Best 140 Hand Cannon For PvP? Destiny 2 Into The Light

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ItsJustSideways

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@tcritty2812
@tcritty2812 6 ай бұрын
The austringer slander is wild
@warriorgoat5939
@warriorgoat5939 6 ай бұрын
It’s blasphemy. I have a god roll rose with slide shot and ep and an enhanced god roll austringer. On controller, the austringer is the winner. It’s not always the best for a stick guy to listen to a little mouse user.
@Odinataa
@Odinataa 6 ай бұрын
@@warriorgoat5939I actually thought the same with the Slide shot/EP roll but as soon as I got a slideshot/OP it made rose feel FAR better than Austringer
@scottparrott5674
@scottparrott5674 6 ай бұрын
Yeah must be mnk player. Controller Eyasluna and austringer id better than mnk.
@exxy9931
@exxy9931 6 ай бұрын
@@scottparrott5674 I can't speak for mnk but I play console and Eyasluna is the winner for me, Austringer being the runner-up and Rose is 3rd for legendary hand cannons.
@Cameron00
@Cameron00 6 ай бұрын
Ace has insane neutral lmao wtf. It has third eye, top tier range, and insane flinch, literally what more could you want, especially on M&K. Videos like this truly show how subjective destiny 2 pvp can be. I appreciate the detail you put into this video, it’s fun to see what other think is top tier as I disagree with almost everything you have said. Cantata-45 is also the best HC in top tier comp imo. Origin perk can be permanently active and the insane Flinch resistance from it pretty much guarantees every duel I take with it.
@theveryamericaneagle3657
@theveryamericaneagle3657 6 ай бұрын
Exalted truth has that same orgin trait an has better stats an a very good dueling combo of killing wind an encore don't sleep on it.
@Cameron00
@Cameron00 6 ай бұрын
@@theveryamericaneagle3657 need compulsive reloaded to really maximize the origin trait, not sure if exhalted gets that roll
@theveryamericaneagle3657
@theveryamericaneagle3657 6 ай бұрын
@Cameron00 why not just put a reload mod on your arms? Or run the warlock arms that give you better handling an reload.
@Cameron00
@Cameron00 6 ай бұрын
@@theveryamericaneagle3657 because dexterity mods and conduction mods are very useful and I prefer other exotics like briarbinds over Ophidian’s aspect. Or I’m simply on my Hunter or titan
@otisdriftwood7094
@otisdriftwood7094 5 ай бұрын
Yep, Cantata has very competitive perks and you can focus it at the gunsmith now. I got one now with EOTS and Moving target but I am going to keep focusing for an opening shot one. 76 range on mine with decent stab and handling. Moving target adds 10 aim assist too. Has a good general feel IMO.
@benjaminavila1026
@benjaminavila1026 6 ай бұрын
Non Origin Trait Palindrome with Killing Wind and High Impact Reserves, especially with the new changes is my best feeling handcannon, the sound alone is just best all around!
@tcritty2812
@tcritty2812 6 ай бұрын
Exalted Truth with killing wind and eye of the storm is for sure my current fav for 140’s
@bradyyoung5840
@bradyyoung5840 4 ай бұрын
same
@otisdriftwood7094
@otisdriftwood7094 5 ай бұрын
Rose can be enhanced now. I just enhanced my 70 range slideshot explosive payload roll.
@froseph3970
@froseph3970 6 ай бұрын
The Hawkmoon disrespect is crazy! Agree with everything you else though!
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
It’s alright brother man, I know you’re out there. And hey, I hit 3 paracausal 1 tap clips in that vid just so I could express my opinion without anyone getting the idea i was just a hater who doesn’t know how to make the weapon work haha.
@froseph3970
@froseph3970 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways it’s not for everybody I’ll admit. I just enjoy the win condition it provides, particularly in slower games of 3v3. There’s situations where you can break a stalemate with a 2 tap as well (which is a lot easier to make happen against better players) Also being a transversive warlock I would totally understand not liking the gun as it basically ruins it
@otisdriftwood7094
@otisdriftwood7094 5 ай бұрын
@@froseph3970 Not really, I run Tsteps with Hawkmoon all the time. I just swap weapons when running and slide more because sliding doesn't activate Tsteps.
@titanicjack6744
@titanicjack6744 6 ай бұрын
I’ve never been a hand cannon person but for some reason I find Luna really easy to use in pvp and I don’t have a good pvp roll yet. I’ve just been using my pve extended, light mag, slideshot, incandescent, range mw roll
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Lunas is easy on controller. Difficult on mouse and key.
@frogcatdog
@frogcatdog 6 ай бұрын
My QuickDraw rangefinder Palindrome still puts in work, no origin trait required.
@ricardooliva8916
@ricardooliva8916 6 ай бұрын
Fr, the fact that it’s an stat monster edges it from the rest
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Pali has always felt amazing, it’s just not competitive with the perk options currently. I still enjoy using it too, and agree it can put in the work. But it’s entirely eclipsed by Lunas and rose right now. Again, it seems likely that it will get a perk refresh soon and come back into rotation. I’m guessing with the first round of GMs after final shape. And as soon as it’s back you bet your sweet ass I’m farming for a Groll and making a vid for you.
@SuperRaids13
@SuperRaids13 6 ай бұрын
It’s unfortunate that rangefinder doesn’t do anything anymore
@heman2379
@heman2379 6 ай бұрын
@@ricardooliva8916edges them in what? It’s fs not better lol
@ricardooliva8916
@ricardooliva8916 6 ай бұрын
@@SuperRaids13 it actually does, it increases accuracy and aim assist when ADS
@Red_AIert
@Red_AIert 6 ай бұрын
Xur has an Accurized, Slideshot, Opening Shot Annual Skate RN. Not as good as the one’s in the video but pretty solid. Thanks for the video.
@frogcatdog
@frogcatdog 6 ай бұрын
That is a solid pick, thanks for the heads up
@surebuddyguardian2121
@surebuddyguardian2121 6 ай бұрын
already scored over 200+ kills in one day.
@otisdriftwood7094
@otisdriftwood7094 5 ай бұрын
I picked that up, I wish it had a range masterwork though.
@TheMatrixxProjekt
@TheMatrixxProjekt 6 ай бұрын
I play the best with Kept Confidence. Not sure why, just feels really really good.
@KazeSenseii
@KazeSenseii 6 ай бұрын
Before the new maps released my Ace had 30 kills on it. In this last week however I’ve gotten over 1000 kills on Ace in just the new territory mode alone
@BirdNoise77
@BirdNoise77 6 ай бұрын
Another great Midnight Coup roll is moving target + zen moment. 100 aim assist for free just feels so good, it's incredibly sticky. But explosive + zen moment is probably the most optimized roll. The flinch from an explosive midnight coup is honestly just insane, if you've ever fought one you know lol
@GooshyG
@GooshyG 4 ай бұрын
as someone coming back to destiny and trying to learn the meta again, this vid was exactly what i needed! very well explained. thanks!
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 4 ай бұрын
It makes me happy to hear I helped! You’re very welcome, enjoying the crucible.
@ShinTwoPointOh
@ShinTwoPointOh 13 күн бұрын
solid video! iv been having "hand cannon identity issues" and this helped
@Ben-go4ex
@Ben-go4ex 6 ай бұрын
Probably one of the best destiny related videos I've watched in a long time. Now subscribed and I look forward to more content. Thankyou my dude
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Aww shit, that means so much. Thanks homie!
@ogchiefb
@ogchiefb 6 ай бұрын
Midnight Coupe was my fav gun of all time back when it dropped, its still lowkey #1 but I dont have that godroll Rose yet... and Thorn i just run whenever i feel like using Thorn
@MethodePyro
@MethodePyro 6 ай бұрын
Thanks to the algorithm i found your channel. Amazing videos you make with actual positioned opinions from someone that actually plays and cares for the game. Keep it up!
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Yo it’s working! Glad you found the channel my guy.
@ricardocorreia1373
@ricardocorreia1373 5 ай бұрын
Each week, I farm for rose, 7 rolls a week. Only one slide shot explosive payload, the worst stats you could imagine. But I’m used to it, it’s the same for matador64. If I want a gun, bungie won’t let me get it
@CWaffles7
@CWaffles7 6 ай бұрын
The thing people seem to overlook with hawkmoon is the easy two-tap potential, especially with an holster mod reloading without deleting paracausal stacks. Onetaps are nice to have, but i dont know how often the two tap won me a gunfight. Also with 93 base aimassist + eye of the storm you simply can't miss. Best handcannon together with the ace.
@Kallosar
@Kallosar 6 ай бұрын
How many holster mods do u use to reload it quickly enough?
@CWaffles7
@CWaffles7 5 ай бұрын
Sry late answer, one is enough for me personally.
@frogcatdog
@frogcatdog 6 ай бұрын
thorn catalyst needed slideshot. When hawkmoon becomes craftable, I hope they add slideshot.
@frogcatdog
@frogcatdog 6 ай бұрын
Chaperone catalyst should be slideshot, no land beyond should have slickdraw.
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Hahaha chaps had such a history of being busted, more range from slideshot would set the sandbox on fire.
@max73916
@max73916 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsidewayschap already has 100 range, slideshot would be worthless
@lollygirl39
@lollygirl39 6 ай бұрын
for aces neutral you said its bad but having constant radar is helpful while ADSing
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
That’s a very fair point and something I forgot to mention. However, if you’re playing at a competitive pace, you won’t be spending such a large amount of time ADSing that you would benefit from the always on radar. It should be the minimum amount of time ADS for the kill(s) and then back to movement/repositioning and scanning the radar to inform said movement. So not really a big benefit to aces neutral game for me.
@Dragoon200022
@Dragoon200022 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways even in high level matches its beneficial to occasionally hold angles which happens fairly often when you have map control and arn't just team diffing the opponents and just running it down, third eye is extremely helpful to prevent tunnel vision in those cases also the gun just has really high base range without any need of a one off/proc'd perk to extend it.
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Fair opinion, different play styles. I’m not holding angles as much with an HC. That style comes out for me when I’m running a pulse.
@jamesgill9223
@jamesgill9223 6 ай бұрын
I got the god roll rose and on console the recoil pattern feels off, I guess it’s personal preference but my Pali is still king
@fardboi9781
@fardboi9781 6 ай бұрын
thank u for giving fatebringer the respect it deserves I have the same adept roll with accurized, corkscrew, and range mw FUCK I love it. Have a ton of kills on it too
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Yessir, it’s earned it.
@albertopena80
@albertopena80 3 ай бұрын
What happened to Not Forgotten? I stop playing back in 2018, but recently started back up this month
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 3 ай бұрын
Currently, nothing other than all the old sunset weapons (not forgotten included) have been brought back into the game. So you can get an old roll and use it in trials. Though lunas howl has been refreshed with new random rolled perks.
@BiggusWiiggus
@BiggusWiiggus 6 ай бұрын
Rangefinder + moving target on Eyasluna has felt the best to me as of late.
@aidyn2873
@aidyn2873 5 ай бұрын
if you haven’t tried it, give eye of the storm + zen moment a try
@BiggusWiiggus
@BiggusWiiggus 5 ай бұрын
I have tried it, but Eyasluna still has maxed out aim assist and feels great at all ranges.
@antimatics759
@antimatics759 6 ай бұрын
Think i agree with your top 3 - it still irks me how accessible luna's is like you mentioned. It's such an easy to use weapon imo that is super strong at the same time and especially a good choice on rollers (not throwing any shade to controller users at all). Luna's also has an intrinsically snappy feel due to the archetype so lower handling doesn't really affect it as much as I thought. This way you can spec almost full range without worrying about harming the stowing and swap speeds. I use rose with slideshot and eots (no os yet sadly) just because it feels really good. Slideshot enabling you to hit the first crit easily just makes 3 tapping really smooth. I've been gunning for a groll ever since it launched and have played almost every week but the I think I'm happy with my roll for now. It's unrelated but one thing that's being bothering me is connections - when I play in peak times I find 3 tapping on point but once I match users outside my continent the feel of the weapons significantly deterioates.
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Trust me, I’ve been seeing the connection issues too. Also bad matchmaking in terms of team balance. Keep your eyes peeled for a video from me talking about the biggest things the PvP strike team needs to fix.
@antimatics759
@antimatics759 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways nice I subbed :)
@max73916
@max73916 6 ай бұрын
i prefer eos on rose
@adamstaples9158
@adamstaples9158 6 ай бұрын
I’ve never used a handcannon like the new Luna’s (since d1 thorn/last word). With opening shot and eye of the storm plus high stability, the 3 taps are so incredibly free as compared to any other handcannon I’ve ever used. The range is a bit lacking, but the precision recoils pattern is unreal on console.
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Huge controller weapon for sure, lots of hate from other creators about Lunas on M+K. Though I think it’s incredibly effective if you understand how to work with it. It takes a lot of time to build that confidence though.
@adamstaples9158
@adamstaples9158 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways I definitely agree that the recoil pattern lends itself to console. I also need to farm out the slideshot mag howl roll, I didn’t know that transversives lets you keep your precision kill stacks and I also main warlock, so thanks for that 🤝
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, more warlocks. I rarely take off transversives in PvP.
@otisdriftwood7094
@otisdriftwood7094 5 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways I never take off Tsteps in pvp.
@sylicaa8618
@sylicaa8618 4 ай бұрын
while it is your opinion, hawkmoon is literally BIS with no competition other than ace. it does so much more without relying on kills and is so much more fun, one tapping supers or anybody with a HC is hilarious. it has perk options unlike ace, the exotic perk covers every stat besides stability, unlike ace if you stow it you don’t lose progress, even better with kinetic holster allowing it to always perform at its peak, less setup for two taps. better stats, better feel, better play making potential just for landing headshots, again i see no competition
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 4 ай бұрын
lol I’d take slideshot rose over hawk moon every day of the week
@1201vitinho
@1201vitinho 6 ай бұрын
Agreed mostly, but I think meta diverges a bit on controller, also, maybe worth mentioning not forgotten being unsunset? Good contender on mk, not that good on controller
@christiandiehl1623
@christiandiehl1623 6 ай бұрын
Great video! I hope your channel keeps growing, you deserve it.
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Thanks homie
@SharkdYGO
@SharkdYGO 6 ай бұрын
A template of all the HCs mentioned would've been nice
@Daemonic6
@Daemonic6 6 ай бұрын
I personaaly using 3 HCs TLW with Elsie, Luna's Howl with Revision Zero or scout, Hawkmoon with or Elsie Ekilos SMG.
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
I don’t understand this comment, The Last Word is a shotgun…. ;)
@Daemonic6
@Daemonic6 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways 225 rpm slug hip fire shotgun
@SpazzAB
@SpazzAB 6 ай бұрын
Why no mention of lumina??
@exxy9931
@exxy9931 6 ай бұрын
Brave of you to say the unintrusive recoil animation for Luna's is a learning curve.
@theveryamericaneagle3657
@theveryamericaneagle3657 6 ай бұрын
On pc yes on console no.
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
You a roller player? It’s brain dead easy on controller, not that way on m+k.
@Hiriku1
@Hiriku1 Ай бұрын
I thought i was the only one adept pali just feels so off so slugish an ttk feels significantly off did get stealth nerf??exalted truth feels amazing even tho its practically the same weapon hopefully pali regains its glory someday
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways Ай бұрын
Pali lost its edge with the rangefinder nerf. I’m sure they’ll bring it back soon with a perk refresh.
@2008_honda_civic
@2008_honda_civic 6 ай бұрын
Any hunter hand cannon controller tips
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
I’m 100% m+k. But lunas has more AE from its precision frame, slap an Icarus on there and pair it with speedloaders and you can get back to the old ways of abusing the vertical movement that favors hunters. Maybe take eye of the storm in 3rd column to help with accuracy cone and a decent amount of stability on the lunas without compromising range. At the end of the day the kit is one thing, but learning the play style is another. Watch lots of hunter mains and you’ll start to understand how to behave. I’ll get some hunter hand cannon footage for my next vid and you can watch that too.
@im4fiend
@im4fiend Ай бұрын
3:02 no one calls it that💀
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways Ай бұрын
You must be new here
@otisdriftwood7094
@otisdriftwood7094 5 ай бұрын
A new 140, Better Devils from crucible. Strand.
@christophercluster728
@christophercluster728 5 ай бұрын
Fatebringer is probably the worst out of the bunch Rose- a hunter speciality(free 2 tiers of mobility+ ss opening shot) Austringer-controller speciality- can get high range and high stability with eots and zen moment the gun doesn’t flinch and doesn’t miss Fatebringer- don’t bother imo good base stats Ace of Spades- and the most bang for buck at basethe godfather of hcs, high skill gap for controller players with low stability, but once you get it you got it. High range plus 3rd eye and memento Mori means you stomp everything. Hawkmoon- skill gap in bottle high base stats means you can take it anywhere. Lacks overall slaying potential in 6s. Thorn- the best hc in the game when the perk is active. When the perk isn’t active it has a little bit of everything plus utility with the poison(tracking and negates recovery) to keep it competitive Lunas howl-another controller speciality but instead of it being for dueling it’s for slaying. Has decent base stats but is carried by its frame. Cantana, exalted and Pali-forgotten artifacts that still put in work can get high stats just missing dueling combos. Eyasluna- a worse version of Austringer unless you are a stasis slut. Kept confidence-the best feeling due to its size or lack thereof
@sylicaa8618
@sylicaa8618 4 ай бұрын
you are garbage if you think hawkmoon “lacks” in 6s where you have MORE heads to shoot, like what..?
@Blank_INI
@Blank_INI 6 ай бұрын
The zen moment testing has already been done explosive payload doesnt make it count as two hits for zen
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Pls send me the link, if true, to the testing.
@quisquous
@quisquous 6 ай бұрын
I feel like the annual skate and cantata god rolls are better than some of the 140s on this list
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
I don’t, that’s why I left them out.
@lollygirl39
@lollygirl39 6 ай бұрын
NF with Zen moment and mag howl > Farming for a 5/5 Lunas
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
I don’t blame you, stats on the NF from the exotic/past weapon kiosk are solid. And the un-sunsetting makes it actually usable come Final Shape. Though I will say slideshot is one hell of a perk.
@lollygirl39
@lollygirl39 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways i agree, i havent been able to get the slideshot roll ive been looking for. over 700 coins spent :( . great video btw
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Brutal RNG, I’ll pray to RNjesus for you. And thanks homie!
@ItsVoltali
@ItsVoltali 5 ай бұрын
Yeah you’re gonna have to rip my adept Pali from my cold dead hands
@austinrock7636
@austinrock7636 6 ай бұрын
so if you really recommend luna's on mnk what would be your exact 5/5? I haven't got lucky enough to get slideshot+mag howl but if I do I wanna know just to know lol
@slayer6346
@slayer6346 6 ай бұрын
simple max range and fluted is great barrel option bc of its slow handling
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 5 ай бұрын
Max range without compromising stability, I would take smallbore, high cal, range MW, slideshot, and mag howl. If you’re willing to give up flinch potential you can go ricochet instead but you’re getting a nice stability pop from slideshot so I’d still take high cal.
@austinrock7636
@austinrock7636 5 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways hell yea I got all that but the barrel is ext barrel, its pretty good but I was thinking smallbore would be nice too, or even hammer-forged instead of extended, for no handling penalty
@otisdriftwood7094
@otisdriftwood7094 5 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways I got a hammer forged or full bore, with ricochet, range mw and Slide with Precison instrument. It's exactly what I wanted.
@ruban379
@ruban379 5 ай бұрын
Luna's howl is easily one of the easiest to use. The visual recoil is non existent so it's easy to keep sights on target .
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 5 ай бұрын
lol try on m+k and come back to me
@alzy2327
@alzy2327 5 ай бұрын
Ace fell off since health change because mori doesn't 2 tap anymore without radiant and everyone has 6+ resil
@lordshaxx2516
@lordshaxx2516 5 ай бұрын
The hawkmoon slander 😭
@CholzizGaruda
@CholzizGaruda 6 ай бұрын
Your austringer roll is not working for you because of fullbore. Ik that 61 stability seems like enough, but you still have lots of accuracy cone growth between shots. 65 is the stability number where hand cannons stop having accuracy cone bloom between shots, so your followup shots are ass. Zen moment reduces flinch and *VISUAL* recoil, but does not stop accuracy cone growth. You are gambling on hitting your 3 tap or just dying. Change to Hammer-Forged rifling or ricochet rounds to get that stability back and I promise austringer will feel miles better.
@CholzizGaruda
@CholzizGaruda 6 ай бұрын
I have 5 fully crafted austringers and use all of em pretty religiously I promise stability does matter a ton on this hand cannon
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
I just saw a cammy vid today where he pulled out a high stability austringer too. Will recraft, and make a follow up vid.
@SimpleSpartan
@SimpleSpartan 6 ай бұрын
So kept confidence isnt any good for pvp? Lol i use it almost all the time and its pretty much my favourite handcannon aha
@itzSaLva.
@itzSaLva. 6 ай бұрын
you showing up with palindrome and not exalted truth both being void has hurt my feelings :( exalted with perfect float + eots slaps!
@imthatguyace9948
@imthatguyace9948 6 ай бұрын
exalted truth is soo good. I have a bad one and still soo good. Not sure why but it clicks.
@BombStars
@BombStars 6 ай бұрын
Between rose and fatebringer I’ll always pick fatebringer. It has more stability (which is something to consider on handcannons as it reduces flinch and helps with the recoil), doesn’t rely on one perk to be useable or even competitive, and imo it has perk combos I prefer over rose’s. Glad I got one when I had the chance.
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 5 ай бұрын
Bro what are you smoking? It’s gotta be straight copium. Do you even have a 5/5 rose?
@BombStars
@BombStars 5 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways never bothered to get it since i got timelost fatebringer . But even if I did, rose can’t get 81 range and 65 stability off of raw stats so :/ unless I wanna run faster on hunter, I don’t have a desire for it lol
@shaunjames5086
@shaunjames5086 6 ай бұрын
I still have the original rose with only outlaw
@kasendavis3785
@kasendavis3785 6 ай бұрын
Bro is glazing the fuck out of lunas howl, it’s also more geared towards controller because of the recoil, it’s not a high skill gap weapon, also the recoil is based off of 180s like he mentioned in the video and 180s feel easy to use on controller
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Don’t let me borrow any of your guys’ Lunas. That shit will come back so sticky you won’t be able to pull the trigger.
@primeofl3378
@primeofl3378 5 ай бұрын
so igneous not being talked is criminal
@aidyn2873
@aidyn2873 5 ай бұрын
the list is about 140’s
@LennyHarbauer
@LennyHarbauer 2 ай бұрын
Lunas owl is the best in my opinion
@Frosty_0415
@Frosty_0415 6 ай бұрын
perpetual motion snapshot eyasluna >
@waymentL
@waymentL 5 ай бұрын
acc good vid sweet mentions
@lunarstrikeok9756
@lunarstrikeok9756 6 ай бұрын
Hawk is a stats monster tho 😤
@jimgoad8177
@jimgoad8177 6 ай бұрын
The controller slander is wild
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Sorry, I just dislike it. There’s already too much AA on M+K.
@alex62965
@alex62965 6 ай бұрын
explosive payload doesn't double proc zen moment
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
But it in fact do, 1 stack per impact/damage number
@alex62965
@alex62965 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways it makes sense on paper but it has been proved that it doesn't work like that in game
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Send me a link to the proof, top PvP players are still saying it double procs zen. As far as I understand it counts as two shots/impacts.
@chaosdogma4259
@chaosdogma4259 3 ай бұрын
Ace of Spades.
@warriorgoat5939
@warriorgoat5939 6 ай бұрын
What IS a hand cannon? That is the real question.
@supersizesenpai
@supersizesenpai 6 ай бұрын
Me every morning when I take a piss. 🤣🤣
@Ayo_zak
@Ayo_zak 6 ай бұрын
Great video but don’t disrespect rollers, some of us play on console and thats our only input device. Maybe next time I’ll subscribe.
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
No disrespect, I just refuse to touch that input device.
@SamStraker
@SamStraker 6 ай бұрын
You should do it with pulses ngl
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Oh man, I play with pulses so much. Would be happy to make that vid.
@TeaBags0614
@TeaBags0614 6 ай бұрын
where spare rations (jokes aside, good vid)
@imthescrubjay
@imthescrubjay 6 ай бұрын
Nah Imma stick to my waking vigil with like 3000 kills on it. Because I hate Luna so much
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
🤷🏻‍♂️
@denny8422
@denny8422 6 ай бұрын
Sunshit my beloved 😭
@thepurpdoesthework
@thepurpdoesthework 6 ай бұрын
Wait wait wait exalted truth adept is STILL very meta Ive got a 5/5 corkscrew, accurized, range mw, eye of the storm rangfinder. This gun is a better pali with huge flinch resist from just reloading with suros synergy. Rangefinder is still A tier if u have a high range stat which mine has a stupid 85 with adept range. It has 66 stabil (threshold for good recoil on 140’s) and 63 handling BUT it becomes 100 with suros synergy 100 handling and massive flinch resist for JUST a reload is crazy and NO other hc can do that. My 5/5 rose is still my fav but this comes second no questions asked. I am on ps5 so that may affect y I feel this way. U didnt even mention exhalted truth like HOW BRO?!? 😂😂😂🎉🎉
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
Go see my other reply in the comments, I laid it out for another guy.
@thepurpdoesthework
@thepurpdoesthework 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways ok I read it but I just 100% disagree but thats the beauty of life we all have diff opinions. I still slay in ascendant comp and crucible with it so for me its good. I do understand y u have that opinion tho. I mean I NEVER see it anywhere in crucible save for like 1/100 games or somthing. I think its a dark horse even after the power creep. Rose is still goated as *bbeeeeeeppp* tho and it doesnt make sense for a controller user since the stabil is kinda bad but perpetual motion SAVES lives on roller. Also a VERY slept on perk. U just strafe for 2 seconds and boom 30 stat points 10 stabil 10 handling 10 reload from just the first stack. So cracked. Love the vid tho Im a handcannon FIEND 😂 😂
@max73916
@max73916 6 ай бұрын
@@thepurpdoestheworkperp motion is goated but i always feel pressured to keep moving even when i shouldnt, also slideshot also gives better free stats for sliding
@thepurpdoesthework
@thepurpdoesthework 6 ай бұрын
@@max73916 Ik exactly what u mean there are some times where u have to play a corner or somthing and ull loose the stacks but my playstyle is a lot of moving so it just works for me. It hit me recently that this perk is heavily playstyle dependent like if ur bunkering up with a barricade waiting for ppl to push ur not getting anything out of this perk. Although I will say that there r times that Ill just keep strafing at a corner and ill still have perp up even for those “slow” moments when ud loose it normally its def a mental adjustment to keep moving ur left sticc to keep the stacks up. I can see this being hella annoying on m&k tho. Im still shocked this perks isn’t talked about more. Its insane. Slideshot is just such a one trick pony like for me its so jarring going from that amazing slideshot stabil into a straight 55 stat ya know? Its feels like ur crusin on a catilac no bumps then all of a sudden u hit a deer or somthing. Like after that slide ends u have nothing. I do understand y m&k loves this perk but for roller I think there r better options.
@Viper_17
@Viper_17 5 ай бұрын
Idc what any1 says austringer is the goat I cannot use any other 140s i got got god roll rose and others but nope austringer the best
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 5 ай бұрын
You can bring a horse to water…
@SynchroFPS
@SynchroFPS 5 ай бұрын
whadabout eyasluna
@karandeepsingh6977
@karandeepsingh6977 5 ай бұрын
Exalted truth :(
@hulland9161
@hulland9161 6 ай бұрын
good vid keep it up
@walterbrown8293
@walterbrown8293 6 ай бұрын
Exalted truth?
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
I hear you, and considered including it. But had to keep the scope of the vid relatively focused otherwise we’d have a 45 minute vid on our hands lol. But since you asked I’ll give my quick thoughts. Exalted is cool, but the perk pool is a bit limited for what I would want in a PvP hand cannon. Column 3 it’s killing wind or under over. Column 4 is more compelling, multi-kill clip, encore, frenzy, eye of the storm. But, no slideshot, no payload, no opening shot. Kinda sad from a trials hand cannon imo. And the suros frames feel a little numb and goofy to shoot, not most people’s favorite, though I played a lot with cantata and it grew on me. Also you can’t get an adept right now since it’s out of rotation, another bummer. The roll I kept and occasionally pull out for 1 purpose exclusively, is under over frenzy. Second perk matters less, but the use case is when you have to challenge a team of void titans with constant OS. It’s nice to negate that benefit they have. The problem is that an OS void titan or woven mail strand titan for that matter will always push you, usually with a sub/peacekeepers. So I almost always go for an under over weapon with more range or a smg. So in the end the one setup exalted is good for gets out classed by other guns that do the same setup and have a more usable effective range for countering that fight. Sorry to word dump but that’s why I left it out of the vid.
@walterbrown8293
@walterbrown8293 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjustsideways agree on suros feeling funky, I have 1 with under over + encore just for barricade heavy teams. Appreciate the quick reply!
@ochaindavis
@ochaindavis 6 ай бұрын
0:30 🤣🤣🤣
@davidhache1267
@davidhache1267 6 ай бұрын
Who probably has two thumbs and is an elitist? That guy! Lol who would you guys kill without us scrubs
@austinrock7636
@austinrock7636 6 ай бұрын
I'll be the 501st sub
@the0nlywes846
@the0nlywes846 5 ай бұрын
“Idk why austringer feels bad at the start of gunfights but feels better as im shooting” *has a zen moment eye of the storm roll* like no shit sherlock
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 5 ай бұрын
You hope a gun doesn’t feel like ass before the perks kick in. All the other weapons go from good to great, this one goes from not good to fine, I guess.
@warriorgoat5939
@warriorgoat5939 6 ай бұрын
You’re an elitist. Unsubbing.
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 6 ай бұрын
👋 Sayonara. I’m not interested in making content for the lowest common denominator. There will always be a touch of elitism here or there, but you’ll never see me demeaning anyone who’s still learning the game. If you’re not good at the game, and trying to get better. I have nothing but respect for you and will tell you everything I know and try to help your pursuit. But if you want me to dumb down my content because it’s not casual enough just go watch someone else like Jez or something.
@slayer6346
@slayer6346 6 ай бұрын
It does make a pretty satysfying sound
@souloftherain7530
@souloftherain7530 5 ай бұрын
great fuckin video damn!
@itsjustsideways
@itsjustsideways 5 ай бұрын
Thanks my man 🙏
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