I turned 30 last summer. Discovered both of these guys' channels right at the beginning of the lockdown in 2020 when i moved back in with family and got back into skating. So thankful i did after not being on a board for 7+ years, it keeps me sane, happy, and healthy!
@TheDailyGnarticle Жыл бұрын
I had the same thing happen, and I’m better now than when I was a teenager. So happy I picked it back up
@yelramyelram Жыл бұрын
same. so glad I did, I could listen to these guys to no end. great guys, good content
@itsadoozyskateboarding5323 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never flat-spotted a formula 4. I’m 200 pounds and have been riding them for 3-4 years now!
@ZackDowdy Жыл бұрын
Enjoy videos with you and Dan
@nero16ify Жыл бұрын
as an over 30 skateboarder this stuff is the kind of content I dig. Your the man Ben 🙌
@jordanbrorby8494 Жыл бұрын
Funny, as a 34 year old skateboarder this is the kind of content where I wonder why anybody would ever give a crap about this trivial stuff
@Rbsp28back Жыл бұрын
❤🇫🇷
@jensenacklese3049 Жыл бұрын
38 here, I think I found new friends 😂
@trevorschauwecker Жыл бұрын
This is really high level advice that may not regularly accesible to people living in smaller populations with less skaters. Great video and review!
@craigoswald9083 Жыл бұрын
I love the information. I followed Dan is well and at 55 there's always some good info. Ride until you drop 🤘
@stephenbasu1548 Жыл бұрын
That was a great,authentic ,real conversation About skating. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@BobSk8s Жыл бұрын
Dan's set up looks like if you flipped it over and shook it a bunch of hair and crumbs would fall out
@exomoneylabel Жыл бұрын
and pennies too
@tima8049 Жыл бұрын
It probably smells peculiar too.
@BobSk8s Жыл бұрын
@@tima8049 smells damp
@HankHillOfficial Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@johnmeehan7884 Жыл бұрын
Ew
@jimgrude Жыл бұрын
Dan's right on.F4's definitely flatspot and wear down quicker. STF don't, but also don't feel as good.
@Stug138 Жыл бұрын
Very informative, Thanks Ben & Dan.
@LoomisPeabody3 Жыл бұрын
Yuup, front toe side for me too. Also, I'm 45 now and skate almost every day. You two dudes are two of my favorite skaters and content creators. Please never stop!
@Johnbetty46 Жыл бұрын
Toe side front wheel is always first to cone and I’d say 99% with confidence it’s from turning as my level of skill is not on par with either of your good selves so the turning must be causing this. Another great detailed video too 👌 love these 👊
@tcsk20 Жыл бұрын
Nearly on 100k well deserved Ben
@Unlockingparadoxes Жыл бұрын
Great video and energy and vibes and articulation.
@ToxicGreen357 Жыл бұрын
Ben, Dan, and Vic... That'd be a dream sesh for me to be on lol. Raddest dudes 👊
@50yearoldskater Жыл бұрын
Hey Ben. Started in the 70's but been on board non stop since 1983, so 40 years straight of skating. Front toe side for me as well on the wheel cone. I rotate them by eyeing the wear, so either diagonal or just straight switching the front and back depending and start at a 54mm. Currently riding Dragons 54MM X 32MM
@timriecken5453 Жыл бұрын
As a nearly 20 year golf pro and 14 of those have been a master fitter.... I loved this vid. ❤️ Dan is awesome and always enjoy his vids. Thanks for this ☺️
@FrogeFella Жыл бұрын
I have been heavily digging all of the content you made while in Cali. Great stuff!
@DarmokAtTanagra Жыл бұрын
I skate Acid Chem Co REM formula too and I really like them. One thing that was different about them is that the bearings are a VERY tight fit, they're definitely not going to get tweaked by lateral pressure/impact
Great video guys! I follow both of you and I always learn something each video I watch! I have been a Powell Peralta guy for apprx. 30 years.
@stevenmadethis2383 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, I'm 31 and subbed to both of you, soooo yeah
@ejlopez6637 Жыл бұрын
Tic tacs are what wear out the toe side front wheel. Even if you ride loose trucks, you’re bound to do little tic tacs when doing little turns. It’s usually the back ones. Because your front foot naturally dips towards the toe when you turn, you usually drag your front wheels even if it’s just for a fraction of a second before you put your wheels back down.
@Morbidia Жыл бұрын
The Magicians setup is amazing looks great. Dan has such amazing board control.
@Unlockingparadoxes Жыл бұрын
Much love and respect to you and your channel Ben.
@NotMe42554 Жыл бұрын
Angle gauge is also great for measuring angle of pop :) since that ones magnetic it sticks to the bolts and then you can tip the board
@JohnWBlair828 ай бұрын
Dan's sweater is on point.
@booth403 Жыл бұрын
Talking about getting the bearings out of a tight wheel, I've always just used the truck, screws the threads up after a few times doing it but at that point you're getting ready to swap out your trucks anyways
@MrArkBrian Жыл бұрын
Tom Penny in his prime rode 7.5” decks with 8” axle Indy’s, so by those standards 8.5” deck on 9” trucks should even be fine.
@jessidupuis7500 Жыл бұрын
ive got some nice santa cruze deck rails that are very rounded and the ends curve away from your wheels for more clearance. love flight decks i have both of andys, nice setup dan! love watching u guys sk8
@AESTHE1TE Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this video for long enough thank you!
@octaviobarrera6418 Жыл бұрын
The collab i been waiting for aha
@matthewzito5952 Жыл бұрын
Ya for sure .. you two rock
@Bikecampcook Жыл бұрын
Loved this great to see any skaters thinking on setup Regards from the UK
@diplenski Жыл бұрын
i'm regular footed and also cone out front toe-side wheel first/most
@idmhead0160 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@jumboshirmp Жыл бұрын
Ben, same: my front toe-side wheel cones first and I have no idea why. I ride almost exclusively transition
@kokote1847 Жыл бұрын
I always cone my front toe wheel more and I'm pretty sure it's because I slide my wheels when I quick turn from fakie to forward, on flat and transition
@williamtomisser8921 Жыл бұрын
I have never seen the pivot fakie late regular before. Super sick!
@robertblackmore703 Жыл бұрын
Same- front toe. It’s just from riding flat ground. I think my normal weight distribution is a bit more toe side than heel, and my front truck is my turning truck so it’s a bit looser and takes more weight. Also, if I’m turning around it’s easier to turn backside than front, so I do it more often.
@robertojuarez9785 Жыл бұрын
I love this park, I skated this stage with the big green trash can when I was a teenager, I love the feeling of being there, legendary stage in long Beach. Now I'm almost 40 and I just want to go back to get the feeling of being there, even if I just do a olie down the stage
@brandonplante5570 Жыл бұрын
My most worn wheel is always front toe side and I do believe it’s from fakie kick turns or slappy crooked grids on curbs. If the curb is low enough, that wheel ever so sightly drags on the ground.
@azazelreficulmefistofelicu7158 Жыл бұрын
159 on a 8.5 board with "inverted" kingpins, my madness approves.
@Exploitedyouth2004 Жыл бұрын
Never flat spotted F4s but I have flat spotted Acid REMS before funny enough. Front toe side wheel cones out for me first as well.
@Unlockingparadoxes Жыл бұрын
You guys are both legendary 💯🙏🛹
@GorillaBiscuitz8 ай бұрын
Front toe side wheel cones most for me too. I know I'm a heavy toe side turner and I take more right turns. It's hard to take sharp left turns without slamming. Also, I've never flat spotted a Spitfire, but they definitely wear down fast-ish.
@fatdadskatesbad Жыл бұрын
Dan is probably one of my favorite skaters to watch skate. He has such a wild original slappy style and absolutely shreds.
@daanzen Жыл бұрын
I must say, your laugh at 7:18 was beautiful!
@Mclovinthedank Жыл бұрын
F4 flat spotted for me within the first week. I like to skate fast so I just slid extra to even them out. and then they ended up being my favorite wheel because of the shape and I felt they slid better than STFs.
@nathanvaltierra8707 Жыл бұрын
What shape?? I've never flatspoted any f4 spitfires and I've have like 5 sets
@XIIVXVII Жыл бұрын
Ben with the Slappy connoisseur himself.
@rulehardgarage9740 Жыл бұрын
I like Powell shapes so I picked up a 243 flight deck and the shape is glorious and I love everything about the decks but man the fiberglass shards from skating crusty Midwest spots is brutal. I just can't do it. I'm actually having a lot of fun skating weird shaped decks like the Welcome Darklord right now. My back toe side wears out but I do a ton of shuvits varial flips, BS 180, shuvit revert etc.. so for me it adds up why.
@pneuma6421 Жыл бұрын
Dude i thought i was the only one! That fiberglass shit that stabs ur thumbs is so goddam annoying!
@MarkPuke13 Жыл бұрын
I love you guys both!! Fucking siiiick❤
@markdearlove8634 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed every second
@anhiirr Жыл бұрын
same thing here with the wheel wear, conical fulls help wear less but you still have to rotate the front toe wheel with others to keep a set going when they are radial full or classic shape for me or it totally cones out.
@brycekeith5653 Жыл бұрын
My front toe side wheel also is always the first to cone. I assume just from a ridiculous amount of fakie pivots. Every time I don’t land a trick I usually step back on, roll away switch and then do a fakie pivot to regular before trying again.
@burger1113 Жыл бұрын
Soooooo rad to see lol it's like you have your favorite dc hero randomly show up on the comic book of your favorite marvel hero. Given that you are a huge fan of both, of course.
@papichulocod Жыл бұрын
do a review pf the stage 4s!!!!
@idmhead0160 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, WTF. Ben slacking on the most earth shattering news in decades
@diddymelone2265 Жыл бұрын
F4s never flatspotted for me and I do Powerslide all the time. Didnt try stf. Other wheels definetely flatspot for me. Impressed that the dragons did not flatspot either. Probably because they Slide so nicely on rough ground.
@3_MiL Жыл бұрын
same! front toe side wheel for sure. then back toe side :p
@Yoa-cc7bo Жыл бұрын
really good duo right here, woulda loved to see a game of skate with u two
@burna803 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know what woodshop made the alien workshop boards when they prdoduced the mind field decks? Loved the shape and feel of the Arto Saari 8.5
@skwibblez9239 Жыл бұрын
I think PS Stix, but I might be wrong
@imnotarob0t1984 Жыл бұрын
The Etnies Arto's were incredible skate shoes as well
@kryptichands968 Жыл бұрын
I skate spitfire f4's , conical full, theyre the best wheel Ive ever rode, and I finally switched to them from the classics, they havent flatspoted at all its been 2 years since, also they have a distinctive bark when you nose, tail, blunt ect.
@commandZee Жыл бұрын
Dan with Ben, a pleasant surprise!
@jaybird634 Жыл бұрын
Ben , please do a review on the Slappy hollows . Thanks . God bless brother !it's
@johnm3946 Жыл бұрын
Now I want to get a tape measure and nerd out on my board.
@smeegain3657 Жыл бұрын
Cool - really I like the setup talk.
@poopoofuhqueue2389 Жыл бұрын
i have powell ribs and also hacked off the tapered edges because i like my rail a bit further out and my wheels kept biting
@MrBrain05 Жыл бұрын
It’s always front toe side wheel for me and it’s from nose slides for me 🤙🏻
@PHeMoX Жыл бұрын
The big nose is why I like the Andy Anderson flight deck (the first one) quite a lot. The downside is how it is a fairly big board of course, but the nose is less of a problem and way more of an advantage to me.
@SpiritsandNature Жыл бұрын
front toeside wheel goes early due to turning pressure from your front foot
@changoslaboratory6584 Жыл бұрын
My front toe side wheel cones a lot and I have to agree with Dan I think it’s from whipping fakie
@crazyjakie9972 Жыл бұрын
crossover of the century
@milesallen7339 Жыл бұрын
Thanks vic
@apineda716 Жыл бұрын
I'm on team, take wheel off with the truck axle! Works everything haha
@sebastiangronkvist3897 Жыл бұрын
Front toeside for me aswell. It's always been that way from doing reverts after I've landed fakie.
@MrBrandon48180 Жыл бұрын
I use the axle of the truck to pop the bearings out of wheels, easy peasy
@acgwestsidesb6410 Жыл бұрын
Its too easy you need brutal screwdriver battle with old bearings
@acgwestsidesb6410 Жыл бұрын
After battle you will told everyone how smart and intellegent you are
@Makabert.Abylon Жыл бұрын
Ben said his front toe side wheel are the smallest one. Its the same for me, and toe side wheels in general takes more pressure for me. I would guess its just how you skate, or if your board wants to go a bit left as a regular skater you might put a bit more pressure toe side high up on the board when you push especially 🤷🏻♂️ Anyone else who get one smaller wheel after a while?
@mercyme3400 Жыл бұрын
If you stomp with huge energy that can brake your regular wooden board using flight board will bounce the energy back to you, in this case i believe this can kill your feet/legs, but if you use the regular woooden deck it will absorb the impact to the ground, just a wild thought lol
@kunuelo5576 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@bakedbeings Жыл бұрын
Dan spending the whole paycheck on a fresh fit for Papa Ben's channel 👌 Those 2.5 subs just clocked over to 3.
@JonnyDIY Жыл бұрын
Dont think i ever flat spotted a set of wheels that didn't even out in all my years. Hmm 🤔
@danielandersson4179 Жыл бұрын
Flight 8.5" shapes is 249 or 244 = more round. Wheelbase 14.38.
@zackxdig Жыл бұрын
Front toe side for me, it's from kick turns on banks, similar to what Dan said.
@yabo7106 Жыл бұрын
I have one of your old Canadian skate shops decks you named the Voldemort deck. Before I got the deck I was skating my old one every day trying to learn the Ollie and messed up my knees. I never got a chance to skate it because I was afraid to hurt my knees even more. I'm probably gonna start skating again soon. Wish me luck
@versnellingspookie Жыл бұрын
What exactly hurts in your knees? I was watching a Chad Caruso video yesterday, and he said that as he's now pushing across america (3000 miles in total), and by day 6 his knee issues somewhat lessened (he said he re-tore his meniscus 6 months ago). Also, i have hypermobile knees and have kept off skating for the longest time because im still a bit heavy at 240 ish pounds), but i feel like i've been missing out on knee strenthening excersises, and thus missed out on ways to strenthen my body. Maybe you could start doing excersises to strentgthen whatever issue it is that you're having too?
@miclgael Жыл бұрын
Damn Ben, with all the stats!
@JC-es3rs Жыл бұрын
Hey Ben looking at thunder trucks to buy what do you recommend in thunders …hollow lights? Also where is the best place in Canada to order these
@hou5eheadjason Жыл бұрын
I had bought 51mm f4 spitfire classics , not even a month old I hit a pebble coming down my driveway and they flatspotted , on street was fine but at the park sounds like a machine gun riding , I had these bones stf 51mm 103 a classic shape and I honestly like them more I dont think ill go back to spitfire , there was an adjustment and at first I thought they we're weird feeling but once broken in they ride so well
@acgwestsidesb6410 Жыл бұрын
Classic shape F4 101A /99a especially 99a super easy to flatspot. Especially brand new. And conical full or OG shape way more flatspot resistant in 101a. Anyway stf 103a wearing down super slow in wide shapes vs F4
@hou5eheadjason Жыл бұрын
@@acgwestsidesb6410 you like bones too ?
@acgwestsidesb6410 Жыл бұрын
@@hou5eheadjason mostly yes but stf 103a didn't like stomp to stop poweslides too as many other wheels. Anyway never any issues in durability in skateparks with 103a STF
@ryanhingorani4019 Жыл бұрын
Please do more collabs with Dan!
@scottmccrimmon1 Жыл бұрын
Front toe side and rear heel side wear out fast for me - I’ve got a fortnightly wheel rotation madness thing going to keep them even lol
@solidbluebrian Жыл бұрын
Same
@transferz Жыл бұрын
These Cali videos are most enjoyable. Hope you go back soon and share the experience w/us like you did for this trip. Damn Gifted Hater Loves you. Maybe he could visit you and do some more collab videos,or do this style of video w/ppl. up in your hometown? Thanks Ben you e brought us lots of enjoyment in this series.
@galvanizedgnome Жыл бұрын
Ben is a cool dude
@swires1 Жыл бұрын
Can you bring Dan Corrigan and Gifted Hater in the next one
@bananaclipper7692 Жыл бұрын
boxing match
@dadboard Жыл бұрын
@@bananaclipper7692 that would be the most 7th grade haymaker contest to ever go down 😂
@SabrinaMorris Жыл бұрын
Yep. Front toe wheel always is worn down first. That's why rotating the wheels makes them last longer. I'm surprise more skaters don't do this or talk about it in vids.
@justinmusicandskateboardin9282 Жыл бұрын
I powerslide to stop hundreds of times a day on formula 4's and I've never rotated my wheels or gotten a flatspot afaik. Its usually on smooth skatepark ground though, if I'm skating rough ground I go for my dragon wheels setup
@ignatrudakovsky5610 Жыл бұрын
my front toe sides wheel also wears out quickly. I think it's because of tic-tacs and kickturns
@bitterXboifren Жыл бұрын
I'm plotting on 🔥F4s 58mm 97a because the dude who works at my indoor let me use his and they didn't seem to collect dust as bad as my 95a slimeballs or my 103a ojs
@andrewpegg Жыл бұрын
Front toe side wheel is always the one that cones for me. I think it's from turning backside at the end of a line to go back the other way. It's not trick related for me.
@handywithshovels Жыл бұрын
Front wheel toe-side gets the most wear for me. Slappy feebles
@DanableLector Жыл бұрын
I have the same exact issue with wear on my front toe-side wheel. I assume it’s from turning on trucks that are a little tighter, which might increase the pressure vs looser trucks. Dunno 🤷♂️
@kylemichealmurray10 ай бұрын
love you always wear white tees, Costco kirkland?
@TheAnimeist Жыл бұрын
Ben, Front toe side for me wears out first. Dan, Can you comment on any adjustments you make when your wheels are wider than your board? For me, they have to be flush or inside a bit. Otherwise I run over my toe. I can't get the effect of this out of my head LOL.