Best 4K Webcam Comparison | Insta360 Link, OBSBOT Tiny PTZ 4K, Logitech BRIO & MOKOSE

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Jeremy Chapman

Jeremy Chapman

Күн бұрын

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@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
What's your favorite 4K webcam? I hope the DJI Pocket gets webcam or clean HDMI out ability, because it would make an amazing gimbal webcam. For now, the Insta360 Link and OBSBOT are pretty sweet though.
@MedicoVisual
@MedicoVisual Жыл бұрын
I would prefer Insta360 Link anytime. Gotta buy it soon.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy Жыл бұрын
That's a great webcam!
@saschaneumeier8176
@saschaneumeier8176 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you only have a 1300 subscribers? That comparison was awesome, it's easy to follow you - I really don't like tech reviews on YT but I enjoyed watching yours!
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
Bedanke mich. Sehr nett von dir zu sagen! (habe zu einer in Deutschland gewohnt).
@PieceOfThePieWithTy
@PieceOfThePieWithTy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Awesome Video 👍🏽!! Very Helpful
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it. Hope it helped you decide 🙂
@JosephFabs
@JosephFabs 2 жыл бұрын
Insta360 obviously wins! So happy I made the right decision in buying it. :D The whiteboard mode will be very useful for me when I teach :)
@Simon_Hawkshaw
@Simon_Hawkshaw 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this in-depth review and opinion. Does the Insta360 Link get as hot as the Obsbot Tiny 4K?
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
It gets warm, but didn't seem as hot as the OBSBOT. I can try to test this with my Lazer thermometer - I actually haven't had a webcam overheat since my review of the Tweiki cheapo webcam with integrated light.
@Simon_Hawkshaw
@Simon_Hawkshaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeployJeremy, many thanks for taking the time and making the effort to reply. I look forward to seeing the results.
@5654Martin
@5654Martin Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great review! 👍 Have you checked the Epos stuff already?
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Sorry, I haven't tried Epos. Their cameras and microphones look pretty good though.
@MedicoVisual
@MedicoVisual Жыл бұрын
Awesome straight to-the-point review. Although should have included Elgato Facecam Pro. It's perhaps the only webcam that offers 60fps with 4k. Plus image quality is really good. Another thing that could be improved is to show side-by-side comparison for the better idea of image quality.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy Жыл бұрын
Wish I could get one. When I do, I'll review it and hopefully with the Razer Kiyo Ultra
@SKYGUY1
@SKYGUY1 Жыл бұрын
Good comparisons. Thanks. Is the OBSBOT really a PTZ cam? Can the Pan, Tilt and Zoom be controlled manually and remotely, or is it just "following" software?
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy Жыл бұрын
Yes, you can manually control the framing using their software. I've used it in static mode, zoomed in to my panned and tilted location for a few of the other videos I've published. It's a nice webcam and automated motion is less aggressive than the Insta360 Link's (even on the Link's slowest setting), so to me it feels more "human" - having worked with camera and jib operators in the past.
@chrisw1462
@chrisw1462 Жыл бұрын
What's with the audio dropouts???
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I hit some editing issues in Camtasia with a bug. Levels showed same, but dipped in 2 or 3 spots. This is the only time it's ever happened.
@sharkmd89
@sharkmd89 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the info. I have one question though. Is it possible to connect 3 insta360 link devices to one PC and use them with OBS simultaneous?🤔
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy Жыл бұрын
I only have one to test, but it should work as long as you have enough USB bandwidth. If your machine has a few 3.2 Gen 2 ports you should be fine. I have heard of webcams (apparently Anker C300) that only recognize 2 at a time. I have a feeling this has to do with how the hardware vendor defines the device IDs. I have 3 identical Elgato Cam Link 4k devices and use OBS and it works. They all have the same name in OBS, so using the camrename utility helps your own sanity when configuring OBS, especially if you use other apps like Teams or Zoom with the same camera.
@sharkmd89
@sharkmd89 Жыл бұрын
@@DeployJeremy Thanks for the info. Really apreciate it.
@chiefkillakeith
@chiefkillakeith 2 жыл бұрын
literally the best review
@lizzieram03
@lizzieram03 Жыл бұрын
Any software privacy concerns when it comes to the Insta360? I’ve been reading some mixed reviews. Does it work well without software? Any chance you’d compare it against the Opal C1?
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy Жыл бұрын
Early on, Insta360 had very aggressive telemetry feeding back, but that's since been addressed and very little traffic is being sent now. There is a Reddit thread about this and the author was looking at traffic and packets sent (so it was more science than fear-based opinion). I used to work and build software in China, so I would have done the same thing, except maybe send logs to Azure or AWS first, then redirect to later. I haven't tried it as a normal UVC camera without software. I don't have the Opal C1. I love the design, but based on specs alone I can't justify the price. I did know someone with it (who is an extreme fan of Apple hardware who spared no expense with >$22k daily driver hardware setup).
@PushkarRavi
@PushkarRavi Жыл бұрын
I am so glad that I found this review. I plan on getting a webcam, and Insta 360 is on top of my list. Can I request a comparison between Opal C1, Lumina 4k Webcam, Insta 360 Link, Elgato FaceCam Pro, and maybe Anker B600? Thank you.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy Жыл бұрын
Wasn't planning on it, but hoping to get a Facecam Pro and Kiyo Ultra soon. I buy all of these cameras with my own money, so I can't do everything 🙂
@The_Football_Scout
@The_Football_Scout 2 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful. Thank you
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad it helped
@ringringbananaphone1072
@ringringbananaphone1072 2 жыл бұрын
Curious as to the quality of the built in mics. Are they at least usable? Generally mics on these webcams are pretty bad.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
I recorded all the mics on the webcams in this video. They were all pretty bad, partly because they are about 2 feet away. Mokose mic was awful.
@MetaGyaani
@MetaGyaani 2 жыл бұрын
Question... 1. Do you have to plug USB C directly into Laptop or can use a hub like Kensington I use for my Windows 11 Surface Laptop Studio? Is there image quality loss if I use 6 or 8ft USB C Cable? I use a 65 Inch Samsung TV as monitor for work. I want to put the Insta360 on top of TV instead of Laptop. Otherwise it makes my picture look like I am staring into the sky (with Camera mounted on Laptop screen). Thanks.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on your USB-C bandwidth. 3.0 to 3.2 Gen 2 ranges between 5 to 10 gbps. Thunderbolt 4 is 40 gbps. I've saturated my USB ports often with too many Cam Link devices using 3.2 Gen 2 ports with a few 1080p 60fps cameras. 4k 30fps by itself can saturate a port. Laptop Studio native ports are Thunderbolt 4, but if you use a Dock 2, they are 3.2 Gen 2. Other docks will vary. If you're using a 4k 60hz monitor and 4k 30Hz camera from Thunderbolt 4, theoretically you should be fine. If you get a hub and have concerns, make sure it is Thunderbolt 4 speed rated. Since many are not.
@HarryHobo
@HarryHobo 2 жыл бұрын
Very good and usefull comparison. I looked to a lot of compare video's but yours is one of the best. Very strange the Brio is so yellow. Maybe the mostly blue background was the reason. Cannot understand you only have 1.4K followers.
@dcfairwi
@dcfairwi 2 жыл бұрын
Looking for something that works outdoors and tracks any movement within a specific zone. Something with good zoom abilities and able to handle several targets at once.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have much experience with outdoor security cameras, but that's where I would start.
@nomad0714
@nomad0714 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jeremy, Nice comparison. Have you tried Lumina 4K? Or the new Tiny 2 that has dual ISO, sensor size 1/2.5”, PDAF af, and other new features, I’m curious how it will stack up with Insta360.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I haven't yet. Next ones in line are the 1/2" sensor webcams once I can justify buying them 🙂
@nomad0714
@nomad0714 Жыл бұрын
@@DeployJeremy, thanks for the quick reply! Oh man. You don’t get sponsored or free products. Hope you will get them in the past! It’s a double edge sword though. No free products means burning your wallet. Free products means you need to do those reviews to keep the relationship. Keep up the good work. Now I need to go sub! 👍
@juanete69
@juanete69 2 жыл бұрын
You also need the Nexigo Iris and the Elgato Facecam Pro.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
I want to get the Facecam Pro, but didn't make the first wave of availability. Both have 1/1.8 inch sensor
@pierrebessette2018
@pierrebessette2018 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, can we hope a streamdeck app to control the insta360 link in the future ? At least possibility to use shortcuts ? or any way to attribuante a preset to different obs views ? that would be a great improvement to professional remote control. Many thanks for your great videos !!!
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Do you mean so the Streamdeck has position presets to move the camera between different gimbal angles?
@aussiezx3017
@aussiezx3017 2 жыл бұрын
to get clearer picture with the Logitech BRIO have pull apart take glue off lens turn a bit get picture more clear from manufacture not set right my be your ok but can mod it better image.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a lot of work. You're saying the plastic in front of the lens has yellowed? Or behind the lens on the sensor side? For me it's been like this on 2 cameras since day one, so it must have been a manufacturing flaw.
@sebacatana
@sebacatana Жыл бұрын
If you have all of them why not put them side by side in one screen? Missed opportunity... :(
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy Жыл бұрын
I agree with you! The hard part though if I record simultaneously though is that I max out the USB bandwidth, and on a timeline if you stack multiple clips at 4k, it's nearly impossible to edit on my laptop. So you need to convert and prerender everything at say 720p, then stack them on the timeline and grid them out. I try to do that in other reviews, but you'll notice those are 1080p 30 native captures typically that don't choke my timeline. Then there is the whole matching of framing, because if I digitally zoom in, people assume that the zoomed device doesn't focus or image isn't sharp, people get pretty heated on image sharpness and clarity, almost to the point where nothing else matters. 🙂
@sebacatana
@sebacatana Жыл бұрын
@@DeployJeremy oh wow. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for taking the time to explain :)
@kanishkajayaweera7882
@kanishkajayaweera7882 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see any yellowish tint with my BRIO. It's so hyped I guess the price and low light performance. It produces excellent images with minimal light.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
I've had 3 of them from a few different timeframes since 2018 and they've all had the yellow tint for me, even when I disable blue RGB lighting behind me or manually adjust white balance. I wish there were Hue and Tint adjustments in the software, because white balance doesn't work for me.
@RedsparInvesting
@RedsparInvesting 11 ай бұрын
I first thought of the tiny 2 but found it way too pricey so got the tiny 4k after seeing so many pos reviews However I a so disappointed: it comes with 2 cables but no explanation which one to use. Plugged it in my laptop but got no image, not even on obs. Installed the obsbot center but their software did not detect it? Kept saying connect your tall air with Bluetooth but even Bluetooth did not find it. Downloaded latest tiny 4k firmware only to get a message when opening that the file is damaged or unreadable. So almost 300$ for a camera that cannot even connect to a windows laptop?
@RedsparInvesting
@RedsparInvesting 11 ай бұрын
Now am thinking of the brio 4k as at least I want something that works out of the box.
@RedsparInvesting
@RedsparInvesting 11 ай бұрын
Do you think the brio is better than the elgsto pro?
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 11 ай бұрын
There is no Bluetooth radio in the Tiny 4K. Mine was recognized as a UVC camera without the app, then the app added the additional functionality and gimbal control. You could have a bad unit.
@RedsparInvesting
@RedsparInvesting 11 ай бұрын
@@DeployJeremy thx but if a new sealed box does not work they lost all credibility for me. I´d rather buy a cheaper one that's work
@user-vx9cr1zh8s
@user-vx9cr1zh8s 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I have the same feeling with you. Insta tracks and moves fast but I'm not kinda like that, it's a a little bit creepy and dizzy. For me the slower one OBSbot would be better.
@TeslaOsiris
@TeslaOsiris 2 жыл бұрын
Despite the mic being garbage on it, I'm really impressed with the image quality of the Mokose. I already have an XLR mic running into an audio interface, so I only really need a camera. I think the Mokose is more than sufficient since I only really do Zoom calls.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
It's my favorite budget 4k camera. As long as you're OK figuring out how to mount it and using OBS and Windows UVC camera controls, it's really good. There's also an HDMI version with internal camera controls and remote that gives even more settings and if your pair that with a capture card (even a cheap one), then you don't need to worry about Windows UVC settings resetting each reboot.
@fabioatila108
@fabioatila108 2 жыл бұрын
Tkhs. The best comparisons.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. 🙂
@BigMoneySonny
@BigMoneySonny 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your video as I’m in the market for a 4K camera and am interested primarily with the insta 360 link and have a few questions for you. Does the insta 360 link require additional software ? If so is it MacOS compatible ? Finally is the track movement constantly hunting for you ? I tend to move around a lot in my conferences and streams and I think that would make my viewers carsick 😂 Thanks again for the review and I look forward to your feedback.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you'll want the software for it to control the gimbal and perhaps tweak the image. It supports MacOS
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
Also you can slow down the movement and hunting. The default setting is a bit aggressive if I'm honest, but you can slow it down
@BigMoneySonny
@BigMoneySonny 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeployJeremy Appreciate the quick response and thank you for the answers. I started reading about some other stuff and apparently the camera phones home to China somewhere which could be a problem when I use it for work. Have you heard about this? It was in one of the amazon customer reviews.
@michaelp3093
@michaelp3093 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! However, one of the biggest issues that I will stay away from the Insta360 (and no one on KZbin has ever mentioned) is the privacy concern: the camera pings Chinese Domain 1K Per Day. Also their software has shady privacy agreement that I don't think we should take the risk. This is confirmed by our IT with the same finding from one of their Amazon reviews: "my corporate IT security team which made me immediately cease and desist the use of the Instalink360 webcam because the software sends information to a Chinese owned Domain Name Service (DNS). My network security team flagged the device because it was flooding my companies firewall logs with over 1,000 DNS calls with in a 24 hour period."
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the telemetry feed has been toned down quite a bit with current software: www.reddit.com/r/Insta360/comments/ymxiuz/insta_link_software_seems_safe_for_now_re_strange/
@caleyhall
@caleyhall 2 жыл бұрын
I thought 2160p is 2k?
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, it's 2160x3840, aka 2160p. Basically the equivalent of four 1080p monitors, so you double the resolution per axis. 2K is more or less 1080p, or 2048x1080, but some are 1440p 2560x1440
@LowDoughTech
@LowDoughTech 2 жыл бұрын
The best image was hands-down the Osmo pocket, but in webcam world, the Insta360 Link is champ. The Mokose image quality is the best bang-for-your-buck. The Obsbot is still pretty good overall, and the Brio is a turd with a USB cable. :)
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
True on all fronts. I also liked the audio from the OBSBOT the most; I think if I trimmed the gain from 70% to 60% in hindsight, it would have been even better - it's tuned for more of a deeper, studio tone. The rest are kind of thin - except the MOKOSE, which is an audio disaster.
@nagiii7733
@nagiii7733 Жыл бұрын
me watching this rn after i ordered and paid my logi brio
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy Жыл бұрын
It's a good choice. The recent firmware updates make the BRIO's color balance tunable. I like this camera again. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWjUpqqJe9uUj7s
@warpathh
@warpathh 2 жыл бұрын
Color balance dude… most of the cameras are adjustable… such a bad video.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea this was an option. Thanks!
@warpathh
@warpathh 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeployJeremy troll comment I am convinced… Either that, or you are dense mate.
@PlantainParadise
@PlantainParadise 2 жыл бұрын
I refuse to hit dislike
@jarexxsuvexx8212
@jarexxsuvexx8212 2 жыл бұрын
🤬Damit, i was hell bent on purchasing the insta360 until i saw that comment from MichaelP about the camera pinging the Chinese Domain 1K Per Day and something abouts its software shady privacy agreement. I wonder how it functions on the Mac without the software🤔.
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
You should still get it. The API calls back to the mothership have been reduced to 2 after recent updates.
@SFBenjaminK
@SFBenjaminK 2 жыл бұрын
is f*n SUPER NEW product, with NO experience from anyone hows it works in long run like even in months everything is like milk & honey when is new & to expensive for something we dont know , better just stick with good ole Lojitech brand
@DeployJeremy
@DeployJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
The image from the Insta360 is superior, that won't degrade over time. Your concern is valid though for the software and firmware side of things, they are still relatively new and unknown.
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