Benoit Roberge : Walk the Line - the fifth estate

[@Jakal-pw8yq]

I've been a biker my entire life, I'm in my sixties now and ride purely for pleasure. I lived in Oakland California in the 1960s and became a member of the Gypsy Jokers. From what I saw while I was in that club, it was mostly about riding and running speed throughout the Oakland and San Francisco area. Speed was our coffee and we used to use it and ride 4 hours on end. I never saw any of the hardcore crimes, but when one of the sergeants was tasked with killing a rival biker and was bragging about it, I had had enough. I moved out of the area and left no forwarding address, and left it at that. The sergeant was eventually and charged with murder. Then the charges were changed to justifiable homicide and he was set free. I don't know about anybody else, but I immediately knew that somebody on the Oakland homicide unit was in the pocket of the Joker's. It didn't surprise me at all because I knew that there were cops on the payroll of the Joker's for years.

[@pobunjenika7228]

Thanks for sharing your experience of being a part of the Gypsy Jokers & leaving (good move). I lived in Copenhagen Denmark from 1994-2002. During that time there was a brutal, deadly biker war between the Hell's Angels & the Bandidos, very similar to the violence portrayed in this documentary. Bikers being shot in broad daylight on the streets of Denmark, the Bandidos firing a shoulder held rocket into the Hell's Angels Copenhagen city centre club house. It was all about territory. Eventually the H.A & the Bandidos agreed to carve up the nationwide territory & everything returned to business as usual. There's never been a documentary made about the Danish biker wars which lasted several years. Most people outside of Denmark don't even know about it. I moved to South East Asia after leaving Denmark & spent the next several years travelling & chilling out before eventually settling down in Portugal. Good times 🙂

[@omahabred9466]

@@pobunjenika7228 wow, I would never have associated Denmark with biker gangs had you not narrated this story.

[@andrewsmith7115]

@@pobunjenika7228 There is one very good documentary on the Scandinavian Biker war by A&E but it’s hard to find.

[@Iswhatitisssss]

@@pobunjenika7228 if you don’t mind me asking, what is it you do for a living - which allows you to settle in such places ?

[@TheEsjie]

@@pobunjenika7228 there’s a documentary on KZbin now about the Nordic/ European biker war, just search it up

[@jenn6194]

Whether you’re a corrupt cop or a gang member, it’s all about power, greed and a lack of conscience. No concept of common decency or thought for the people who just want a safe environment for their loved ones. Thugs and criminals, although, given the choice, I’d rather be imprisoned as a gang member than a crooked cop.

[@calbrush6654]

“The line between good and evil runs through every human heart”

[@fuckyoujewlube5555]

there is no good. just evil and more evil. if you think there's good - you live a delusion.

[@kendall3833]

Thin line between saved and unsaved peace.

[@annalisavajda252]

Cliche. Not everyone is a dirty cop endangering lives refusing to do their jobs properly.

[@FukaiKokoro]

That guy has zero right to talk about illegal or immoral. Wako situation was both illegal and immoral.

[@bodhi8297]

Way more horrific than anything bikers do. They don’t burn kids alive

[@avamasquerade]

I wonder if they'll ever admit that there's a possibility that these cops weren't plants in the hell's angels, but were hell's angels plants in the police force. Probably not though cause how embarrassing would that be?

[@MtnTow]

There was papers here and there describing plans to do that but nothing concrete that ive ever heard of.

[@robgav6754]

LMAO... That never even crossed my mind Ava Masquerade! Now that is certainly thinking outside of the box, and definitely a very reasonable possibility!! Ever thought of being a Lawyer?

[@somethingaboutbeauty8245]

@@robgav6754 agreed.

[@brandonduhon3136]

Think about what your saying ... Hell's Angel's Guys ... wouldn't inheritably be good candidates

[@bctad4562]

!!! The Departed

[@DatruthBtoldy-do6bl]

The Waco Texas standoff isn’t something this “negotiator should be bragging about!

[@mrveritas700]

POINT BLANK MURDER OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

[@alexisgordon2759]

I agree

[@SENCE302]

Agreed wholeheartedly dude basically refused a search warrant and they burned that place to the ground out of control federal government

[@blazed1945]

Straight slaughter

[@russhartman4927]

That and Ruby Ridge were the opening acts of the Clinton crime cabal 93. He and Janet Reno should still be in jail today. That is how corrupt our system is top to bottom.

[@kaigottwald2195]

Sometimes the difference between a good man and a bad one is just that: The good man is tempted, but resists; the bad man is tempted and yields. Temptation is in both of them. The place of darkness in all our hearts.

[@dougrobbins5367]

Thanks for pointing out the obvious

[@kabeyz]

But sometimes the bad man repents pays his debt and turns his life around. Only God knows the nature of one's heart or soul. One mistake as grave as it appears to be doesn't define the nature of one's heart or soul. That's how I see it. I think that the bad people are those who never apologize or don't have any remorse for their wrongdoings.

[@dougrobbins5367]

@@kabeyz Good points, but what was it that led you to a belief in God? If God exists, he/she/it has made sure that we can't see that existence, and have no reason to believe it. So why do you?

[@rockb4pres2012]

@@dougrobbins5367 because humans always need the good and bad to look to. Ever since we arrived on this planet we look to thank or blame something else for our actions. We should look to ourselves and act accordingly.

[@Reba24u]

@@dougrobbins5367 Because the devil is making his presence known. So much evil in our world

[@TheOutlaw256]

I was a patch holder for awhile in a so-called outlaw club. there are good and bad in every club doesn't matter if its a 1% club or a Christian club. at Daytona bike week a few yrs ago a club member of a Christian club flying his colors asked me right out if I needed any weed. he was on the sidewalk sellin his weed with a Christian symbol on his back and his club name. but then we watched 2 different 1%ers going at it with fists so don't come down on all 1% club members. ive seen them pay the bills and house off of widows that had no money. seen them buy them cars etc. and these are 60 -70 yr old ladies.ive been pulled over and told how much it would cost me to ride away without a ticket or arrest. and ive had cops give me a left to a gas station or down the road to help me get going again. so there is good and bad in every thing law enforcement or outlaw clubs.

[@miklosLegrady]

Except when you sit on gunpowder there's the risk it can go off. As a teen I sometimes hung with bikers but they all got in trouble so I figured....

[@undyne9667]

TheOutlaw256 well said. Very true.

[@trishaharrison6506]

Very true!

[@bakowsky1]

U nailed it!!! Iam a born again christian ,my father ran with the Vagabonds before he got married and i have one friend a real friend who is in the H/A m/c and another in Bacchus m/c ....also iam smoking weed right now! Ive got a fair size rap sheet ive used every drug known to mankind! like the done alot of bad things, but i TRULY am a nice guy!! Ive just had hard luck,and i fight every single day too keep my head from slipping under water and the ONLY THING that is keeping me from being a bad guy is THE HOLY SPIRIT....ya u heard me....the man upstairs, GOD! He will only let u go soooooo far.....Then as a loving father he pulls u back in and u had better listen to what he is saying because infact he does know what is better for you and thats all he wants !!!!

[@jameslee7535]

there's a lot of religious hypocrites around !

[@andrewburleson9314]

I love that they have the expert therapist, who handled the hostage negotiations at the Branch Davidian Compound in Waco. Maybe you keep that boondoggle off your resume.

[@copperworksplumbing7643]

Let's see u try that job

[@mikemurphy5898]

LOL!

[@Yokes27]

he puts that on there because he had to choose between Waco and "MOVE" in Philly

[@chrishellams1755]

andrew burleson sa ci turned out realy well

[@tiarnan76]

@Roger Clemons bit more to it than that - april 19th is a major day in the satanic calendar...look at all the other events that have happened on april 19th....theres no coincidence

[@syyenergy7]

The 'good' cop says only the "law" matters not "morality". There's the underlying problem and why so many people don't like cops.

[@alleyoop4465]

I love how the underlying assumption running through the whole piece from beginning to end is that the cops were always good cops even when they were being corrupt. They were corrupted by the evil bikers. They are portrayed as victims who's carriers were ruined because they ran into these terrible bikers.

[@MtnTow]

Whichever side you find yourself on, this comment wins! Lol

[@A6Legit]

Cops are always the good guys till there not I guess 😆

[@JustMe-nf1mf]

That wasn't the theme at all ffs. They were only presenting what all cops are tempted with & bad ones will turn 🙄

[@alleyoop4465]

@@JustMe-nf1mf it's the thesis of the piece. He says as much less than 2 mins in.

[@JustMe-nf1mf]

@@alleyoop4465 No lol he makes the point that cops, like all human beings, are not born bad!

[@Seth-ix2db]

A lot of cops are as bad as anybody else. A friend in Detroit said he left the police force because he was more scared of the cops than anything on the street. If only bike clubs could all just live and let live.

[@aeight8797]

"Get the Hell's out of here." He pledged his heart to the gang on his wedding day. Red flag. One of many.

[@americafirst7785]

I don't understand why

[@KarenanneT]

A Eight 🤦‍♀️ so true 😂😂😂

[@bajajagrandasee3668]

@XBOXRULES what was the deal with sandy hook in the end? Specifically & exactly ?

[@sdfgghbvddgl3781]

He was a snitch

[@kevinthompson7841]

@@KarenanneT

[@bobbiusshadow6985]

Where there's greed, there's corruption.

[@Will21st]

our system caters to both.

[@missnellaful]

Particularly in 1995, when this was filmed and narrated….considering…all facts.😊

[@keithofarrell3080]

I always look forward to get a notification from the fifth estate, Guaranteed a good & interesting little docu. 👍👍

[@bobgillis1137]

"they are not the economic elite, but rather the criminal elite" Same thing. Nobody can kill more than governments acting on behalf of business interests.

[@Rizzbulla]

Preach.

[@worstknightmayor4439]

Word

[@marztar]

Business Elites kill too. Difference is Elites buy shooters. 1%ers buy the shooter a beer after such business. That's why Gov fears MC clubs. Brotherhood and Bloodthirst are powerful in combo. History of man is testament.

[@myron6305]

Dude pledges his life and love for the biker gang at his own wedding. I bet his wife was real freaking thrilled over that one.

[@ykthemayor]

I found that hilarious too lmaoooo

[@JustMe-nf1mf]

Sad thing is she proudly wore her "property of" patch & knew exactly what she was signing up for ugh

[@k.jlmfharrington3437]

I know right 😂🙄 Other than losing a child, which I have lost two kids both 2011 4 months apart 😇💔😭😇💔😭 I couldn't think of anything worse than being involved in that life!!

[@_416_]

@@JustMe-nf1mfI think Hells Angels did a way with property of patches before then, only a few big clubs still have those

[@hartesbrt4735]

There's no hard moral decision about refusing a free cup of coffee when the coffee looks like it's laced with drain unplogger

[@dalep2349]

Dr. Webster is incorrect in asserting that 'bad police officers are not born, they are made'.....I have studied the socio economic backgrounds of law enforcement and bikers, and the shared, sub culture valued traits, characteristics, and motives. Bikers and cops are a lot closer than one thinks....

[@mk-vgkfan]

While it may be true that the opportunity for corruption exists for both MC's as well as Police Officers, I for one can attest that the greatest percentage of police officers are law abiding, family value oriented individuals. I spent 32 years before retiring from LAPD and I, as well as those I worked with would NEVER cover for anyone breaking the law, especially those who have sworn to "protect and serve". Most of us joined the Department because we really did want to make a difference and serve ALL citizens.

[@DatruthBtoldy-do6bl]

Mike- please LA has the most corrupt cops in the US .....fact !

[@mk-vgkfan]

And you get your statistics from where? The media? I doubt you have any facts that support your statement which makes it even more wrong. Are there bad apples? Just as surely as there are in any job. Funny how the bad things are the only thing that ever gets sensationalized and not the great and brave acts done each and every day by the 99% of officers that are good.

[@bobbiusshadow6985]

unfortunately, the bad apples always tarnish the whole rest

[@paultremblay4836]

dale p Bad cops become bad When they get arrested, otherwise they are all good cops. In a new world without privacy, impossible to give 100% private tip information, it's an invitation for corruptions across the board

[@hoyboys1000]

Excellent program. Thanks for posting and keep up the great work!

[@amberbranks4209]

Hey Fifth Estate! I really appreciate all the hard work on this program! It's really good. Instead of lots of hype, there's strait-up good storytelling! I usually just leave a thing going and listen while I work...but this I end up watching all of it!👍

[@jakemcquade3157]

As a law abiding citizen, i am far more uneasy with the police behind me than a few bikers, club members.

[@Teeteecloud]

Absolutely !! Agree 101%

[@noend1472]

Correct MC Gangs don't attack citizens usually. Police does it ALOT more often.

[@joegriego3091]

Normal response. You break the law in front of a biker club, they dont care. Do it front of law enforcement, you could be stopped, fined, jailed or simply given a warning. Authority can be intimidating.

[@jenn6194]

What the heck!! Glad I don’t live near you That’s not to say there aren’t any corrupt police officers, but they more often than not come to a bad end. We had a crooked high official cop blown to smithereens by a bikie club back in the seventies, but nobody lamented that too much. He was a murderer and a thug.

[@mikemurphy5898]

@@jenn6194 in for 70s? Still hanging onto that one huh?

[@Fingermanant1234]

Sorry but I'm not gonna take "morality" lessons from a cop at Waco.

[@charleycox7326]

Fingermanant1234 Glad I'm not the only one! I almost instantly wrote him off as soon as they said that he was working Waco!!!

[@shawndouglass2939]

Fingermanant1234 You got that right, morality didn't exist among the officers at Waco.

[@fiddlermike]

Which "Waco", the one where cops murdered bikers and railroaded bystanders with RICO charges, or the one where cops and soldiers murdered and incinerated women and children?

[@adabsurdumblack]

bisquitnspanky Cops engage in all of those behaviors too. So surely you want to remove them from society right?

[@stephaneperron9852]

Agreed; any law enforcement agent who refers to people a "bad guys" is part of the problem

[@GOGOSLIFE]

There was a biker gang member that lived a couple of doors down from me when I was a teenager(in the '70's). I babysat for them all the time. There was one time they had a party and someone backed into my mothers car when they left. She went to him and he made sure that the person who did it, fixed it. He respected his neighbors the way anyone else would.

[@ape72patch1]

Truly amazing ! I spent 2 years being threatened by them with attempting to extort money from me. Such wonderful classy people.

[@hutch1111111]

They usually do that so the problem is snuffed out asafp. They dont want cops getting involved at any level.

[@traceykays433]

So really let’s blame all the worlds short comings on these people. Really. I could say so much about this but I’m not gonna.

[@gregblack4581]

One on one not so tough. 4 of them on 1 guy is the norm . We would just leave when they came into our bar . Never ever not once did one come in himself .

[@JustMe-nf1mf]

@@hutch1111111 🎯

[@2015071]

Corrupt Montreal Cops? That's... surprising.......

[@rehnumajamil2751]

At 2015071 as if have you been to Mexico

[@davegrabowski6123]

Rehnuma Jamil ? Doesn't make sense beatch

[@winkie3331]

@@davegrabowski6123 they thought OP said Monterrey, capital of the Mexican state Nuevo Leon. Also off topic but Canada has countless crime issues. I suppose because it's next to the U.S. that it gets buried, but it's ridiculous to pretend there's not a bunch of missing aboriginal women in Canada

[@renemcintyre3653]

THEY THINK THEY ARE SUCH HONEST LITTLE CREATURES.

[@hennaduvenhage7855]

@@davegrabowski6123 íò

[@tbone132tjf]

the cop is now out on parole he only got 7 years

[@aldadda6742]

It's Canada what do you expect lmao

[@htomerif]

I like the part where they take a 20 minute story and stretch it out for 45 minutes.

[@htomerif]

@XBOXRULES You're better off getting your news from reddit or wikipedia. The new york times is 170ish years old and they've lost almost all of their credibility in a decade.

[@rrb8864]

Then I fall asleep

[@Tom_Bee_]

@XBOXRULES so scientifically illiterate it makes my eyes bleed to read your comments. When was the last time NYC dug mass graves to accommodate seasonal flu or RTA victims? You're comparing apples and oranges.

[@Tom_Bee_]

@XBOXRULES lol all the things you cited are entirely routine and predictable. They do not overwhelm a system designed specifically to cope with such ordinary eventualities. Again, I ask you, when was the last time a road traffic accident caused mass graves to be utilised in NYC? I assume the reason you won't answer this question is bc to consider it at all, in any way, will severely challenge your dogmatic and ill-informed position?

[@Tom_Bee_]

@XBOXRULES I don't news media for my world view. I siens like a boss though. Call me patronising names all you like, btw. It won't make me any less adult or reasonably well informed and it certainly won't make you any more factually correct.

[@Marcfj]

Bottom-line, the Hells Angels have never trampled on my Constitutional Rights, whereas, the police have violated my Fourth Amendment right and thrown me in jail for exercising my Second Amendment right. So, who do you think I regard as my real enemy?

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!! Thank you for all the great uploads!

[@peterlightning9235]

They never considered that the outlaw bikers might be good at their jobs as well. So it's not really surprising that they got Roberge to supply them with information.

[@dundem187]

Peter Lightning Well, most of them had 50 plus years to perfect their criminal careers. Most people grow out of the gangsta stage by their mid 20s. White boys don't feel like being gangstas until they hit their 40s and 50s 😂

[@nowhining5461]

Most assuredly..

[@ryangrantbeecher2734]

The bikers know everything.

[@elizabethevenson6110]

@Devon R B down here we'd call it "knowing ALLL the *chisme*", but i don't know the quebecois equivalent of "gossip/info".

[@willatwood]

Lmao at the therapist! I do t think I would hire any person bragging about being on the front line at Waco in negotiations. They had no control and it even became one of the worst incidents in US history. Not something to brag about or even want on your resume and then have it brought up in a documentary that states your an expert in the negotiating field. I say your credibility goes out the window with that one.

[@itsme2365]

It must take massive balls of steel to be an undercover dude.

[@stevenattanasso2003]

@Fluke Ego ....

[@johngirgenti7651]

MisGuided Me .

[@cassandraharris442]

Oh, I read a book written by an ATF agent that went undercover for The Mongols. Pretty intense! Those guys are more insane than The Hell's Angels.

[@starmanskye]

@ 6:48, the Canadian policeman says, 'Our job is to protect people'. Well, that's not technically true. Their public 'duty' by law is to uphold statutes, write infraction traffic citations and apprehend law-breakers. Whatever protection they provide is incidental, by arresting those who disturb the peace by commission of statute crime, which in some few limited cases means apprehending those who make violent threats. But of course, since the neoliberal laize fair/reactionary era of Reagan/Thatcher and the War on Drugs, police have increasingly been corrupted by the enormous profits of drugs and collusion with organized crime gangs, selling info and influence, engaging in sideline extortion and running their own protection rackets.

[@karmas4172]

Everyone knows the cops work with the mob on Montreal.. The head of the rock machine was a COP LOL

[@jessed3648]

wtf, it was founded by Salvatore Cazetta, his crew, they form a Alliance whit the gang de l'ouest Montréal & few indépendant drug dealers

[@marknieuwejaar1075]

@@jessed3648 snitch...

[@jessed3648]

@@marknieuwejaar1075 wtf, its well knowne a lot of "snitch" have expose those facts in court a long time ago. Your a punk, ti'fif

[@marknieuwejaar1075]

@@jessed3648 punk with armed friends...

[@jessed3648]

@@marknieuwejaar1075 Bravo, im afraid of your armed friends, where u from anyway

[@bradyhoflin3414]

When I managed a liquor store I had a whole bunch of fully patched members as regulars, honest to god my nicest customers I ever had🤷‍♂️

[@fuckyoujewlube5555]

HA's rank amongst some of the most decent people I've ever met. UNlike cops and lawyers and doctors and employers and friends and family and etc etc etc.

[@JustMe-nf1mf]

Of course ffs. Only a moron would cause trouble in an establishment they frequent when they are part of a crime organization 🙄

[@MrAns786]

Here in the UK we don't have a big problem with bikers. Most bikers are nice people to get on with, the ones who like motorbikes and enjoy riding are the real bikers as far as I'm concerned. Hells Angels have a bad reputation and are known to be involved in illegal activities/crime especially in countries like USA/Canada where there is a big gang culture.

[@dslkjvoxicuyhgl4554]

The negotiator guy thinks he is good, yet every action they cited that he did, was arguably pure evil. But don't accept a coffee from a bad guy, right?

[@tobybeggs8676]

Its way more complicated than “pure evil”, there is no pure evil in the world

[@lilspikes81]

I came to watch commercials, noticed there was a documentary interrupting them.

[@timelesskoontah]

Personally if a gangster kills another and no innocent person gets hurt then don't waste tax money to solve it...just let it be ..

[@o0GrayMatters0o]

that makes logical sense to me, but that's not a very lucrative business model.

[@rayray8687]

Grey Matters: It’s considered a self-perpetuating social service. The one loser kills the other loser, and then that guy’s brother kills the other guy, who’s best friend in turn kills him and so on. If the police would stop arresting these goofs we’d soon be rid of the lot through reverse Darwinism - elimination of the stupidest.

[@o0GrayMatters0o]

@@rayray8687: Yeah, but then how do we justify the absurd spending and increased budget proposal's? It's not like the average consumer will fall for the whole domestic terror threat thing will they? Gotta find a way to allocate these digits evenly so that the average schlupp won't know we're robbin' 'em blind. There's gotta be a boogie man. Boogie men are great for business.

[@rayray8687]

Grey Matters: Yeah, I know. I was just trying to save some tax money, but you can’t fight Wall Street.

[@dwelch1051]

How do you know if a gangster type did to start ?

[@dragonmaster9360]

Difference between a Cop and a Biker: You can't buy a Biker.

[@laurencedemeo5318]

NOT ENOUGH ADS

[@audreejamie6751]

I worked with an RCMP officer that had infiltrated the Hells. I watched videos of insane amounts of drugs he had recorded. The videos were crazy asf.

[@hatzikuN]

His wedding vows was directed at the club and not the wife. That's pretty funny.

[@kenj4711]

He thought he was a ladies man. But by his own words he didn't deserve that beautiful lady.

[@luv2umumsue]

At that point, she was so far in it didn't matter what she thought or felt.

[@sda9995]

Caz he's a narcissistic she just a supply

[@onefeather2]

They have to.

[@marleneg7794]

I know. I saw that.

[@kathrynludrick4821]

Illegal but not immoral is a justification to cross a line, whether one is a police officer or not.

[@jefffyfe9892]

This cop did bad things for a long time, yet this show never really condemns him. It rationalizes his conduct. It excuses his behaviour by returning to the it's so tough to be a cop argument. The justice system furthers the rationalization: let him serve a couple of years in minimum security. Even the cop himself rationalizes his behaviour at his parole hearing. He says he worked with these cases too long, creating a moral grey area, as if to say, it's tough being a cop, y'know. There is no such thing as hard hitting journalism in Canada, when the preferred members of society do bad things.

[@BIGNICKELL1]

Don't the Montreal Police have a reputation for corruption? This was made over 6 years ago but look at the last 18 months of the police all across Canada and their heavy-handedness during the pandemic.

[@preciousgems4036]

DISRESPECT IS THE LEAST OF THE SICKNESS

[@phillipburke2709]

How to learn to think and act like a criminal,put yourself in a desperate situation and see how long it takes until your a ''criminal''.What a joke, it s just people .

[@2jzfox...]

Cop was protecting the club. Why he told on him is beyond me.

[@agentcube5741]

A short documentary about two rival gangs fighting each other

[@rehnumajamil2751]

T White I was waiting for the main person

[@honeybsweetnectar1713]

T White 😂😂😂😂😂😂 truth

[@dundem187]

White on white violence. Where was WLM then?

[@antg007]

I love that protest by the people. That example needs to be copied.

[@ianmangham4570]

The politicians DON'T

[@amberbranks4209]

Being a cop means you gotta judge everyone and hold yourself so high up you can never, ever let loose or down, down, down you go! No thanks. I'll just be me

[@ginahaley3866]

As much as I like watching this channel having 10-12 ad breaks is rediculous! Kinda greedy don't you think?

[@abird2931]

Why don't you use adblock?

[@aaronellis6870]

Gotta make some money somehow 🤷‍♀️

[@SleepyKev1n]

Use adblock or move the slider to the end and hit replay boom no ads

[@abird2931]

@@SleepyKev1n I've been finding that doesn't always work with some videos, must be they have caught on!

[@SleepyKev1n]

@@abird2931 it's hit and miss I'm starting to hate KZbin cause of the double ads at the start

[@marvinmcintosh8201]

Money money money everybody loves money that's the problem where u find lots of money you will fine corruption

[@igotstoknow2]

The problem is the love of money. Money is nothing more than symbols of value to exchange for value. 99.9% of lots of money was earned by good people.

[@bobbiusshadow6985]

greed is eternal

[@paultremblay4836]

marvin mcintosh but cops do lots of money and good retirement

[@tomschmitt6911]

*find

[@tomschmitt6911]

find

[@jakspratt4465]

I think Roberge was affiliated with bikers before he became a cop.

[@sh1tshowgongshowpodcast147]

Jak Spratt your right ! 10000%

[@pickles3128]

@MrCoffee Crisp The women look even rougher!

[@stevenattanasso2003]

@@pickles3128 I agree .... most of those "Biker Chicks" have dicks .....

[@Blue-xb2xr]

It has always amazed me how citizens do not demand change with the policing models. The culture of any organization will corrupt the best intended. Both organizations have an us vs them mentality. The members know a diff model is required.

[@sticksnstones4357]

Looked like a cool documentary but refuse to watch something on KZbin that has 40 midroll ads!

[@superboy982]

If you skip the video to the end and replay it, you got no ads! Remember it, it will save you allot of time :)

[@southernbreeze3278]

The guy served barely over 2 years total of an eight year sentence and was paroled. Corruption - right to the top

[@jeffleblanc8850]

Ya but if it was a biker the fuckers would throw away the key ther is so many dirty cops not funny especially in Quebec I trust no cop

[@gailjarvis2592]

He spent only 27 months in prison - that's all - then he was released.

[@str8cndian]

in ontario they would have suspended him with pay.

[@rehnumajamil2751]

str8cndian really??!!???!??!?!?!?!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!!

[@MsAmarg]

str8cndian he is being sarcastic

[@ve5618]

nova scotia would have arrested bens mother and charged her with assaulting a cop and resisting arrest. and conspiracy and made her take anger management

[@maryspencer791]

no he's not

[@drgreen852]

Youre right. A hamilton police officer was involved in gang activities and got suspended with pay. He was suspended with over 100k a year.

[@bodhi8297]

They flipped Benoit to snitch on the cops lmao I love it

[@MichaelDavis-zf6nt]

Retired just before being arrested. Which I'm sure that means he gets to keep his lifetime pension. Almost like he knew it was coming.

[@A6Legit]

Or they let him retire first knowing he was going down.

[@misfit662145]

If drugs where legal, none of this BS would be necessary ..

[@mukhumor]

Err... they are Child Snatchers for the VIP's. If Canada had snipers none of this would happen.

[@misfit662145]

bs

[@Del-Canada]

I like how it says Walk the Line will return and then it returns.

[@rehnumajamil2751]

Del lol thats what I was thinking

[@daves2552]

Unlike the police,,bike clubs don’t target innocent folks.

[@somniumisdreaming]

Yes they do.

[@werewally3156]

@@somniumisdreaming yes they do

[@DanReinfoma]

Dave Sprague you’re an idiot

[@Dylan-zf5wy]

Dave sprague I agree with u man

[@Dylan-zf5wy]

@@somniumisdreaming how do they target innocent people

[@k.jlmfharrington3437]

That poor INNOCENT little boy! 😠😭💙💔

[@flyinspirals]

Okay -- when a robber says 'we clicked right from the start' about a cop -- huge red flag. Because okay -- 'the lure of evil' might befall any cop, or anyone -- but it snags a few easily.

[@canvan8818]

Very good reportage. Well done Fifth Estate!

[@rehnumajamil2751]

Can Van ok I agree with you

[@kenskater8602]

now I'm no mathematician but there's a math problem here.... they say the gang was decimated, they say over a hundred where arrested, and also say nearly 30 escaped.... so that means they arrested how many ? if they had been decimated that is one in ten...3 for the 30 that escaped....or if 100 where in fact arrested that would mean 900 escaped.

[@bobbiusshadow6985]

lol

[@klippiesss]

Ken Skater I know. I dislike the way the media use that word . It's sensationalism not stating fact.

[@hanniballectormd5569]

"Nobody on your police force saw this coming?" What a stupid question smh….

[@darkknight1340]

He walked out on the most corrupt gang on the planet,and joined the Hells Angels.

[@sentio1382]

Not one informant works one way. Every cop / agent that works with informants give them as well info.

[@derekweinert7943]

Fifth estate is the best in my opinion. No frills

[@nodens5593]

Things can be Moral and Illegal, just like how Slavery was Legal and Immoral. My wife's a lawyer and we've discussed this concept in law, and while its not the job of the police to interpret the Law they are given discretion for that reason.

[@user-gu3ie]

Not gonna lie, French is pretty much the least intimidating language ever created 😂

[@NomadismeExperimental]

You'd be surprised.

[@adrianjohn.]

the beginning with a coffee is a psychology unto itself extending into a butterfly effect

[@biggunna8863]

This is easy. The cop made a deal with someone in hells angel to over throw the leadership so that angel can rise in power then the cop is a star in both worlds and have high private ranks in the gang

[@purplepacks7175]

100% that's what I was thinking

[@mickeyodom9122]

Wow at his wedding instead of pledging allegiance to his wife he basically read his vals to the gang lol poor girl

[@charlesdrapo4708]

Just like the Italian Mob

[@Fingermanant1234]

It doesn't matter if you wear a badge.....when it comes to money every human is evil

[@rehnumajamil2751]

Fingermanant1234 not my dad he's a equally good person

[@MakeMineaDouble]

You nailed it!

[@josboersema1352]

Dark Mice: name your price and hear me say no, try it now. Nihilism is not pretty and not a sign of wisdom.

[@josboersema1352]

Dark Mice: no.

[@mpras684]

Jos Boersema I

[@luv2umumsue]

Corruption is only one reason cops cross the line. Anyone can be blackmailed or threatened into that. What would we do if family and friends were at risk or secrets twisted to ruin us? Not everyone on the organized crime payroll wants to be there.

[@johnleach7879]

Superb quality in writing (Kelly) , videos and production (many guys). Has this been offered to U.S. law enforcement? TV networks? There's a need for it.

[@kenj4711]

He was not born corrupt but he became corrupt by some type of lust that was able to trap him.

[@gofigure5910]

The "bad" in this world help provide the "good" their jobs and means for a living. It's a paradox.

[@mckinneyman4325]

So the cop is a criminal and we should empathize with him? How about the people he harmed and put in harms way?

[@ceejay6882]

French speaking bikers? They must own Harleys that drive in reverse.

[@pololedodo7981]

Why dont you go tell them yourself.

[@yamahale]

@@pololedodo7981 We all know they are tough, but why do they ride the wimpiest bikes?

[@chais1111]

French Canadian Hell's Angels bikers mean business, look up Mom Boucher

[@pololedodo7981]

@BKK they have a place called 'the bunker' in Sorel, Quebec. Good luck.

[@JustMe-nf1mf]

@BKK I suggest you look up why even Sonny Barger left the Canadian Hell's alone lol.

[@someoneelse.2252]

To be honest, I'm more afraid of violence by the Police than Biker gangs.

[@solangeboudreau6467]

The heavy metal music blaring and noisy motorcycle noise makes this unwatchable for me.

[@gaetana.cincire5821]

The line between good and bad...crosses the heart...So true ! Dixit: Alexander Soljenitsin .

[@lukapopovic6668]

If I was a cop I'm sure 100% I would've never crossed that thin line, maybe accepted a coffee, it's the matter of trust . there's no excuse for it

[@janiznick]

liar

[@bobbydusanjh426]

Cops is another gang

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

This is the most slept on KZbin channel by Americans.

[@HabeasJ]

Im not even a minute and a half in, yet I already know the majority of what they're gonna cover in the next 41ish minutes. Thanks CBC!

[@AlaskanAndie]

Not sure where or how far reaching it was, but there was a time when the Hells Angels were trying to create a new reputation, making a real effort to be good citizens, going as far as catching criminals and doing good deeds!?! I wonder what happened?!!?

[@JustMe-nf1mf]

Oh they still have propaganda campaigns here in Canada. Clean cut suits & ties driving mercedes etc sometimes, big VERY PUBLIC ride with toys for kids with cancer etc. Obviously just polishing the brand & their cover to anyone who pays attention but far too many people eat it up ugh

[@FirstLast-vl1uy]

Nice doc. I thought I've seen every outlaw biker documentary there was. Guess there's always one ya miss

[@penskepc2374]

So wait? Did they just dumb the recorder with the guys body? Real criminal masterminds the police are up against.

[@schlooonginator1227]

I have lost a lot of respect for police. There is no grey area for police eh? Then why is it that the police here do what is deemed unlawful in America? In fact they spend millions to do it. That is the complete fabrication of criminal acts perpetraed by themselves to ensnare whomever they target. Just recently I read of these convictions involving a cocaine import which ultimately snagged 2 HA members and another. However, there was no actual crime other than that which was created by the RCMP who posed as Colombian cartel men. So, while police botch, mishandle and claim a lack of manpower for real cases involving peoples lives such as missing persons and other serious incidents, they waste millions in resources to make up a crime then entrap(this is what makes these illegal in the US) whomever they have targetted. All perfectly legal. They get to create a cocaine importation conspiracy, target civilians then bust said civilians but ,obviously, nothing happens tto them, they are "law enforcement". Just like what they did to those 2 welfare clients to get a terrorism conviction. Thankfully they happened to get a judge who saw through the cops BS but how many others have been targeted and convicted based on crimes that never existed? The police can and do simply manufacture any type of crime they want in order to arrest people and I think this is insane in any free and democratic society. This is an example of a police state.

[@rehnumajamil2751]

schlooonginator I never finished reading what you wrote how long did take

[@shawndouglass2939]

Rehnuma Jamil It was good you should have read it .

[@willthechill3992]

Thats the government you're describing, not cops.

[@kennybaez2240]

Of course they used hockey bags for cash it’s Canada

[@tondallorodriguez4828]

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[@tondallorodriguez4828]

@@TUTENSKENGS what is haram?

[@tondallorodriguez4828]

@MisGuided Me They do it all the time...

[@shawnerickstad129]

The wako standoff was a complete disaster so I wouldn’t brag about that on my resume lol

[@sharmoutha]

Waco. But I agree

[@kummakummakummakummakummac8606]

Blame the people who chose to break the law and go to war with the federal government.

[@MC-zk7ll]

I didn’t realise cbc used to make stuff worth watching.. go figure

[@ladyj7517]

I think most of you have missed the point. It's about human nature, greed and temptation, not the badge or the uniform. There is corruption everywhere, through all walks of life and every facet of society, from top Politicians all the way down; this makes for interesting viewing but is not news.

[@willofortune7048]

Lady J , the whole point i think , and feel is the code , there is a line and playing both sides no matter what group , gang , profession , you never play both sides , they always get taken out in death , court , or punishment for rules broken.

[@kurtlovef150]

To me....if your undercover.....your going to HAVE to use drugs and break the law.

[@dylanfarnum4121]

@Gary Mcguckin lmao hes probably undercover and using drugs