5 Historical Films That Got the Costumes RIGHT. 🔥

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00:00 Introduction
1:55 Gentleman Jack
8:40 Harriet
11:51 Emma.
15:29 Tulip Fever
18:18 Twelfth Night
19:20 Why period costume design is important & how things are changing
IMAGE CREDITS:
1. 2:36 Portrait of Anne Lister (1791-1840), by Joshua Horner, ca. 1830, Wikimedia Commons commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
2. 2:38 Watercolour portrait of Anne Lister of Shibden Hall. "Probably the portrait painted by a Mrs Taylor on Wednesday 20 and Thursday November 1822" although this portrait is questionably accurate as Anne Lister describes it in her journal as, 'Not at all characteristic.' Wikimedia Commons, commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
3. 3:31 Portrait of Princess Sophie of Sweden (1801-1865), Grand Duchess of Baden, 1831. Wikimedia Commons, commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
4. 3:33 Portrait of Pierre Sériziat, Jacques-Louis David, 1795. Wikimedia Commons, commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
5. 3:59 Portrait einer vornehmen jungen Frau vor abendlichem Landschaftshintergrund, Johann Baptist von Lampi the Elder, 1830. Wikimedia Commons, commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
6. 4:00 Bildnis einer Dame aus der Kaufmannsfamilie Rohde, signiert, datiert F. W. Herdt p. 1833. Wikimedia Commons, commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
7. 4:01 "The heads and shoulders of fourteen women and two men", the Wellcome Collection (wellcomecollection.org/works?... Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0).
8. 7:06 Woman's Dress and Petticoat (Robe à la française), 1765. Los Angeles County Museum of Art collections.lacma.org/node/21...
9. 7:37 The World of fashion and continental feuilletons, 1836. Wikimedia Commons, commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
10. 7:39 The World of fashion and continental feuilletons, 1836. Wikimedia Commons commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
11. 7:40 'Plate 12' showing diagram of sleeve patterns, page 84 of 'The Workwoman's Guide' by A Lady, 1838. library.si.edu/digital-librar...
12. 13:40 Evening Dress, c. 1810 ©Victoria and Albert Museum, London collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O1...
13. 15:09 'Paar am Fenster' by Georg Friedrich Kersting, c. 1815. Wikimedia Commons, commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
14. 15:17 George "Beau" Brummell, watercolor by Richard Dighton (1805). Wikimedia Commons, commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
15. 16:23 The Regentesses of St Elizabeth Hospital, Haarlem (detail) by Verspronck (detail); 1641. Wikimedia Commons, commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
16. 16:23 Le Greco, Portrait de Jorge Manuel Theotokopouli, fils de l'artiste (1603). Wikimedia Commons, commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi....
17. 16:24 Equestrian Portrait of Philip III (detail), Diego Velázquez, c. 1635. Wikimedia Commons, commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
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[@bernadettebanner]

I am a literal trash human being and failed to work the designer of Harriet, Paul Tazewell, in the script of that section. 😵😵😵 Thus herein lies my dedicated Appreciation Post for Paul Tazewell and his team, on that film as well as just generally. You may be familiar with his work on Hamilton--and thus may also have caught my previous analysis of his brilliant strategy on adapting historical dress for demanding choreography!

[@justaname6011]

Do a part 2 in order to redeem that mistake

[@lumis5896]

Stop calling yourself trash - you're an excellent young lady! Thanks for highlighting Gentleman Jack, it's such an underrated series.

[@JcSaulog]

This just means you now have reason to make a part 2 to this video 👀

[@AB-dg4ve]

Please analyze pride and prejudice 1995

[@classicslover]

(raises eyebrow) Nope. Not trash. But...you don't like Jane Austin? Really Bernadette? Is there even repentance for that?

[@alaiahankey4994]

Alternate title: Bernadette finally not raging at bad historical costumes cause they're actually good

[@arakheno4051]

Raging, gushing .. same energy, opposing structure .. always a pleasure to watch.

[@Caroline28483]

Alternate alternate title: Bernadette simping over hands stitching and proper silhouettes for approximately 22 minutes

[@NJ-Cathie]

Love!!!

[@Shcreamingreen]

"Wolf's Hall", "The Duelists" and "The Mill and the Cross" are also worth mentioning for exceptionally accurate costumes and scenography. (I'm posting this comment here so more people can see these films, and hopefully Bernadette as well)

[@tabriscarrillo5525]

The Movie.

[@toriander1080]

I worked in the costume department of Harriet. As the assistant ager/dyer I was the one that sewed those mismatched buttons and patches. I am SO happy you noticed the thought and care everyone put into making sure her costumes told a story.

[@betenoireindustries]

i'm curious as to the purpose of the shoulder/armscye piecing on that striped ensemble. what did that imply? resizing? reuse? very apropos. i've done ten years of extreme aging/dying/distressing for things like wasteland weekend and other theatricals - well done, you.

[@toriander1080]

@@betenoireindustries The designer imagined it would have been resized or torn there if I recall! We all also had problems with the cotton majorly stretching out during the distressing process, to where it no longer the same size as the interlining, but fortunately we had already planned on adding the patches and were able to hide the small tucks under them.

[@edc3665]

OMG THATS SO COOL!!!!

[@--Lissy]

Woah-

[@broganmckoko]

Very cool! So awesome to see someone who worked on the project give personal insight. So am I to assume you roughly. constructed the garment then aged it which led to the stretching?

[@James-gy8sj]

I'll be honest, I'm a 36 year old Dad that started looking for how-to's on girl's winter capes (cloaks) and ended up here. I have an 8 year old daughter and a sewing machine and also love to dress her up. You got me geeking on Victorian style dresses and coats... Might make one for her now (I'm very much competitive). Thank you for this content, love it

[@flygirl6048]

Best dad award!!

[@donagorali5950]

So how did it go....?

[@hunnypie1873]

You got a single bro? 😏😅😭

[@laura-louisetobin6098]

What a great dad!! Learning to sew was so liberating as a teen, making clothes I could never have afforded to buy. Having a parent who sews and can help with fitting and pinning is hugely helpful, and what a nice thing for a father and daughter bond over

[@apprenticelibrarian]

“I really don’t want to hear more moaning about the oppressiveness of historical underwear from actresses like...ever.” It’s okay you can say Emma Watson 👀😂

[@loltadynicneni913]

Well, it's not only Emma Watson, there were MANY more of them.

[@katherinemorelle7115]

@@loltadynicneni913 oh goodness yes! So many! I think the most ridiculous one I heard was Lily James complaining about her (admittedly far too small and tightlaced) corset from Cinderella. She said that it was so tight that she had to have aliquot diet and that it caused her the most terrible stomach pain! Of course, that pain was likely because she didn’t have the good sense to not have Diet Coke as a large part of said liquid diet. She’s wearing a very tight (too tight) garment over her torso, and thought that adding a whole bunch of gas to that equation was a good idea? That was definitely on her lack of common sense, and not on corsets in general. Though because she said it in an interview, people will believe it.

[@mmmirei]

@@katherinemorelle7115 I feel like she should’ve just told whoever was pacing her up to loosen it a little. The dress would’ve looked just as amazing with a bit larger waist, and if Emma Watson has the authority to completely refuse to wear a corset, I think Lily James can tell them to loosen the corset a bit.

[@katherinemorelle7115]

@@mmmirei what with the super huge skirts and the large Bertha, her wait would have looked tiny with absolutely no reduction at all. It just wasn’t necessary. The problem is that a lot of actresses expect corsets to be far too tight and very painful, so they just put up with it, and don’t demand corsets that fit, that are made well, that are seasoned properly, laced properly, and that have shifts/chemises underneath. They just don’t know enough to demand proper corsetry. And then they further the myth of corsets as torture devices, and then the next actress also doesn’t know how they should actually be worn, and the cycle continues.

[@quixoticvalkyrie]

@@mmmirei I think she said that they were specifically trying to get her down to a 17-inch waist so even if she asked them to loosen it, I doubt that would go over well.

Not to give you silly ideas, but The Globe costumes basically deserve a whole video/review on their own 😎

[@rosehirstius]

Hi karolina!! Love you 💜💜💜💜

[@nerdiusgeekius3483]

HEYYY maybe you could make the irene Adler dress from Sherlock Holmes please???

[@naz4488]

Omg hi Karolina! I love your videosssss

[@Hello-kx6tf]

One of my favorite KZbinrs reacting to another favorite KZbinr! Yesss

[@livjones2917]

I really want to do the backstage tour at The Globe again, as each time you go around the tour guides have different knowledge about different aspects of the period and areas of the theatre. It can be so satisfying

[@zoec.4343]

every time an actress complains about wearing a corset, a fashion historian somewhere dies. i think this video brought at least eight back to life

[@bernadettebanner]

-dies- plots world domination 😶

[@spectacularbear]

@@bernadettebanner Bernadette the historical necromancer 😂

[@caligulalonghbottom2629]

Maybe the actresses are complaining because although the real historic stays/corsets wouldn't be very tight and uncomfortable, maybe the ones they are 'forced' to wear in production during very long grueling hours aren't fitted properly and might be far tighter laced than they would really be...

[@zoec.4343]

@@caligulalonghbottom2629 yes exactly the historical inaccuracy of the corsets is what kills fashion historians

[@cometkatt]

@@caligulalonghbottom2629 it was said that Liz Taylor was so tightly laced in taming of the shrew she actually ended up with a back injury..(that and the weight of the clothes which probably werent properly made in the first place) so i could see that being true.

[@KillerCat10]

Having Bernadette switch between her unbelievably articulate, academic speech to “they really went hard with the ruff game” will never fail to amuse me

[@See-.-]

From what I've seen, in Emma. Emma actually repeated several dresses during the movie. All outfits looked different because she combined different petticoats and chemisettes, etc to make them lool different. There is a 33 minute video on youtube by Mariah Pattie analyzing all Emma's outfits, explaing all clothes that was showed in thr movie (from what I remember she only had 6 day dresses and 6 night dresses, 5 different petticoats, so not really that much) As for Emma's hair, I got surprised when you you said the wig was bad, since I thought that it was real hair🤣 I did a little bit of research and I think it was actually Anya's hair,nit was dyed to be a more blonde and I think even her curls were from her own hair

[@roj4169]

She has quite long hair so it wouldn't surprise me if it was her own for the curls

[@jedgrahek1426]

Ha ha ha!!! I came to the comments looking for this exactly, because I was like "what wig?" and "even if it is a wig I don't see at all what is 'so obvious' about it" when she said that. Thank you so much for looking it up and writing what you could find. I'm sure it has more to do with my own ignorance, but honestly I've heard different girls make the same comment so many times in real life whenever a girl in a movie simply has very pretty hair, or long hair, it always "has to be a wig" or "those extensions are so obvious"... again I'm sure they are usually right and I'm just ignorant, but I have to also wonder how much of a role projection and general "she's not actually pretty" type thinking play into those comments.

[@See-.-]

@@jedgrahek1426 I think it depends. I braid my hair, so I tend to look at other people hair often, and it comes naturally for me. So I guess if you're not into hair, you wouldnt mind scarlet witch or black widow with loose hair fighting, but for me it is little bit annoying because It's not practical... also Scarlets wig makes her head form look weird... and in the end it distracts me a bit from the story, nothing serious though hahaha But for sure, there must be people who just comment on hair to critique and be negative.

[@Fafhrd42]

I found an interview where she says that she no longer dyes or bleaches her hair and wears wigs for different productions because for 'Morgan' they bleached her hair from "root to tip once a week for three months" and it nearly destroyed her hair. But an article in Vogue about how they did the look for Emma mentions needing to lighten her hair some, and also goes into the hair care routine used to keep her hair from being damaged by the dye job. It's obviously entirely possible that the Vogue piece is lying a bit in order to advertise a hair product and they did just use a wig, but her natural hair colour is also a perfect match. It's also really common for wigs to be used on everyone in a movie production, because it saves a lot of time in hair and makeup and they don't have to worry about continuity from an actor's hair growing out over a 3-6 month shoot for a movie that takes place over a couple of days.

[@LoriDitchfield]

The only thing I was focused on, that looked wiggy, was the part.

[@dr_ty]

Am I the only one who could watch Bernadette every day?

[@bernadettebanner]

😭♥️

[@BirdLady2782]

No

[@rebeldaigle3035]

You act like I do not... It brings great joy

[@blisles7626]

Very much not.

[@agimagi2158]

In fact I re-watch her videos so often while hand sewing that I do watch her almost every day, and it is always such a joy!

[@graceriley2500]

"Did I make this entire video as an excuse to rave about Gentleman Jack for approximately 5 minutes straight? IRRELEVANT!" Bernadette you are so brilliantly mixed between millenial and proper speech and it never ceases to amaze and amuse me

[@kellyg2635]

FR

[@janellerowe609]

Yes! My favorite thing about watching this channel

[@Superkroolik]

I'd like to add to the Emma's costuming, I really appreciated skin blemishes (especially redness on their faces and chests) and bad teeth.

[@fernagaric2705]

It bothers me that some period movies show perfect skin and teeth. Like???? They didn't have moisturizer cream and charcoal toothpaste back then..

[@namedrop721]

@@fernagaric2705 américain and aussie actors are basically required to have perfect teeth, culturally. I’ve noticed even big name uk stars don’t all have veneers and this contributes substantially to their authenticity in a period film. That said, people did try to take care of their teeth and would have largely unrotten ones unless wealthy(sugar) or destitute (disease). But wine and tea do stain the teeth as does a lifetime, so it would be more period accurate to dim down the most blinding whites in most cases.

[@pjstatenisland1575]

And smallpox scars!

[@cattycorner8]

There is a middle ground, I think. I do not want any attribute to be so pronounced or garish as to divert attention from all else.

[@cattycorner8]

@@namedrop721 I have no quarrel with that, but any stains I have to look at for 2 hours had better contribute to character development.

[@sylvassasalladsbestick1342]

In Tulip Fever, the street scenes are so good! It's not just random people walking around aimlessly. You get the feeling that every single one of them have a reason to be there. Which is great! And like, there's someone riding on a mule - A MULE!! How amazing is that?!? The presence of the mule tells me that someone did their research. If you think hair and makeup is bad in historical movies... Oh boy, do I have sad news for you regarding the horror of equestrian inaccuracies! Knowing and caring enough about historical context and accuracy to find and use an actual mule is amazing, but doing so just to build a more convincing world around the characters? 100/10. Bless whoever made that decision ❤️❤️❤️

[@annef0x]

Bernadette literally glowing while taking about Gentleman Jack gives me life.

[@amandanowicka4009]

My mother, 86, was part of a team of lace makers that made lace for the ruffs for the Globe theatre. Each ruff, she tells me, has 10 metres of handmade bobbin lace. Their lace was also part of an exhibition at the V&A.

[@daniellepages14]

Hello! Would you please tell me what the V&A is? I’m French and don’t know it.

[@the_modern_alchemist]

@@daniellepages14 the Victoria & Albert Museum

[@amandanowicka4009]

@@daniellepages14 my apologies just picked up message. There is also an amazing fashion museum in the city of Bath, a must see for us ladies that love history.

[@bananaborz1]

@@amandanowicka4009 O my! I was in Bath only in January. I wish I had known about this museum 😓.

[@rfresa]

That's incredible. My mom (age 66) has a set of bobbins and has made some lace as a hobby, and it really is an amazing art form.

[@rebeccagoulding92]

I'm so glad you talked about the disheveled hair and dress in GJ. One of the oddest things I find with the entertainment world is how they condition us to believe we need to see elements of period dress in a more modern softened way because *gasp* we just won't relate to the story otherwise. But then they make the characters so unattainably perfect with not a hair out of place despite the fact that they just spent the last four hours on a horse in the woods. We can believe the latter but we can't handle accurate 18 century lip rouge?

[@sherylhartman]

I would like to give you this little tidbit of why the detail of costumes has improved. I was talking to my costumer about 10 years ago while looking at the emperor's blue armor from Gladiator. It was very cheesy and cheap looking up close with off the shelf gold pieces glued to it. I asked about it. He and his assistant Yelled, as only a costumer can do, "OMG (actually much saltier language) HD has has us working so much more, even on the background costumes, because the camera picks up everything now!"

[@cattycorner8]

You have a costumer?

[@zvezdoblyat]

@@cattycorner8 I'm assuming she is a person who acts in plays and such hence, the costumer is the the one making said clothes

[@NovaBrite618]

It’s like old tv shows remastered for modern reruns; everyone’s pancake makeup is so obvious and the sets look so cheap now

[@magnusbane420]

I believe there is one Nickelodeon show where you can see the scrotum of an (ADULT) actor due to HD, I believe Hank or John Green made a short about it

[@NotQuiteSaulsbury]

The parts where she talked about certain characters wearing older fashion than others LITERALLY BROUGHT ME SO MUCH JOY because it not only makes sense but it tells so much about the character in and of themselves. "I am a farmer and don't need a new coat, it's perfectly good as it is." "My dress has a little hole in it but that's okay I can just patch it." "I am disinterested in current fashion and am not in a high enough social class for it to matter so I'll just wear this because I like it." THAT'S CHARACTER BUILDING BOYS

[@helengraves7850]

Even Manhattanites ... I have a jacket from the 1970s and a bunch of stuff - still! - from the 80s.

[@alliem8700]

Or also - "this piece belonged to a loved one who is no longer around, but I wear it because it reminds me of them!"

[@NotQuiteSaulsbury]

@@alliem8700 A worthy addition, to be sure.

[@8arcasticallyYours]

Also, when the richer elements of society had new clothes made for the changes of fashion, servants often received their employers' cast-offs . Thus the lower classes wore the older-fashioned clothing and for a much longer time.

[@carolync21332]

Yesssss like Mrs. Bennet in the 2005 Pride and Prejudice wearing an older dress with a prow front stays rather than the super high bust and empire waist of the more fashionable younger women like Jane Bennet and Caroline Bingley

[@LucyThalangeMezzoSoprano]

So fun fact, I’m actually in Tulip Fever as an extra (one of the singing orphans lol) and no one has seen that film and in my head I was thinking, ‘I wonder how accurate Tulip Fever was... would be weird if Bernadette mentioned it’ and then SHE DID and I SCREAMED. You can actually see me for a few seconds in the footage she chose when Judy Dench is walking passed us orphans sewing!

[@stacyturner8330]

I loved that film. Watched it after returning from Amsterdam and an epic day at Keukenhof scrutinizing the entire park and especially the living tulip museum growing there. It was a wonderful glimpse into the 'Craze' and the whole strange world that came into being as the stock market was essentially invented.

[@BlitzsieLDiscoLSnow]

I've seen the film in the cinema when it was in theatres in the Netherlands. It was amazing. And I really loved the fact that a non-Dutch person had so much interest in our history to make a whole film about one very specific Dutch historicla event. I only heard about the tulip fever as an off-hand comment during history lessons, and I had the Dutch equivalent of A-level history in high school. The clothes were on-point, and really helped to transport me to the different timeperiod. Amazing.

[@medicwebber3037]

That must have been so fun to be in the movie, and then so awesome to have the clothing critiqued by a person you’re a fan of.... and AMAZING to see yourself in a clip of said movie being used by a person you’re a fan of! Lol. Serendipity.

[@LucyThalangeMezzoSoprano]

Bellaen I’m so glad you enjoyed it! The scenes in the convent were filmed in Norwich Cathedral (my home town in the UK). They needed young girls who could sing some plainchant and as Norwich Cathedral had a girls choir it only made sense to use us! It was so fun and definitely not something I thought I would find myself doing as a chorister!

[@LucyThalangeMezzoSoprano]

Medic Webber absolutely! It was so exciting, I’d never done anything like it before... there was lots of sitting around but I do remember one take where Dane DeHaan completely ran into me and grabbed me by the shoulders and threw me out of the way! But of a shock but all in the name of art I suppose! 😂 But you are right, Bernadette’s approval makes all those days of not being allowed to wash my hair worth it!!

[@noobenny]

Does anyone else think that it’s adorable when Bernadette gets excited about the littlest things and details? I completely understand it and it’s so funny to see someone so “proper” in both body language and speech, geek out for a second😂

[@emilysmith2965]

“They went really hard with the ruff game in this film” is a sentence I never imagined that I would hear, but I love it and I am here for it. Bernadette, keep being yourself. You never disappoint. 10/10 quality content.

[@blondeviolet]

I feel like "shiftless corset wearer" should be an insult. Also everything about this video made me so happy. I hope you do more because you do them so well, and then we all get to squee along over historical clothing. I remember noticing in the 90's Little Women (not perfect in historical costuming for sure) the dresses being made over and worn by other sisters which I always thought was a nice touch.

[@FlagCutie]

That's it, I'm adding "shiftless corset wearer" to my bag of insults!

[@d.rabbitwhite]

Let us pair it with randy rainbows act of slipping on his pink eye wear right before verbally eviscerating an opponent, and it thus becomes: Do not make me put on my pink eye wear, you shiftless corset wearer

[@justcallmeteacup4711]

@@FlagCutie Lmao I love that you have a whole bag 😂

[@jenninstitches]

@@FlagCutie I was thinking the exact same thing.

[@FlagCutie]

@@justcallmeteacup4711 well I gotta keep them handy in an easily accessible spot! Lol

[@aadkinsl3095]

Because of you I got into an argument about corsets in my renaissance history lectures zoom chat. We were discussing a portrait of a wealthy Venetian woman (c. 16th century), and someone in the chat said "the corsets must have been the worst" and like, five of us immediately pounced with the "uhm actually corsets (as we know them) didn't exist at that time sdfkajsdhfkajsdfh" I hope you're proud

[@bernadettebanner]

I am beaming 😍

[@aadkinsl3095]

Bernadette Banner thank you queen 🥺

[@sophiaB270]

Yes a similar thing happened to me but with my sister!! She was saying something about corsets I dont remember exactly, but like about them being uncomfortable or something and OH BOY WAS SHE NOT READY FOR WHAT WAS GOING TO COME NEXT. I literally made her watch Bernadette's corset-explanation-thing-video and then priorattire's corset myth-busting videos and went through it and explained it all until she fully understood each detail!!😂😂😂😂😂at least now shes more educated on the topic hahaha👌👌👌

[@princessatarockconcert]

That happened with a friend of mine. She said she learned in a class that corsets were so tight laced women fainted frequently and I was like.....Bernadette and the rest of all women through out history would argue that but okay

[@celenameg]

lol me.

[@jordanblack5608]

I love that you mentioned the Globe's production of "Twelfth Night"! I got to see the production when they moved it to New York in 2013, and one of the coolest parts was the costumes. They even had all of the actors prepare for the show on stage, so the audience could see them get dressed, showcasing the sheer beauty of the costumes as well as the accuracy of how each piece would be layered and placed. I DIED. SO GOOD.

[@uschilou]

Wow, that's a once in a lifetime experience! So cool!!

[@Lespace2]

It is just a pity, that the acting itself has nothing, as I saw it in the view sequences here shown, to do with the accurate acting of the time, the baroque gesture art was completely different to this modern acting.

[@marthabakry7353]

I learned that ruffs were pinned with straight pins from some “mud larks” here on KZbin. They scavenge in the Thames foreshore at low tide, and apparently straight pins are a frequent find. In one video a tangle of hand fashioned ball end straight pins was uncovered from the mud and it was revealed that the pins were likely from the 15th or 16th century and that they were used to pin neck ruffs. I can’t imagine the time and energy that went into pinning ruffs, let alone hand making straight pins, only to have them wind up in the Thames muck. Amazing.

[@kweejibodali3078]

wow thanks for that

[@meeeka]

Sometimes, dresses were pinned together.

[@bloochoob]

I’m waiting on my mudlark licence, you can’t dig deep if you’re not licensed. Lara Maiklem has a great book out on mudlarking finds

[@telliusbian]

"Something extraordinary happens when one's exposed to a thing repeatedly for a period of time. Far from perpetually seeing it as alien and weird for the rest of eternity, most of us adopt a familiar acceptance of said thing and learn to appreciate a little - if not substantial - bit of beauty in it" HUGE AGREE. I used to be a security guard at an art museum and I *hated* renaissance fashion until I was assigned to guard a renaissance tapestry exhibition. And let me tell you - there's no way to appreciate the ridiculous fashion of the Italian Renaissance until you're paid to stare at it for 20+ hours lol!!

[@ashleylantigua2853]

rusalochka wow, it’s the little joys in life!

[@Chibihugs]

Yes, for the 1830s crazy hair amidst the joy that is Gentleman Jack. May I just say that I completely cackled over the titles of "posh blonde chap" and "farm chap". Let them be known as such henceforth.

[@bernadettebanner]

I realized whilst writing the script that I never figured out their names and just decided to roll with it 😬

[@ellenayres4575]

@@bernadettebanner We're so glad you did. It fits with the "some dude" from the corset myths video.

[@consideredwhisper]

Chibihugs The poor beleaguered UK is currently under the thumb and in thrall to said Posh Blonde Chap and it is not boding well for the sundry masses. Woe is everywhere about in these shires: we are undone.

[@felicitygee381]

@@consideredwhisper yes this, just this

[@adiposeNarnian]

@@consideredwhisper can't complain; I'm in Texas, and I've been under the thrall of said Posh Blonde Chap for nearly a decade!

[@katiemoum2216]

I'm very happy you mentioned Emma in this video! The costumes were divine! However, I would like to point out the Anya was not wearing a wig in this movie -- that was her real hair!

[@KalikaXX]

sorry, who's Anya? Are you confusing this with Anastasia (the animated movie)?

[@katiemoum2216]

@@KalikaXX No. I’m referring to Anya Taylor-Joy, the actress from Emma. In this video, she was said to be wearing a wig and it wasn’t good. I was pointing out that it was actually her real hair.

[@KalikaXX]

@@katiemoum2216 Ah, I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about Emma Watson.

[@ladysilkwing]

@@katiemoum2216 She also plays Magik (Illyana Rasputin) in The New Mutants

[@seame3795]

I was going to say this too.

[@christier6843]

P.S. Thank you SO MUCH for pointing out the grating conflict of having modern makeup in period films. It takes me right out of them, and that was even before I started getting interested in fashion history. No dude, your Regency era lady wouldn't have Cindy Crawford eyebrows.

[@michelinanelson-olivieri1278]

Oh my god, small correction: Anne Lister actually wore men's boots regularly! The thing about her diaries is that she was METICULOUS about the details of her daily life, down to her fashion. She writes regularly about buying new garments, having to darn them, and how she adjusted them to fit her personal style. It's fascinating, and something I actually talk about it in my master's thesis on her.

[@SusanYeske701]

See, this is why I like to go through all the comments, gems like this.

[@ashleylantigua2853]

In the room where it happens! Sharing passion for historical dress, I’m totally here for it!

[@Kilgore42]

Would you be willing to share your thesis? That sounds amazing.

[@MikuruChan123]

Super interesting! :O However, I do believe Bernadette's argument of character portrayal is sound. She does also state that the costumers clearly did their research, so even if Bernadette didn't know, the costume staff certainly did!

[@ThePixiixiq]

I would really love to read your thesis too, if possible!

[@_inhisbluegardens]

The untidy hair in Gentleman Jack made me delightedly gasp, "She's got wispies!! Anne Lister's got wispies!!!" As a perpetually messy-haired bog witch, it was WONDERFUL.

[@martynasmerczek1313]

I have paused when you were talking about Gentleman Jack and I thought to myself "well, I have to watch this series"...and I did last night and finished this morning, this was wonderful, I am amazed by the acting and the whole story, it was beautiful, now I'm crying ...thank you

[@ninjarabbit6972]

I love how excited she got over the museum recreation dress moving on a real human being. I'm not even that into this stuff but her pure joy was infectious ^_^ Thank you Bernadette

[@glowingfreezer]

2002: No one will ever need more than DVD resolution 2010: No one will ever need more than 1080p 2016: No one will ever need videos in 4k resolution 2020: Hand-sewn buttonholes! Basting stitches! Lace details! Whee!

[@jeric_synergy8581]

LOL, same: I was thinking: "How GOOD is BB's television anyway???"

[@Alte.Kameraden]

Haha, I wonder if that really has something to do with the increased attention to detail in clothing design?

[@lyndabethcave3835]

It wouldn’t surprise me if the increasing resolution in films is a major factor in more historical techniques on screen. It’s harder to fudge things in 4K.

[@Alte.Kameraden]

@@lyndabethcave3835 No more clothe chainmail like on Brave Heart? =D

[@googlethis313]

Kameraden ,😳!!! NOOOOO!!!! Say it isn’t so! What scenes/part in the movie shows this? I’m seriously rethinking my whole existence because of this comment!

[@victoria-dn2ru]

Movie clothes designers: “We should do this as historically accurate as we can” Random person: “Why, though? Nobody’s gonna notice or appreciate it” Bernadette: “I’m about to end this man’s whole career”

[@gusmonster59]

Loads of us notice. I am not the person to watch a 'historical' movie with. **L**

[@missg.5940]

I always look at the clothes. Sometimes l think,,,what?

[@es4666]

I always notice too

[@neuralmute]

I am HELL to watch historical movies or series with. Even Gentleman Jack, because I just spend all my time swooning over Suranne Jones.

[@Ivecket]

Nobody cares about random person's opinion.

[@alternatetimelinegiyuu6062]

Tbh if I could wear my hair in 1830s styled hair even for a day, I would totally do it. The hairstyles look weird, yes, but they look so aesthetically pleasing imo

[@anastasialudwika]

Go for it! Like, REALLY! I tried those hairstlyles several times in my student years (though I used to show up at my university with all kind of mess on my head, including powder and all kind of flowers, so those who knew me were surprised, but not shocked at all). But it took hours to make even an average 1830s hairstyle, and it took me days to at least get into that routine. I started from cutting my front hair a little bit shorter (for buckles) and than curled those buckles before going to bed, rest of the work were for the morning of course. It was fun!

[@vonvildenschwert3045]

I actually wear men's 1830s hairstyle and everytime I go to the baber I want a cut, I show on some 1830s portrait. Some people want a cut of David Beckham, I want a cut of Liszt or Franz Schubert. Unfortunately I don't have a curly hair, just slightly wawy. So it's more difficult.

[@juliantotriwijaya9208]

"Lower class ladies, could sew stuff too" remember!

[@hobknobcreations4737]

When not entranced by your comments and analysis, I was thrilled to spy your latest witch bonnet atop your mannequin

[@reesekolcow6136]

Ooohhhhh! I almost missed that!

[@grandcarriage1]

I spotted that right away

[@jennhill8708]

And, Bernadette, have you trimmed your hair? I need to take my biotin admixture, as my hair is falling out.

[@EmeraldVideosNL]

Oh! Is there a video coming about it by any chance? I don't have instagram but I take it that's where it's been shown before?

[@laurens7731]

@@EmeraldVideosNL I think she's made a video on making one before 💕

[@wolfinthelight26]

My mom was listening to a pod cast the other day that spoke of the horrors of corsets and their medical “dangers”, so I had to give her a twenty minute rant about how historically inaccurate that was and how the patriarchy had stolen the narrative. I needed to make Bernadette proud

[@ebbezackariasson3736]

@Jessie Jameson bernaheads

[@KristinMoran]

Fansarios?

[@KristinMoran]

Then my mind went off on a tangent that fans could be organized by guinea pig generations. I started watching during the reign Cesario, first of his name.

[@user-om5tv5fd9s]

I’m a bit clueless, so could someone explain what it means that „the patriarchy stole the narrative“ ? How was patriarchy responsible for popularizing the image of corsetry being dangerous and oppressing? I had the impression that it is more widespread on the side that wants to free the woman from that supposed oppression (I’m trying to be careful not to say feminism because that would seem like I dislike it and believe everyone were like that, which is both untrue)

[@NWolfsson]

@@user-om5tv5fd9s Karolina Zrbrovska, a Polish youtuber, "weirdo obsessed with the past, vintage style and fashion history geek, appreciator of old things in general", made a video called "How Victorian Men Taught Us To Hate Corsets: [...]" (link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH_ahaSXo9Vjd9k ). In it, she explores where the corsets' bad rep comes from, starting with epoch satires, mostly by men trying to amalgamate coset wearing and tight-lacing, parodying the reduction in daily papers' drawings, and calling upon a thousand fake medical issues the coset causes to the wearer. It's a 15mn watch, I'd recommend it, always with a grain of salt of course.

[@JB-pi7ii]

Bernadette saying that she doesn’t like Jane Austen just broke my heart

[@LM-ph7oy]

I’m more curious about why, it’s perfectly reasonable to not enjoy Austen (love me some Austen) but it’s often interesting to hear why people don’t enjoy her works.

[@Annie_Annie__]

Same. But mostly because Emma is one of my very favorite books (I love how one minute Emma is so relatable and the next you just want to ring her spoiled little neck, lol), so the film delighted me all the more. I just wish she could enjoy the movie for the costumes *and* for the story and great acting.

[@EllieCopterFTW]

@@Annie_Annie__ interesting! Emma is one of my least favourite for this reason (northanger abbey is just the worst). As I'm getting older I'm enjoying Jane Austen less, maybe because I've been exposed to it so much.

[@MargaretUK]

I don't like Jane Austen either. It's all too predictable and ends up being a tedious slog to the end to read the ending you already knew was coming. If you want something that really is good try Tess Of The Durbervilles, or any Bronte novel and you will see what I mean.

[@qlauraq912]

@@EllieCopterFTW I agree completely! NA was horrible, Emma is unreadable, but I’ll read SnS, PnP, and MP over and over.

[@deeweaver7958]

Absolutely thrilled to see Gentleman Jack top your list. I live within walking distance of her home, Shibden Hall, where they've recently been filming the second series. Can't wait to see it!

[@Vgladstone1]

I worked on Harriet, Paul Tazwell is a genius.

[@christabeljoy2443]

No, corsets and stays are not deadly, but wearing them without shifts or corsets is no other than a deadly sin

[@jezpin3638]

This reminds me to buy a new bra because I think the underwire is trying to stab me in the heart

[@jlin592]

Jez Pin ah yes, bras do that on occasion

[@christabeljoy2443]

Jez Pin haha underwire is literally so annoying 😆

[@schlieffenska]

I am fabulously in love with how passionate and excited you are talking about Gentleman Jack. I dont know that there is much more wonderful in life than listening to someone go off on something they are passionate about. 🥰🥰

[@TheWalkeringFreak]

Genuinely SO incredible to hear you praise Gentleman Jack! It is one of my favourite series and I adored the outfits in it, so it's so nice to know that they're also historically accurate. Plus, you've given me another angle from which to adore the show - the effort put into the outfits!

[@dianithrosa8343]

She’s radiating joy at such a niche thing and tbh I ain’t a seamstress but I LIVE for this.

[@insipidwallflower565]

What I appreciate about Emma's costumes are that she often wears the same dress throughout the day, but makes it appropriate for the time of day by layering and adding or taking away accessories.

[@Bjjbhcoa86]

yes, she has many petticoats with different colours underneath so her beautiful slightly transparent white dresses look like they are completely different dresses :D

[@scoutlaceharding]

They put so much thought into what the wardrobe of a woman of her class would actually look like throughout a year. I don't exactly blame movies when they want to have their heroine in a new amazing gown for every scene, but the layering and "remixes" she does are realistic in a way I find deeply satisfying. I used to be bewildered when I watched adaptations and looked at fashion plates of the era because they make it seem like genteel ladies were changing their entire dress at least 3 times a day, lol.

[@sharkwaffle1582]

4:42-5:12 YES! You absolutely hit the nail on the head! I started noticing this within myself ever since I started watching historical fashion content and I’m so glad somebody said it. Thank you, Ms. Banner

[@vianeyrivera8915]

Wow! I must say, your manner of presentation has left a moving impression on me. Your attention and appreciation to detail is incredible, and your professional approach to historically shut down the idea of only one beauty spectrum leaves me cheering! Your input of people "bringing the clothing to life" brings a new meaning visiting museums (new detection skill unlocked!) and I can't say how much I appreciate having organically learned something new. Thank you.

[@illiengalene2285]

Like my teacher said: Every Shark is a fish, but not every fish is a shark. Everyone tight laced, has to wear a corset, but not everyone wearing a corset is tightly laced. It's as nonsensical as to say: You have heels on your shoes, you ruin your feet from the added height!(if it's a ½in heel on mens shoes)

[@erinoconnor1711]

I liken it to modern jeans... most people wear them, some people wear skinny jeans, some people wear such skinny jeans it interfers with their blood circulation

[@MorganDonner]

I will forever stan all things Gentleman Jack - I loved so many of the elements you mentioned, and am so delighted to discover a few more that I hadn't seen before! 😍

[@Vintagebursche]

This!

[@kittycat3312]

Me too! But it is definitely a show to watch WITHOUT the family.

[@crimsonscarlet5939]

I watched all of gentleman jack with my mum we both adored it

[@desireepetitdemurat8660]

One of my favorite shows ever.

[@kathrynblodgett1969]

Haven't been able to get it where I live yet. Working on it. But I read about her. Some of it was to sad. Being "different" in any time is hard. And harder to have the courage to live your life as you want anyway.

[@MystFox1314]

I'm loving the 7 minutes of you going on and on about Gentleman Jack

[@spailpin710]

I'm late to the party here hahaha Well, as a filmmaker and former costume assistant at film sets here in Ireland, I can assure you we always have doubles for hard-to-find historically accurate (or authentic!) materials. This lace scene you're looking at definitely comprised a very small sample of authentic lace for the tight shots (closeups) and visible garment details, and a much larger sample of cheaper lace for the wide shots, slightly out of focus or just not so much in evidence. :) As always, loved your video! I am not a designer per se, but I love watching you :)

[@genevievelai7079]

Actually in Emma, while she does have a LOT of outfit changes, she does actually wear the same dresses, but they look different because of different Spencer jackets, pelisse's, chemisette's, and different colored petticoats. The first few times I watched it I didn't notice her reuse of dresses because of all the different embellishments that drew the eye, but afterwards I noticed that she does reuse a couple white muslin dresses, the striped blue dress, and a few evening dresses. This is a link to a complete breakdown of everything she wore! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXzdfmyQgpeYfrs And yes she does probably have more clothing than would be historically accurate, but it was fascinating to see how the costumer reused certain dresses while switching other accessories to make it seem like her closet was much vaster then it actually was!

[@jyounghee]

Interesting. Might wanna rewatch again to appreciate these details because when i watched it for the first time i was looking at the interior design all the time and didn't pay enough attention to the the dresses. Thank you!

[@MiljaHahto]

Also if I remember correctly, Emma was from a very wealthy family, unlike some other figures Austen created.

[@DianaHernandez-jf5zo]

Milja Hahto ur correct :)

[@cindland]

First Few Times??? I’m so in love with Gwyneth Paltrow’s Emma, my loyalty wont let me watch the new one yet! I still haven’t recovered from the clip of new-Emm’s father jumping down off the steps. This review may coax me yet.

[@KatieCottingham]

Yes! Being a frightfully detail oriented person myself, I noticed at least 3 dresses reworn in my first in theater viewing (second to last movie I got to see in a theater) and I noticed more in a rewatch months later. The details they had to stretch with things like setting/set dressing, props, and even scenes was definitely made up for in the costuming, and the performances really sold the story better than I think I could've ever imagined. Emma is a movie I'll probably watch again a few more times just because it makes me happy to see and hear the level of detail. That's the thing most people, as usual, overlooked: the sound design. The effort put in to making this *sound* accurate is just delightful. ❤

[@iamamess7522]

Bernadette: inaccurate lace is one of those things that will pull you straight out of the time Me: ...yes. I always get distracted by...inaccurate lace...👀

[@sarahp6512]

ME

[@KD-nd5gu]

OMG same, There was this period drama set in the late 19th-century and they trimmed the lady's chemise with 17th-century reticella lace and I was screaming lol.

[@adiposeNarnian]

Alright, you're joking, but I have honestly seen decently patterned, good silhouette costumes overlayed with that GODAWFUL yardage lace from the 80's.

[@stbananastein]

I got literal goosebumps when I saw the straight pins in the ruff towards the end. Wow. Bravo! Will definitely give that film a watch

[@thelindymckay]

Do a movie on historical period sanitary supplies!!! I'm super curious, and I know you would be accurate.

[@mhschiller714]

So, I'm a hairstylist and something that always makes me sad is when they tame down/modernize the hair styles of the 1800's. Give me wild shapes and odd adornments!!! And now I must watch Gentlemen Jack, because it looked amazing.

[@Ashley-cj6dw]

There is NOTHING like good costuming to make you desire to watch a movie

[@michirukaioh4014]

Excellent costumes, excellent hairstyles, excellent acting (I love when they break the 4th wall), excellent argument. It is easily one of my favourites shows

[@TheMuseAphelion]

The show is fantastic! So well done and acted! Highly recommend!

[@josesolismusic]

Every one of your videos is SUCH A JOY to watch. Your conscientious details are amazing and in-depth.

[@shellbackedup]

I have only caught a couple of your videos, but I can tell there is so much passion in your study and knowledge and I am so happy that you have a way to share this passion with the masses. Keep them coming.

[@ScarlettAstor]

I love that Ann Walker seemed to have an emotional relationship with her wardrobe. Certain dresses are worn for comfort or confidence. The rate at which they repeat seems to suggest certain favourites. Her mental state also seems to effect her hair, and use of accesories. Shawls and heavier collars to armor her. I'm not knowledgeable about the actual fashion details, but that characyer work is wonderful.

[@dearyvettetn4489]

Bernadette: “I don’t like Jane Austen!” Me: 😲Gasping and calling for my smelling salts 😵

[@andreasiegel-salhoff4901]

I had a look of shock and disbelief. There might have been an exclamation of ...What?!

[@c.wright3750]

It’s okay, have you seen her books to read? Lol most of it is trash reading. Ppl like different things.

[@grandcarriage1]

Ditto

[@lisaedwards6621]

Noooooooo

[@kasianawrocka1686]

It was a shock for me...but agree on Emma, this is not the best story ( I actually really dislike it). I was hoping for a Pride and Prejudice analysis from BBC series :(. Love my Jane Austin and could not live without.

[@polinazapolska1017]

Thanks for bringing the Gentleman Jack up, I have fallen in love with this masterpiece thanks to this channel 💜💜💜

[@incisivecommenter5974]

Bernadette, your expertise on fashion history and enthusiasm are a delight. Thank you for this wonderful vid!

[@spamtwins9621]

alt title: bernadette losing her marbles over historically accurate clothing for 22 minutes straight

[@Draegane]

"adequate", historically "adequate" !!! :D

[@TW-xl2lk]

"this is time travel, basically!" Bernadette says, as if she is not already secretly a time travelling immortal who started out as a humble seamstress from the Victorian Era 🤔

[@WoodlouseFairy]

Could be 100% true

[@midshipman8654]

I’ve always been passingly interested in historical dress-wear, you present this stuff with a genuine interest, insight, and entertainment that is really just infectious. great job.

[@calamity2383]

Gosh, you have no idea how much I enjoy listening to you geek out about historical fashion. Something about it is just so delightful! It's 3am and yet I have the biggest grin on my face

[@saracaudill]

I thoroughly enjoyed all the fan-girling, *ahem*, I mean very professional analysis of period movie costumes constructed with respect for the era and story. It helped me appreciate the effort even more, and I think it is wonderful that you are donating revenue from this post to the Costume Industry Coalition!

[@ashleylantigua2853]

So wonderfully contributing to the community we all want to survive during the hardships that is COVID. Thank you Bernadette!

[@scouttyra]

+

[@miawong3411]

Hearing you passionately discuss why things are GOOD as opposed to incorrect was so lovely to watch. While we certainly can't ask or even expect you to make a videos for specific films with your busy schedule, I can't help but wish you used cameo so I could pay for a 1 or 2 minute video with your thoughts on specific movies; your knowledge and insight is just so helpful and infectiously joyful

[@bernadettebanner]

😅 that would involve me actually having seen said films, which is generally not a frequent occurrence!

[@miawong3411]

@@bernadettebanner in a perfect world, with endless time, I would grasp for the opportunity to charge for the time spent watching said movie, of course, with an added surcharge if it was particularly unenjoyable to get through 😁😅

[@harpress]

I absolutely love videos that say "you're doing it right". As much as I respect and appreciate the publics access to information nowdays I am a fan of "build them up" rather than "diss them and shame them into getting better". This makes my heart so happy.

[@infamoussphere7228]

I remember being very impressed by the Dorset buttons (thread buttons) on display in the Far From The Madding Crowd adaptation from 2015. I can't vouch for the accuracy of everything else but I thought it was a very cool detail especially as the film is set in "Wessex", which encompasses the area including Dorset.

[@gayhorrorboy]

gentleman jack is literally one of my favorites!! so glad you went into such depth with it!!

[@sylviat1976]

Don't apologize for historical swooning. It's my favorite kind of Bernadette video. Also, was no one going to tell me Emma had good menswear? Because no one told me Emma had good menswear!

[@bernadettebanner]

There is *t o p s t i t c h i n g* on that menswear. Enjoy 🤩

[@aepfeln]

@@bernadettebanner They are well made to be sure (edge-stitched by hand! raw lapel and collar edges!), but the cut of the coats is not 1815. Frock coats closed with a link were a late Victorian thing, and the armscyes are distressingly modern. I'm baffled by the attention to handwork on such anachronistic silhouettes. EDIT: I'd be delighted to see some documentation for the frock coats in 1815, though, if you happen to know of any. I enjoyed the rest of the film so much that I'd rather like it than not, but I can't get over the men's clothes.

[@Adsin16]

I could honestly spend hours just watching Bernadette gushing over historically accurate clothes. People truly and unabashedly enjoying things, whatever their particular interest is, is some of the purest joy to be found online. Thank you for this video, Bernadette.

[@mirjanbouma]

Indeed! People talking passionately about something they care about us almost always interesting.

[@heatherlowe7330]

I agree!

[@gypsyharte17]

My husband kept getting amused by her reactions… lol he appreciates historical clothing in shoes too

[@charisselouw]

Oh this was a delight! Thank you for your enthusiasm & attention to detail. What a treat.

[@merulava]

I have to mention that I LOVE the image credits you put in the description!

[@Burning_Dwarf]

Psssst in Tulip Fever, the lace was made for the film by hand Dutch& Polish professionals+a lot, and i mean *A LOT* of volunteers How do i know this? friend of mine was one of the volunteers

[@bernadettebanner]

I am not remotely surprised--there's no way lace that true to period could *not* have been hand-made, but it's mind-boggling to think that they actually did!

[@asilverfoxintasmania9940]

Please pass on our thanks to your friend!

[@kimberly_erin]

Yes many thanks for their beautiful work!

[@kostusia]

Omg, can u give me some info on Polish makers mabe? I'm from poland I would sell my kidney to buy some :)

[@Burning_Dwarf]

@@kostusia sorry cant help you there, i know it were 3 elderly ladies from Koniaków 🤷🏼‍♀️ I mean ofcourse because Koniaków Lace is amazing but i dont have the information you seek

[@lisam5744]

Your comment about designers needing to get it right with their costumes struck me. My father was a WWII historian and uniform recreator and was a stickler for getting it right. He was hired to be a consultant on the extremely forgettable John Belushi movie, '1941'. The costumer designer for this movie had put a leather jacket with a uniform. My father told her that that jacket did not go with that uniform and that they (jacket and uniform) were from different branches of the service and would never have been worn together. Her response was, 'We don't care...it looks good'. Yeah, that was my father's first and last day as a consultant on that movie. I'm glad that getting it right is now something that costume designers take pride in.

[@craffte]

Integrity wears so well. You should be proud.

[@cattycorner8]

I actually remember that film.

[@picmajik]

Also some costume designers would get it right but are told by the director/producer/art director to change it due to their ideas of what is appropriate or just want more cleavage. Budget and time restrictions are also factors.

[@cristinamtz.9263]

La dignidad es primero...eso se está perdiendo

[@thunderbird1921]

I LOVE Sergei Bondarchuk's war epics (War and Peace, Waterloo, etc.) for that very reason. The accuracy of appearance and events is INCREDIBLE. You literally feel time-transported to a Napoleonic Wars battlefield. Hands down one of the most underrated movie directors in cinema history.

[@1fan820]

I just really love the way that she says "Irrelevant!" at 2:05. Its amazing

[@GeoTunes01]

This was an absolute pleasure to watch, from beginning to end!!! I am so thankful to find someone who was AS EXCITED about Gerntleman Jack hair and costume as I was ❤️❤️❤️

[@marialiyubman]

I can just picture it now: a dark movie theater, the actress pulls up her skirt, 50 lusty men and one tiny female costume designer moan in satisfaction. 😂

[@kimberly_erin]

marialiyubman 🤣🤣🤣😅

[@stargirl7646]

I just cackled louder than I intended 😂

[@meaganwoolstrum2897]

Hahahaha

[@PassionPopsicle]

There's something really interesting about the changing beauty aesthetics. Someone stated that they liked Rosamund Pike better as Jane in the 2005 version go Pride and Prejudice, because she was "prettier" and Jane is described in the book as really pretty. Then someone pointed out that Susannah Harker, who played Jane in bbc's 1995 series, is way closer to the Austen-era notion of beauty - more roman/grecian statues and less round-cheeked heartiness. I love both versions for different reasons and I find the different design choices really interesting.

[@Windyroller]

PassionPopsicle I actually saw both versions again last week, and it struck me on this rewatch how classically aesthetic Jane in the BBC series truly looks. Pretty sure I’ve seen paintings and statues with very similar appearances.

[@taniaelliott4078]

Yeah that's so true. Susannah is no doubt an attractive woman but as soon as I saw her as Jane I was amazed at the perfect casting. Not 'pretty' by today's standards exactly but the exact type that would have been viewed as womanhood perfected in the Regency period. Her demeanour too.

[@kathrynvincent1563]

I also noticed how most of the actresses are rather soft in the 1995 version and “curvier” while the 2005 modernesque take is very skinny as size zeros with boobs was really body trend at the time. The “curvier” softer silhouettes kind of fit the paintings softness of the time and as someone kinda softer and fatter features, I kind of appreciated it being included. Both are very valid and beautiful btw

[@pansepot1490]

Talking about modern aesthetic ruining a period drama what I can’t stomach in the 2005 P&P is KK’s wig and modern heavy makeup. Studied a lot of period portraits in art classes and a modern makeup/hair in a period setting is as striking to me as a pair of jeans.

[@taniaelliott4078]

@@pansepot1490 I don't know enough yet about Regency fashion but I felt like Elizabeth was styled really strangely in the 2005. She just kept wearing these very plain almost working class kind of clothes while her sisters looked better, with bedraggled looking hair. It was so strange. It sometimes looked like her under clothes it was so plain, a chemise or something

[@ilovemydog6847]

I wish I had found your channel sooner. My mother, who died a year ago would have LOVED your channel. She was a huge history fan and a master seamstress and dressmaker. She used to work for a company called the Irish History Company that was based here in Sligo, Northwest Ireland. She made many period dresses especially dresses from the Tudor times and the 18th century and they ALL had to absolutely historically accurate. They had to source the right fabrics and even make their own buttons as every tiny detail had to be true to the period the dress represented. The one thing she and her work friends made were uniforms for war reenactments even doing some for Americans recreating battle scenes from the American civil war, (their boss was American). When the company folded she was devastated but she never lost her love for the period dress and whenever she saw one on TV she could happily tell you all about it and of course what was wrong about it For instance when the BBC produced a series called Merlin all about the younger days of Merlin, King Arthur's Wizard and they showed Lady Morgana wearing a cloak made of velvet. She gave out about that one I can tell you! 😂 Still I can watch and enjoy your channel in her memory and sit back and remember all about her and the times I enjoyed listening to her talking about this subject that was so dear to her heart and see her smiling and feel her warmth again. So thank you for that and your wonderful channel. I know I will enjoy your videos for more than the wonderful education they give. 🥰

[@theatretexasgirl]

Watching you geek out is so fun! It's amazing that you get to sit down after long hours of comprehensive research and simply GUSH over something you adore.

[@aguzl8604]

I feel that that "the need to appeal to a modern audience" thing is underestimating the audience

[@michellechadima6169]

Yes!! This! Please stop insulting our intelligence!! For me it’s even the same with modern settings where there’s unnecessary gratuitous swearing/sex/nudity/violence. There’s plenty of that in real life, it’s completely unnecessary to make it be EVERY SCENE

[@kimberly_erin]

Completely misreading the audience!! So many movies I can’t watch without grinding my teeth. What’s even the point!!!!

[@Xenolinguistica]

"Authentic" lace is not that rare in Belgium and the Netherlands because it used to be a big industry and there are still people trying to keep it alive. Most of the tourist traps sell machine lace but you can also still see people practising their craft. In Bruges there is a "lace centre" which is part museum, part school, part archive/library

[@missg.5940]

Xenolinguistica l have some pieces of beautiful Belgian lace my mother brought back in the sixties after we lived in Antwerp for three years. I remember visiting beautiful Bruge and watching the ladies making it. I love those pieces.

[@isabelab6851]

Would love to see those! Travel permitting one day

[@Buttercup697]

Thank you for the heads up.

[@miafans6928]

Yes! You have to make sure you find the right shop that sells authentic lace.

[@greca5903]

The way you're so evidently passionate about this had me smiling the entire time. Thank you for sharing

[@MosheFeder]

Your enthusiasm and educated appreciation are a joy to behold. Thanks for sharing them with us.

[@SugarCandyMiniatures]

I'm glad that were celebrating the good ones. Now I know what to look out for and be like. Ah yeah they did it right!

[@LatinaKamilla]

*we’re

[@captainjotunheim1656]

Omg thank you for mentioning the thing about "not everyone steps out of the latest fashion plate on Jan 1" thing! Like so many ppl are like "uh excuse me that lady is wearing a 1880s dress in 1893? Unheard of!" But like, most ppl still prolly wear stuff from 3-4+ years ago now says so why isnt it ok back then??

[@rbck8826]

I wear dresses that are sometimes 5 years old.

[@ragnkja]

My favourite summer dress, which I fully intend to copy when it eventually gets worn out, will be ten years old next summer.

[@mirjanbouma]

I still have and wear shirts and sweaters at least 10 years old. I rarely wear my dresses, so they also last for years.

[@arianewinter4266]

I wear stuff my mother got when she was younger than I am now like a custom tailored leatherjacked, silken chemises and underdresses she got handed down by her mother, long skirts and adressed she feels to old for . . . Some of them might be closer to 30 years, than 3 or 5

[@morningglorymoth]

I own a hoodie from 10 years ago

[@brittanybirdy]

Absolutely adore your enthusiasm and thank you for helping me to be more enthusiastic about historically accurate dress too!

[@katechamberlain5830]

Your joy and excitement about these period pieces bring me joy! I appreciate the appreciation video, we all need that positivity :)

[@LixiaWinter]

Period hair being perfect at all times is same thing as female character waking up in full unsmidged make up

[@EmelieWaldken]

Two of the things which pull me out of a period movie instantly

[@ellisestager4349]

period dramas: *show us shiftless corsets that leave lace marks on the actresses' backs* most people: :o corsets are evil bras today: *leave marks on our backs, ribs, and e w*\ most people: it is was it is

[@carolineorlande]

YES!!! And it's exactly the same reaction when a woman choses not to wear a bra. They get scandalized, point, offend and sexualize the girl. So hypocrites!

[@Idiotsbane]

I used to be a bra fitter, at a store that specialized in larger sizes. And I will be the first to tell you that modern undergarments can cause horrific pain and marks on people, especially when they're ill-fitting! I've seen bras literally scar people. I had people cry and hug me when I got them into better bras. But honestly, some of them would have faired even better with a properly fitted corset or stays. A big problem with even good bras is the pressure they put on your shoulders, especially if you're large-chested.

[@tarynwyatt8731]

@@jackih5502 I agree that these items reduce your need for core strength and thus lead to weakness. I too prefer soft bralettes most of the time. The point here is not that better options don't exist, but that modern women don't make less painful choices on the regular, and when they do, most women look at them as sloppy or skanky, just as they did in the past. I remember being told I was a slut by another girl when I was 12 years old for not wearing a bra to school, like, can you imagine? Which definitely set me on a trend of wearing ill fitted, padded, underwired bras for the next 25 years or so until I decided to switch to bralettes. An older friend of mine also told me at the time that my boobs would fall to my knees if I didn't start wearing a bra, not true. So much suffering and my boobs are definitely not better off for it.

[@professionalcommenter]

@@Idiotsbane I wish I had a corset made specifically for me. My cup size is an L and I would pay to have one custom made for me. I'm also plus size and it causes alot of stress on my shoulders and back.

[@SharmClucas]

@@jackih5502 Is there research to support the claim that corsets are detrimental to core strength? I'm curious, because in my limited experience wearing a corset, my core would get a workout. If I slouched, the corset would press uncomfortably in spots, but standing correctly would evenly distribute the pressure and keep it comfortable. Slouching was also always possible, no matter how tightly laced it was.

[@carolbarber9898]

Bernadette how entertained I was by your critique of some current films costumes. My great- great-great grandmother was a dressmaker in Louisiana in 1880 and her daughter was a dressmaker in both New Orleans and San Francisco. Love sewing and history and movies set in different times.

[@genegreen9613]

Your enthusiasm for your topic makes your video wonderfully enjoyable. Well done!

[@moonlily1]

I too have a pet peeve about the makeup in historical films: if you notice it, you're doing it wrong, except in specific cases where makeup was supposed to be noticed, like 18th century aristocrats with the white powder and paint, carmine lips and cheeks, and fake beauty marks. In the 19th century women would have only used powder and rouge, and these were not meant to be noticeable. They would not have used eyeshadow, eyeliner, or mascara, though some women would have used lampblack on their eyelashes, it would only darken, it wouldn't lengthen on thicken, some people also used burnt cloves to darken their eyebrows, but thick eyebrows weren't fashionable. Lips might have been a little bit shiny because people did use lip salves, but they wouldn't have been tinted or sparkly. In the case of rouge on the cheeks, it would always be applied in a circular shape, because people were not trying to create the look of high cheekbones, which was actually not the beauty ideal of the day, but rather full cheeks like a child.

[@hobbyhive]

One of my favourite hair/makeup failures is Keira Knightley's hair as Elizabeth Bennett in PnP, although Bingley's very 2000's gel spiked hair was rather amusing.

[@moonlily1]

@@hobbyhive Dorian Gray's boy band hair in 'Penny Dreadful' drove me nuts.

[@ElizabethJones-pv3sj]

There are a lot of tinted lip salve recipes in the 19th century, madder root is not an uncommon ingredient and it really isn't likely to help it soothe the lips, just makes the resulting salve red. It's not a strong effect so makeup artists should be aiming for something that looks like natural lips or a tinted lip gloss, not modern lipstick.

[@moonlily1]

@@ElizabethJones-pv3sj Like a sheer lip stain with a little Carmex over it, maybe? But you have to be particular about the color. You'd use carmine, madder, or beet juice, wouldn't you? You'd have variations on those shades of red, and some ladies used a coral pink sort of rouge, didn't they? Philosophy used to make a mascara that only tints lashes without lengthening or volumizing, I think it was from the supernatural line. That would be a good product to use if they still had it. The clear mascara they made in the 90s that was just the opposite, that stretched, thickened and separated without adding any color would also be great for making actresses look better while maintaining the illusion of no makeup, too bad they don't make it. There's actually an etsy store called littlebits I think that makes cosmetics based on historic recipes like Turkish rouge and ground pearl powder, a clove eyebrow tint, it would be fascinating to see a historically accurate makeup tutorial using the actual products down to the lampblack on the lashes. Smith's rosebud salve has been around since 1895, so using it on actresses in films from that time period could really help them get into the right headspace of being in a different time.

[@ElizabethJones-pv3sj]

@@moonlily1 I'm no makeup artist but i think the real deal of authentic historical products might not be up to the consistent standards a movie production needs where you need the actors to look the same for several hours of shooting the same scene. But certainly a good designer who cared about historical accuracy would show the real deal to the MUA who are experts on how to achieve different looks with industry standard products.

[@minatomat]

As a medievalist, one of the most historically inaccurate times perpetrated by Hollywood, I feel the need to point the flawless work in the movie Outlaw King, at least regarding clothing. There are some armor flaws and other things. But mostly it's the best medieval representation in mass media.

[@xxMikumikitakikaxx]

I swooned when I saw that movie. Perfect it was not but good it really was

[@maiasmith3996]

I love that movie! The costumes were great!

[@sorbetsorbet]

Is there anywhere you can watch that film? Id like to see it :)

[@minatomat]

@@sorbetsorbet it's on netflix. Don't know if it's anywhere else

[@xxMikumikitakikaxx]

@@sorbetsorbet it's a Netflix original I believe. In most of the world I think

[@bisibisbi]

I just adore your enthusiasm, Ms Banner!

[@valsptsd814]

Seeing you smile so big isn’t something we get too often. Keep it up, it’s a lovely smile.