AVL Tutorial (1) - Basics, Program Structure

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Benjamin Kelm

Benjamin Kelm

4 жыл бұрын

This AVL Tutorial - Part 1 - will teach you the basics and program structure of the Athena Vortex Lattice Code, which is very useful for quick and reliable Aerodynamic Analysis, Trim Calculation, Dynamic Stability Calculation.
I used it extensively in my Bachelor Thesis and further works on the battery-electric touring motorglider FVA 30 (www.fva.rwth-aachen.de/), as a research assistant at the Flight Systems Dynamics Institute of RWTH university (www.fsd.rwth-aachen.de/) and for personal UAV and model aircraft design.
AVL was written by Mark Drela and Harold Youngren (Massachusetts Institute of Technology).
"AVL is a program for the aerodynamic and flight-dynamic analysis of rigid aircraft
of arbitrary configuration. It employs an extended vortex lattice model for
the lifting surfaces, together with a slender-body model for fuselages and nacelles.
General nonlinear flight states can be specified. The flight dynamic analysis
combines a full linearization of the aerodynamic model about any flight state,
together with specified mass properties."
More information on web.mit.edu/drela/Public/web/avl/

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@fabioli96
@fabioli96 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Video, thanks! I hope to see new AVL video tutorial in future :)
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm currently uploading the next one ;)
@ricokonratt
@ricokonratt 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thx for the work.
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm 2 жыл бұрын
Always Rico ;) Looking forward to see your wing take off!
@razorx6472
@razorx6472 Жыл бұрын
15:30 Giving Elevator Deflection 16:45 Saving Stability Derivatives to .txt file 17:45 Saving the Plots
@ronaldpandolfi1264
@ronaldpandolfi1264 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video. I would like to see one on using AVL for Blended Wing Body aircraft.
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Try it out yourself, should be possible with what you'll learn in this series
@ishitmehta3057
@ishitmehta3057 2 жыл бұрын
Such an amzing tutorial! It's the only one that actually shows how to run and navigate your way throught the program. Just one thing - Once i open the geometry plot, I am not able to change any angles or views if i want to look at the model differently. Any I enter the K command for keystroke, but then i get a message saying the window size has changed and neither the plot window nor the cmnd prompt accept any commands.
@nawfhou9223
@nawfhou9223 Жыл бұрын
I am having the same problems, i can follow the video except for when it comes to the geometry window. Once its opened, I cant use any command regardless of what AVL window i click on. The program essentially freezes and I have to close and re open.
@nawfhou9223
@nawfhou9223 Жыл бұрын
actually, the issue occurs once i press K, If i dont press K, i can still make adjustments and ad load, but once i try to move the geo, it freezes
@danieleaccomazzo2796
@danieleaccomazzo2796 Жыл бұрын
@@nawfhou9223 I had the same problem, then I tried with an older version (AVL 3.36 executable for Windows) and that works properly. Hope it helps!
@captainlambo3443
@captainlambo3443 Жыл бұрын
@@nawfhou9223 HI, have you solved the problem? i'm haveing the same. and i could not fix it even have tried an older version.
@1125MG
@1125MG Жыл бұрын
I solved this problem. If you compile directly according to the manual of the zip file, you can use the keystroke mode
@alialemi9574
@alialemi9574 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Benjamin for your nice video, I watched them and they are really useful, I have a question about loading distribution, is it possible to export loading distribution?I mean exporting pressure distribution on the wing or body for all coordinate points, depending on x, y and z. I tried FS or FE but I thinks they are not what I want. Thanks a lot. Ali
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ali, if you use FE, AVL will spit out the element forces, including the dCp (Pressure coefficient) for every single calculation point on the lattice.
@ragingcanadian8987
@ragingcanadian8987 Жыл бұрын
Hello Benjamin! I have thoroughly been enjoying watching your tutorial videos as they have been extremely straight forward and informative. I was curious if i wanted to save .ps files in a specific folder, what would i type in AVL so it directs the .ps download into that folder on windows?
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm Жыл бұрын
In windows you just do relative paths... where you execute your .exe, there it will also spit the output
@Chloe-o8j
@Chloe-o8j 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video, it’s very helpful! I am wondering why is it the case that my Oswald efficiency is sometimes larger than 1 and sometimes it is negative? And as I increase the aspect ratio, the Oswald efficiency somehow decreases, which doesn’t make much sense. On the other hand, for a rectangular wing, avl somehow predicts the Oswald efficiency to be 0.9933 and it seems too high, I am wondering how accurate is the avl Oswald prediction or if I potentially did something wrong? Thank you so much!
@hedleyfurio
@hedleyfurio 3 жыл бұрын
do you know where i can find 'carbon dragon.avl' as used by drela in his mit aerodynamics youtube course
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure where this is file can be found. Try searching it in the example folders of the AVL program
@turddisturb
@turddisturb 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. I am using a mac too but the problem is that I can't open the file avl3.35. It says that there is no application set to open the file. How do you open it?
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm 4 жыл бұрын
There's a ready built mac version of AVL - avl335_MacOSX.zip Just be sure to install X11 (see also XWindows or XQuartz)
@MrWANTED44
@MrWANTED44 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ben! How can I use it for a free-to-rotate wing airplane?
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm Жыл бұрын
Well, principally yes, but you would have to calculate all of the operation points yourself. You can't add "free rotating" bodies
@mariopegani
@mariopegani Жыл бұрын
Very useful content. How can I store the surface force results of more than one case in the same text file?
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm Жыл бұрын
I would't know - Why not just have multiple files in a specific folder?
@aluminiumjay9271
@aluminiumjay9271 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Benjamin. Are you the Benjamin who used to participate in some rcgroups discussions on airfoil design. ? (Hand launch and DS) . If so I'd love to see some videos from you on airfoil design. Thanks heaps anyway for the great job you have done here and your consideration.
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, thanks for the comment. That have must been another Benjamin. But I'd love to do something on airfoils soon (I'm actually planning to do a "Drela-Program" video line, including XFOIL, QPROP or XROTOR etc. What would you like to learn on airfoil design?
@aluminiumjay9271
@aluminiumjay9271 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminKelm Hi Ben, thanks for the reply. A few cases on inverse design would be great. Ideally along with proper analysis behind the moves, meaning, with small explanation on the trend we are anticipating before the move. Also if you have access to it, a couple of videos on MSES will be priceless because there are non in the public domain. Thanks
@xcvb2347
@xcvb2347 7 ай бұрын
How can i save just my CL distribution? I mean the values of CL in function of y
@farehebahrami
@farehebahrami Жыл бұрын
How can i have Dutch roll, short phugiod and poles in trim condition???
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm Жыл бұрын
Just go into the .MODE menue and do your calculation there.
@cvarun9055
@cvarun9055 Жыл бұрын
AVL isn't giving me the loading and the trefftz plane after I put in all the commands, any idea where it might be going wrong?
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm Жыл бұрын
You would have to specify your setup. Generally, try to work on either windows or Unix based systems supported for the application
@arnavketkar2104
@arnavketkar2104 4 жыл бұрын
What did you use to open the plot.ps file?
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm 4 жыл бұрын
In Mac you can just use the Preview Application to view these *Postscript* files On Windows there are other programs you need to install to view these - GIMP for example
@arnavketkar2104
@arnavketkar2104 4 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminKelm thanks a lot
@arnavketkar2104
@arnavketkar2104 4 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminKelm also can you make a video on how to do dynamic stability analysis using AVL please?
@shibaowang5016
@shibaowang5016 Жыл бұрын
Hi, could you share the Flight vehicle dynamics, Thanks!
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm Жыл бұрын
No, sorry, please purchase that yourself
@SpaceCowboy1301
@SpaceCowboy1301 Жыл бұрын
can i use that for a formula 1 car? thanks for the video
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm Жыл бұрын
Not really made for that. In F1 DRAG is your main concern - where here you want to know the lift distribution.
@akarshshetty9262
@akarshshetty9262 3 жыл бұрын
What application do you use to start the AVl application.... I'm unable to find it😅
@travelvlogs0511
@travelvlogs0511 3 жыл бұрын
Do you find any software to start avl
@Fabian-is3uf
@Fabian-is3uf 2 жыл бұрын
same! what did you do to solve the problem?
@kiliang49
@kiliang49 2 жыл бұрын
since the file is named avl3.35 it can be that your computer interprets the .35 as a file extension. Rename it to "avl335" and try again :)
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply. Depending on your system (here, Mac) you might need to compile it beforehand into machine code. Then launch it over the Command Line Tool (Shell). For windows and Mac there are pre-compiled versions available on the MIT AVL site.
@enzo_wl
@enzo_wl 4 жыл бұрын
no para today?????
@BenjaminKelm
@BenjaminKelm 4 жыл бұрын
Not today, but I have a lot of material. I hope I can find the time soon ;)
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