Bernie Sanders Interview | Lex Fridman Podcast

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Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep450-sa See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. 0:00 - Introduction 1:40 - MLK Jr 4:33 - Corruption in politics 15:50 - Healthcare in US 24:23 - 2016 election 30:21 - Barack Obama 36:16 - Capitalism 44:25 - Response to attacks 49:22 - AOC and progressive politics 57:13 - Mortality 59:20 - Hope for the future *Transcript:* lexfridman.com/bernie-sanders-transcript *CONTACT LEX:* *Feedback* - give feedback to Lex: lexfridman.com/survey *AMA* - submit questions, videos or call-in: lexfridman.com/ama *Hiring* - join our team: lexfridman.com/hiring *Other* - other ways to get in touch: lexfridman.com/contact *EPISODE LINKS:* Bernie's Website: berniesanders.com Bernie's X: x.com/BernieSanders Bernie's Instagram: instagram.com/berniesanders Bernie's KZbin: youtube.com/@BernieSanders Bernie's Facebook: facebook.com/berniesanders Bernie's Books: It's OK to Be Angry About Capitalism: amzn.to/4fiIqS3 Where We Go from Here: amzn.to/4eUSJMj Bernie Sanders Guide to Political Revolution: amzn.to/3YkVAa4 Our Revolution: amzn.to/40cIbnf Outsider in the White House: amzn.to/3BSfD8u *SPONSORS:* To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: *Eight Sleep:* Temp-controlled smart mattress. Go to lexfridman.com/s/eight_sleep-ep450-sa *Saily:* An eSIM for international travel. Go to lexfridman.com/s/saily-ep450-sa *Ground News:* Unbiased news source. Go to lexfridman.com/s/ground_news-ep450-sa *AG1:* All-in-one daily nutrition drinks. Go to lexfridman.com/s/ag1-ep450-sa *LMNT:* Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. Go to lexfridman.com/s/lmnt-ep450-sa

[@alidanishkarimi8401]

Hello lex I’m a big fan

[@bunjijumper5345]

Hopefully you asked him about his 3 houses. I mean you cant be a socialist and expect others to take you seriously, and have at least 3 houses.

[@mephilees7866]

Go for Judge Napoltano interview next.

[@Blanchfield]

Thank you for this. I don't know anyone else that reads the entirety of a piece of legislation before voting besides Bernie. We are lucky to have someone like this in our political system.

[@HuckleberryFinnegan]

What a brighter& more humane nation we would have been with Bernie at the helm

[@Parad0x0n]

Wow he just answers every question, quite refreshing

[@Jonscify]

Wait, so he wasnt asked about a war and rambled 10 minutes about brown people eating cats and dogs?

[@StressKind]

Which is great but admittedly easier when you don't have to think about being elected or have to justify policies that are a compromise you had to make but are not 100% in line with what you want... But yeah, still good.

[@RustyDustyCrusty]

@@StressKind He was in that position 2 times on the national stage, but he still spoke his mind which cost him the presidency tbh, but he did not care.

[@Turdnado]

It's a shame. He should have been president. America fucked itself for blowing that opportunity...twice.

[@rpnp2]

@@RustyDustyCrusty Let's be real about this, Obama and Clinton cost him the Presidency. The DNC and Democratic establishment ( which is evident that is Obama in 2024) cost him that. Not to mention how quickly he folded was embarrassing to anyone that supported him.

[@fastf1ng4zzz]

growing up in Vermont my dad would tell me stories of when he was a kid. He was young when Bernie was the mayor of Burlington. said he would walk the town. came down his street and talked to everyone asking what issues they wanted addressed. he just wants what's best for all Americans.

[@SoojuuMeup]

Yea we’ll Burlington is a piece of shit now homeless is wild crime is wild small businesses are closing

[@1pardoner]

@@SoojuuMeupfacts

[@DrewHernandezNOW]

Bernies a communist. Communism is based on Corruption and quid pro quo.

[@twister4489]

I want Americans to take care of themselves instead of relying on someone else to do it

[@boomguitarjared]

While I certainly disagree with his socialist mentality ahnd ideology, I can generally respect him as a person as those ideas seem to come from a place of wanting to help people in his specific case.

[@kevley26]

Crazy how in 2020 a key talking point against Bernie was that he was "too old" to be president. And yet look how that ended up with Biden. Just goes to show that the actual cognitive sharpness is way more important than the age. Bernie is older than Biden and Trump yet has a way less declined mind. Could you imagine Biden or Trump sounding this clear in an interview?

[@franekkessler489]

key point is he's an idiot

[@RonyFish]

@@franekkessler489 Your comment reads exactly like an idiot's

[@darkphoenix2]

I don't remember that as much in 2020, maybe it was said more in 2016. But the real reason he lost in 2020 was because people were convinced that not enough people would vote for him, due to his " radical " beliefs. So they went with the safe option in Biden, since they were so scared of Trump. That's a logical fallacy of course. It's like the bystander effect, where you're worried about what the other person is going to do, so you change what you are going to do.

[@gravitygal47]

​@@darkphoenix2 People were voting for Bernie in the early primaries earning him the lead, and then the DNC got scared that he would win so they got all of the establishment candidates other than Biden to drop out in exchange for positions in his cabinet, and launched a media campaign against Bernie labeling him as a communist nutjob. And democratic voters bought it. Bernie had a lot of support amongst conservatives who were hungry for change as well, and it was pretty clear at the time that if he'd had the opportunity to go head to head with Trump, he would have won by a significant margin.

[@ProgWork1]

37:25 it's 2024 and he's talking about "creating a society"... Yeah, he does sound clear-ly lost in the past

[@ChristopherFehrenbacher]

It is impossible not to love Bernie Sanders. What a beautiful human being.

[@CoreyChambersLA]

Very easy to not love Bernie and his push for socialism. Total disaster and guaranteed failure.

[@SoojuuMeup]

He’s a crazy pile of shit 😂 crazy socialist commie 😂 glad he won’t be around much longer Father Time knocking hahaha

[@jacobglau5632]

As a conservative I respect Sanders a lot. All these years he never changed. He has a spine and principles and I can't say that about many politicians.

[@dennisreynolds1341]

Did he have his principles when he supported Hillary Clinton? Come on, like really.

[@JuanGarcia-tb7ph]

@@dennisreynolds1341Yes he understood the time had come where he had to unfortunately choose a voting bloc to align with. It’s politics after all. What’d you expect him to support Trump? 😂😂 that’s laughable

[@nichtsistkostenlos6565]

@@JuanGarcia-tb7ph Why did he have to align with either of them? Why didn't he have the principles to stand against the candidate that cheated to oust him and was supported by everyone that he stood against (billionaires, big banks, the war machine, etc.)? Let's take Ron Paul for example, he didn't support the Republican nominee when they screwed him in both 2008 and 2012. He has principles. Bernie does not.

[@dennisreynolds1341]

@@JuanGarcia-tb7ph Ah ok, yeah you're right sorry. For the sake of politics, just forfeit all your principals to support the person and party that are against everything you claim to stand for. Okay then

[@acarroll6842]

He has no spine wtf are you talking about? He bent the knee to Hilary, he bent the knee to Biden, he's now bending the knee to Kamala. The people wanted him, but the DNC wanted them. He could throw them all under the bus and call them out for their anti-democratic treachery, but instead he says nothing. At least Tulsi, someone who had the guts to stand up for Bernie in 2016, isn't too chicken shit to call them out.

[@helas33]

I genuinely think one of the biggest inflection points in recent history was Bernie Sanders losing the Democratic primary to Hilary. How different things could be

[@elijaprice]

I think the supreme court giving the presidency to Bush rather than Gore in 2000 was the major inflection point in recent history, but yes, it's arguable than pretty much anybody would have won against either candidate in 2016.

[@BackyardBlacksmithing]

@@elijapriceand both times it was a good left leaning candidate that got fucked over

[@aguerrero]

Absolutely. He would have put the clown on his place and speak to the same anxieties of the (white and disempowered) working class in a positive way [as he said]

[@mishakafaka6180]

He would have lost to Trump, people underestimate how off putting socialism can be in America

[@aguerrero]

​@mishakafaka6180 I thought so during my tjme in the US. But my spouse is from the Midwest, Trump territory now. But if you truly know the people, from Chicago to Mississippi, normal people frigging talk like Bernie, but the daily Fox Brainwash get them away from the ideas of Bernie..but at core, same values, same views.

[@TheThunderwars]

Bernie Sanders is insanely consistent and always was far ahead of everyone on policies. I really love that guy.

[@dau4738]

Consistently horrible

[@UnknownYTx]

@@dau4738 Spotted the braindead conservative

[@OneDerscoreOneder]

@@dau4738 what does he say that you do not like?

[@sheep4521]

Then he goes and endorses the same establishment he speaks out against. I’m a former Bernie supporter who has realized he’s running a bait & switch scheme on Americans

[@afrodemon8629]

He's so far ahead he's circled back to the same terrible idea that's been tried and still hasn't worked.

[@lesterlopez3078]

This man got arrested protesting for civil rights in the 60's. He's always been fighting for honest and good reasons.

[@elicampos9747]

Till obama uses Hem as their puppet.

[@helloitsmehb]

That’s the kind of president I would like to

[@rjrseymour]

I saw this guy giving interview where he said he's not opposed to taxing your income to 90%. If you think that's fighting for the people you're sadly mistaken. That's just a communist overreach. The state under this man would be a hell hol

[@rjrseymour]

I watched Bernie give an answer during an interview where he said he wouldn't be opposed to taxing your income at 90%. If you think that's a man for the people and not for a Socialist, Communist State, you're sadly mistaken.

[@helloitsmehb]

@@rjrseymour after the war that was the tax rate for the ultra rich. Obviously that rate would not be for the avg worker. Now we’re in a much worse financial situation but we continually lower taxes and increase spending. inflation has now finally stuck its head out and we question Bernie’s ideas as anti-middle class? It’s no accident why capital gains tax is 15% while working people pay 27% out of their paychecks. I’m not for a 90% tax rate for the wealthy but cmon! Get real when you have the numbers sitting in front of you.

[@luckyluk3865]

The US really shit the bed with Bernie. Agree with him or not, he's one of the few who would actually make a whole hearted effort to make things better instead of filling the pockets of himself and his corporate donors.

[@benw4401]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[@bhough410]

"Making things better" for some while far worse for others. Everything is a trade off and comes at a cost.

[@Jonscify]

@@bhough410 yes. far worse for the executives of insurance companies and multi-billionaires who buy policy with their money.

[@helenachase5627]

And in so doing he would only make things worse. It's been tried, and doesn't work

[@stevedwyer8333]

​@Jonscify Sure, far worse for the billionaires who added trillions of $$$ to our economy. Let's take money away from those who invest into our economy and give more to those who do nothing from their money but consume.

[@SalvationsElite]

This is what makes you great Lex! One day I’m hearing Trump, the next I’m learning about Roman history, the next is physics, LLMs, biology, Bernie Sanders, history of communism..etc. Over the years, your podcast really helped unlock my love for learning and seeking perspective. That’s something I can’t thank you enough for! 🙏❤️

[@ah_helou2845]

Yoooo i miss your COD videos!! Much love❤️

[@bobbyv3]

It's called variety, and there are several podcasts that do this same thing. It's great to have options that aren't just creating echo-chambers for one's ideologies.

[@dahleno2014]

@@bobbyv3🤓

[@stormie.williamson]

Agreed!

[@warehousedave7937]

@@bobbyv3 🤓👩🏻‍🎓

[@sarahphillips8987]

We had our chance both in 2016 and 2020 and we blew it. He was too genuine a candidate for how our society actually is.

[@yanomanches1375]

I think often that the US is getting the representation that reflects our society. Once we stand on better principles our representatives will be required to do so too.

[@sharlow707]

Rigged.. data source relay chains have to be compromised right? Someone owns and makes the voting machines or the boards/chips in the machines, people counting are strong armed too easily. Or even more brilliantly, they just get enough people talking a certain/different rhetoric ( until there is an impass) & the 2 parties will always be at ends with each other The only reason Bernie 'lost' the DNC was because he was too popular not to make it seem close. Bernie had to be seen publicly as a threat, "possibly even beating trump over hillary"... Idk but I bet Bernie didn't want to get mlk'd "If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it" - Mark Twain I don't know how many the oligarchy could raise even in the military industrial complex, but I bet it's faaar less than 300 sum million people with families and neighbors that they care for. People united are far stronger than spread sheets and economic data points (stock market scharade) for corporations and a few families. The ultimately 'wealthy' are holding this thing together with shoe strings and lace... And they know it. Government should be as is a window pane, completely transparent... especially to Public Scrutiny. And the public eye is acquiring the "conception of self"; similar to a test which questions if an animal recognizes itself in a mirror or not. Left or right, it doesn't matter if the fight is rigged. Get money out of politics and let's see a real fight. let the best person win. Like we need to be fighting for humans living 1000 years from now... That could be 10 generations with tech and medical advances. Blue zone people live long and happy lives, and there is no reason we can't let everyone do it. Really we don't just need cars *cough* *cough* ... Tesla's...we need Netherland style growing facilities and stop farming like neanderthals... (Well aware cavemen prolly didn't grow much of anything), but if you look at the waste of water in America's agriculture system compared to the Netherlands it resembles the difference between horse vs combustion engine. Just common sense stuff...people over profits. (Still think it's funny prophets and profits are the same sounding...kinda like subconsciously it doesnt feel good to be talking bad about prophets.. you know, who carry the word of God.. undeniably. unless thee be a heathen and going to hell...or at least twisted by the devil's tongue) 🤦 Just clarifying. Prophets are usually prolly pretty dope and awesome and super nice in a lot or most of ways. I just think it's blasphemous we use the same annunciation for profit, which couldn't have an uglier implication considering the past 300 years or so for everyday people. I mean literally every industry from oil to railroads to nearly the farthest reaches of the imagination... The American dream only exists if everyone can get a piece of the pie

[@davidtrapp7877]

Comrade Bernie Gary Dee: Good ol’ consistent Bernie reprised one of the greatest hits of the pro-Castro Left last week on 60 Minutes. When Anderson Cooper pressed the senator by noting that Castro imprisoned a lot of dissidents, Sanders said he condemned such things. But even that grudging acknowledgment rankled the old socialist, who then rushed to add, “When Fidel Castro came into office, you know what he did? He had a massive literacy program. Is that a bad thing?”

[@lighting7508]

@@yanomanches1375 i disagree I've always dreamed of a multi party America where we can actually see the nuance beyond just broadly left and right blobs. I think if people could vote for more variety we would see many more new ideas in politics. Some bad, some amazing.

[@rayew0621]

one of the first and only genuinely good candidates in the last century

[@conormcginnity1353]

Bernie is a true Patriot. 🇺🇸

[@4kams]

Listening to Bernie Sanders for the first time was a revelation. His passion for the middle class and his humane ideas struck a deep chord with me. The contrast between this interview and Lex's with DJT is stark; I believe that the upcoming generation of Congress members inspired by Bernie will shape our future positively. His vision keeps a ray of hope alive in these challenging times. As always, thank you Lex for your marvelous work.

[@sarahphillips8987]

If you haven't check out his history, he has been speaking the same truth to power since the late 1970s/early 1980s.

[@leviwallace9647]

If he supported the working class he wouldn’t have supported the democrats. He railed against the millionaire ms and billionaires until he became a millionaire. He tarnished his reputation and bent over like a typical communist and took it up the a$$ for the establishment. He will be forgotten.

[@Noobah]

If the DNC allows it, anyway.

[@JobVanDam]

Hes a communist. Regardless of what he calls himself: socialist, democratic socialist etc. the guy is a communist. Ideas are great but theres a difference between an idea and implementing an idea. Regardless of how good an idea is there is the eternal struggle between your intentions and reality. There was a guy who had a really good idea to help everyone and ensure their survival. His name was Thanos and his idea was to eliminate half of all life so the other half could flourish. His intentions were good but his idea was implemented terribly. Bernie wanting to implement communist ideas is the same thing except people usually suffer longer than 5 years before things go back to the way they were.

[@markeverett3917]

There's also a difference between the marvel universe and reality

[@ScubaStevex]

God, Bernie still my goat, “sometimes even when you lose, you win”. The humility it takes to see the world from that perspective. And he’s right I will champion his ideas until my time is up.

[@JM-us3fr]

His legacy lives on in us. I feel deep sorrow for all the people who can't see what we see in him.

[@snaggiz]

He’s truly a force for good. Now this is a politician who really does stand with ordinary working people, always has and always will.

[@Wolfgang_von_Caelid]

"Sometimes even when you lose, you win," this is literally the central teaching of the story of Jesus Christ and Christianity during its infancy: Christ was crucified (a _deeply_ insulting and embarrassing form of execution, mainly used on literal slaves at the time), and yet his message of humility and forgiveness spread until a Roman emperor adopted the belief system and had it standardized into a concrete set of beliefs and practices. And mind you, Bernie is jewish. An absolute treasure of a human being.

[@griffblob]

This man is well into his 80s and still sharp as hell. Go Bernie!

[@MagruderSpoots]

Perhaps, or maybe he was even sharper 40 years ago.

[@setmane9409]

Not sharp enough to know the dnc screwed him over lol

[@worldstar907]

he is over 80 and still believes bill gates didn't do microsoft for the money. lol come on man

[@PankajDoharey]

He had a better chance than Kamala but democrats are extraordinary group of thieves would never allow Bernie.

[@liquidsnakex]

And thankfully will never have another chance to be in office. DNC did him dirty, but accidentally did us all a solid 🙏🤣

[@BWills32]

He could have been finishing his second term. What a different world it could have been.

[@dandanovich6729]

Not really. DNC really showed him that American elites would let an entire country rot rather than allow a single "socialist" into power

[@DFM761]

And we have nobody to blame but the DNC.

[@Rustles]

I wish we lived in a country that was worthy of being led by a man with this kind of character, integrity, humanity, kindness and love for the people of this country.

[@danielbaulig]

He may not be the candidate the country deserves, but he’s the candidate that the country needs.

[@elicampos9747]

Who your ..." good friends " are say clear who you are. Bernie Sanders autentic loyal supporters dignity deserves respect and He's vulgar submissive to evil traitor obama will never be a to ignore fact to decency followers.

[@elicampos9747]

​. How can you trust someone that make secrets agreements with evil traitor warmongers like the rotten DNC LEADERSHIP ?

[@hukunamutata]

He’s the definition of unity

[@frankbrenner4852]

Bro ... agreed.

[@justinlloyd3]

What the Democrats did to Bernie was unconscionable

[@LRM5195]

And he kept supporting them…

[@TechnoMinarchist]

He played along with them. Play with the devil...

[@rzawistowski33]

Made me leave the party

[@KellyTour-d9s]

Bernie bent right over.His words mean nothing. All the times he had leverage,he did NOTHING. He likes talking. Folded like a cheap suit when it counted. Him and A.O.C. can kick rocks,kick cans,kick off...both of you sellouts.

[@kurtpearson2793]

Democrats have no reason to support people who aren’t democrats. Even if they are great people. Your expectation is not justified. (Just my opinion) Bern is awsome but not a dem.

[@rostislavsnyta6429]

One of the best, if not the best, U.S. politician I have ever heard speaking

[@jerrybesch8532]

You need to go listen to other politicians

[@samyb2834]

Were you born yesterday?

[@fahimanwar94]

@@jerrybesch8532 That's the thing, we have.

[@dustbustr123]

@@jerrybesch8532 Seriously, WTF are you talking about? What other politician have you ever heard talking even briefly about the campaign donation shackles that bind every single person who wants to be successful in the higher levels of the US government? Or who is able to actually speak out loud about the wealth imbalance of this country as freely as this man does? If this isn't just some kind of troll post and you actually know of some politicians that are as candid about these issues as Mr. Sanders is, please let me know who they are. They will almost certainly have my vote.

[@badbadgilead2552]

Rashida Ttaib is wonderful as well.

[@Danny.da-nny]

I’m no socialist, but sanders is so authentic man, and honest! I like him very much. He’s got traits many politicians in America today should have!

[@Isaac-nl2et]

Bernie isn't a socialist either, calling these ideas socialism is why they are rejected by people.

[@NoName-h5i4q]

same

[@rpwdcd8780]

He’s not a socialist.

[@sirducky3459]

More so a social Democrat/ Democratic socialist, like with many European parties.

[@Specopleader]

No doubt he's personally, ideally socialist in the closet. But the pragmatic vision and legislations he advocates for is hardly socialism. But restard Republicans will just throw out "commuism and socialism and Marxism" to shut him down. 😂 Idiots

[@michaelbiljon8249]

Not an American, but this dude seems like the best possible candidate for president. It's a shame he isn't running. Pragmatic, warm, seemingly immaculate character. What a gentleman.

[@bryandraughn9830]

No other politician can express his level of reasoning.

[@sarahphillips8987]

We were collectively too stupid in the moment to elect him both times he ran, even in the primary. Our loss.

[@tinaferr]

@@sarahphillips8987the dnc pushed him out, I blame them and not the voters

[@Atlas018]

@@sarahphillips8987 No you voted for corrupt democrat leaders. Honest men like him are not wanted in the shrill pathetic party that suck so bad that let Trump come to power.

[@toddr.lockwood843]

Bernie Sanders was a very effective Mayor of Burlington, Vermont in the 1980s. He won his first mayoral election by 10 votes. In his subsequent elections, he won by wide margins. He served four two-year terms as mayor. Bernie replaced the former city management with bright, masters-level innovators who took the city to new heights. He didn't shy away from sitting down with Burlington's Republican business owners, to get their input as well. He often went door-to-door, asking city residents for their ideas, and not just at election time. When Bernie walks through airports, he still gets a rounds of applause. I personally witnessed this at Chicago O'Hare airport on Oct 14, 2024.

[@bikesnboards91]

It's a shame at this point, I have been a winooski (borders Burlington) resident for seven years. And burly is is unrecognizable right now from what it used to be even seven years ago. I'm a conservative but I respect the hell out of Bernie for being true to his values and staying consistent

[@davidsammataro]

Burlington is no a sithole thanks to the progressive posion this clown instituted

[@danielshaffer2609]

One of my best friends said that Bernie used to shovel the snow from his aunt's home every winter. Apparently he's just that kind of old school grass roots politician. We need more of them.

[@JC-Alan]

I think I can speak for conservatives when I say that most of us wish the Dems were all more like Bernie. Ideas you don't agree with can be debated, and depending on the conversations, minds can be changed. You can't argue with liars and crooks.

[@toddr.lockwood843]

@@JC-Alan Bravo! This country could use 20 million more people like you.

[@sombojoe]

One thing about Bernie Sanders; you can listen to what he said 30 years ago and you can listen to what he said yesterday and he typically doesn’t waffle!

[@C_R_O_M________]

Yeah! Because, only ideologically possessed idiots don't move their stance after failing time after time in the real world.

[@authenticallysuperficial9874]

He's endorsing mass murdering monsters. How's that not a switch up from being a student protestor in the 60s?

[@TheSocratesReborn]

Yes the communism is strong with this one

[@jeremydumoit4487]

Still a commie

[@19AKS58]

Yeah, but he doesn't pretend not to be.

[@CharleswoodSpudzyofficial]

I was a MAGA when Bernie was running back in the day. I've changed a lot since then and I now find his message resonating. Except for 17 dollar minimum wage. I see that as impossible honestly, but maybe I can be convinced with enough education. The point I'm making is that people can change, America can change.

[@snaggiz]

This alone sums up my perspective: if the business cannot afford to pay its workers a livable minimum wage, then the business should not exist.

[@CharleswoodSpudzyofficial]

@@snaggiz If I was running a business, and I could not afford to pay my workers, I would raise my prices to cover the costs. That may indeed cause my business to collapse. On the otherhand, I would probably try to run less persons in my business also

[@youtubeviewer8968]

Neoliberal politicians decided to destroy unions. Now, most workers’ low wages are a result of a lack of bargaining power rather than a lack of productivity. This is why raising the minimum wage would cause a small increase in unemployment rather than a large increase right now. In a perfect world, you would just have all workers in unions and in most cases the union would negotiate for more than minimum wage laws can realistically give.

[@cyberiansailor9741]

​@@youtubeviewer8968Yeah in Austria there is actually no minimum wage at all because everyone who works everywhere is covered by a sector wide union agreed minimum wage even if they themselves are not in a union

[@youtubeviewer8968]

@@cyberiansailor9741 I would give my left nut for Austrian union and housing policy in the US. What a dream

[@StarStrider99]

One of few podcasters who has managed to attract guests from all sides of the partisan divide. Lex is showing us what looks like to engage in politics with an open and generous mindset.

[@Spaghetti-is-gross]

He's not perfect but I've always felt a sense of integrity with how he conducts his podcasts.

[@offspringfan100]

Really, because I feel like I watched a Bernie Sanders 2016 campaign ad. His usual talking points, not much deeper substance unfortunately. I wish Lex pushed him on some of those points which had some really sneaky framing. I used to really like Bernie but the more he speaks the more I see the cracks in his worldview

[@kagyubeef]

Agreed. I subscribed to him today after seeing the variety he gets. I love hearing from both sides.

[@garebaregoof4226]

@@offspringfan100it was the same for the Trump interview. Lex doesn’t typically push back and if he does it isn’t hard. So we are consistent in seeing the unpushed conversation from both political aisles.

[@StarStrider99]

@@garebaregoof4226 Exactly. Unfortunately, that may be the price we have to pay just to hear people from both sides on the same podcast. Politicians might actively avoid interviewers who will challenge them.

[@rosedhillon8322]

Great conversation, Lex, and thought-provoking questions. One day, we’ll look back on Bernie Sanders as a courageous leader who stood unwavering in his convictions. He believed deeply in the human spirit and refused to let greed or envy cloud his vision. His legacy will be one of integrity and humanity-a legacy we’ll only fully appreciate as the world wakes up to the values he championed. His message isn’t fading-it’s growing stronger.

[@RlsIII-uz1kl]

Really? He allowed his nomination to be stolen by those he still backs. They stole our, the American peoples choice and they did it twice. Once with Bernie and Secondly with the stolen 2020 presidential election.

[@TheIllMip]

Well said. I hope there is someone who he can pass the torch to so the message isn’t remembered as a lost ideal.

[@Nostalg33]

AOC has the potential but she started to waver because of the razor thin votes and the omnibus way bills are package. I wish she would be in local politics as mayor of a mid sized city. She would get experience as an executive and be allowed to create her own vision. Of she continues in congress she will have too much baggage because of the way congress works.

[@qdilly7397]

Bernie really cares about America. He’s not a pretender. We failed as a people not electing him.

[@martiendejong8857]

He was sabotaged. He already had the majority in 2016 but they cheated him an then Trump won.

[@martiendejong8857]

They even removed him from the polls because he had more support than the other democratic candidates combined.

[@martiendejong8857]

In 2020 they used an app for the primaries and this app was hacked otherwise he would have won.

[@troyroperiii5698]

Get money out of politics!

[@joshuaesquivel5721]

Exactly! Both the right and the left can agree with that. It’s the establishment in both parties that resist reform.

[@taekvideo]

It's a lot more complicated than that. Money is a form of influence. How do you effectively regulate influence? Should this interview be banned because it's an in-kind contribution? The worst corruption in our system isn't even monetary, one hand washes the other and it's untraceable.

[@davidc.9933]

stop stealing my money for hair brained schemes!

[@FirstLast.....]

Bernie did get money out of politics, made him a multi millionaire, never had to work a day in his life.

[@WannabeFruFru]

Great. Remember that feeling and vote for candidates who don't take money from corporations. If you gotta throw your vote on a 3rd party candidate, do it. We need to stop giving political prostitutes our votes.

[@KonstantinosKarakasidis]

You need more Bernie Sanderses in the US

[@Zephyrus-zj4kn]

@@ladylady6029AOC is his prodigy. She was inspired to run because of bernie and is actually a good congresswoman now

[@YesItsMeGuys68]

Bernie is the ONLY political candidate i ever gave my money to . He's 100% honest and transparent .

[@cwg9238]

no refunds

[@alanwatts5180]

@@YesItsMeGuys68 speaks volumes about your intelligence. Good luck to you ser.

[@jacob6908]

Well Bernie is a politician. He talks about the MIC but also let Lockheed Martin come into Vermont. Cant have it both ways.

[@thebeerhunter98]

@@jacob6908Lockheed brings good jobs for his constituency. That’s not considered a bad thing.

[@JimmyGoldberg-ux8ik]

You got swindled haha

[@john-toregundersen2655]

Listen how Sanders speaks. Compare it with Trump.

[@snaggiz]

He speaks with passion, but also with gracefulness and eloquence. The man’s intellect is as sharp as ever, it seems.

[@phy6geniuxYTcreations]

Incomparable. Trump talks like an infant. Bernie talks as a statesman.

[@lighthouse-lady]

@@phy6geniuxYTcreations LOL, listening to trump speak is like hearing someone utter their first words!

[@orpheus0108]

Try reading a transcript from a Trump rally. It's hilarious.

[@john-toregundersen2655]

@@orpheus0108 Absolutely.. Its very weird

[@ClydeusMaximus]

This is an actual populist as opposed to a faux populist demagogue.

[@kladblok2729]

Haha. A man in the ultra kapitalist US who calls for a more social and equal society is a populist? He is he opposite.

[@snaggiz]

Like said himself, you go and ask ordinary folks on the street and 85-90% of people asked would agree with his policy ideas. Calling healthcare for all a radical idea is ludicrous. It’s a win-win for everyone except big pharma and insurance companies who are used to milking people dry for needing care. If there’s *anything* radical in this whole equation, then it’s the rampant exploitation that these companies are doing of the sick people of the US. It’s embarrassing, shameful and disgusting.

[@bradyoung1714]

makes me so mad that people think this man, regardless of what side of the table you're on, doesn't have your best interests in mind. That is more than 99% of politicians across the board and is a reason to elect him in the first place. He isn't a liar or a fake and he is smart. Cant believe people weren't willing to at least give him a chance at this country for 4 years. This man is the only politician I would even contemplate trusting with my vote

[@K-bob_45]

And he’s still backing the DNC after they effectively held a coup by not having a primary. Not our best interests

[@scottforster8361]

This

[@Ben_Kunz]

I'm Sure he thinks that he's doing what's best for people, but so did Mao, counts for nothing.

[@izaccy]

Remember they robbed him off and gave it to Hillary Clinton, the DNC and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, even in his debates against Hillary, they leaked the questions to Hillary first. It was incredibly arrogant

[@Obey_My_Dog]

​@@Ben_KunzAre you seriously trying to compare Sanders to Mao? Your comment is pointless and counts for nothing.

[@MrPhbahia]

Bernie is so authentic! A dying breed!

[@SkeletonBill]

What a tragedy that we never got to see this guy in the white house.

[@electric4224]

Something about this guy is just so much more chill than typical politicians and influencers. Great interview, Lex.

[@LyndseyPowell]

In my opinion, it's because he's genuine. He's not trying to remember to "stay on message" because he's just speaking his own truth.

[@warcraftarthas]

Donald Trump is a convicted felon. HARRIS 2024

[@222ableVelo]

Bernie is a moron lol. Or he's lying though his teeth. Just like Noam Chomsky. Both essentially communists, using gullible kids like Lex to further their quest for power and control.

[@franekkessler489]

being a clown is easy

[@JeremyHollabaugh]

Very smooth talker.

[@davidhine8870]

turns out he wasnt too old after all. hes still fire!

[@dwaybruss]

2 years older than biden and doesn't miss a beat

[@jerkchickenblog]

what's annoying as shit as talking to democrats on line who say BERNIE is too old, but Biden was fucking fine? WHAT?? i was truly enraged for couple years

[@snaggiz]

The man is as sharp as they come, that’s for sure!

[@VaBellaBeautz]

I have a lot of respect for Bernie thanks for the episode Lex.

[@Cafenick]

Man listening to Bernie speak couple days out before the election it’s sad to think our decision comes so short of Bernie and the genuine nature he brings I love this guy

[@twndomn]

cenk uygur already Told you, and you passionately Rejected the idea that corporations are Not for the benefit of people, here Bernie told you again! Trump and Republicans won’t fix healthcare but to repeal it

[@user-bartox]

The current sitting president is democrat

[@TangWuSnake]

Lol wait, he said that corporations exist for the benefit of people? WHAT? He could NOT actually be that stupid right.

[@athiker111]

The only way to fix healthcare is to end the chronic disease epidemic. We are spending trillions and are getting sicker.

[@mikebottriell3315]

The last 5 minute between these two has so much humanity and honestly really moved me. Watch it and then rewatch it and tell me you dont feel a little less angry, a little more open, and a little more ready to observe the world through new eyes. Great interview overall, thanks bernie and lex.

[@unholy691]

Good morning Mr. Fridman and Mr. Sanders. I am a french Canadian from the province of Quebec. I listened to this podcast with great interest. What Mr. Sanders describes is exactly the system we have in Quebec. It is very expensive but it is a system that is human. I am someone from the center right but in the United States I would be considered a radical left. Quebec is far from being radical but we also have our problems of course. Nothing is perfect in this world but we must try to get closer to it. Thank you for your excellent podcast. Mr. Sanders you are a great man. Another thing, who is the craziest… the one who presents himself as a candidate or the one who votes for him ? Maybe the one who vote for him. Good luck American people.i am very lucky to live in Quebec.

[@njp1539]

Oui...

[@Benezio]

Nothing "human" in a system that allows politicians take your money and control your health. That is one of the reasons why the average Canadian is 30% poorer than his American counterpart.

[@jasonplugowsky3086]

Canadian healthcare is in shatters. Yes if you end up in an emergency room you aren't going broke. In every other way it is broken.

[@Hinderz]

It’s similar in Australia. Things that are taken for granted (or are relatively settled politically) would be considered radically left. Unfortunately our two major parties want to be like their American counterparts which requires them both to take a big jumps to the right

[@unholy691]

Quebecer and Aussie are very similar, they are people who look a lot alike.

[@NoName-cx3gk]

How is it that Bernie can speak so well and seem mentally sharper than most young people, while Biden and Trump struggle, even though Bernie is actually older?

[@TheManWhoCan1998]

kindness keeps the youth!

[@Muskar2]

It's certainly an interesting question. There's probably factors like genes, diet and exercise. And I also think that doing something that challenges you every day helps keep your mind sharp. Additionally, I think it helps greatly if you stay true to your core values, and feel like you matter. I think it's plausible that Bernie has an overall better balance on those metrics than Biden and Trump. But who knows.

[@andysenadbajric]

God Bless Bernie!!! He is a Good Man!!!

[@FromTheAshes0762]

Bernie sanders. Standing on his belief since the civil rights movement and before. Very respectable man even if we disagree.

[@ben52226]

Standing on false hope and having no political power for decades? Yeah great choice, he's really been a public servant beyond imagination. Enacted 0 functional policy for the American people and now he's relegated to a spectator in the cuck chair of the democratic party

[@DigitalSystematic]

What do you disagree about?

[@Maximustard]

He’s playing a role

[@SadieMage]

My thoughts exactly. I am far from socialist but I’d vote Bernie under the right circumstances. He seems genuine, and thinks for himself. Those are the qualities that will actually make a difference imo ❤❤❤

[@ramstrong1961]

Clueless

[@Muzefun]

How can anyone not love & respect Bernie's ethos?!

[@ozgunique]

by watching fox news

[@martymcflyer8487]

Chump repeatedly describes Bernie as the ultimate radical leftist socialist as though any association with him or his policies defines membership to a criminal element of society. That's more than divisive. That's twisted McCarthyism.

[@JobVanDam]

Because hes a communist. Those ideas have never worked. It's like being a white nationalist and saying im not a Knotsee but we should try those ideas again. Also he says he'll stand up to big corporations, big pharma etc meanwhile he can't even stand up to his own party after they screwed him. Twice. And RFK Jr. supporters. And Joe Biden voters. This guy is all talk.

[@rollingage5590]

because someone actually know about economy kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXbPq5KGa7amkNEsi=fULDaRPkBtszfKo_

[@axelbruv]

There are a lot of comments from people who don't agree with his politics yet respect him. That being said, anti-socialist propaganda has had a big effect on people in America and elsewhere. A lot of people care more about buzzwords and labels than they do about what someone actually stands for and says. Sanders seems to, consciously or unconsciously, use the word "progressive" rather than "socialist", which is unfortunate but understandable.

[@Foxcoolsocks-mf8kb]

I am in my last year of middle school I’m 14 and I’m a huge Bernie supporter I agree with all of his policies I’m in a working class family and I think he has great ideas and plan for the future I wish he would of won on 2016 love you Bernie

[@TrevorLarezma-tk2iu]

I wish this was 8 hours long.

[@markma4976]

♥ Bernie. He's so genuine. ❤ Lex for the awesome interviews.

[@C_R_O_M________]

He's a genuine clown for sure!

[@mistermarshall443]

As a non citizen in the US, and I’ve followed US politics for years, this guy was your best chance and you fucked it.

[@jerkchickenblog]

wasn't us bro. it was the goddamned corrupt two party system

[@BrandonDeLillo]

If you listened to what he said, it wasn't us

[@frijolex2509]

nah man we didn't fuck it up. the democrats purposefully fucked it up; they knew how dangerous he was to them...

[@solido888]

Facts.

[@swillia420]

Truth

[@jamesc954]

I will always be proud of the fact I got to cast my vote for this man back in the 2016 primary!

[@DanielKlein23]

I love this man. A life spent truly in service of his country. And all that with a moral fortitude that would put a D&D Paladin to shame.

[@austinkowalski5512]

I’m a former Trump supporter, I feel so bad for not getting behind this guy many years ago. What a treasure Bernie is.

[@LeftWingNationalist]

Then vote Green Party. I wrote in Bernie twice here in PA.

[@11550-o]

​@@LeftWingNationalist I mean, that's just a vote for trump at the end of the day. I vote democrat, and dislike most of the policies. I just know it'll either be Democrats or Republicans, it won't be Green Party.

[@LeftWingNationalist]

@@11550-o Do you. I only vote for candidates that back Single Payer Healthcare and are against funding and helping Taiwan, Israel, and Ukraine.

[@11550-o]

​@@LeftWingNationalist The flaws of the democratic party almost make me sit it out, and I agree with you on their inability to act on healthcare, foreign funding issues, etc. - but at the end of the day, Jill will not win. PA is a swing state, and I'd rather have Kamala for most of her domestic policies. Trump could win off votes for Jill that could go to Kamala, and he would be significantly worse than Kamala, IMO. If you want your vote to go to something besides the trash can, or a 1-2% polling candidate, it's not about being perfect. It's about being the lesser of 2 evils.

[@LeftWingNationalist]

@@11550-o Let's turn to a specific issue. Russo-Ukrainian war I side with DPR and LPR and and im passionately against helping Ukraine. Have you researched this war?

[@oliwestmusic]

The democrats screwed Americans out of a generational candidate. Even as a Canadian it makes me absolutely livid. Edit Nov 6: what goes around comes around

[@bhough410]

It was the corrupt DNC, not democrat voters.

[@captainradio5894]

The democrats are just the Neocons in disguise so they’re not going to let anyone come ruin that.

[@carlkligerman1981]

I’m Australian and still cannot believe it, apropos 2016. And what Sanders did this time by NOT running against the DNC aristocrats for fear of handing Trump another go round speaks volumes of his integrity, and his unwavering belief that his ideas matter far more than himself, let alone any ambitions he may have! A generational candidate, I agree, but a beacon for the generation to come. I think Musk is exemplary of how shrill, hateful and nonsensical the establishment has become as it gasps its last. History will smile on Sanders, he is not only a great American, but a great human being, and will surely, in retrospect, be regarded as a pivotal figure in the history of American politics.

[@realMaverickBuckley]

Yeah imagine if the RNC had the same choice mandate system as the DNC. We'd have Cheney/ Romney versus Kamala/ Hilary types forever.

[@jerkchickenblog]

brother we are all disgusted

[@lilaccilla]

I voted for Bernie 2 times . I would love to vote for him again ❤❤❤❤

[@jerkchickenblog]

i even wrote him in for president over hillary after he got cheated in '16

[@guccioreo356]

I would be proud to call this man my president.

[@jonred233]

I respect that you have people on from all political spectrums!

[@Happinessallmine]

Even nazis? Then you are a Nazi supporter

[@Happinessallmine]

​@@Doran_Krotan ultra right nationalists

[@Happinessallmine]

​@@Doran_Krotan unfortunately i know some of them personally. My own dad finds their ideas righteous.

[@muddymangroves8100]

For me, this was Lex’s best ever interview. America and the world would be a far better place if Bernie was president.

[@dau4738]

Yeah you can stop right there lmao we don't need a communist leader

[@renaissancestatesman]

Than Biden? Maybe. But doubtful. His solution to everything is more and bigger government.

[@agetss358]

😂😅

[@ramkold]

@@agetss358you are brainwashed

[@BoolyK]

@@agetss358when you don't have the brainpower to argue his points all you can do is laugh

[@fefefoesho11]

I’ll never forget what the democratic party did to Bernie in 2016.

[@S-tank_]

If it was up the right he would have been gone a long time ago

[@AmazonEnforcer]

Yawn. Vote Blue.

[@JuanGarcia-tb7ph]

@@AmazonEnforcerThis kind of comment turns people away from voting blue.

[@jeremytine]

@@JuanGarcia-tb7ph voting red is yet worse, which is why bernie still stumps for blue

[@captlanc]

Bernie Sanders' value is not limited to just the office of POTUS. He is a great adviser and he has good strategy in getting bills passed for the everyday man. He just needs the right people in office whom he can push in the right direction. So vote for the ones he endorses in so he could make things happen for the working people. It must drive him mad when people purport to support him and then don't listen to him when he speaks! He has no time for holding onto the past, he is a pragmatic man always looking for the next best solution because he knows lives are at stake. Be someone he respects - and that's not being someone who gives up on the better choice because of past grudges.

[@colettegrubbs1311]

I still love you, Bernie! Y’all don’t deserve this man.

[@OTOss8]

They robbed that man.

[@marianlynch4829]

He let them..

[@jessemiller1219]

Yet he still bent the knee to the people who “robbed” him in 2016 and 2020. He is a coward who should’ve ran as an independent.

[@C_R_O_M________]

He's been robbing the American taxpayer for decades! Karma is a bitch!

[@jcguyrs]

He was a willing "victim", like all the other politicians

[@authenticallysuperficial9874]

Not as much as the worthless bastard robbed us.

[@andreahuh5574]

Bernie has a VISION for PEOPLE and how government should serve them. Refreshing each time.

[@philipgiacalone5605]

Man!, that was a GREAT conversation with a wonderful American. Thank you, Lex. Thank you, Bernie, especially.

[@jfadsojfask]

I don’t agree w him on many policies and ideologically, but I like this guy - sincere, passionate, incorruptible. Truly a unicorn in politics.

[@OliviaMomich9214]

Bernie is the best ;most intelligent, compassionate and logical human/ politician in senate 🧤🧣🥣

[@therobotocracy]

America missed the chance to prove its greatness when it passed on electing this man to our leader.

[@damonc338]

America wanted him. The Democratic party didn't.

[@psychoboyjack285]

This man as your leader would've done nothing. He's a people pleaser. He bowed to Hillary to still have his spot in the DNC. He called the Novo Nordisk CEO because americans were paying 4 digits for the medication that europeans were paying 2 or 3, and then when Lars told him "have you checked the middleman?", Bernie said no and he has done nothing ever since. He has called social democratic and liberal countries "socialists" while claiming he is a hardcore socialist. A hardcore socialist that can't distinguish a social democratic or a liberal country from a socialist one. He's a smart populist. He would've caved in to the pressure mid term.

[@Some.Legend]

Negative. I along with everyone I know prospered with Trump as President and I look forward to Trump winning again next month.

[@Roundwave23]

America missed the chance when the corrupt DNC broke its own rules to make sure Bernie wasn't the candidate. Americans surely were worse off for it.

[@TB43442]

America didn’t pass on it, the DNC did. The wasserman schulz email scandal lays this out pretty well, but if there is still question, a federal court said the same. There was a ruling in 2017 that “the DNC held a palpable bias towards the Clinton campaign” and against the Bernie campaign, they also ruled that it was entirely legal to do so. Don’t blame the American people, blame the DNC who essentially installed Clinton instead of letting whoever the true candidate would have been rise to the top

[@sbtgirl5618]

This man deserves more recognition. You can tell he’s very ethical in his ways

[@heather1506]

The great Bernie Sanders ❤

[@sarahowens3099]

What a thoughtful and insightful discussion with Bernie Sanders. Thank you, Lex.

[@JPB-m7n]

I often hear "you get the gov't you deserve"... We deserved Bernie Sanders, we deserve Bernie Sanders, and one day we will have a Bernie Sanders. I just hope it won't be too late. 😞

[@jrod1591]

Would have gotten it if the democratic national convention wouldn’t have boycotted him.

[@oscarpistorius3710]

We needed Bernie Sanders, but we did not deserve him. Trump is what we deserved

[@bsrhoad]

The President we should've had and deserve.

[@drunkensailor112]

The president you should've had, but didn't deserve.

[@PremierJohnChess]

Nah, as a wise political theorist once said, democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard. At the end of the day, America got exactly what she voted for. On the bright side, there's always room for progress.

[@apothe6]

We need a protege of Bernie to come out and be our next candidate. Integrity, honesty, compassion, forward ideas that help working class people.

[@ssssssstssssssss]

I live in Japan, and there has been a huge scandal about party financing recently. But the truth is, it's child's play compared to what goes on in the US. And barely anyone in the US talks about it. Rather the media celebrates it.

[@jerkchickenblog]

i'm out here too. watching my old home from afar.

[@toddshampine]

Awesome interview. Bernie is so genuine. It’s so refreshing.

[@liamgell]

First time hearing this man - so far enjoying it… writing as a Brit with an open unbiased mind.

[@Meton2526]

He is a charismatic fraud. All of his words are carefully chosen to obfuscate the real intent and detriment behind what he advocates. The more you hear of his ideas, compared to what we currently have, through the lens of a competent understanding of economics, the more you realize he would be the worse president we've ever had.

[@jojonesjojo8919]

He's basically a standard UK or European politician. In the USA they consider him a radical

[@liamgell]

@@jojonesjojo8919 I agree! His points all make complete sense when aligned with this side of the world.

[@Meton2526]

@@liamgell Good, then go to those other countries, and keep that socialist nonsense out of the USA. Not that you were correct to begin with, because he covertly advocates for policies that are MUCH more extreme than even European countries have, but he obfuscates it behind double-speak to fool people into thinking he just wants capitalism with welfare programs .... which is what the USA already has.

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@liamgell They all make sense untill you realize that Europe is so weak exactly because of these kind of policies this professional clown advocates for. Europeans are so dependent on the "daddy state" that have the economic literacy of first graders. Hence they interpret their current state of affairs as "a working system" until it fails miserably and with a crash (see end stage Social democracy in Greece and elsewhere). I read that the NHS system is basically bankrupt and so is the pension coffers of many public funds in the UK. The wall is coming!

[@SebastianSkadisson]

This interview was great, all the questions on point, all the answers making perfect sense of the reality we live in and deal with, thank you Lex Fridman and Bernie Sanders.

[@buntjohn]

I'm still bummed about 2016 and how he got screwed. Things could have been so much better right now.

[@chapllc722]

I agree. Had he run against Trump, Trump would have won by even more of a landslide. Oh well, we’re about to again here in a couple weeks.

[@jessemiller1219]

Yet he still bent the knee to the people who “screwed” him in 2016 and 2020. Coward should’ve ran as an independent, considering that he is an “independent” on paper.

[@marcod5027]

still, vote harris and campaign her from day 1. only chance that things might get better

[@derekmoody1358]

​@@jessemiller1219wrong

[@mikegotchy007]

Bernie Sanders- We must tax the millionaires and make them pay their fair share. He becomes a millionaire now it’s like we must tax the billionaires and make them pay their fair share 😂

[@alightthatnevergoesout]

I'm a lot more conservative than I was when I supported Bernie in 2016, but I will always respect this man. A man of true conviction.

[@ThriftyCHNR]

So you transitioned from controlled opposition to mainstream

[@calilugas_psychiatrist]

just out of pure curiosity, would you be supporting Bernie now if he was running instead of Kamala?

[@czarnick123]

@@calilugas_psychiatrist I would. I voted for him back then. I wont be voting for Kamala.

[@pseudoname3159]

I differ in that I am a lot more progressive than I was around 2016, and although I've left the Democratic party as an independent progressive (basically what Bernie is in ideal), Sanders has always had my respect and support.

[@alightthatnevergoesout]

@@calilugas_psychiatrist nah, don’t trust any Dems on the border

[@zachcouch8654]

I miss Bernie Sanders.

[@indorseable]

Bernie Sanders fights for the people and America should be thankful for this man. Thank you Bernie for all the ideas you have fought for. We need more politicians like you.

[@TeddyFitz]

Awesome guest

[@C_R_O_M________]

Only if you are deluded to the core!

[@carbonlibertyorg]

Wonderful! My favorite podcast ever! Wisdom, love, courage and respect and honesty all together! Thank you so very much!

[@PlanetHugger]

yes, share all the topics the legacy media can´t and won´t air. Thank you for a greater future!

[@nl_kripp]

What a pleasure it is to listen to this guy. 83 but still sharp as a tack. Let's be honest, it should have been Bernie. Not Trump, not Kamala, not Hilary, not Biden. Bernie.

[@ThracianTrouble]

Just a reminder that Fall of 2024 was supposed to be the end of President Sanders second term. Peace in Europe, peace in the Middle East.

[@bhough410]

What do you think the US's debt would be with 8 years of Bernie as president?

[@cax1175]

​@@bhough410 You know it skyrocketed under Trump right?

[@stevedwyer8333]

Give me a break. How would have Sanders defended Ukraine or the innocent people slaughtered by Hamas?

[@undrgrnd734]

@@stevedwyer8333 maybe using ukrainian lives to fight our proxy war agaisnt russia isn't the best option? At the risk of sounding like a russian bot. Ukraine war is our fault. Look up lex's interview with john mersheimer. Innocent people slaughtered by hamas. Bro do you think bernie waves a hand and all the killing in the world stops? Man all yall... Imagine if we had bernie for 2 terms. We would have had the most progressive supreme court, we would have maybe... .depending on if we could win more seats in congress.... medicare for all, and we could have had money out of politics. Although all these are kind of pie in the sky dreams..... I feel like if you look around the world.... we could have done it. We just needed the people.... mobilize the people to back bernie then congress will listen.

[@PhilHarlow]

@@bhough410a hell of a lot better than where it is now

[@johnnykline2072]

A great appreciation for all the work Bernie has done

[@MarksmanSpecialist]

money does not buy happiness but it does reduce your worries

[@_Oilspill_]

The only credible politician that actually cares about the people of this country. Thank You Bernie for your countless decades of public service.

[@vrana21xyz]

The best leader we never had

[@nailil5722]

a literal communist?

[@Vaeldarg]

@@nailil5722 If you think that you have no idea what a communist is. The ghost of McCarthyism, is that you?

[@jt-tv8zb]

Good b8.

[@joshuajohn8870]

@@nailil5722 bro if you think Bernie Sanders is a communist you have a mental illness. Can you even define what communism is?

[@qadr_]

@@nailil5722 If you truly believe that he is a literal communist, then you need to read and learn more what democracy and communism is. Bernie is a center politician in Europe, he is not even left.

[@theodoreleproux3373]

What is very nice about your podcasts is that you have a real heterogeneity of guests (politics, businessmans, historians…) 🤝🏻 Keep rocking

[@spurezurko]

Exactly. And all of political spectrum covered at that. Not like Rogan who went full brainworm and conspiracy

[@Killa234]

​@@spurezurko😂😂😂

[@landokhan]

Thank you Bernie for genuinely caring about the world, and being brave enough to fight for realistic solutions.

[@ronin1648]

realistic? lmao

[@Gwith126]

@@ronin1648 What did he say that wasn't realistic?

[@ronin1648]

@@Gwith126 health being a human right, for example.

[@Gwith126]

@@ronin1648 How is that not realistic?

[@ronin1648]

@@Gwith126 needs are not human rights

[@ellemay9740]

Thank you so much for doing this interview! This was such a great interview. I really hope Bernie Sanders inspire many more young leaders.

[@RodrigoLobosChile]

Such STATURE. Very few senators from democratic countries achieve global recognition. Bernie 🥰 is one of them

[@csatahu9162]

As a european I truly struggling to understand that one of the best economy on Earth still don't see that public healthcare is a right and benefit for all

[@connorhoffman4760]

The right wing here is genuinely brainwashed. They willfully ignore reality and have been tricked into actively supporting policies that hurt them. You can see it in so many of the commenters here.

[@astraltiddies]

a good bit of americans are not believing of just food and water being a human basic right lmao

[@ZoobTheElement]

That maybe why they are the best economy on earth, and not europe

[@Psyc0ps]

Largest economy on earth. Not by any means the best.

[@2ChainsMC]

@@ZoobTheElement Theres an argument to be made that public healthcare could actually better the US economy. Many people here in the US are stuck in certain jobs or careers because they need it for healthcare coverage. Having a public healthcare system would incentivize people to pursue their true aspirations which could potentially create a better economy. You also have to factor in that small to medium sized businesses are hurt financially by having to supply medical benefits to their full-time workers. Having a public healthcare system could ease financial burden on those businesses which would likely allow them to expand and help the economy even more.

[@QueenV14]

Only an hour?

[@C_R_O_M________]

An hour wasted!

[@Rem694u2]

He's gotta go steal some shekels from a newborn. lol

[@clintongilley842]

Gag me. I listened to way too much 🤢

[@seanupton709]

Agreed, especially the bit about Martib Luther King being 'good' and getting money/lobbyists out of politics! What a repulsive man

[@jerkchickenblog]

@@seanupton709 lolwut

[@geolosophizer7293]

Loved this conversation!

[@ssonationsports7064]

Lex you have the greatest channel on KZbin I must say

[@basilharrison3071]

Thank you senator Sanders! Would have loved for this to be 2.5 hours plus

[@Sam-we7zj]

I cant respect Lex enough for bringing on Trump and Bernie in the space of months. Fav podcast by a mile.

[@michellevacarciuc500]

He’s been hinting in other podcasts (Peterson) that he hopes people see through interviews and that 1 hour alone isn’t enough to determine psychopathy. Trump’s interview is 1 hour. I think in his own way he’s trying to “right a wrong” after the trump interview by bringing in Bernie