Benoit Roberge : Walk the Line - the fifth estate

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The Fifth Estate

The Fifth Estate

8 жыл бұрын

The astonishing story of former Montreal police investigator Benoit Roberge, once known for putting bikers behind bars, but now accused of selling police information to the Hells Angels - and insight from other officers who have walked that thin line between cop and criminal. A joint investigation by Radio-Canada's Enquête and the fifth estate.
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@Jakal-pw8yq
@Jakal-pw8yq 3 жыл бұрын
I've been a biker my entire life, I'm in my sixties now and ride purely for pleasure. I lived in Oakland California in the 1960s and became a member of the Gypsy Jokers. From what I saw while I was in that club, it was mostly about riding and running speed throughout the Oakland and San Francisco area. Speed was our coffee and we used to use it and ride 4 hours on end. I never saw any of the hardcore crimes, but when one of the sergeants was tasked with killing a rival biker and was bragging about it, I had had enough. I moved out of the area and left no forwarding address, and left it at that. The sergeant was eventually and charged with murder. Then the charges were changed to justifiable homicide and he was set free. I don't know about anybody else, but I immediately knew that somebody on the Oakland homicide unit was in the pocket of the Joker's. It didn't surprise me at all because I knew that there were cops on the payroll of the Joker's for years.
@pobunjenika7228
@pobunjenika7228 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience of being a part of the Gypsy Jokers & leaving (good move). I lived in Copenhagen Denmark from 1994-2002. During that time there was a brutal, deadly biker war between the Hell's Angels & the Bandidos, very similar to the violence portrayed in this documentary. Bikers being shot in broad daylight on the streets of Denmark, the Bandidos firing a shoulder held rocket into the Hell's Angels Copenhagen city centre club house. It was all about territory. Eventually the H.A & the Bandidos agreed to carve up the nationwide territory & everything returned to business as usual. There's never been a documentary made about the Danish biker wars which lasted several years. Most people outside of Denmark don't even know about it. I moved to South East Asia after leaving Denmark & spent the next several years travelling & chilling out before eventually settling down in Portugal. Good times 🙂
@omahabred9466
@omahabred9466 2 жыл бұрын
@@pobunjenika7228 wow, I would never have associated Denmark with biker gangs had you not narrated this story.
@andrewsmith7115
@andrewsmith7115 2 жыл бұрын
@@pobunjenika7228 There is one very good documentary on the Scandinavian Biker war by A&E but it’s hard to find.
@Iswhatitisssss
@Iswhatitisssss Жыл бұрын
@@pobunjenika7228 if you don’t mind me asking, what is it you do for a living - which allows you to settle in such places ?
@TheEsjie
@TheEsjie Жыл бұрын
@@pobunjenika7228 there’s a documentary on KZbin now about the Nordic/ European biker war, just search it up
@calbrush6654
@calbrush6654 3 жыл бұрын
“The line between good and evil runs through every human heart”
@fuckyoujewlube5555
@fuckyoujewlube5555 3 жыл бұрын
there is no good. just evil and more evil. if you think there's good - you live a delusion.
@kendall3833
@kendall3833 2 жыл бұрын
Thin line between saved and unsaved peace.
@annalisavajda252
@annalisavajda252 9 ай бұрын
Cliche. Not everyone is a dirty cop endangering lives refusing to do their jobs properly.
@bobbiusshadow6985
@bobbiusshadow6985 3 жыл бұрын
Where there's greed, there's corruption.
@Will21st
@Will21st 2 жыл бұрын
our system caters to both.
@missnellaful
@missnellaful 9 ай бұрын
Particularly in 1995, when this was filmed and narrated….considering…all facts.😊
@hoyboys1000
@hoyboys1000 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent program. Thanks for posting and keep up the great work!
@jenn6194
@jenn6194 5 жыл бұрын
Whether you’re a corrupt cop or a gang member, it’s all about power, greed and a lack of conscience. No concept of common decency or thought for the people who just want a safe environment for their loved ones. Thugs and criminals, although, given the choice, I’d rather be imprisoned as a gang member than a crooked cop.
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!! Thank you for all the great uploads!
@hartesbrt4735
@hartesbrt4735 3 жыл бұрын
There's no hard moral decision about refusing a free cup of coffee when the coffee looks like it's laced with drain unplogger
@andrewburleson9314
@andrewburleson9314 6 жыл бұрын
I love that they have the expert therapist, who handled the hostage negotiations at the Branch Davidian Compound in Waco. Maybe you keep that boondoggle off your resume.
@copperworksplumbing7643
@copperworksplumbing7643 6 жыл бұрын
Let's see u try that job
@mikemurphy5898
@mikemurphy5898 5 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@Yokes27
@Yokes27 5 жыл бұрын
he puts that on there because he had to choose between Waco and "MOVE" in Philly
@chrishellams1755
@chrishellams1755 5 жыл бұрын
andrew burleson sa ci turned out realy well
@tiarnan76
@tiarnan76 4 жыл бұрын
@Roger Clemons bit more to it than that - april 19th is a major day in the satanic calendar...look at all the other events that have happened on april 19th....theres no coincidence
@darkknight1340
@darkknight1340 3 жыл бұрын
He walked out on the most corrupt gang on the planet,and joined the Hells Angels.
@keithofarrell3080
@keithofarrell3080 3 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to get a notification from the fifth estate, Guaranteed a good & interesting little docu. 👍👍
@FukaiKokoro
@FukaiKokoro 7 жыл бұрын
That guy has zero right to talk about illegal or immoral. Wako situation was both illegal and immoral.
@bodhi8297
@bodhi8297 3 жыл бұрын
Way more horrific than anything bikers do. They don’t burn kids alive
@avamasquerade
@avamasquerade 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they'll ever admit that there's a possibility that these cops weren't plants in the hell's angels, but were hell's angels plants in the police force. Probably not though cause how embarrassing would that be?
@MtnTow
@MtnTow 5 жыл бұрын
There was papers here and there describing plans to do that but nothing concrete that ive ever heard of.
@robgav6754
@robgav6754 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO... That never even crossed my mind Ava Masquerade! Now that is certainly thinking outside of the box, and definitely a very reasonable possibility!! Ever thought of being a Lawyer?
@somethingaboutbeauty8245
@somethingaboutbeauty8245 4 жыл бұрын
@@robgav6754 agreed.
@brandonduhon3136
@brandonduhon3136 4 жыл бұрын
Think about what your saying ... Hell's Angel's Guys ... wouldn't inheritably be good candidates
@bctad4562
@bctad4562 4 жыл бұрын
!!! The Departed
@willatwood
@willatwood 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao at the therapist! I do t think I would hire any person bragging about being on the front line at Waco in negotiations. They had no control and it even became one of the worst incidents in US history. Not something to brag about or even want on your resume and then have it brought up in a documentary that states your an expert in the negotiating field. I say your credibility goes out the window with that one.
@DatruthBtoldy-do6bl
@DatruthBtoldy-do6bl 6 жыл бұрын
The Waco Texas standoff isn’t something this “negotiator should be bragging about!
@mrveritas700
@mrveritas700 5 жыл бұрын
POINT BLANK MURDER OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
@alexisgordon2759
@alexisgordon2759 5 жыл бұрын
I agree
@SENCE302
@SENCE302 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed wholeheartedly dude basically refused a search warrant and they burned that place to the ground out of control federal government
@blazed1945
@blazed1945 5 жыл бұрын
Straight slaughter
@russhartman4927
@russhartman4927 5 жыл бұрын
That and Ruby Ridge were the opening acts of the Clinton crime cabal 93. He and Janet Reno should still be in jail today. That is how corrupt our system is top to bottom.
@myron6305
@myron6305 3 жыл бұрын
Dude pledges his life and love for the biker gang at his own wedding. I bet his wife was real freaking thrilled over that one.
@ykthemayor
@ykthemayor 3 жыл бұрын
I found that hilarious too lmaoooo
@JustMe-nf1mf
@JustMe-nf1mf 3 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is she proudly wore her "property of" patch & knew exactly what she was signing up for ugh
@k.jlmfharrington3437
@k.jlmfharrington3437 2 жыл бұрын
I know right 😂🙄 Other than losing a child, which I have lost two kids both 2011 4 months apart 😇💔😭😇💔😭 I couldn't think of anything worse than being involved in that life!!
@amberbranks4209
@amberbranks4209 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Fifth Estate! I really appreciate all the hard work on this program! It's really good. Instead of lots of hype, there's strait-up good storytelling! I usually just leave a thing going and listen while I work...but this I end up watching all of it!👍
@aeight8797
@aeight8797 4 жыл бұрын
"Get the Hell's out of here." He pledged his heart to the gang on his wedding day. Red flag. One of many.
@americafirst7785
@americafirst7785 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why
@Karenanneseven
@Karenanneseven 4 жыл бұрын
A Eight 🤦‍♀️ so true 😂😂😂
@bajajagrandasee3668
@bajajagrandasee3668 4 жыл бұрын
@XBOXRULES what was the deal with sandy hook in the end? Specifically & exactly ?
@sdfgghbvddgl3781
@sdfgghbvddgl3781 4 жыл бұрын
He was a snitch
@kaigottwald2195
@kaigottwald2195 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the difference between a good man and a bad one is just that: The good man is tempted, but resists; the bad man is tempted and yields. Temptation is in both of them. The place of darkness in all our hearts.
@dougrobbins5367
@dougrobbins5367 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out the obvious
@kabeyz
@kabeyz 4 жыл бұрын
But sometimes the bad man repents pays his debt and turns his life around. Only God knows the nature of one's heart or soul. One mistake as grave as it appears to be doesn't define the nature of one's heart or soul. That's how I see it. I think that the bad people are those who never apologize or don't have any remorse for their wrongdoings.
@dougrobbins5367
@dougrobbins5367 4 жыл бұрын
@@kabeyz Good points, but what was it that led you to a belief in God? If God exists, he/she/it has made sure that we can't see that existence, and have no reason to believe it. So why do you?
@rockb4pres2012
@rockb4pres2012 4 жыл бұрын
@@dougrobbins5367 because humans always need the good and bad to look to. Ever since we arrived on this planet we look to thank or blame something else for our actions. We should look to ourselves and act accordingly.
@Reba24u
@Reba24u 9 ай бұрын
@@dougrobbins5367 Because the devil is making his presence known. So much evil in our world
@clamkinman
@clamkinman 4 жыл бұрын
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@itsme2365
@itsme2365 4 жыл бұрын
It must take massive balls of steel to be an undercover dude.
@stevenattanasso2003
@stevenattanasso2003 4 жыл бұрын
@Fluke Ego ....
@johngirgenti7651
@johngirgenti7651 4 жыл бұрын
MisGuided Me .
@cassandraharris442
@cassandraharris442 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I read a book written by an ATF agent that went undercover for The Mongols. Pretty intense! Those guys are more insane than The Hell's Angels.
@Seth-ix2db
@Seth-ix2db Жыл бұрын
A lot of cops are as bad as anybody else. A friend in Detroit said he left the police force because he was more scared of the cops than anything on the street. If only bike clubs could all just live and let live.
@tbone132tjf
@tbone132tjf 4 жыл бұрын
the cop is now out on parole he only got 7 years
@aldadda6742
@aldadda6742 3 жыл бұрын
It's Canada what do you expect lmao
@dslkjvoxicuyhgl4554
@dslkjvoxicuyhgl4554 3 жыл бұрын
The negotiator guy thinks he is good, yet every action they cited that he did, was arguably pure evil. But don't accept a coffee from a bad guy, right?
@karmas4172
@karmas4172 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows the cops work with the mob on Montreal.. The head of the rock machine was a COP LOL
@jessed3648
@jessed3648 4 жыл бұрын
wtf, it was founded by Salvatore Cazetta, his crew, they form a Alliance whit the gang de l'ouest Montréal & few indépendant drug dealers
@marknieuwejaar1075
@marknieuwejaar1075 4 жыл бұрын
@@jessed3648 snitch...
@jessed3648
@jessed3648 4 жыл бұрын
@@marknieuwejaar1075 wtf, its well knowne a lot of "snitch" have expose those facts in court a long time ago. Your a punk, ti'fif
@marknieuwejaar1075
@marknieuwejaar1075 4 жыл бұрын
@@jessed3648 punk with armed friends...
@jessed3648
@jessed3648 4 жыл бұрын
@@marknieuwejaar1075 Bravo, im afraid of your armed friends, where u from anyway
@MrAns786
@MrAns786 4 жыл бұрын
Here in the UK we don't have a big problem with bikers. Most bikers are nice people to get on with, the ones who like motorbikes and enjoy riding are the real bikers as far as I'm concerned. Hells Angels have a bad reputation and are known to be involved in illegal activities/crime especially in countries like USA/Canada where there is a big gang culture.
@hatzikuN
@hatzikuN 4 жыл бұрын
His wedding vows was directed at the club and not the wife. That's pretty funny.
@kenj4711
@kenj4711 4 жыл бұрын
He thought he was a ladies man. But by his own words he didn't deserve that beautiful lady.
@luv2umumsue
@luv2umumsue 4 жыл бұрын
At that point, she was so far in it didn't matter what she thought or felt.
@sda9995
@sda9995 4 жыл бұрын
Caz he's a narcissistic she just a supply
@onefeather2
@onefeather2 4 жыл бұрын
They have to.
@marleneg7794
@marleneg7794 3 жыл бұрын
I know. I saw that.
@laurencedemeo5318
@laurencedemeo5318 3 жыл бұрын
NOT ENOUGH ADS
@syyenergy7
@syyenergy7 Жыл бұрын
The 'good' cop says only the "law" matters not "morality". There's the underlying problem and why so many people don't like cops.
@2015071
@2015071 7 жыл бұрын
Corrupt Montreal Cops? That's... surprising.......
@rehnumajamil2751
@rehnumajamil2751 7 жыл бұрын
At 2015071 as if have you been to Mexico
@davegrabowski6123
@davegrabowski6123 6 жыл бұрын
Rehnuma Jamil ? Doesn't make sense beatch
@winkie3331
@winkie3331 4 жыл бұрын
@@davegrabowski6123 they thought OP said Monterrey, capital of the Mexican state Nuevo Leon. Also off topic but Canada has countless crime issues. I suppose because it's next to the U.S. that it gets buried, but it's ridiculous to pretend there's not a bunch of missing aboriginal women in Canada
@renemcintyre3653
@renemcintyre3653 4 жыл бұрын
THEY THINK THEY ARE SUCH HONEST LITTLE CREATURES.
@hennaduvenhage7855
@hennaduvenhage7855 3 жыл бұрын
@@davegrabowski6123 íò
@TheOutlaw256
@TheOutlaw256 7 жыл бұрын
I was a patch holder for awhile in a so-called outlaw club. there are good and bad in every club doesn't matter if its a 1% club or a Christian club. at Daytona bike week a few yrs ago a club member of a Christian club flying his colors asked me right out if I needed any weed. he was on the sidewalk sellin his weed with a Christian symbol on his back and his club name. but then we watched 2 different 1%ers going at it with fists so don't come down on all 1% club members. ive seen them pay the bills and house off of widows that had no money. seen them buy them cars etc. and these are 60 -70 yr old ladies.ive been pulled over and told how much it would cost me to ride away without a ticket or arrest. and ive had cops give me a left to a gas station or down the road to help me get going again. so there is good and bad in every thing law enforcement or outlaw clubs.
@miklosLegrady
@miklosLegrady 7 жыл бұрын
Except when you sit on gunpowder there's the risk it can go off. As a teen I sometimes hung with bikers but they all got in trouble so I figured....
@undyne9667
@undyne9667 7 жыл бұрын
TheOutlaw256 well said. Very true.
@trishaharrison6506
@trishaharrison6506 7 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@bakowsky1
@bakowsky1 7 жыл бұрын
U nailed it!!! Iam a born again christian ,my father ran with the Vagabonds before he got married and i have one friend a real friend who is in the H/A m/c and another in Bacchus m/c ....also iam smoking weed right now! Ive got a fair size rap sheet ive used every drug known to mankind! like the done alot of bad things, but i TRULY am a nice guy!! Ive just had hard luck,and i fight every single day too keep my head from slipping under water and the ONLY THING that is keeping me from being a bad guy is THE HOLY SPIRIT....ya u heard me....the man upstairs, GOD! He will only let u go soooooo far.....Then as a loving father he pulls u back in and u had better listen to what he is saying because infact he does know what is better for you and thats all he wants !!!!
@jameslee7535
@jameslee7535 6 жыл бұрын
there's a lot of religious hypocrites around !
@bradyhoflin3414
@bradyhoflin3414 3 жыл бұрын
When I managed a liquor store I had a whole bunch of fully patched members as regulars, honest to god my nicest customers I ever had🤷‍♂️
@fuckyoujewlube5555
@fuckyoujewlube5555 3 жыл бұрын
HA's rank amongst some of the most decent people I've ever met. UNlike cops and lawyers and doctors and employers and friends and family and etc etc etc.
@JustMe-nf1mf
@JustMe-nf1mf 3 жыл бұрын
Of course ffs. Only a moron would cause trouble in an establishment they frequent when they are part of a crime organization 🙄
@bodhi8297
@bodhi8297 3 жыл бұрын
They flipped Benoit to snitch on the cops lmao I love it
@preciousgems4036
@preciousgems4036 5 жыл бұрын
DISRESPECT IS THE LEAST OF THE SICKNESS
@dragonmaster9360
@dragonmaster9360 Жыл бұрын
Difference between a Cop and a Biker: You can't buy a Biker.
@lilspikes81
@lilspikes81 3 жыл бұрын
I came to watch commercials, noticed there was a documentary interrupting them.
@htomerif
@htomerif 4 жыл бұрын
I like the part where they take a 20 minute story and stretch it out for 45 minutes.
@htomerif
@htomerif 4 жыл бұрын
@XBOXRULES You're better off getting your news from reddit or wikipedia. The new york times is 170ish years old and they've lost almost all of their credibility in a decade.
@rrb8864
@rrb8864 4 жыл бұрын
Then I fall asleep
@Tom_Bee_
@Tom_Bee_ 4 жыл бұрын
@XBOXRULES so scientifically illiterate it makes my eyes bleed to read your comments. When was the last time NYC dug mass graves to accommodate seasonal flu or RTA victims? You're comparing apples and oranges.
@Tom_Bee_
@Tom_Bee_ 4 жыл бұрын
@XBOXRULES lol all the things you cited are entirely routine and predictable. They do not overwhelm a system designed specifically to cope with such ordinary eventualities. Again, I ask you, when was the last time a road traffic accident caused mass graves to be utilised in NYC? I assume the reason you won't answer this question is bc to consider it at all, in any way, will severely challenge your dogmatic and ill-informed position?
@Tom_Bee_
@Tom_Bee_ 4 жыл бұрын
@XBOXRULES I don't news media for my world view. I siens like a boss though. Call me patronising names all you like, btw. It won't make me any less adult or reasonably well informed and it certainly won't make you any more factually correct.
@k.jlmfharrington3437
@k.jlmfharrington3437 2 жыл бұрын
That poor INNOCENT little boy! 😠😭💙💔
@bobgillis1137
@bobgillis1137 4 жыл бұрын
"they are not the economic elite, but rather the criminal elite" Same thing. Nobody can kill more than governments acting on behalf of business interests.
@Rizzbulla
@Rizzbulla 4 жыл бұрын
Preach.
@worstknightmayor4439
@worstknightmayor4439 4 жыл бұрын
Word
@marztar
@marztar 4 жыл бұрын
Business Elites kill too. Difference is Elites buy shooters. 1%ers buy the shooter a beer after such business. That's why Gov fears MC clubs. Brotherhood and Bloodthirst are powerful in combo. History of man is testament.
@jefffyfe9892
@jefffyfe9892 4 жыл бұрын
This cop did bad things for a long time, yet this show never really condemns him. It rationalizes his conduct. It excuses his behaviour by returning to the it's so tough to be a cop argument. The justice system furthers the rationalization: let him serve a couple of years in minimum security. Even the cop himself rationalizes his behaviour at his parole hearing. He says he worked with these cases too long, creating a moral grey area, as if to say, it's tough being a cop, y'know. There is no such thing as hard hitting journalism in Canada, when the preferred members of society do bad things.
@jakemcquade3157
@jakemcquade3157 6 жыл бұрын
As a law abiding citizen, i am far more uneasy with the police behind me than a few bikers, club members.
@Teeteecloud
@Teeteecloud 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely !! Agree 101%
@noend1472
@noend1472 5 жыл бұрын
Correct MC Gangs don't attack citizens usually. Police does it ALOT more often.
@joegriego3091
@joegriego3091 5 жыл бұрын
Normal response. You break the law in front of a biker club, they dont care. Do it front of law enforcement, you could be stopped, fined, jailed or simply given a warning. Authority can be intimidating.
@jenn6194
@jenn6194 5 жыл бұрын
What the heck!! Glad I don’t live near you That’s not to say there aren’t any corrupt police officers, but they more often than not come to a bad end. We had a crooked high official cop blown to smithereens by a bikie club back in the seventies, but nobody lamented that too much. He was a murderer and a thug.
@mikemurphy5898
@mikemurphy5898 5 жыл бұрын
@@jenn6194 in for 70s? Still hanging onto that one huh?
@mickeyodom9122
@mickeyodom9122 3 жыл бұрын
Wow at his wedding instead of pledging allegiance to his wife he basically read his vals to the gang lol poor girl
@charlesdrapo4708
@charlesdrapo4708 3 жыл бұрын
Just like the Italian Mob
@alleyoop4465
@alleyoop4465 5 жыл бұрын
I love how the underlying assumption running through the whole piece from beginning to end is that the cops were always good cops even when they were being corrupt. They were corrupted by the evil bikers. They are portrayed as victims who's carriers were ruined because they ran into these terrible bikers.
@MtnTow
@MtnTow 5 жыл бұрын
Whichever side you find yourself on, this comment wins! Lol
@A6Legit
@A6Legit 3 жыл бұрын
Cops are always the good guys till there not I guess 😆
@JustMe-nf1mf
@JustMe-nf1mf 3 жыл бұрын
That wasn't the theme at all ffs. They were only presenting what all cops are tempted with & bad ones will turn 🙄
@alleyoop4465
@alleyoop4465 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustMe-nf1mf it's the thesis of the piece. He says as much less than 2 mins in.
@JustMe-nf1mf
@JustMe-nf1mf 3 жыл бұрын
@@alleyoop4465 No lol he makes the point that cops, like all human beings, are not born bad!
@Fingermanant1234
@Fingermanant1234 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I'm not gonna take "morality" lessons from a cop at Waco.
@charleycox7326
@charleycox7326 6 жыл бұрын
Fingermanant1234 Glad I'm not the only one! I almost instantly wrote him off as soon as they said that he was working Waco!!!
@shawndouglass2939
@shawndouglass2939 6 жыл бұрын
Fingermanant1234 You got that right, morality didn't exist among the officers at Waco.
@fiddlermike
@fiddlermike 6 жыл бұрын
Which "Waco", the one where cops murdered bikers and railroaded bystanders with RICO charges, or the one where cops and soldiers murdered and incinerated women and children?
@adabsurdumblack
@adabsurdumblack 6 жыл бұрын
bisquitnspanky Cops engage in all of those behaviors too. So surely you want to remove them from society right?
@stephaneperron9852
@stephaneperron9852 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed; any law enforcement agent who refers to people a "bad guys" is part of the problem
@PunkFuckUp
@PunkFuckUp 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know what that hostage interrogator cop is talking about --there is definitely a difference between whats legal and whats moral. To be fair though that guy does look like he would arrest a starving person for stealing bread, a little kid for jaywalking or a teenager with a roach.
@user-gu3ie
@user-gu3ie 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, French is pretty much the least intimidating language ever created 😂
@NomadismeExperimental
@NomadismeExperimental Жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised.
@dalep2349
@dalep2349 6 жыл бұрын
Dr. Webster is incorrect in asserting that 'bad police officers are not born, they are made'.....I have studied the socio economic backgrounds of law enforcement and bikers, and the shared, sub culture valued traits, characteristics, and motives. Bikers and cops are a lot closer than one thinks....
@michaelkammert1350
@michaelkammert1350 6 жыл бұрын
While it may be true that the opportunity for corruption exists for both MC's as well as Police Officers, I for one can attest that the greatest percentage of police officers are law abiding, family value oriented individuals. I spent 32 years before retiring from LAPD and I, as well as those I worked with would NEVER cover for anyone breaking the law, especially those who have sworn to "protect and serve". Most of us joined the Department because we really did want to make a difference and serve ALL citizens.
@DatruthBtoldy-do6bl
@DatruthBtoldy-do6bl 6 жыл бұрын
Mike- please LA has the most corrupt cops in the US .....fact !
@michaelkammert1350
@michaelkammert1350 6 жыл бұрын
And you get your statistics from where? The media? I doubt you have any facts that support your statement which makes it even more wrong. Are there bad apples? Just as surely as there are in any job. Funny how the bad things are the only thing that ever gets sensationalized and not the great and brave acts done each and every day by the 99% of officers that are good.
@bobbiusshadow6985
@bobbiusshadow6985 6 жыл бұрын
unfortunately, the bad apples always tarnish the whole rest
@paultremblay4836
@paultremblay4836 6 жыл бұрын
dale p Bad cops become bad When they get arrested, otherwise they are all good cops. In a new world without privacy, impossible to give 100% private tip information, it's an invitation for corruptions across the board
@GOGOSLIFE
@GOGOSLIFE 4 жыл бұрын
There was a biker gang member that lived a couple of doors down from me when I was a teenager(in the '70's). I babysat for them all the time. There was one time they had a party and someone backed into my mothers car when they left. She went to him and he made sure that the person who did it, fixed it. He respected his neighbors the way anyone else would.
@ape72patch1
@ape72patch1 4 жыл бұрын
Truly amazing ! I spent 2 years being threatened by them with attempting to extort money from me. Such wonderful classy people.
@hutch1111111
@hutch1111111 4 жыл бұрын
They usually do that so the problem is snuffed out asafp. They dont want cops getting involved at any level.
@traceykays433
@traceykays433 4 жыл бұрын
So really let’s blame all the worlds short comings on these people. Really. I could say so much about this but I’m not gonna.
@gregblack4581
@gregblack4581 4 жыл бұрын
One on one not so tough. 4 of them on 1 guy is the norm . We would just leave when they came into our bar . Never ever not once did one come in himself .
@JustMe-nf1mf
@JustMe-nf1mf 3 жыл бұрын
@@hutch1111111 🎯
@shawnerickstad129
@shawnerickstad129 3 жыл бұрын
The wako standoff was a complete disaster so I wouldn’t brag about that on my resume lol
@sharmoutha
@sharmoutha 3 жыл бұрын
Waco. But I agree
@kummakummakummakummakummac8606
@kummakummakummakummakummac8606 2 жыл бұрын
Blame the people who chose to break the law and go to war with the federal government.
@BIGNICKELL1
@BIGNICKELL1 2 жыл бұрын
Don't the Montreal Police have a reputation for corruption? This was made over 6 years ago but look at the last 18 months of the police all across Canada and their heavy-handedness during the pandemic.
@2jzfox...
@2jzfox... 3 жыл бұрын
Cop was protecting the club. Why he told on him is beyond me.
@starmanskye
@starmanskye 5 жыл бұрын
@ 6:48, the Canadian policeman says, 'Our job is to protect people'. Well, that's not technically true. Their public 'duty' by law is to uphold statutes, write infraction traffic citations and apprehend law-breakers. Whatever protection they provide is incidental, by arresting those who disturb the peace by commission of statute crime, which in some few limited cases means apprehending those who make violent threats. But of course, since the neoliberal laize fair/reactionary era of Reagan/Thatcher and the War on Drugs, police have increasingly been corrupted by the enormous profits of drugs and collusion with organized crime gangs, selling info and influence, engaging in sideline extortion and running their own protection rackets.
@ginahaley3866
@ginahaley3866 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I like watching this channel having 10-12 ad breaks is rediculous! Kinda greedy don't you think?
@abird2931
@abird2931 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't you use adblock?
@aaronellis6870
@aaronellis6870 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta make some money somehow 🤷‍♀️
@SleepyKev1n
@SleepyKev1n 3 жыл бұрын
Use adblock or move the slider to the end and hit replay boom no ads
@abird2931
@abird2931 3 жыл бұрын
@@SleepyKev1n I've been finding that doesn't always work with some videos, must be they have caught on!
@SleepyKev1n
@SleepyKev1n 3 жыл бұрын
@@abird2931 it's hit and miss I'm starting to hate KZbin cause of the double ads at the start
@MichaelDavis-zf6nt
@MichaelDavis-zf6nt 3 жыл бұрын
Retired just before being arrested. Which I'm sure that means he gets to keep his lifetime pension. Almost like he knew it was coming.
@A6Legit
@A6Legit 3 жыл бұрын
Or they let him retire first knowing he was going down.
@canvan8818
@canvan8818 7 жыл бұрын
Very good reportage. Well done Fifth Estate!
@rehnumajamil2751
@rehnumajamil2751 7 жыл бұрын
Can Van ok I agree with you
@phillipburke2709
@phillipburke2709 5 жыл бұрын
How to learn to think and act like a criminal,put yourself in a desperate situation and see how long it takes until your a ''criminal''.What a joke, it s just people .
@amberbranks4209
@amberbranks4209 5 жыл бұрын
Being a cop means you gotta judge everyone and hold yourself so high up you can never, ever let loose or down, down, down you go! No thanks. I'll just be me
@Blue-xb2xr
@Blue-xb2xr 4 жыл бұрын
It has always amazed me how citizens do not demand change with the policing models. The culture of any organization will corrupt the best intended. Both organizations have an us vs them mentality. The members know a diff model is required.
@gaetana.cincire5821
@gaetana.cincire5821 4 жыл бұрын
The line between good and bad...crosses the heart...So true ! Dixit: Alexander Soljenitsin .
@RickGrimes007
@RickGrimes007 6 жыл бұрын
Great show👍😎
@agentcube5741
@agentcube5741 7 жыл бұрын
A short documentary about two rival gangs fighting each other
@rehnumajamil2751
@rehnumajamil2751 7 жыл бұрын
T White I was waiting for the main person
@honeybsweetnectar1713
@honeybsweetnectar1713 6 жыл бұрын
T White 😂😂😂😂😂😂 truth
@dundem187
@dundem187 5 жыл бұрын
White on white violence. Where was WLM then?
@sticksnstones4357
@sticksnstones4357 4 жыл бұрын
Looked like a cool documentary but refuse to watch something on KZbin that has 40 midroll ads!
@superboy982
@superboy982 3 жыл бұрын
If you skip the video to the end and replay it, you got no ads! Remember it, it will save you allot of time :)
@johnnynitro7523
@johnnynitro7523 3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me....Organized Crime is called Government son..
@adrianjohn.
@adrianjohn. 4 жыл бұрын
the beginning with a coffee is a psychology unto itself extending into a butterfly effect
@kathrynludrick4821
@kathrynludrick4821 4 жыл бұрын
Illegal but not immoral is a justification to cross a line, whether one is a police officer or not.
@peterlightning9235
@peterlightning9235 7 жыл бұрын
They never considered that the outlaw bikers might be good at their jobs as well. So it's not really surprising that they got Roberge to supply them with information.
@dundem187
@dundem187 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Lightning Well, most of them had 50 plus years to perfect their criminal careers. Most people grow out of the gangsta stage by their mid 20s. White boys don't feel like being gangstas until they hit their 40s and 50s 😂
@nowhining5461
@nowhining5461 5 жыл бұрын
Most assuredly..
@ryangrantbeecher2734
@ryangrantbeecher2734 4 жыл бұрын
The bikers know everything.
@elizabethevenson6110
@elizabethevenson6110 3 жыл бұрын
@Devon R B down here we'd call it "knowing ALLL the *chisme*", but i don't know the quebecois equivalent of "gossip/info".
@Del-Canada
@Del-Canada 7 жыл бұрын
I like how it says Walk the Line will return and then it returns.
@rehnumajamil2751
@rehnumajamil2751 7 жыл бұрын
Del lol thats what I was thinking
@ceejay6882
@ceejay6882 4 жыл бұрын
French speaking bikers? They must own Harleys that drive in reverse.
@pololedodo7981
@pololedodo7981 3 жыл бұрын
Why dont you go tell them yourself.
@yamahale
@yamahale 3 жыл бұрын
@@pololedodo7981 We all know they are tough, but why do they ride the wimpiest bikes?
@chais1111
@chais1111 3 жыл бұрын
French Canadian Hell's Angels bikers mean business, look up Mom Boucher
@pololedodo7981
@pololedodo7981 3 жыл бұрын
@BKK they have a place called 'the bunker' in Sorel, Quebec. Good luck.
@JustMe-nf1mf
@JustMe-nf1mf 3 жыл бұрын
@BKK I suggest you look up why even Sonny Barger left the Canadian Hell's alone lol.
@johnleach7879
@johnleach7879 5 жыл бұрын
Superb quality in writing (Kelly) , videos and production (many guys). Has this been offered to U.S. law enforcement? TV networks? There's a need for it.
@FirstLast-vl1uy
@FirstLast-vl1uy 3 жыл бұрын
Nice doc. I thought I've seen every outlaw biker documentary there was. Guess there's always one ya miss
@gailjarvis2592
@gailjarvis2592 7 жыл бұрын
He spent only 27 months in prison - that's all - then he was released.
@SticksAandstonesBozo
@SticksAandstonesBozo 9 ай бұрын
This is the most slept on KZbin channel by Americans.
@audreejamie6751
@audreejamie6751 5 жыл бұрын
I worked with an RCMP officer that had infiltrated the Hells. I watched videos of insane amounts of drugs he had recorded. The videos were crazy asf.
@kennybaez2240
@kennybaez2240 3 жыл бұрын
Of course they used hockey bags for cash it’s Canada
@tondallorodriguez4828
@tondallorodriguez4828 3 жыл бұрын
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@tondallorodriguez4828
@tondallorodriguez4828 3 жыл бұрын
@@TUTENSKENGS what is haram?
@tondallorodriguez4828
@tondallorodriguez4828 3 жыл бұрын
@MisGuided Me They do it all the time...
@timelesskoontah
@timelesskoontah 4 жыл бұрын
Personally if a gangster kills another and no innocent person gets hurt then don't waste tax money to solve it...just let it be ..
@o0GrayMatters0o
@o0GrayMatters0o 4 жыл бұрын
that makes logical sense to me, but that's not a very lucrative business model.
@rayray8687
@rayray8687 4 жыл бұрын
Grey Matters: It’s considered a self-perpetuating social service. The one loser kills the other loser, and then that guy’s brother kills the other guy, who’s best friend in turn kills him and so on. If the police would stop arresting these goofs we’d soon be rid of the lot through reverse Darwinism - elimination of the stupidest.
@o0GrayMatters0o
@o0GrayMatters0o 4 жыл бұрын
@@rayray8687: Yeah, but then how do we justify the absurd spending and increased budget proposal's? It's not like the average consumer will fall for the whole domestic terror threat thing will they? Gotta find a way to allocate these digits evenly so that the average schlupp won't know we're robbin' 'em blind. There's gotta be a boogie man. Boogie men are great for business.
@rayray8687
@rayray8687 4 жыл бұрын
Grey Matters: Yeah, I know. I was just trying to save some tax money, but you can’t fight Wall Street.
@dwelch1051
@dwelch1051 4 жыл бұрын
How do you know if a gangster type did to start ?
@sentio1382
@sentio1382 4 жыл бұрын
Not one informant works one way. Every cop / agent that works with informants give them as well info.
@nodens5593
@nodens5593 4 жыл бұрын
Things can be Moral and Illegal, just like how Slavery was Legal and Immoral. My wife's a lawyer and we've discussed this concept in law, and while its not the job of the police to interpret the Law they are given discretion for that reason.
@HabeasJ
@HabeasJ 3 жыл бұрын
Im not even a minute and a half in, yet I already know the majority of what they're gonna cover in the next 41ish minutes. Thanks CBC!
@antg007
@antg007 7 жыл бұрын
I love that protest by the people. That example needs to be copied.
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 4 жыл бұрын
The politicians DON'T
@marvinmcintosh8201
@marvinmcintosh8201 6 жыл бұрын
Money money money everybody loves money that's the problem where u find lots of money you will fine corruption
@candeffect
@candeffect 6 жыл бұрын
The problem is the love of money. Money is nothing more than symbols of value to exchange for value. 99.9% of lots of money was earned by good people.
@bobbiusshadow6985
@bobbiusshadow6985 6 жыл бұрын
greed is eternal
@paultremblay4836
@paultremblay4836 6 жыл бұрын
marvin mcintosh but cops do lots of money and good retirement
@tomschmitt6911
@tomschmitt6911 5 жыл бұрын
*find
@tomschmitt6911
@tomschmitt6911 5 жыл бұрын
find
@derekweinert7943
@derekweinert7943 6 жыл бұрын
Fifth estate is the best in my opinion. No frills
@jessieheller9049
@jessieheller9049 Жыл бұрын
Everyday I wish my dad never met them my life would of been normal 😕
@jakspratt4465
@jakspratt4465 6 жыл бұрын
I think Roberge was affiliated with bikers before he became a cop.
@sh1tshowgongshowpodcast147
@sh1tshowgongshowpodcast147 5 жыл бұрын
Jak Spratt your right ! 10000%
@pickles3128
@pickles3128 4 жыл бұрын
@@incognito4rico The women look even rougher!
@stevenattanasso2003
@stevenattanasso2003 4 жыл бұрын
@@pickles3128 I agree .... most of those "Biker Chicks" have dicks .....
@trevorbourgeois3483
@trevorbourgeois3483 3 жыл бұрын
The Moral Of This Story Is Never Throw Someone Under The Bus. That You Can Get Thrown Under The Same Bus.😎
@burgersbeansandchips
@burgersbeansandchips 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if Stenhouse is writing or has published a book? He sounds like he's a great and intelligent story teller, a book of his undercover work could be amazing.
@hanniballectormd5569
@hanniballectormd5569 5 жыл бұрын
"Nobody on your police force saw this coming?" What a stupid question smh….
@str8cndian
@str8cndian 7 жыл бұрын
in ontario they would have suspended him with pay.
@rehnumajamil2751
@rehnumajamil2751 7 жыл бұрын
str8cndian really??!!???!??!?!?!?!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!!
@MsAmarg
@MsAmarg 7 жыл бұрын
str8cndian he is being sarcastic
@ve5618
@ve5618 6 жыл бұрын
nova scotia would have arrested bens mother and charged her with assaulting a cop and resisting arrest. and conspiracy and made her take anger management
@maryspencer791
@maryspencer791 6 жыл бұрын
no he's not
@drgreen852
@drgreen852 6 жыл бұрын
Youre right. A hamilton police officer was involved in gang activities and got suspended with pay. He was suspended with over 100k a year.
@AlaskanAndie
@AlaskanAndie 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure where or how far reaching it was, but there was a time when the Hells Angels were trying to create a new reputation, making a real effort to be good citizens, going as far as catching criminals and doing good deeds!?! I wonder what happened?!!?
@JustMe-nf1mf
@JustMe-nf1mf 3 жыл бұрын
Oh they still have propaganda campaigns here in Canada. Clean cut suits & ties driving mercedes etc sometimes, big VERY PUBLIC ride with toys for kids with cancer etc. Obviously just polishing the brand & their cover to anyone who pays attention but far too many people eat it up ugh
@raymondlamirand2597
@raymondlamirand2597 4 жыл бұрын
Ya know what comes after draining the swamp? Filling it back up with crystal clean water.
@Marcfj
@Marcfj 4 жыл бұрын
Bottom-line, the Hells Angels have never trampled on my Constitutional Rights, whereas, the police have violated my Fourth Amendment right and thrown me in jail for exercising my Second Amendment right. So, who do you think I regard as my real enemy?
@daves2552
@daves2552 5 жыл бұрын
Unlike the police,,bike clubs don’t target innocent folks.
@somniumisdreaming
@somniumisdreaming 4 жыл бұрын
Yes they do.
@werewally3156
@werewally3156 4 жыл бұрын
@@somniumisdreaming yes they do
@DanReinfoma
@DanReinfoma 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Sprague you’re an idiot
@Dylan-zf5wy
@Dylan-zf5wy 3 жыл бұрын
Dave sprague I agree with u man
@Dylan-zf5wy
@Dylan-zf5wy 3 жыл бұрын
@@somniumisdreaming how do they target innocent people
@acirka
@acirka 5 жыл бұрын
Vraiment intéressant, merci!
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 4 жыл бұрын
Je voudrais un sandwich au jambon sil vous plait
@luv2umumsue
@luv2umumsue 4 жыл бұрын
Corruption is only one reason cops cross the line. Anyone can be blackmailed or threatened into that. What would we do if family and friends were at risk or secrets twisted to ruin us? Not everyone on the organized crime payroll wants to be there.
@daveyboy_
@daveyboy_ 3 жыл бұрын
Hell's vs R.M meant one thing. Great Blow. 'specially in Verdun. Those were the days
@TeeKoon
@TeeKoon 3 жыл бұрын
Similar to Hochelaga, not easy to work there but with HA I had no trouble ,,,If cazzetta didn' hide in Ontario from an arrest warant, Mom would he have started the war...RM president had so much contacts and he replaced Rizutto mafia chief as referee and was responsible for the peace to end the war!
@misfit662145
@misfit662145 4 жыл бұрын
If drugs where legal, none of this BS would be necessary ..
@mukhumor
@mukhumor 4 жыл бұрын
Err... they are Child Snatchers for the VIP's. If Canada had snipers none of this would happen.
@misfit662145
@misfit662145 4 жыл бұрын
bs
@michelleclements7021
@michelleclements7021 Жыл бұрын
I love love love Mark Kelly. He's handsome and a brilliant journalist. He's my idol
@chodeoriki4113
@chodeoriki4113 3 жыл бұрын
Difference between the therapist and the rogue cop is one tried hiding their true thoughts. Standing the “moral high ground” after being the negotiator in Waco…. LoooooL
@ttfoley8127
@ttfoley8127 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.the biggest criminals are the wheeled out government/experts.
@solangeboudreau6467
@solangeboudreau6467 4 жыл бұрын
The heavy metal music blaring and noisy motorcycle noise makes this unwatchable for me.
@MothaLuva
@MothaLuva 4 жыл бұрын
1:08 Maybe. But some, or many, are born with a certain predisposition.
@lennyfair6177
@lennyfair6177 4 жыл бұрын
I live in the U.S. and love The Fifth Estate. But I was wondering which came first 60 Minutes (U.S.) or The Fifth Estate?
@pauly8442
@pauly8442 4 жыл бұрын
60 Minutes 1968.. The Fifth Estate 1976
@lennyfair6177
@lennyfair6177 4 жыл бұрын
@@pauly8442 Okay, thanks! ☺
@JustMe-nf1mf
@JustMe-nf1mf 3 жыл бұрын
If you like 5th estate you'd also like W5. It's more like 60 minutes
@christopherperry997
@christopherperry997 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, is Montreal CBC gonna get their new building? What will happen to the old one?
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