motivation you need.

[@samgamgee6508]

8:30 From now on, "SB" will stand for "Skateboard Batman."

[@Dav2112]

This shit happens in all of my hobbies, knock-off guitar strings, knock off FPV equipment and knock-off skateboard parts.

[@mygoldfishdrown5178]

One time I bought those really expensive bones bearings, but I starved to death before I could ride them.

[@daynmitchell7543]

For the last year I’ve only been riding soft wheels. I’m so hooked to them now.

[@jackstraw5527]

One time I was scrolling through Facebook and I saw a diy tutorial and it ended up being Ben doing the tutorial. And it was for like drywall patches or something, not skateboarding related at all.

[@bobburbanks7718]

You can get fake Indys off Ebay too. I don't think it helps that we've sent all our manufacturing abroad, makes it super easy for them to fake stuff.

[@jonathanmachado8506]

Dude it’s insane the shortage!! Luckily the store I work at have crazy amounts of spitfire. But they range 38-45 a set US.

[@sk84life80]

There's counterfeits for just about everything any more. Good warning and smart not to divulge the details that gave it away. Looks like UBC has some great skate spots. Most of my skating takes place on a campus close to me. I just figured out heelflips this week. Got a break in the snow and a day of sun to bring the temp up to about 35° and dry the sidewalks. I'm so excited because it clicked for whatever reason and I was able to repeat it. Down side is I learned which muscles it takes and walked like a Grandpa for a couple days, but the winter weather is giving me opportunity to recover. Best sk8 pain ever.

[@DonnieEls]

u got me addicted to the sound of copingless grinds on concrete lol

[@Mrmannycalvera]

Glad you did this video. Never buy from AliExpress they have only fake counterfeit Spitfire , Bones, and skatebord companies decks . Boycott that crap

[@didrik901]

Your videos are awesome man! Very good to create awareness around these scams. Love your skating too, very nice control and very pleasing to watch! You’re definetly one of my very favourite youtubers. Keep it up! Love from Norway

[@xX12VincEXx]

I actually looked up to buy one set of Spitfireweels of Aliexpress a few weeks ago. I was skeptically about this though. Fortunetaly some seller over there told me the truth after I asked about if he has 43mm, without even asking if there are real. After the first seller, I asked one other seller i contaced if the weels were original Spitfire. And he responeds with "They are very good clone ones". So I can confirm what Ben is saying :D. But Some People want to make money on the amazon Maketplace... Thanks for making the information-video :)

[@the6ig6adwolf]

43mm is ridiculous.

[@Ben6Strings]

I wouldn't buy anything at all from AliExpress

[@xX12VincEXx]

@@the6ig6adwolf Why do you think so? Too small, too large?

[@gabriellaforce2041]

I was thinking the same about the Bones Swiss. Amazon is so lame to sale this. But some well known skateshop was selling some bad wheels for the price of pre- pandemic SpitFire F4. I saw some Girl skateboards wheels for 50$ can, but in fact it’s the soft cheap wheels they put on them kids completes. It’s so ridiculous.

[@BLVCKSEA]

Whao whao whao...wait..WHAT?! They're making fake Spitfire Wheels? And Bones?!?!

[@benjaminfitzgerald7839]

Totally agree about a shortage of them in skateshops , I bought a set of 52mm classics & because of their rarity at present they're charging $80 aus, which I was fine with . Keep well Ben.

[@alonzomatthew2376]

Amazon is probably the worst place to get any skateboard items. Some people were selling a single pack of Diamond hardware for like $22 usd! They sell it at shops for $5!

[@ThanatosWings]

Thank you. I almost bought a set of wheels and 4 sets of bearings off this guy for a questionable price. But I decided not to cause I thought they might be stolen and didn't want to support that. Appreciate the video.

[@LuisMendez-rd1cw]

Hello! Thank you very much for the video, I bought some spitfires from an online store and I was very worried, but the ones I bought are original. One question, what size wheels do you use?

[@liam_dawson]

I rolled up to ubc that same day they rented out the skatepark. It was the most uncalled for situation.

[@abdulazizkabli692]

would you make us a video about your worst skate injuries, it would be really nice to know what was going on behind the scenes! btw great video man, stay safe!

[@denyel_]

I wonder if they made higher quality the sales still wouldnt be enough to cover the manufacturing... oh and the ridiculous profit margin they get from ripping off the brand and consumers might be too good.

[@CristianMonforte]

Hey Ben, thanks for your videos and good vibes. I’m a beginner. Something I really like from your videos is that you grind everything you see, any curb or ledge is a good spot. But how do you decide if it can be grinded or not? Do you always put some wax? I saw you on this video doing some checks before grinding something, maybe you could give us some tips about that.

[@mickeyabbot5851]

Love the content. I would really appreciate a quick review of "huh" bearings. I know a couple of people who use them and their boards seem to roll really well they're very affordable but don't seem to have quite the same endorsement as bones Reds but they're in the same price range and I thought it would be a cool video for a comparison

[@mikegeary8623]

This dude. Just seems to nice. I bet he is cool AF to hang with. And he is a way better skater then he gets credit for. Dude shreds. Guess the old saying about how nice Canadians are is true.

[@user-tf3jf2fi6d]

In Cad Amazon, I saw a skateboard brand that was closing its stores, and there boards were only 50$ canadian. I already bought 2 baords from them. They were crazy cheap.

[@Koda11711]

Thanks for the video. What kind of trucks you riding at the moment?

[@bendegros]

Venture 5.6 raw

[@Koda11711]

@@bendegros thank you

[@Skate247allday123]

Interesting how you posted this because I recently made an article on slap about Fake Bones Swiss Bearings.

[@albertn9549]

Thanks ben, this is true. There's a lot of cheap items out there. Check the reviews first.

[@aayanthekid2091]

Hey Ben, I've bought a pair of spitfire ishod wair chain pros a couple weeks ago and when they cam they looked good they came in the proper packaging and came with a sticker but what started my suspension is that when i first tried them it was pretty smooth but not as smoot as a I thought but when i went on concrete I've noticed that the wheels are peeling in a way I've skidded my wheels like the littlest way ever and then I notice that well its peeling a little similar to like when you are rubbing grip gum on your grip and the graphics was going away pretty fast when I grinded on a curb for like 3 secs and I just wanted to know what you think about it, oh and I forgot to write that i bought it from amazon and it arrived 2 weeks later and I'm only a beginner so idk much

[@schonzbonz]

Smacked my shin on coping😥 watching all your vids for the next week 😂

[@sethallison5682]

Thanks for the heads up re: the wheels and bearings. I could honestly imagine you saved a lot of people some trouble. I had a similar experience with car parts recently. Be careful if you ever find a deal that’s too good to be true on Denso brand oxygen sensors lol.

[@sethallison5682]

Also that sunset looks very similar to the ones we get down here in Arizona 🙏

[@PipsClips]

Powell said they were identical, just not marketed/made officially.

[@artiebucco9660]

Can the same thing be said about blanks sold on Amazon or eBay? Just random (probably non skaters) benefiting from kids on a budget as well...

[@upisarhemaa3201]

wow is it that non wintery there, so much snow here in finland, i'm gonna have to wait at least 2 months still to even have a change to skate... don't even have a parking hall here where I live.... your channel keeps up my motivation and thoughts on skating. :D

[@bendegros]

Most of canada is very snowy. The coast is much more temperate. We don't get snow very often. Just endless rain.

[@upisarhemaa3201]

@@bendegros that’s interesting how much the ocean does. Does it get as warm in the coast as like more in to the land in summer?

[@bendegros]

@@upisarhemaa3201 Nope. It stays cooler here in the summer. really nice actually

[@aporkaasmodian3273]

Can you compare a "fake" and a skate shop distributed spitfire 4mula4 and a bones swiss? I really interested about what's the difference between "same" wheel and wheel and "same" bearing and bearing.

[@emanueltomasini9947]

On holiday in Vietnam I bought a "the north face" backback for €20, worth €120. Because the company produces in Vietnam. I bought Bones reds in local shop, made in china printed on them. Bought a creature board at another local store, made in china too. Sourcing out production to china to increase profit seems legit for companies. Selling b-ware for half price or less seem legit for asian production facilities.

[@joshuakastler7837]

My brother and I usually get each other a small thing for Christmas and this year I told him that I wanted to try conical fulls. He got them for me, clearly online, and something seems a little off about them. I don't blame him because he doesn't skate, but I hate to think those scammers got his money. It could all be in my head though and the weirdness could be because I always skate skinny wheels.

[@bendegros]

If they are legit they should still feel great. I love conical full. They are a little clunky but one of the smoothest rides out there.

[@joshuakastler7837]

@@bendegros I'm only one session in on them and clunky is the exact feeling I got. Super smooth though so I'm sure they're the real deal, the lack of traditional spitfire stripes on the side threw me a bit too. Now that I've got my preferred board size/truck combo sorted out I guess it's time to mess with wheels a bit more.

[@vperkv6554]

7:23 , Ben, try using Concrete RUB. THEY ARE 15.00 AT HOME DEPOT. THEY WORK

[@32srt32]

Just contact the manufacturer and ask if the store is an authentic dealer. Bones has a search bar you just put in the shop to see.

[@dneck]

darn Ben makes grinds and slides look SOOOO easy. working on it but I keep getting stuck on 5050s. Board just stops. I'm 260 lbs so maybe that's part of it lol

[@hksolventless9260]

Once in a while Zumiez will have random pro models or the two tone formula 4's for like 27 bucks. That's really the cheapest I've ever seen them go for even before the pandemic

[@briantkho]

Wait why am i in the background of this video LMAOO

[@APYanke]

How can we be sure that other skateshops didn't get swindled by the guy you talked to on the phone? I'm glad you were able to pick up on his deceit, but I could see other shops innocently striking a deal, and before you know it they're selling fake bearings and wheels.

[@TJV650]

That last mossy green ledge you skate looks sooo much fun

[@4dlvnn]

yup, was gonna buy bones reds off amazon until i saw the reviews. So many ppl said they weren’t authentic. Ended up just buying them on skate warehouse.

[@JN-vi9iv]

Tons of them from China on DHgate , AliExpress, Alibaba

[@phoenixazronquillo3765]

Dude how could we find out if theyre knockoffs? Anyway to email you? Im a beginner skater and i got a minilogo that had "made in china" stickers on it after the ad i got it from said "made in the usa with real canadian rock hard maple" I bought my last REAL brand deck at cowtown this past wednesday after rolling my ankle coming out of a 360 flip on the china board and tbh it rides waaayyy better, i replaced my trucks with indy 149s too.

[@oldbonz]

I'm generally pretty happy with just a doinker myself 😉😃😆😂

[@Gmaaa]

The spitfire wheel set in Brazil costs 65 Coca Cola of 2 liters.

[@acgwestsidesb6410]

Its f4 wheels? What pricing for Bones STF and Ricta top line wheels as Speedrings not something cheap as sparx

[@Gmaaa]

@@acgwestsidesb6410 63 Coca Cola. And speedrings reds bones gold is 40 Coca Cola.

[@acgwestsidesb6410]

@@Gmaaa Ricta Speedrings 40 coca cola 2L?

[@acgwestsidesb6410]

@@Gmaaa i heard 1kg bananas good comprasion for pricing in different countrys. So any foreigner can calculate products by quantity of bananas(in kg)

[@acgwestsidesb6410]

For example now 1kg bananas around 1usd=80 rubles. Spitfire F4 set around MSRP 6000 rubles(75usd*1kg of bananas = around 75kg of bananas (another way to calculate 6000rub:80rub=75). White rice pricing per 1kg will work as calculate comprasion too

[@davidwellman5221]

Thanks Ben your awesome. Your videos are what made me skate again. I really hope that boy of yours is taking notes because this channel and the just keep skating channel are just too good to not carry on for as long as possible. Shoot maybe even Vancouver Carpenter, if he ends up a carpenter that is.

[@derekmccray9332]

Wait, Bruce Wayne skates? He's even cooler now!! lol

[@tommyaddams6620]

always soo good ben loving the spots at ubc much respect my dude

[@fenderman1984]

I did get some 99 du formula fours at the Vans store for much cheaper than usual this week, about $33 American.

[@barrythornton9947]

Theyre over $40 anyway when you add shipping $13.94 and taxes , so its not even an issue. Bones Swiss to one side for a minute, the brands I see on here are the ones who have moved their manufacturing to China. So how fake is fake if the real thing is made next door ?

[@robertborden2666]

I bought a set of Reds this summer but was underwhelmed and can definitely say they’re a lot slower than reputable skate shop-purchased Bronsons on my son’s board. I got my Reds through TGM Skateboards, an Amazon seller. They’re out of business now I think. I’ll have to get a new set of real Reds and give them another try. Bearings are the most important part of the skateboard experience I’m starting to understand.

[@vorpalblades]

TGM is still in business and does not sell counterfeit items.

[@SantinoDeluxe]

so much logic... Boardin Peterson!

[@thesuperstomper4776]

There are two local shops in Minnesota. One shop sells Bones Swissfor $65 and the other sells them for $50. Any idea why the price is so different? They are well known in Minneapolis/Minnesota so I know they’re authentic.

[@driftlessskater5475]

Are you skating a Business and Company board?

[@zinephoto]

i buy first bones bearings like 8 years ago on aliexpress and i have them more then 6 years before they were completely gone in one week ( and i skate a lot ). the secong one i bought them one year ago, and they are still rolling good :)

[@lazyk1751]

Just another reason to support your local shop!

[@ivankornuta1921]

This guy looks like he's been running on fake boards the whole time 😄

[@iamnoone9757]

Ive seen some of these on ebay. I immediately new they were fake because it was a slim radial branding on a classic shape.

[@davidvanvliet193]

Ben doing the skate gods work. Support your local skateshop.

[@rodrigozendejas4139]

What trucks have you been skating recently Ben

[@PHeMoX]

Currently Spitfire F4 latest and greatest wheels (new 97a ones) cost around 92 Canadian Dollars here (60 euros), because supply is simply super low (and it's new stuff, but still. Normal price would be closer to 75 Canadian Dollars, 50 euros). If anyone wants to get Bones bearings on the cheap, be wise and just get the Mini Logo bearings instead. They are pretty much on par. In fact, I'm not a believer in spending anything over 20 bucks for bearings anyway. Yes, there are a lot of third class brands of bearings you should probably never pick up, but stuff like Independent gp-s bearings or Mini Logo bearings are excellent options on the cheap. In reality though, getting Spitfire F4 Full Conicals 99a or 101a and Bones Reds is _extremely worth the money_ . I would not recommend getting the Bones Swiss. Those bearings break too, meaning you kind of spend too much for stuff that just gets destroyed anyway.

[@vperkv6554]

Cant go wrong with BONE REDS, 23.00

[@inGraffitiWetrust]

Thanks for the headsup glad i just buy my stuff from a skatestore

[@TheBigSquidAZ]

You're hair is looking sharp in the intro