Lift misconceptions 3 - The dumbing down of society

[@SPS8elevatorsoflakecounty]

As a lift/elevator technician said on Reddit: "The elevator industry: where the customer is always wrong."

[@gr3yhem]

Also, the last time a elevator fell was like 83 years ago so we’re fine.

[@SPS8elevatorsoflakecounty]

@Hayes Ian I must be dory because I don’t remember asking

[@lzh4950]

@@gr3yhem The news in my area reported of a lift that decapitated a passenger as it suddenly went downwards as she was entering it, & I recall it was found that somehow oil was found on the brakes, possibly causing them to fail

[@gr3yhem]

@@lzh4950 goddamn

[@Themusiic09]

@@lzh4950 That was probably sabotaged,

[@connectingwings7212]

Last week, when I was riding our EcoDisc at school, a cleaning woman entered the lift and said to me that if I ride the lift too much the cables will rip of and then the lift will stop and the police come. (I almost facepalmed right in front of her, especially because she knows I'm in the ninth grade [if she just wanted to make me afraid])

[@ReeceL101]

That is complete bullshit! Do a Safety Break and show them the truth about the resilient of the cables!

[@connectingwings7212]

@@ReeceL101 Ik, but it was an EcoDisc like I said which locks the doors.

[@ReeceL101]

@@connectingwings7212 Push hard on the lift doors then!

[@connectingwings7212]

@@ReeceL101 It doesn't / cannot open then (in my knowledge). I tried this on many different EcoDiscs / KONE lifts before and it didn't do anything. For comparison I tried this on an 2002s OTIS and I could do a safety break very easy. I also tried it successfully on a Schindler. But it never worked out with a KONE lift...

[@ReeceL101]

@@connectingwings7212 Not all Ecodiscs are safety breakable. Mine at college is safety breakable.

[@edmundfisher4951]

Please do more of this format of video, perhaps it would be good for when you are not in the mood to go out and film stuff? Maybe you could look at some industry news or analyse past accidents while recording the screen and doing a commentary!

[@linuxthemoon]

Really this is a good video, laughing at "y'all" is always good

[@KinsonStudio]

Beno you are certainly an elevator expert!

[@harleelang4907]

Yeah, he is!

[@xpyc-topic5317]

Kinson what are you doing here??

[@padsterdaawesomedude6253]

@@harleelang4907 Actually, BENO is a boy, not a girl. So can you change the She to a he?

[@harleelang4907]

@@padsterdaawesomedude6253 Sure! it was probably a mistype.

[@padsterdaawesomedude6253]

@@harleelang4907 okay

[@LouisOnAir]

You and Slazo need to lead a crusade against Bright Side!

[@bigbazzaRUFC]

Jarvis are good thi

[@qeelevators2960]

Yes

[@cat1554]

BABABA, BABABABUHHHHH

[@DieselDucy]

The media is terrible.

[@thefaroesegamer4585]

I just watched a grown man complain about 11 minutes straight... and I enjoyed every second of it. Great vid lol, you sparked a wierd fascination/interest for elevators in me lol.

[@rieon-plumbingfan]

I haven’t watched your video’s in a while, Good to be back :D

[@ReeceL101]

You should also do a Lift Misconceptions video on Safety Breaks!

[@duhkjhwifyyhed]

To be fair making a lift emergency brake in any form will obviously wear out the motors faster than if it was not used that harsh.

[@ReeceL101]

@@duhkjhwifyyhed On cheaply made lifts, this can happen I.e. Generics.

[@duhkjhwifyyhed]

@@ReeceL101 actually in any lifts It's probably more apparent in cheaper and lower quality lifts. That's obvious. But that's not to say that safety breaking is good for your lift (at least emergency stopping)

[@ReeceL101]

@@duhkjhwifyyhed You wont stop me doing it.

[@duhkjhwifyyhed]

@@ReeceL101 I won't.

[@rs_young8836]

I hate how my school teachers tell students that lifts free fall because this girl who sits next to me says that if there’s a fault the lift will fall and it took me 1 hour to tell her they don’t.

[@RMDaye]

"I can do safetybreak " 😂😂😂😂😂

[@edgarmartinez7371]

I can do safety-break (brake). Oh, my goodness.

[@LiftMaster8365WGuy]

10:24 this guy has a great sense of humor LOL

[@elco_os9355]

I live in a flat with a unstable lift. I have experienced the 'free fall' for two times now. The first time it just went into failure mode while going up on full speed. So the brakes engaged and it felt like it did fall down a bit, while it in fact only stopped. The second time i got stuck was because it overtraveled the ground floor at full speed, so it again tripped the safety brakes and it felt like it has collapsed into the pit but in fact didn't. However, the real thing that worried me was the fact that the alarm button didn't work and i didn't bring my phone.

[@777guy5]

Bro, that is an elevator waiting to kill

[@thefatcontroller4094]

Guy: I have 10000000000 IQ Also guy: lifts free fall downwards

[@tanchoonnee]

Nnnnooooo

[@lukasegeling5205]

The trains I commute with also have beam sensors and nudge mode, which behave much like they would on a lift. Though instead of being triggered after a certain amount of time, the nudge mode activates on all open doors when the train is ready to depart. The doors on buses and trams in Zurich don't nudge, but they beep when they are held open after the driver prepares to leave.

[@lzh4950]

The heavy rail in my country now all run on CBTC, which do indeed send the doors into nudge mode after a fixed duration that I guess is hard-coded into the signalling system's program code for each different station i.e. the doors will stop moving but not reopen when they hit an obstruction when closing, & I don't think any one has to check that no one is in the way or have to press any button to close the doors. Also heard the Alstom Metropolis trains we have allow its doors to be opened up to 5cm even when the train is moving, to allowed anything caught in the doors e.g. clothing to be freed

[@palms4708]

LIFTS

[@trainmtachilenorman8833]

@@Shibe-mx3lc Co up call the chill church not lifg

[@trainmtachilenorman8833]

@@Shibe-mx3lc Co up call the chill church not lifg

[@gordonfreeman9641]

beno for british pm

[@milkandduckrailway323]

Ban all generics.

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

Milk and Duck gaming Lol HE WILL do that first

[@thefatcontroller4094]

6:57 That person is trying to sound smart

[@dykodesigns]

This sort of “accident” has happened in the netherlands quite a few times with elderly people and dog leashes. Often (or perhaps in all cases) the dog did not survive this as they where chocked by their own leash. In one case it resulted in a casualty to an elderly woman who was standing outside the trying to rescue the dog by pulling the doors. As the lift was moving the leash got caught behind the the door rollers and unlocked them. The lift had already moved quite a distance so when the woman had opened the doors, she fell foreward into the shaft. Since a few years the put warning stickers in some lifts to inform people to keep the leash as short as possible and not loose sight of the dog. As in all of these cases the owner of the dog was distracted and either the dog got in the lift and the owner didn’t or vice versa and got separated. Then when the doors close, the leash sticks through the narrow gap and at some point it results in dead dog. The beam sensors have a lot of difficulty sensing these thing objects. Drawstrings from clothing or backpacks are also troublesome in this case. I think a 3D sensor could improve the situation. Mitsubitshi uses them on their upmarket models.

[@joaquingomezullrich878]

Thats why you should always have an emergency stop button, i hate how in some lift there is no mean of instantly stoppingbthe lift from the inside or its locked behind a keyswitch

[@lzh4950]

Similar accidents happened in Singapore too ~2016 but the lifts involved were built in the 90s & only had door bumpers plus a single laser beam ~1' above the ground, the former which won't detect the dog leash as it's too thin & soft & could wrap around it, still allowing the doors to fully close & the safety to connect. The latter meanwhile is too low to detect the leash. It's from the 21st century onwards when lifts were fitted with full-height infrared door sensors instead (which like the laser beam wouldn't close the door @ all in the 1st place if any obstruction is detected, unlike bumpers that have to close on the obstruction to detect it & thus be triggered to reopen the door), though public housing lifts typically now have both sensors & bumpers. Tragically in 2014 some security guards failed to switch the fire lift they were in to firemen mode when riding it to investigate a fire alarm upstairs, as the fire turned out to be in the lobby itself in 1 of the upstairs floors, with its smoke blowing immediately into the lift when it opened. The doors couldn't be closed as being not in firemen mode, the infrared sensors were not deactivated & mistook the smoke as an obstruction (though another theory is that the fire's heat expanded the doors until they warped & got stuck)

[@LiftyGamez]

Fujitec logic is kinda weird though. When in nudge mode call buttons won't work, if you press the bumper it will work(but activating sensors don't). But if you press door open it will open, but if you let go halfway it will close.

[@msjacksshipsadventures8382]

Hi this is good go to Exeter they got good lifts in the RD&E

[@blue.light.fazbear]

Also, nudge mode is one thing I have also thought about. When I’ve been talking to people about nudge mode, a common question I get is whether it force closes or not. I once activated nudge mode on a Stannah and it literally just shut down but luckily after pressing 1 and leaving it for a bit it worked again. I hate how a lot of cheaper lifts just stop so easily like that

[@edgarmartinez7371]

If the 'door open' button is held for any more than 30 seconds after nudge mode activates, then the elevator is taken out of service (yielding a fault called 'Door Close Time Out')

[@nelsonahlvik6650]

@@edgarmartinez7371 Not kone lifts

[@TheDragonFire123]

@@edgarmartinez7371 Door open should not override nudge mode but sometimes it does.

[@crazydogeROBLOXBuildingandGame]

I think nudge mode should of never been a feature of lifts... what’s it really meant to do apart from get the lift moving again if somethings obstructing the doors, after watching this video I think it’s safe to say just wait out side the lift rather than putting it into nudge mode or just use priority service if you have access to it.

[@duhkjhwifyyhed]

Nudge mode shouldn't have been a feature but it's added because people are asses

[@SnipCola28]

If there is no nudge mode, you could just leave the Doors open forever, thats not an good idea

[@twistedwhiskers8776]

On some elevators if you hold door open it will override lunch mode and the doors will stop if the sensor is active I've seen this on a newer elevator in New York it's a nodus it was probably installed in like 2020

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

Who feels so savage beno telling the truth LOL

[@wisteela]

This is a great series. Could you do a video analysing some of the lift accidents?

[@t3224.elevators_nz]

A lot of lifts in NZ have a sign saying “Don’t hold the lift doors open or the lift will break down.” I suspected it was due to the fact that nudge mode buzzers sound like a lift malfunction, but I wasn’t really willing to risk anything.

[@williamhuang8309]

As an Aucklander, I have never seen those signs.

[@t3224.elevators_nz]

Well, there’s one up in Manukau: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn7LiqGan7OofZY

[@lzh4950]

In my country apartment renovation contractors have been reported to hold the doors by placing obstructions in the doorway e.g. cardboard, but sometimes they end up pushing the doors out of alignment, causing them to jam in the future. The newest public housing blocks' lifts now have "door hold" buttons though

[@rassel2000]

Bright Side is also on the German KZbin. But there it is called "Sonnenseite" (translated Sunsite). And they are also posting clickbait videos... Actually the exact same videos as on the English channel

[@hoixthegreat8359]

Probably just a rubbish translation of bright side - Sonne is obviously sun but it is similar to bright, and seite can mean side

[@Loosetile2]

Now you are talking proper sense. You really are. Perhaps it's time for you to consider online political commentary with perhaps a sister channel.

[@ScottySullivanYT]

Someone has safetybroke one of the elevators at my local mall. What happened (I don't know if this counts as safetybreaking) was some guy wanted to get in the elevator, but the doors we're closing and he didnt put his foot in the inner doors beam sensors' line of sight. So the outer doors got detached from the inner doors and the elevator wouldnt move. I have also done this on a few elevators in my area on purpose. (Please let me know if this counts as safetybreaking)

[@benolifts]

Safety didn't connect, so it can't be said as breaking safety.

[@vbbox9902]

I remember when i was little (loved elevators and i still love)i watched that video and never wanted to be in a elevator,now i know that it is a lie thanks

[@hypexans5308]

@beno u are a man full of reason and wisdom Btw been watching you sence 2016, keep it up

[@pineappleroad]

8:51 I must have found the only lifts in the UK which re-open the doors when something physically stops them from closing in nudge mode (what happens, is the doors re-open and then immediately start closing again, I found this out when I saw a student exit the lift when it had gone into nudge mode, they came into contact with the door and it immediately re-opened, and then immediately started closing again)

[@jackhewitt7902]

Well I learned something today I didn’t know what nudge mode was until now

[@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL]

i've seen videos of some lifts where if it's on nudge but something is still in the way of the doors, the doors stop until the obstruction is removed then continue closing. Perhaps that should be a requirement to make nudge mode safer, along with ridges on the inside doors as well as the shaft doors

[@birdnest17]

Yay a video that is interesting

[@kdmq]

A guy from work told me he saw one guy weighing 550 lbs jumping in a 550 lb capacity elevator on a construction site and he tripped the governor (didn't even break the cables, just swayed the car). Apparently he kept jumping after he got stuck and the car would slide down 1 foot or so every time he jumped. Even though what he did was very stupid and very dangerous, and he would have fallen downwards, there still was no free-fall.

[@williamhuang8309]

He either tripped overload protection or made the lift suddenly accelerate when moving, tripping the overspeed governor.

[@brocklievsay8262]

one time when I was little I stuck my finger right in the way of the inner door as it was closing, thinking that the sensor would detect it, but it was too little too late, and the inner door pinched my finger and the lift started to move and didn't release my finger until I got to the floor. It really didn't feel very good at all.

[@TechNerdNolan]

Just saw that video yesterday!

[@redx8436]

this guy hit the nail on the head with how bull sh*t our media is!

[@NaylenGamingTV]

Days ago the lift in Turkey Club Alpina Hotel Lifts Once I was in the lift when the lift Going down to 0 the lift opened between floors on floor 2 luckly I Didn’t get stuck 😱

[@RamClaw]

Please make more of these!!!

[@Bombiedude.]

And I also dont like people that are too scared to put their hand in the doors because they think the doors will just close and chop off their hand like oh my god thats the whole reason the beam sensors and safety bumpers were put in and even if those didnt work the doors cant physically build enough strength to chop a hand off the door motor is just not strong enough

[@qeelevators2960]

I agree. IM SICK OF THIS!!!

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

My Mitsubishi closes the door way slower in nudge mode, and if you hold the bumpers it will still remain open, but the optical sensor will ignore..

[@rainirodriguez2931]

Oh my God i just watched that video a few days ago

[@rainirodriguez2931]

@Milexie Three pardon?

[@Bombiedude.]

Oh and recently I found this not very new thing but its just as common where people are thinking that an elevator/lift could just shoot off with the doors open and they could get their legs or head chopped off it honestly drives me nuts how dumb people that use machinery like this are like if I hear someone say this directly infront of me even just one time Id make them just take the stairs

[@renny2012]

CGTN always puts random music in the background so we cannot hear any sound (nudge mode)

[@Mike-jx2uj]

Very informative Beno

[@marijn29m37]

Hello , from the coaster community , we know your pain , sadly

[@tortozza]

Loving this series

[@PrestissimoMasterStation]

FEVER!!!!!

[@randplay]

And on top of that, they own 5 Minute crafts which could be my most HATED channel in my life! They (BRIGHT SIDE) own like over 15 or 20 channels and they don't care! They own 5MC, 5MCGirls, 5MCKids, 5MCTurkey, ACTUALLY HAPPENED, 7-SECOND RIDDLES, BRIGHT SIDE Turkey, 5MCSpanish, 5MCMen and a LOT more! I live in turkey so we mostly see the turkish channels. But thing I hate the most is that one of their partner channels "ACTUALLY HAPPENED" keeps on popping up in my recommendations even though I HAVE NOT WATCHED THEM EVEN ONCE! "One of your videos that you showed now popped up in my suggestions tab. I am not lying. I am seeing it as i'm editing and typing this comment." Sorry for the very long comment. I keep on doing this!

[@lyekl78]

The elevator have only 0.01 that can free fall (my thinks)

[@Finley_Stuff]

Even if the lift somehow fell down it would of fell much faster than it did in the 1st video

[@ElevationStationProductions]

I hate when people say “the elevator fell”

[@DieselDucy]

Elevation Station Productions yeah exactly elevators don’t fall.

[@trainluvr]

Oh god the end of the video best eva

[@williamhuang8309]

I once put a Shindler lift in nudge and the lift started beeping it's head off.

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

7:14 BENO in my Mitsubishi The close button LIGHTS UP BUT IF WE STILL HOLD THE OPEN BUTTON FROM THE INSIDE OF THE LIFT IT STAYS OPEN BUT IGNORES ANY SENSOR OR HOLDING THE BUTTON FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THE LIFT.. 8:50 If you put your foot in my lift it jams for a second and fully opens the door. BUT THEN it takes AGES after that to close... like 30 seconds.... because the motor will be like 10x slower.... Lol conclusion Mitsubishi are the best

[@nelsonahlvik6650]

Could you make a part 4, 𝓹𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓼𝓮?

[@araregoodguy]

I don't know anything about lifts but I know Beno does so I trust Beno, naughty kid but smart kid.

[@GraingerElectrical]

Please could you do a video on the Brightside video

[@blue.light.fazbear]

Bright side must die i hate them because they lie all of the time about all sorts of stuff

[@chr0mep0p]

ok now this is epic

[@PrestissimoMasterStation]

CONGRATULATIONS

[@any123-og]

Some elevator enthusiasts have rode elevators in China an they were perfectly fine

[@grantrennie]

Thanks for the great videos 👍

[@smoothflying]

Basically I hear the nudge mode sound on my gen 2 in my apartment building every day at least once

[@ex5138]

It's the same as the Dover buzz.

[@najlaallawati7232]

I know this video is serious but beno in the last scene was haliourious

[@Dave4000]

I've seen "lift hack" videos which claim that, by holding certain buttons in the lift, you can make the lift ignore calls from other floors, so you can keep moving non-stop. I wonder if that's true?

[@benolifts]

It only works on a certain very simple PLC logic from the 1980s, that is very uncommon nowadays

[@megalifts]

@@benolifts Some soviet lifts have a button for that and anyone can press it and go non-stop.

[@williamhuang8309]

Priority service?

[@lzh4950]

To save money newer high-rise public housing in my country have some of their high-rise express lifts double-up as firemen lifts, so they have doors on every floor, but those on express/skipped floors are openable only in firemen mode, unless for some Mitsubishi Electric lifts when 1 of those floors is the nearest floor to where the lift currently is when you cancel all hall calls (meanwhile some other lifts won't let you cancel all calls though & require at least 1 floor to be selected)

[@josephstalin8961]

BRIGHT SIDE 😷🌴🌴🍂🍂🍂🍂🌴🍂🍂🍂🍂

[@maxischew514]

Honesty your more likely to die by slipping in the toilet than in a lift accident.

[@arcro1641]

Lmao just watched that video 🤣

[@cherrychen7582]

Beno

[@cheikhdiouf5049]

The news tell lies because of a nudge mode the lift stop at the 12th floor

[@TechnokidYT]

After watching this (original) this video not yours but the original was fake as shit the thing NEVER fell it descend and stopped at normal Descending speed? Love ur channel Beno!

[@imstupidbut]

how does one man know so much about elevators

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

Well, he likes

[@williamhuang8309]

Looks like an ecodisc

[@VerlorenMaster]

OSCAR OIDA REPORTING

[@tonyanderson1759]

I watched bright side

[@jerry3306]

Thanks for telling us this the people get millions of likes and views over some lie smh.

[@victorliu1240]

I broke my screwdriver trying to safety break a lift like this ;(

[@noxious_nights]

Okay but if it didn't freefall how the fuck did the umbrella go up Oh wait because it was called to a lower floor.

[@michelletorres4653]

OSCAR OIDA, NAKATUTOK, BEYNTEKWATRO ORAS!

[@johndufton9686]

The best BS is jumping lol.

[@kiyan_69]

i've watched this before

[@pashwesty3313]

So what is the actual point of nudge mode?

[@benolifts]

To tell people off for keeping the doors open for too long. It is also used to allow the doors to close if the beams fail, but a lift should be fixed straight away if this happens and not left in this state.

[@pashwesty3313]

@@benolifts ahh so it's basically to keep the lift moving quickly and not allowing people to hold them up. I work at Cambridge University hospital (where you once visited) and the one set of lifts (kone I think) give an announcement "please remove obstruction from the door" but you need a bit of power behind you to stop them closing, I know some of the smaller cleaners physically can't stop them closing! Thanks for the reply

[@daredevil3744]

The point for nudge mode is so that the lift does not stay on 1 floor when it needs to leave.

[@MichelleTorres-wi5ch]

Pero, eto ang tingnan ninyo! Kung kanina iika-ika ang lalake, paglabas, bitbit ang mga nakaw na gamit, aba'y, AKALAIN MONG, *BIGLANG NAKATAKBO, MAY HIMALA!!!!!* Ayon kay Kap, alam NA, modus na ito!

[@peterdeutscher1442]

He got big thinking are doing is!!! 😧

[@elirussell5940]

Ray mak comments shit on most videos

[@therealgriffithsvlogs1010]

6:59 this person has ruined SpongeBob squarepants for me because they have a SpongeBob profile pic

[@cizib1442]

Man take a joke the guy literally said the elevator is made in china just because of a 100 year old ongoing joke what the fuck

[@blue.light.fazbear]

When I see one of those videos, I just want to throw up. Everything is soooo fake

[@Fardzilla]

Fortnite! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@milkandduckrailway323]

George Orwell

[@Fardzilla]

gondamnit why was i like this

[@PrestissimoMasterStation]

*FEVER!!!!!*

[@metro_ken]

Like my new profile pic??

[@jackholman17]

no