Ranking Every HAND CANNON in a Tier List

[@SayWallahBruh]

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[@ANIronhide8]

SMG tier list when? 👀

[@nittani.]

but walah i use the seventh seraph handcannon it just feels good

[@drewmasterson7600]

Palindrome Adept in my opinion is s tier i didn’t see that one on the list

[@revenge750]

Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

[@whiterspon573]

yeah check this trash pc build and you get Malware Gratis really nice behavior on your side and no thank you i have my monster pc :(

[@Forcer69]

Number 1, Cry Mutiny. Since it’s a cannon you can hold in your hand.

[@Yasser2k6]

The nade launcher😂😂😂

[@itzRoman5000]

number 2, telesto

[@VAVORiAL]

funny funny

[@naiko8412]

I support this message

[@MrSeagallo]

Can't argue with the logic

[@TravisLally]

“Ranking every hand cannon from lowest to highest range stat”.

[@TheEscapePlan01]

real.

[@fatihaydynly5500]

then the worst gun he put, seventh seraph is the most familiar I am in pvp, which is crazy. also malf does just dmg more than a heavy weapon

[@JH-vb1wo]

A lot of hand cannons make or break it by the way it looks when your in combat. Some hand cannons have good stats but if it’s clunky and ugly to shoot it’s a waste of time imo. I think adept pali is still to this day the best looking and feeling hand cannon like I can see everything clearly and the combo of killing wind rangefinder was legendary and I really think bungie will bring it back one day

[@DaHammerOfGod]

The Adept Pali is due to come back soon I think. Hoping it's one of the guns coming back into the rotation. Need keep away on that gun

[@MusMasi]

too bad they nerfed quickdraw and range finder so my god roll is useless.

[@DaHammerOfGod]

@@MusMasi that hurts

[@kenzilbaptiste2519]

@@DaHammerOfGod it does not need keep away ..it doesn't have poor range or poor reload

[@kenzilbaptiste2519]

you didnt loose anything ..

[@superdarroch]

Thorn will definitely be next season meta. It can 2crit1body 6 resil and with perk up can 2 crit 6 resil. Catalyst is going to make it a real menace.

[@Pizzabros223]

Did you hear about it getting a buff letting you overflow it with its exotic perk too up too 40 rounds? That’s 40, poisoning rounds, in a 96 impact hand cannon, without the catalyst!

[@colewilliams2906]

the will not matter much in pvp, but it will certainly be nice in pve, especially after the osteo nerf@@Pizzabros223

[@dennismadrid5146]

@@Pizzabros223that’s probably when you get a LOT of remnants. Your probably not going to get 40 easily unless you pve and use nectrotic grips

[@Wad3y]

@@Pizzabros223that might be only for pve not sure tho

[@revenge750]

Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

[@ChaoticD3sTroYeR]

I saw the thumbnail and was about to say "Ace of spades is way too low", but seeing the true tier list, great. It's where it should be, cause it's not only significant lore wise, it's a GREAT HC overall.

[@SayWallahBruh]

Haha sorry I didn’t wanna put all the hand cannons s tier on the thumbnail! Hope you enjoyed the video babe

[@sansz]

@@SayWallahBruh nice video bro

[@sansz]

@@SayWallahBruh I'm out of the game, what is that ornament on the ace of spades?

[@tmack8464]

@@sanszexactly what I was wondering

[@williammaclean6173]

That lo oked like something straight outta the crafting glitch. Like DMT crafted into an Ace. Somehow?

[@Valorant_Simplified]

the fact that kept confidence and eyasluna/austringer are in the same tier just destroys any faith I could have ever had in this tier list. I don't know why people would look to you for hand cannon recommendations if this what they're getting.

[@BarelyFunctional69]

Kept confidence looks so mid on paper, but feels so buttery smooth to use

[@Idkidkidk716]

Yes it sure does.

[@S3N_Gaming]

to save everyone some time. He puts all 180s in D or F so just skip to 5:54 for the real tier list to start.

[@fatihaydynly5500]

what do you feel about them? I just like their recoil animations so it's easier to shoot

[@tnlerr]

i personally have used igneous a lot (both old and new) and the new one has a consistent recoil pattern and doesn’t kick around randomly, something small that makes it better than the old one, imo

[@aliscripture9334]

There’s a new igneous hammer? What do you mean? I just returned to Destiny after half a year so I don’t understand

[@tnlerr]

yes, same name and 120rpm hc, but has new perks and some of the stats change because of it, i personally notice a huge difference in deterministic recoil and prefer the new one @@aliscripture9334

[@nenzonenzo]

It’s funny how destiny 2 seems to be the number one game to reveal which creators have never picked up a book in their lives or are just straight illiterate. Man these pronunciations…

[@ANIronhide8]

I'll admit I got a soft spot for ancient gospel, I have a slideshot Rangefinder roll that still slaps but unfortunately the garden weapons are powercrept to hell

[@quaxx4042]

Don't worry mate, we'll get the chance to craft those weapons in a near future...

[@LaLloronaVT]

@@quaxx4042I really hope we can craft prophet of doom to be matador 2.0, a craftable matador clone god I’d kill for that

[@alter6243]

@@quaxx4042Crafting those weapons also requires grinding Garden of Salvation…

[@quaxx4042]

I mean, if u don't like GoS I'll respect it but I actually enjoy the raid@@alter6243

[@quaxx4042]

I also want prophet of doom to be craftable, but I don't think that bunige will put absolute godroll perks on that shotgun sadly@@LaLloronaVT

[@jek7828]

Day 563: GoldExgle 1v1

[@sage.697]

It prob ain’t ever gonna happen bro

[@GoeDiPro]

Chato pra caralho hein

[@Olc-ui8fk]

Wallah Scurred bro

[@marcusb553]

You should be making this post to gold he declined wallah twice 😂

[@TheMaxxter]

Keep doing it bro, it will eventually happen (Wallah you better do what this man wants this is true commitment)

[@Mugiwara2k]

I get so tired of the 180 slander. While they absolutely aren’t the best HC’s in the game by any means, there’s no way that ALL of them are D tier or below just because of the archetype. A 180 like WoC and Survivor is excellent, and far from a D tier.

[@markproano50]

What skin is that for Ace and how do you get it?

[@nickeyback]

Anyone else wondering what that ornament is for Ace? I haven’t found it anywhere! 23:56

[@LemonNull]

It was during the visual bug that made you be able to use any weapon model for any weapon so it’s bugged to look like the Dead Man’s Revenge ornament for DMT, his shotgun is also divinity lol

[@URDWNF4LL]

@@LemonNullthat’s sad, it would have been an amazing ornament and definitely pay to win to get, an amazing red dot on it lol

[@nocturne4051]

When rose can be focused I will spend an unholy amount of hours farming for it

[@mariasoderlund3162]

I think it is next season

[@di11onm1nkgaming]

@@mariasoderlund3162it is next season

[@revenge750]

Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

[@houstonSolo]

@@revenge750 because it’s a video game, cheaters in every single semi competitive video game. Destiny is actually better than a lot of other games imo

[@korbin0717]

​@@houstonSolo yea, I'm not a big crucible player, but I've been playing consistently for a while, an I don't think I've come across any cheaters, just people unnecessarily good at the game

[@versusdxxth_4928]

pov you wish you had even half of these handcannons ☠️

[@zhongthekong]

Something important on 140 hand cannons that I don’t hear too many people talk about is recoil direction. To me, it’s why dire promise, zaouli’s bane, and cantata don’t feel as good as you would think they should.

[@skycloud4568]

wtf is your ace of spades ornament

[@ilySoulsy]

Fr

[@Denik08]

Never really considered Sturm because I just always assumed you needed Drang to make it worth anything, but after watching this, I paired it with a shotty and holy crap. This thing slaps!

[@SinceCOD4]

Feel like you should have went into more detail on why you dislike 180's. I'm going to give you some reasons I like them. #1 - At around 65-70 stability - they have by far the best hand cannon recoil in the game (almost non-existent). In fact, at around that stability - they have top 5 all weapons recoil in the game. #2 - WHILE IN FULL AUTO - they have the best target switching of all semi auto weapons in the game (this goes back to having no recoil). So you can X someone and without pausing your full auto firing - move on to the next target as if you aren't even firing. Most semi's cannot do this. With 180's - there's no resistance. #3 - They are more forgiving for missing shots and missing headshots than any other hand cannon class. Not really #4, but Frontier's Cry can hit 92 range with Iron Reach. And if you have Tunnel Vision on it and get a kill + reload - it can have 92 range and 100 Aim Assist. That lowers it's stability to 29. But 29 stability on a 180 is like 100 stability on a 120.

[@bobbytaco2424]

Dont recall seeing Jack Queen King 3.

[@autismoprime]

Gary the type of guy to hire an escort and ask if she’s in it for the money 💸🐿

[@SayWallahBruh]

LMAO

[@VAVORiAL]

Ayo, Gary deserves better, smh

[@naiveveg8447]

Hey she could be doing freebies

[@revenge750]

Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

[@advicescorner3175]

I really hope that Bungie would bring back Palindrome next season or two. That's definitely in my top 3 most loved HCs ever (alongside OG Igneous and Hawkmoon).

[@4kum41986]

THE handcannon

[@chaseburkley5325]

Putting Thorn on the outside of the tier list was so dirty

[@di11onm1nkgaming]

I gotta disagree with the nations of beast disrespect here, due to explosive mitigating damage fall off and it having 90 range it has the best range of any 140 in the game. 12 better range than the best possible roll on rose Better AA than rose Better stability Better reload It’s craftable meaning no RNG Can be paired with Conditional Hell the only thing Rose actually has on it is a mildly better initial shot (if running slideshot and not moving target), handling, AE, and 1 extra in the mag. No way is Nations a B tier yet out competes the ‘best hand cannon in the game’ on stats 😂

[@Toneoko]

Fellas wake up Wallah finally made a hand cannon tier list 🤌🏼

[@thisguy9919]

Wallah I don’t want to ruin the fact that this little secret happens to be low-key meta-but nation of the beast fully crafted will be igneous every day of the week is just shoot faster

[@thedresrosa]

As a 180 rpm fan. Crota and Trust are the best for the energy and epitaph(but a very specific roll) for kinetic. Those 3 are the only ones i'd say are worth it. (Honorable mention is a crafted Ikelos with rampage\tricorn paired with radiant it's very crispy imo)

[@HCBWx3]

Vulp with Killing Wind and Adagio lets it become a 150 with close to 40m of range with nice stats after a kill. in 6s its pretty good at chaining. For me it's probably the best 180, with maybe Posterity coming in close

[@Sazanka17_]

You should do this for all weapon types down the line

[@burgscratch6301]

The only hand cannon that's won me over on the gameplay side of things is True Prophecy itself, actually. Managed to nab two rolls, both of them Overflow but the one I use the most has Timed Payload. Can't really explain why I love it so much, other than it just feels right to use it.

[@joshlong6733]

The ones that xur was selling? He sold a overflow explosive payload and its pretty solid tbh the reload speed is so slow that overflow actually has its uses. Ive personally played the game since it came out and remember trying to get world drops from banshee and turning in literally 500 engrams one season and only got 4 rolls of it none that were good so when i seen xur selling that overflow explosive i was so hyped up lol

[@brandon.-.5997]

Ummm wtf is that ace of spades ornament at 23:50?!?!?!

[@Allupinyamama]

Hawkmoon and Thorn better be S tier

[@SayWallahBruh]

💀

[@Luketheduke12]

They aren’t

[@Dred-Rivals]

Hawkmoon is really good, but not S-tier. To get extra stats you need to already have been in a fight, and the one shot doesn’t happen too often unless you’re way better than everyone else in the lobby. And thorn, although it is my favorite weapon, has super low range, and can only 2 head one body people up close due to low range, and against low resil targets, which is rare in the titan meta. And with smgs being this good, they get to compete at similar ranges. It also has an average mag size and bad stability, plus the exotic kill perk requires you to run at the orb to get it, which you can’t do a lot of times. Next season with catalyst it will definitely be up at A or S tho And I have over 2000 kills on both of these weapons

[@a118studios7]

Thorn Will be S tier next season, but for now it's mid

[@xtassy1961]

Sometimes Stats Not everything Hawk feel amazing and better then all A Tier guns lol

[@FormaAlert]

finally a tier list where everything isn't chucked into a/s tier right off the bat, fairest one ive ever seen

[@r3hab743]

Whenever you make these tier list I always gotta remember you're making this list in terms of pvp not overall cause i was thinking Malfeasance and seventh sereath (can't spell) is really good in pve but I stopped myself

[@angelotomasi9413]

Frontier’s Cry with a reload perk and kill clip is actually one of my favorite weapons to pull out when I’m playing iron banner. Works great in a team shot environment. I use one with compulsive reloader for the insane reload speed up to 9 rounds I believe

[@nicoquesadiaz]

Im glad I could help :D

[@apllevinagr]

ur the goat bro

[@topesimoes]

15:25 i completely understand your opinion on Dire Promise (i cried when Rangefinder nerfed and my beloved Fastdraw HCS/ Hitmark HCD + HighCal + Opening Shot + Rangefinder was murdered)

[@Lawlololololololol]

I know they're sunset but I would've liked to see Lunas Howl/ Not Forgotten somewhere there, still fun guns to use (even in their gutted state)

[@jedispartancoolman]

They aren't that good anymore by today's standards. Rose eats them

[@revenge750]

Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

[@TheEscapePlan01]

@@jedispartancoolman boy have i got news for you.

[@jedispartancoolman]

@@TheEscapePlan01 rose still eats lol

[@TheEscapePlan01]

@@jedispartancoolman i'd say they're pretty close if not on par now, but opinions exist.

[@fscottnoah7223]

Can someone tell me what ornament for Ace he was using?! It appeared to have a Tex Mechanica theme from the user’s perspective.

[@SavvyMon4]

Was footage from during the craftening I think

[@SavvyMon4]

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[@notefromone2925]

You missed my boy duke mk 44

[@skytigergaming8974]

What ace of spades ornament is that

[@lymer2158]

i disagree with the seventh seraph revolver, because as my titan's base armor is the seventh seraph set, and i find it very comfortable for pve

[@storm_velocity5994]

i dont see anyone talking about it so ima say it. What exotic ornament for Ace of spades Is that??? Ive never seen it at all

[@LennyLeLenny]

i think cantata is deserving of B tier since it has suros synergy. That flinch reduction does wonders, that plus handling for just reloading is huge.

[@gabrielmay6158]

What ornament is that for ace 23:56

[@MrDanedo]

I have a rangefinder/expl payload bottom dollar and that's a god roll enough for me, very happy with it

[@dylanlasky2389]

Idk what it is but I looooove DFA. It's similar to dire promise for me. The sights are the best on any handcannon.

[@WielderOfMemes]

The 180 slander hurt on the inside

[@nicklandry5528]

Does anyone know what Ornament that is on his Ace Of Spades?

[@warlockholmes]

Me when Sturm finally gets love that it deserves

[@huegofarley4684]

celerity is such a crazy perk, im so glad i have a few trials weapons with it

[@dehmz3183]

Never seen that ace skin

[@Green_Sentinel_3]

I feel Swashbuckler gets slept on in PVP considering the number of melee kills that frequently happen in the crucible.

[@Idkidkidk716]

I got the an adept igneous hammer with the old perk. I would put the old and the new in S tier if you are able to get arrowhead brake on the new one because of the recoil changes the new igneous recoil is to the left and is super bad but if you get the recoil on the new igneous to 100 then you are chilling makes a huge difference imo

[@revenge750]

Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

[@MercyMomma]

He took his words back when the catalyst came for thorn lmao, its almost one of the best handcannons now and it's everywhere, Thorn is quite literally meta

[@intow1shin]

Everytime you say resoNONCE my baby cries loudly

[@Gravlyy]

It hurts to see my baby true proph in C, but I gotta agree. Good HC, but it’s basically impossible to get a good roll, and mid rolls aren’t very usable.

[@squidy4082]

How can you farm rose ?

[@Z00000M]

Comp

[@Ricology56]

My brother man really forgot about the world drop of Thin Line void HC. This thing felt great but you had to get the holy roll of Steady Hand, Ricochet rounds, Slideshot and Opening shot. Sits at 65 range and 47 stability at base and when opening shot/ slide shot activate it ramps up to 85/100 range and 77 stability. This thing felt amazing when I last used it before saying goodbye to it for more vault space.

[@kevinmad0959]

well thats sunset so

[@marylandman]

Thin line was dope but it’s sunset now. Outside of trials, it’s cool but you can take it into the highest level comp

[@revenge750]

Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

[@xKINGxRCCx]

Last word has carried me to flawless multiple times in the last few weeks. Yes im on console. But still i think it needs to be in A tier. Throw on a kinetic targeting mod on console and sheeshhh. Things deadly

[@revenge750]

Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

[@novanation5870]

I found out recently that I have good aim skill in games with true aim skill And I actually found last word to be really sticky for me personally on mnk and it was a lot of fun. I still say igneous is better but god damn it's such a fun gun on mnk.

[@fotis3v480]

There's no true aim skill or skill in d2 aiming. It's 85% aim assist 15% crosshair placement.

[@novanation5870]

@@fotis3v480 Last word is coded differently. It doesn't hit ghost bullets, it's simply an issue of skill and aim. It's the only gun in the game that doesn't rely off aim assist at all on mnk

[@MusMasi]

its kind of weird but in games and especially in real life I shoot better when I don't aim too much, its almost like feeling the shot.

[@revenge750]

Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

[@ibonlamas5348]

24:25 how did u get the ace of spades skin, and WHY IS DIV UR SHOOTGUN SOMEONE EXPLAIN PLS

[@lroguejedi0883]

Right ace looks crazy

[@Idranim]

Thorn post buff is getting its own tier it’s basically just ace on steroids somehow

[@vampahh1171]

I have a combined action with tunnel vision kill clip, max stability roll at 61, only 120 to compete with igneous for me. I'd put it in high B or low A tbh

[@dyl10000]

Was going through my vault and realized I had the nasty steady hand tucked away in there. Probably my favorite feeling 120 right now.

[@lukatosic09]

Nature of the beast can 3 tap without a kill with high impact reserves

[@GamerGuyKas]

Been waiting for someone to do a good one of these. Glad it was you.

[@Werslerfull]

I think Combined action with Adagio deserves very own video, it's fantastic gun!

[@DivinePiss]

Bro i crafted kept confidence today and i had 30 bomb and then a 36 bomb in crucible its one of the best best hand cannnons I DID NOT LIKE THE KEPT CONFIDENCE RANKING

[@anomaly102]

Thorn is in fact meta now 💯‼️

[@scottparrott5674]

I would place Austringer and Eyasluna in like A or even S on controller. Zen moment and super high stability is god tier on controller. Other than that Exalted Truth S tier with killing wind / encore combo.

[@Furiouspenguin27]

Eyasluna can’t get zen tho

[@scottparrott5674]

@@Furiouspenguin27 Yeah maybe Luna after the Rangefinder nerf is fair at B. I would put it A just cause it feels amazing though but I prefer Austringer.

[@revenge750]

Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

[@kommiraikoni]

I like how all PvP guys stay almost stable when you're shooting them

[@dj_mcfuggernugs507]

Pure Poetry looks like the comic book version of Hellboy's Good Samaritan

[@Red790]

Hawkmoon is S tier tbh, kind of hard to put it lower than Ace when Memento Mori gives it less range now. With Hawkmoon, the 1 taps are nice but you can have a 2 tap that you can store with either getting 1 kill or hitting 3 headshots, and getting the mag down to 2 bullets(also longer range than Ace now). You can swap to your special and still keep this, you lose this ability with Ace. If you want to go for the 1 taps, a x7 will 1 shot any1 in their super with a headshot

[@JasonPTA]

Nice Was looking for an updated HC video

[@Winters_0]

Sturm mains 👇

[@a118studios7]

Don't mess with sturm fans, half of us are naz-

[@Nautilus_pilot]

Just reached 2000 kills with it today.

[@OnyxINQ]

I’m very happy to still have an old adept igneous hammer with arrowhead, high cal, rapid hit, opening shot or celerity. 90 range, 70 handling.

[@ShadowChaolan]

Can Sturm 2 tap with overcharged rounds from Drang?

[@apllevinagr]

yes

[@pbj7874]

What is that ace ornament

[@panini15]

Hey walah since dmt is basically a long handcanon where would you rank it now after all the changes?

[@SayWallahBruh]

I don’t like it anymore 😢 prob like C tier and A tier on big maps

[@GreysDen]

The DFA is solid A tier for me. The Timed Payload with perpetual motion and max stability is the smoothest hand canon over ever used. I have fragile focus instead of perpetual motion but I personally prefer the high stability over range.

[@syph3onnlll228]

Wardens law does not have less range than crimson Crimson is 30 meters while wardens law can reach 37

[@Chicken-rn6ur]

loud lullaby with explosive rounds and surplus would easily sit in a tier if you knew what you were talking about. it feels amazing and competes at further ranges, its also thematically the coolest hand cannon cause it looks like you smacked a goose with it.

[@topesimoes]

12:56 "There's no good perks on the left side column..." You really shouldn't overlook Moving Target. It's free boost to strafe speed and even better: free aim assistance. Having it it's the equivalent of having 3 targeting mods on your helmet for +10 a.a. although, without the ADS multiplier. By equipping 1 of those, you have +15 a.a. on your weapon and the faster ADS animation.

[@apitify2474]

Hand cannons will never be the same after beyond light

[@SemiProFemboy]

They always murder the most skill expressive weapons in the game snipers and hand cannons and we always sway back into special ammo simulator and it's so boring the catering of the pvp sandbox to the worse players is starting to get old

[@Dacrada]

I know it is not meta, but I just got a Steady Hands/Ensemble, Kill Clip Crisis Inverted with Full Bore, Ricochet, Range MW and it has been supremely enjoyable - for a no Trials player.

[@TheBlazzam]

we just gonna ignore that Ace ornament?? what is that??

[@asdref1234]

What is that Ace of Spades ornament?!😮

[@Gabeison]

Thorn not being Meta did NOT age well AT ALL

[@antiheartless45]

So the catalyst made it cracked?

[@Gabeison]

@@antiheartless45exactly

[@UserApplication]

Bro wtf was that ace model 😂

[@VulpeculaOdin]

Editor interventions cracked me up. WTF indeed. Thorn is going to SLAP in Final Shape & we all know it

[@spacesharc1]

Randomly turned in 3 gambit engrams yesterday for bottom dollar, got Fluted, accurized, Slideshot, EOTS, w range mw. My god am I lucky

[@spacesharc1]

thing gets 100 range at 40.5 meters just for sliding i think its the best 120 in the game

[@MusMasi]

wallah hates you lol.

[@UnderplayedCreations]

I hate it when people overrate Rose. “But Lightweight frame” 🤓

[@jayhendz939]

Bro thank you for making this video and list

[@hydractra]

Hawkmoon is easily an S tier if you abuse the bug with holster mods. You get to keep those range and handling stacks forever, and get to have a pocketed 2 tap or 1 tap on demand. Try playing against a sweatlord with over 20k kills on it and you'll see just how broken it is (even more than rose)

[@supersavvii]

editor intervention at the end is funny lol maybe the thorn will get a re-rank after the catalyst

[@MaximalGFX]

Loud Lullaby goes from having the worst stats, to the best stats in class if you run Surplus (There are a couple subclasses where it's easy to always be at 3 stacks). A 100 Handling 120HC + Kill Clip, EP or Eye of the Storm is nothing to scoff at.

[@revenge750]

Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢