Best 5 Hero Mechs to Buy - MechWarrior Online

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@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Currently I'd recommend the Sleipnir over the Deathstrike. When the video was made, the meta wasn't very brawl friendly which contributed to the Scorch not making this list. Now assault brawling is more relevant so it's not a bad choice. I think it still would not make a top 5 list though.
@johnmoore8599
@johnmoore8599 6 жыл бұрын
MC-II-2 made the Scorch less viable because it can boat the Scorch brawl build better. Short range is less effective for the build due to the heavy gauss IS clan mechs like the Annihilator and better mid-range IS weapon systems. It's still a fun build when it works. It's just hit or miss in solo and group queue, heavily dependent upon proper positioning and the ability to cool off after a kill since the build is quite hot.
@SkinnyBlackout
@SkinnyBlackout 6 жыл бұрын
The mad cat mk2 did not fill the scorch role. The cat has HORRIBLE hitboxes, it absolutely can not survive in an intense brawl and it can not face tank the enemy. The mad cat is good at medium-long range and you should only do builds that fit this playstyle. In short range you will ALWAYS be outperformed by splat scorch, you will die in 3-4 hits and you won't be able to deal sufficient damage with splat cat due to marauders superb hitboxes. As far as the performance in QP goes, short range builds work there much more often, whereas laser vomit dominates the group play. Also, while the marauder can't really boat gauss+ laser vomit builds like the mad cat, it excels in doing highly efficient laser vomit with 6 er mediums+ 2 HLLs, 28 double heatsinks and a staggering 82KPH top speed on top of having better hitboxes. You can also use the D variant with 2 gauss and 2 ERLLs with ECM which works wonders in FP. The mad cat on the other hand is only viable because of the gauss+laser vomit loadout. While you can do good with dakka variant you will never outperform the meta loadout. That's why the marauder chassis are objectively better than the mad cat and if you want to brawl you should absolutely buy the scorch. There is only one mech that can outperform the scorch in brawling and that's the annihilator with heavy gauss and laser vomit.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
I agree the MCII-2 is the better brawler. The main advantage I think for the MCII is the JJs which helps to spread return fire.
@SkinnyBlackout
@SkinnyBlackout 6 жыл бұрын
Jumpjets on an assault mech are completely useless, fact. It's literally a waste of space. I'd put heatsinks or ammo any day of the week over the jumpjets.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
When you know you're going to get shot back, tap your JJs but don't lift off while moving forward. You should see more return fire going to legs and arms. Works pretty well. Another thing is JJs help you to turn faster, great when you've got a light behind you.
@duke7850
@duke7850 6 жыл бұрын
One of the heroes I constantly come back to is the Wolfhound Grinner. 5 MPLs + ECM works just great.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
I like it, just bought it today. One thing I wish it had was some energy heat quirks like the WLF-2. I've been finding its damage output over the typical 4-5 minutes of combat in a solo game is a bit limited. Overall I have better games with the WLF-2 I think.
@mpzajo
@mpzajo 6 жыл бұрын
I use 4MPLs to get a better engine, but I agree. And the Grinner's ECM is essential for me, so I don't use the other WLFs. I prefer to be swift and unseen :) I was able to do 1K damage one or two times with it.
@ratofnihm
@ratofnihm 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I run, with xl295. My fav light.
@AegisHyperon
@AegisHyperon 6 жыл бұрын
Not the fastest and doesn't have JJ, I always run out of cover and die instantly :(
@mpzajo
@mpzajo 6 жыл бұрын
AegisHyperon: With Grinner and ECM? Maybe change your camo from pink to something less visible :) Or think better when and where to run out of cover. When a WLF is with his team, he's the lesser priority for the enemy.
@psyantologist
@psyantologist 6 жыл бұрын
LCT-PB Reason: ECM at ~170kph
@fLamerelite
@fLamerelite 6 жыл бұрын
if you are able to earn money on this, you are my hero
@psyantologist
@psyantologist 6 жыл бұрын
^^ i'm in for the adrenaline rushes
@hydraphobic_6398
@hydraphobic_6398 6 жыл бұрын
I like it with 4 MLs, 2MGs, max engine & stealth armor. And only 750 MC with this sale!
@BryceNewtson
@BryceNewtson 6 жыл бұрын
Dude that tyrian music brought me way back.
@_ENOVA
@_ENOVA 6 жыл бұрын
U R abesolutely right, my friend. I played 2000+ hours and I agree with ur top 5. Instead EBJ I could call IV-Four 2xMRM30.
@ljessecusterl
@ljessecusterl 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input and advice in the reddit thread today! I fangirled a little when you replied to my comment.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Hah yw :)
@1HeatWalk
@1HeatWalk 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of getting the deathstrike but after I saw the new Blood ASP that can do the same load out with ECM. I decided to hold of on buying it until the Blood ASP comes out for MC. This list is okay for me since im mostly a medium pilot. For the average joe, this is a good list.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Blood Asp will have to give up some heatsinks and JJ to do the same 80 pt alpha build that you see on the DS. The BAS 72 pt alpha build is a good balance of DPS and alpha size, so it's close but not the exact same.
@daemonwulfe
@daemonwulfe 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to say my favorites are the best, they're far from the best. In fact, they suck balls, but I've always been partial to the Dragon heroes. Requires excellent marksmanship to pull off, but nothing feels better than topping a scoreboard while rocking a Dragon.
@HHHThanatos
@HHHThanatos 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Deathstrike. I bought the MCIIC-B in one of the recent sales, so there is no need, I guess. But the Gauss/Laser combo is really nice. tha
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
You don't neeeeeed it but DS is a huge CBill maker right now. 500k+ per match with premium time is pretty common.
@HHHThanatos
@HHHThanatos 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, that's neat. I'll try some kind of Gauss & PPC/LPL on the B variant first and see how it works. One variant per mech chassis should be enough for me at the beginning. 4-5 months isn't much of experience. tha
@FuzzyNova
@FuzzyNova 6 жыл бұрын
Espirit de corps is one of my favs. I haven't finished watching this video yet and I wish I would have watched it already because I literally just bought a hero mech five minutes ago. I have tried alot of them already so I wanted something new and I hadn't tried the DeathStrike yet. The MadCat MK II was a mech I really enjoyed. So I thought That The DeathStrike might do me well. So far it's pretty good. Ok now I'm gonna finish watching the video Yes The DeathStrike made it!!!! I just finished watching hahaha damn glad I got that one literally just bought it
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Good job haha
@warmonger2500
@warmonger2500 6 жыл бұрын
For a light mech I love the Kit Fox Purifier. It just works and is very versatile. Just my opinion, but I have hundreds of hours in it and it performs well. Current build x4 ERML, x2 LMG, ECM, x3 AMS with 3 tons of ammo and no jj.
@ratofnihm
@ratofnihm 6 жыл бұрын
Yes very strong. I am having a lot of fun running it with 6x spl, full jjs, ecm and dual ams with 3t ammo. I poptart whenever possible, including behind teammates for extra firepower the enemy isn't expecting. Build is strong fighting other lights too. Slow ones are screwed, and fast ones usually get legged after 2-3 well placed shots.
@QwertyCaesar
@QwertyCaesar 6 жыл бұрын
I just bought one and it's great! I'm running five MLs with no MGs but otherwise basically the same. A little hot but it's shockingly good at ridge peeking and it's anti-LRM/ATM capabilities have been the difference between victory and defeat more than once. If they ever introduce and alternative toggle so that AMS and LAMS aren't tied together I'm definitely adding LAMS just for those matches where the rain is endless.
@Artholos
@Artholos 6 жыл бұрын
Raven Huggin SRM12 MG4 is my favorite hero mech. It’s a solid light mech, high speed, good armour, excellent weapons for fighting any size mech at close range.. it’s just so solid
@deanclark8783
@deanclark8783 6 жыл бұрын
When I saw the title I immediately thought Sleipnir, Pakhet, and Deathstrike. I think the Esprit would be bit of a waste of money if you already have the Virago, so I'd kick it off and put the Pakhet in its place. I think you might want to do a medium/light hero video though, as some people like faster playstyles and might not be attracted to the heavier mechs.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
I kinda think mediums aren't big CBill earners that's why. There are some great light / medium heroes when compared to their light/med counterparts, but they don't get big games as often. When I look at my medium hero purchases, I think none of them have been really worth the MCs in terms of return on investment. Some have been interesting to play though. That's why I bought the WLF-GR today. I almost did group EBJ-EC and HBR-VI together. But after thinking about it for a while EBJ-EC gives you pretty legit UAC options whereas the HBR's ballistic options are worse generally. The VI also gets good energy quirks with its set-of-8 omnipods as I said. So because of these two reasons I think they differentiate enough and I decided to separate them. In some ways I agree though that if you have either the EC or VI, you don't really need the other because currently their best builds are similar.
@HHHThanatos
@HHHThanatos 6 жыл бұрын
I own 3 heroes so far, the "Hi there!", "K9" and "The Gray Death". I like all of them, but indeed, they are just fun and not some kind of meta or how you want to call it. tha
@deanclark8783
@deanclark8783 6 жыл бұрын
I've always been more comfortable in medium mechs to the point that my Black Widow has slightly worse stats than my Pakhet. My Bushwacker BSW-X1(S) has been a powerhouse for me as well, with better stats than even my Pakhet. While I don't own the Bushwacker hero High Roller (my X1 has the c-bill bonus), I would likely also outperform many of my heavies with it because I can fit my X1 build on it (usually 2xAC10s). If you're more comfortable with medium mechs the High Roller and Pakhet can compete with the heavies, and as a bonus they're powerful mechs for faction play scouting.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Oh you bough the Gray Death. I'm sorry.
@HHHThanatos
@HHHThanatos 6 жыл бұрын
It was for free via earned MC. I don't want to spend real money except for some mech bays which I buy wth 50% off. Yes, it's not that good, but I'm a lore fanboy. Wouldn't buy itagain, though. tha
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 6 жыл бұрын
As a fan of the novels i had to buy the Yen-Lo-Wang, the Grinner, Kuroi Kiri and Tempest, all of which are good choices in their respective weight class, though i miss jump jets on a light probably the most. The "Wang" is famous until today and Centurions are great for learning torso twist. Grinner is almost the same as the other Wolfhounds, so if you don´t need the C-Bill bonus you don´t need it. Kuroi Kiri is rather standard too, the Roc offers more diversion to the other Phoenix Hawk chassis, so the KK in the end is the same as the Grinner: standard chassis can do the same. The Tempest is unique as it can carry an ECM, one of very few IS heavies able to do so, definitely a mech with potential, i use it with LRMs but it is often seen with MRMs. Top Dog does pretty much the same as one of the standard versions, just with unique paint job and C-Bill boost. Jester is a nice mech, but i went for the Butterbee, using it as a team support mech, often to great effect, it´s one of the most successful mechs i own.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Nice summary
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 6 жыл бұрын
But i know too little about any Clan heroes. I´ll try EDC and sell my standard laservomit variant since i´m already familiar with the troublesome CT. I also own Blood Adder, Deathstrike and the Kit Fox hero which i equipped with the 3x AMS+ ECM arm. Best anti-missile mech in my hangar!
@ThunderKat
@ThunderKat 6 жыл бұрын
PirateBane (Locus), QuirckDraw-IV, grinner(WolfHound), Bounty Hunter (Marauder), Legend Killer (RifleMan), Pakhet (hunstman), MJOLNIR (Grasshopper), K-9 (UrbanMech), ILYA Muromet (Cataphracs), Chiper (Piranha), Scortch (Marauder-IIC), Ultra-Violet (DireWolf)...And I'm sure I'm missing some other mechs but I own many of this mechs or seen perform on top players both in QP and FW and all are solid picks. All of them offer something unique you won't find on any other mechs on the game and that's enough reason to pay extra for them.
@ratofnihm
@ratofnihm 6 жыл бұрын
Solid list. Scorch and Pakhet are also excellent Heroes to buy for c-bill farming. Particularly for players who may favor missile builds. And like others mentioned, Grinner and Purifier are great light Heroes. The Scorch is of course one of the game's most devastating brawlers with its 'bruiser' build of 2x LB20X and 4X srm6+a. It can also run the dual gauss, dual erml build popular with some on MADIICs (usually the D). Or various lrm and atm builds for more cautious potato play. The Pakhet can run any Clan missile build, all the way up to 8x srm4+a or 8x srm6 or dual atm12s... Other solid builds like 2x erppc with 2x hml, or dakka or laser boating/vomit of some sort are all solid bets. It also lets you farm free mech bays in FP Scouting by jumping from loyalty contract to contract now that there is no 7 day wait or reputation penalty for switching. Run this thing with streaks in scouting and rack up 250+ match scores all day long. If there's a #5a that deserves to be on this list, I think it's the Pakhet. - Shootey. :)
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Scorch as others have mentioned is still good, just weaker than the MAD-IIC and MAD-IIC-A. Assault brawl is inconsistent, depends a lot on your teammates to push and the map you get. If you get a team that's content with sitting back and trade at midrange, then assault brawlers often have nothing to do.
@Shevayeb
@Shevayeb 6 жыл бұрын
Tyrian soundtrack! nice!
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
;)
@QwertyCaesar
@QwertyCaesar 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for releasing this video! I already bought a Purifier but I've been hesitant to get anything else. As for recommendations, I love my TDK. Four MLs, XL240 with max mobility and durability and you can be a terror. I will admit that it is a bit disappointing that you get disarmed easily though. I also have the Grinner which is pretty good and would be a nice fit for anybody who likes the WLF-2. The Huginn is pretty bad tbh. It wasn't great before the clans and it is even worse now. The only way I ever see it being better if is they allow clan weapons to be mounted on IS mechs in the future. I absolutely regret buying that one.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
yw :) Grinner's a good buy. My WLF-2 usually does better because the energy heatgen quirk allows it to output more damage over the course of the game. Overall hero lights I feel are usually not worth it unless you like lights. With a CBill bonus, even a good hero light will often end up with the same CBill earnings as a good non-hero heavy/assault.
@jjoshaugh
@jjoshaugh 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a Filthy Inner Sphere runner, but I have to admit the must consistently fun hero mech in my Collection is the Misery Stalker. Its just get a wonderful combination of Firepower and maneuverability. Its actually a bit crap, but the Pretty Baby is kinda fun as well, that massive Torso Turning ability is always a laugh.
@brunossace4317
@brunossace4317 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with your list, a few of my favorites, Wolfhound Grinner, Grasshopper Mjolnir and my most favorite Cataphract Iliya muromets.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
I thought about buying the IM this sale. Couldn't really find a build on it that's neither a near duplicate of the other CTFs nor gimmicky. Maybe some suggestions?
@silverhawk7324
@silverhawk7324 5 жыл бұрын
Urban K-9, Grinner is one of the best light mechs
@Grottenolm
@Grottenolm 6 жыл бұрын
No.1 ist the K-9 ! Nothing can beat the light and sound ;)
@deeber3960
@deeber3960 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. In your more recent videos, your voice seems to maintain a more consistent volume level throughout each sentence; previously, it seemed like you would start your sentences speaking relatively loudly but then quickly drop in volume. Whatever it is that you've changed (vocal technique, equipment setting, or something else), it's made your narrative much easier to listen to-so thank you. :)
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. It could be a physical reason. I have a breathing problem that limits my energy (oxygen intake?) from time to time. I would sometimes lose my breath by the end of the sentence before. I underwent a procedure to reduce the problem a few months ago. Maybe it helped.
@deeber3960
@deeber3960 6 жыл бұрын
Hi BlackhawkSC, thanks for your openness; I hope the treatment will make a positive long-term difference to your life, and look forward to hearing more of your analyses of MWO. o7
@falcorusticolus4360
@falcorusticolus4360 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite hero Mech is the Cataphract CTF-IM "Ilya Muromets" for one simple reason. At the time I bought it it was the only Mech in MWO that could carry three AC/10's. The combination of the heavy punch of three AC/10's and the rapid fire, along with manageable heat make it one of my favorite "Dakka" builds.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about the IM for this sale, but the classic triple 10 build makes you run a slow XL and you have to expose the low and wide left arm. There's no other builds on the IM that I can think of that isn't just a duplicate of another CTF....
@falcorusticolus4360
@falcorusticolus4360 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people like the classic "chainsaw" build of three UAC/5s and three Medium Lasers. :)
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
At least I can go to an LFE with that one while still having to use that left arm. I'll think hard about it :D
@Borengar629
@Borengar629 5 жыл бұрын
It should be mentioned though that you are rarely given the opportunity to play the Sleipnir and the Deathstrike if you do play with groups due to tonnage restrictions. I would rather recommend medium to heavy heroes.
@neogoterra
@neogoterra 6 жыл бұрын
I would personally suggest the timber wolf hero, warrant it has good blend of weapon hard points with good mobility and armor giving it alot of build flexibility and is rather easy to use.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
The Warrant is a decent choice too
@aethermech4585
@aethermech4585 6 жыл бұрын
Saint Ives Blues. For when you absolutely have to have 65t of armor on a 45t mech with enough base firepower quirks to equal like 20 points on the firepower tree :D
@conanthegamer
@conanthegamer 6 жыл бұрын
What!!! No Firebrand?! I demand a recount! ; )
@johnmoore8599
@johnmoore8599 6 жыл бұрын
I had not considered the EBJ hero. Perhaps I need to reconsider. I have all the others. Probably time to cull my LBKs and HBRs down to the C-bill bonus variants since I have too many of those mechs. I haven't touched the Black Knight since your video on it. The Piranha hero isn't in the sale or it would have probably made your list. The Piranha is due for another nerf at some point, but all the streak boats around due to the Flea are keeping the Piranhas in check to an extent. I expect July will be interesting since the Piranha comes out for C-bills then.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
The Cipher would make it here - with the caveat that you have to be a decent light pilot. Lots of people aren't good light pilots and they'll earn more with a hero heavy/assault :) Be careful when you sell mechs though, even though LBKs are omnis, PGI has given set-of-8 quirks to specific omnis that made them better.
@sdferwte234
@sdferwte234 6 жыл бұрын
Heavy Metal.... for fun.... Legend Killer for C-Bills :)
@JoshMD2009
@JoshMD2009 6 жыл бұрын
Would probably add the Pakhet, Lacerator and Reaver on this list as honorable mentions. And of course the K9. ^_^
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Lacerator perhaps. Scorch and Mjolnir were my next two I think. I'm close to buying a K9 for the lulz but not there yet.
@LordWusu
@LordWusu 6 жыл бұрын
GHR-MJ good hard points, has bonus dakka arm, JJ great for jump sniping or direct laser vom and is tank to boot. This might be me but Grasshoppers seem to be able to roll 20 for overheat too.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
No energy quirks for the Mjolnir makes it worse than the Grasshopper 5H. But it's still decent overall due to the same high mounts. It would have been a recommend if it weren't for the 5H I think.
@LordWusu
@LordWusu 6 жыл бұрын
BlackhawkSC yeah and I miss that but the missing energy in the arm strangely seems to help but I have many hours in mine so there is that. Good vid keep it up mate!
@obygdengaming
@obygdengaming 6 жыл бұрын
Triple LBX10 Black Widow and quad LBX10 Sleipnir FTW!
@mpzajo
@mpzajo 6 жыл бұрын
For the fun mechs I'd add the Pirate's Bane (and it's cheap). Don't you consider the Scorch viable? Quite a brawler with 2xUAC10 & 4xSRM6. Useful video, thanks.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
I'd run the 2xUAC10 2xERPPC or 2xGauss 2xLPL build on the Scorch at the moment. Assault brawl is kind of weak right now but of course these kinds of builds will have their moments. Midrange dakka or laser vomit is going to be more generally useful. However my issue with the Scorch is that the MAD-IIC and MAD-IIC-A are better. My Scorch guide is a bit outdated b/c of meta shifts but still worth taking a look at for ideas kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZDKY6SYiN6LkJo
@olivermacke838
@olivermacke838 6 жыл бұрын
LCT-PB. Reason: It has never been bad under any meta.
@ParheliaDay
@ParheliaDay 6 жыл бұрын
Archer hero with stelth armor, loaded with mrms or srms, and medium lasers.
@darrenskjoelsvold
@darrenskjoelsvold 6 жыл бұрын
What about the Scorch? I think that it is an excellent hero and versatile. A pretty fun build is 2 lb 10s and 2 er PPCs or you can do all kinds of missiles (my preference is SRMs but if you are going to do LRMs or ATMs at least slap some LPLs on the arms. I prefer the classic though, LB 20s and SRM 6s. Whatever you do with it the mech is durable and does damage a plenty.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, see other comments below. I'll probably pin a comment about my opinion on the Scorch.
@darrenskjoelsvold
@darrenskjoelsvold 6 жыл бұрын
Ahh, cool. :) Thanks... I know I've really enjoyed the Scorch and with an aggressive team the mech really does well with the brawling build. But for a less well, good, player they can still have a good result I think with 4 LRM 15s or 20s and 2 LPLs, or maybe ER PPCs but those require too much aiming for a less skilled player. But as they get better they can move towards a more brawling based build or even do a sort of mid range version of it with ATMs and perhaps some lighter ballistics like LB 5s or whatever... But the mech has good versatility and can be used by skilled players and potatoes alike.
@clanys4652
@clanys4652 6 жыл бұрын
Is that the Tyrian bgm?
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Yuuup
@pvtmustaqim
@pvtmustaqim 6 жыл бұрын
Pirates bane is best mech. Meme af.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
What about K9? Even more meme-y?
@pvtmustaqim
@pvtmustaqim 6 жыл бұрын
BlackhawkSC yessir
@ratofnihm
@ratofnihm 6 жыл бұрын
K-9 is a thing of glory. I'm furiously trying to get loot bags so I can win MC to get the little bit I need to buy it while it's on sale. haha
@VanguardDetonados
@VanguardDetonados 5 жыл бұрын
i missed the scorch and the pirate's bane on your list =/
@mikronbus3239
@mikronbus3239 6 жыл бұрын
Does the Street Cleaner count as a hero? It's the only Urbie you can actually play as a light. Max engine, speed tweak and full JJ with max DPS builds work well. I like 3 MPL and light MG or 3SL and AC2.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
It's not available for purchase individually as of yet. Will be in the future I assume.
@nilstryfe7067
@nilstryfe7067 6 жыл бұрын
I have just enough MC to buy an assault hero and a bay, and I cannot choose between the Slepnir and the Deathstrike. It's tearing me apart.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
DS will probably give you more longevity
@nilstryfe7067
@nilstryfe7067 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what I'll do.
@homelessEh
@homelessEh 6 жыл бұрын
nice music :) theres an easter egg in this post lol only thing i'v ever uploaded contains megaman music lol.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Hahah
@gfarrell80
@gfarrell80 6 жыл бұрын
Quad LB10X on your Sleipnir or bust!
@_ghost1e
@_ghost1e 2 жыл бұрын
for anyone who’s watching this nowadays: MCII-DS is still great HBR-VI is still good CP-S is just mediocre now compared to other assaults WHM-BW is still good EBJ-EC is niche, but pretty good
@QwertyCaesar
@QwertyCaesar 6 жыл бұрын
Any medium recommendations? I am looking for something a bit more scrappy than my peek/poptart Shawk and more viable than my loyalty Centurion. The High Roller seems pretty good.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Depends on your playstyle I guess. Ghillie has ECM and carries OK firepower. Maybe a UAC10 ERML build. Sparky and Lacerator for laser poke. High Roller could do a nice 4xERML 2xUAC5 build.
@deanclark8783
@deanclark8783 6 жыл бұрын
For an impressively durable mech the High Roller should be a good option, especially when the survival skill nodes are taken. While as I mentioned in an earlier post that I own the BSW-X1(S) so I don't own the High Roller, many of the builds I use in it can fit the High Roller: Dual AC10, Dual LB10X, AC20+SNPPC, HGauss, and Dual RAC5s to name a few builds. Plus with the three energy hardpoints in the arm you can tweak a build to add an extra 3 ton, 15 point alpha (triple MLs).
@alecschmidt7241
@alecschmidt7241 6 жыл бұрын
I am loving both my High Roller and BSW-X1(S). The High Roller works better if you like mid range fire support or skirmishing (big ballistic/double uac plus 4 energy), and the BSW-X1(S) is a better brawler (AC20+multiple missile pods). I regularly out-duel heavies because of their insane durability. Weapon convergence for the torso mounts is fantastic, but peaking can be dangerous with a missile build because of the prominent torso launcher. They don't have weapon quirks so inevitably something will specialize better than the Bushwhacker, but nothing in the weight class has the same survivability.
@NazgulGnome
@NazgulGnome 5 жыл бұрын
You should split this IS and Clan lists. 4 out of 5 of the mechs you reccomend are clan mechs
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 5 жыл бұрын
There are two IS mechs out of 5.
@NazgulGnome
@NazgulGnome 5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackhawkSC whoops. I missed the cyclops while watching. It would still be nice to have it broken into two categories.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 5 жыл бұрын
No problem. I kind of ran out of mechs after this list because they didn't perform as well as their CBill counterparts. K9 and IV4 would have been my next two but they're not must-haves if you want serious earning potential.
@BeholdTheFlesh
@BeholdTheFlesh 6 жыл бұрын
dat tyrian soundtrack
@22xjake
@22xjake 6 жыл бұрын
No scorch? I mean it's got that awesome srm 6 and lbx 20 build and if you want mid range you can always use ac 10's and other stuff I guess the major downsdie is the price
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
It's good just not that good. The CBill MAD IICs are better, like the -A and base variant.
@22xjake
@22xjake 6 жыл бұрын
BlackhawkSC different play styles I guess. Guess I like my mechs a little more brawly and less laser vomit even though I guess vomit is more versatile
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
Assault brawl is not in a great state at the moment due to agility nerfs and SRM+Artemis nerf. They have their moments but they're inconsistent. Getting a map like Polar, Alpine or Grim with lots of open spaces and long to midrange lines of sight, assault brawlers have to spend a lot of time hiding and doing not very much or spend a lot of time finding attack angles where they're not getting shot by 4 enemy mechs at the same time.
@22xjake
@22xjake 6 жыл бұрын
BlackhawkSC your right that it isn't for every map which is why I tend to run ac 10's instead of the lbx 20's. Honestly with everyone voting hpg , Solaris, and mining I haven't had too many issues. Your right about laser vomit being the happy medium that works on all maps (right now) though
@ljessecusterl
@ljessecusterl 6 жыл бұрын
Yup. Took a Scorch brawl build and wound up on Polar Highlands. Fun was not had. Brawling Assaults depends on good timing and teamwork, and you're not assured of it not falling apart even when you're in a group with friends. But when it works, it's incredible.
@jhwheuer
@jhwheuer 5 жыл бұрын
Blackhawk, u going to do an update for this guide?
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 5 жыл бұрын
I'd probably swap positions for the Sleipnir and Deathstrike right now. But the list would remain the same.
@SkinnyBlackout
@SkinnyBlackout 6 жыл бұрын
You only got the deathstrike right. The other one is the scorch. Everything else is objectively much much worse and isn't worth a dime unless these two are nerfed into the oblivion.
@sw00din44
@sw00din44 6 жыл бұрын
Jester was my first hero
@kristokirov
@kristokirov 6 жыл бұрын
Virago. Optimal HBR.
@davidjkelly1971
@davidjkelly1971 5 жыл бұрын
Howz Deathstrike these dayz?
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 5 жыл бұрын
It's good, but not as good as before because of the meta shift in the upper tiers to more DPS instead of alpha size. In the lower tiers, midrange alpha size matters more since teams are more passive and stay at range.
@jeffhu8366
@jeffhu8366 6 жыл бұрын
I see what your mean, but if I don't have enough MC, which Varient of EBJ do you suggest?
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
EBJ-A makes you buy the least number of omnipods to make the laser vomit build.
@jeffhu8366
@jeffhu8366 6 жыл бұрын
BlackhawkSC Yeah, and i guess it can run the other helpful build with ultra AC 10 and two ultra AC 5, that's the only two variable build EBJ can use well?
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't have the Espirit de Corps (EDC) hero, you won't be able to do the 10/5 build very well due to lack of ammo. This is because you need a 3rd ballistic hardpoint and that can only be found on the LA on the non-hero omnipods. If you do that then you have to armor up the LA, which causes you to lose some tonnage. You can do 2xUAC10 and 3xERMLs as an alternative without the EDC omnipods.
@jeffhu8366
@jeffhu8366 6 жыл бұрын
BlackhawkSC I think I can have enough tonnage for ammo by lower the armor on the leg. Is leg armor really important in the game?
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
@@jeffhu8366 yes it's more important than ever now for two reasons. Small lights like Piranhas and Fleas like to hug really close to targets so they can't get shot by torso weapons. When they're that close, they can only shoot what's in front of them, which is legs. Second because of the way LRMs arc downwards, whenever you're running away from LRMs, they'll mostly hit legs. Since the LRM buffs a few months ago, more people are carrying them. Players have always done things like put in a shot on the leg to test leg armor by seeing how much the color changes with a small amount of damage. They know a lot of players skimp on legs.
@MrSoulpolo
@MrSoulpolo 5 жыл бұрын
Dragon Flame is nice too
@UrbanCommando
@UrbanCommando 5 жыл бұрын
Hi do you have skill guides?
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 5 жыл бұрын
I have a skill tree guide before they redid a lot of the values. So maybe another one is in order
@stormthrush37
@stormthrush37 6 жыл бұрын
All the mechs listed are heavies or assaults, so I think this list is s bit biased.
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
None of the lights and mediums really pay for themselves. That is, you probably would earn more over time using one of the CBill variants.
@amigo3284
@amigo3284 5 жыл бұрын
What about the Parana?
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 5 жыл бұрын
I think the PIR hero gets outperformed by the -1 but it's also a good choice
@nicobehrndt4650
@nicobehrndt4650 6 жыл бұрын
K-9 with light gauss(2,5t ammo) + 2 medium lasers. With all skills in range and cooldown you got an range of 1090m and 1/3 of the regulary gauss cooldown. He is the one and only hero mech in this game=D
@BlackhawkSC
@BlackhawkSC 6 жыл бұрын
If you engage at long range, how will the K9 apprehend the offending fool?
@g3heathen209
@g3heathen209 6 жыл бұрын
no k9 it such a fun mech though.
@privatehand
@privatehand 6 жыл бұрын
The 'mech is only as good as the player.
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