Scariest Build so far! Orion IIC-A - Mechwarrior Online The Daily Dose

[@JoshMD2009]

I'd also recommend at least one level of seismic sensors. You're just one click away! ^_^

[@HandSolitude]

"I don't want to expose myself... yet" - Baradul

[@ytbobo31]

That was hilarious to see the Orion in the middle of 6 enemy mechs in the first game and not being a priority, lol. I guess the Orion isn't a scary looking mech... big, ugly, and asymmetrical = unattractive = nice plus in mwo :-)

[@bonzwah1]

an atlas pushed with him. they good at drawing aggro.

[@brett76544]

I like how you are not stressing the firepower skills and showing off the other skill trees. Some people for get about mobility, and that is when they find out just how deadly LRMs can be.

[@joekehr4269]

Well, that was very entertaining! :-D Thanks! Just a little comment on your initial overview: The tree and the percentages are a bit abstract. If you point out the actual armor points and specifically the bonus (+26 for CT armor, +22 for side torsos, etc.) this would really drive the point home. Particularly if you put it in perspective (unleveled Dire Wolf has about the same CT armor?). I mean - in your recent video on the Atlas the central point was: 111 CT Structure (while having only 15 points more CT armor than this 75t-Orion build). Also, thanks for pointing out the screen shake thing! Most people are not really aware that of the extent of those skill nodes (although they are usually forced upon you by the structure of the tree and I'd skip them if Speed Retention wasn't more useless).

[@timeravager]

I wanted to use an Orion IIC for a long time and finally got one. Thanks , that building is a beast ! Talk about close range heavy weaponry and endurance... It really made me go easy on the current event. Better use it now before it gets nerfed ! Though I don't own one, it seems Gargoyles are back. Saw some guy pulling over 1100 damage with a GAR-D, close range weapons too. With the new skill tree, maybe it could get covered on one of your future videos.

[@Artificer1911]

I ninja'd my way onto a video! I had 2 ams on my jav to cover you guys from missiles. I was mostly there to do that and amplify damage. Oh, and "secure" kills when possible.

[@xxgrimriverxx9845]

Glad to see brawling is making a comeback with the tree, hopefully it'll give those ERPPC+GR metaheads a run for their money. lol

[@zarcon5750]

This is what I knew would happen when good Clan mechs got the skills....sheesh. Pain Train.

[@afendz]

demmit baradul, that was like a 1-2 knockout punch...geez...scary!!...

[@Blackcat70_]

I swear Baradul, its like your invisible. Just such a feel for attention is being cast and always in the right place at the right time. I'm SUCH a noob at this game, but have played long enough to see and learn from all of this.

[@DrakeSlator]

Can't wait to see what you do with a Roughneck or Shadow Cat with the new Skill Tree. =)

[@osakashogun1371]

There is an interesting effect if you put 8 points on the rear STs, it only takes away one point from the front and the max armor jumps from 81/86 to 82/87, FYI.

[@osakashogun1371]

Orion IIC A was always my favorite LRM mech for when I was in that mood, so I bought another one to try this out.

[@Grinchpryde]

I did nearly the same build (350 xl engine, 2 ermlasers for shooting down uavs) in the faction play event and rekt alot stuff with it, one game I depleted all my ammo what is normally really rare.

[@Rutarian]

I love this build! Same way I have mine set-up. Hits so damn hard!

[@michaelmuller8494]

The Orion IIC has armor quirks for at least half a year and still has :-) One of the few reasons to use it over a Timberwolf. (10 vs 15 fixed HS) Orion has more tonnage because of the smaller engine. Timberwolf has higher hard points though.

[@arsarma1808]

If he's going over 81 and has more armor, and you can put at least 4 heat sinks in that engine, the Orion IIC is just a better mech.

[@CsendPenge]

So many firepower! Well played :)

[@BlueWizi]

You should give the Victor a look with the new skill system. Its amazing. Skilled into Agility and Survivability. It has as much armor as the Atlas (less structure though), and the torso speed, acceleration, and turn speed are INSANE now.

[@Baradul]

The Victor is on the list already :) Also new missile tubes *hype hype*

[@Borengar629]

Really love your videos and I wish you all the best for your plans to go yt fulltime. I wonder if you are willing to do a short how to video for the skill tree because I gotta admit that I struggle a bit in understanding it. There are so many "currencies" that are involved in it. There are XP, SP, HSP, HXP whatever that all might be. I had to take a 6 months break from the game because I've become father. Yesterday I finally made it back into the game but was overwhelmed by the amount of data to process so to say^^ A litte bit of help there would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance :)

[@TheSWDarkstone]

This build says push or be pushed aside.

[@buhatkj]

didnt have the SP for teh skill build, but Put a variation on this on my IIC, and you're right, its very effective!

[@zarcon5750]

Btw...how are we going to model up the new Gear/Tech/Mechs going forward? I've heard rumors that Smurfy has stopped playing the game, so will the new Tech get updated on his site? I think it'll be pretty hard to play this game without Smurfy because I LOVE theory crafting. :) Like for instance, can I outfit my Atlas with a Light Fusion Engine and then stick in an Ultra AC/20 and 3 MRM20's? :) I'm hoping yes.

[@texastony1946]

Tanky tough, fast as hell, lots of firepower. We will see a lot of these mechs on the battlefield. I better go buy one.

[@hersaint1993]

Great video and build. Thanks for the Daily Dose!

[@michaelheld7601]

I think the skilling of the armor/structure tree is a little exaggerated. The upper right part only bears 4 good skills (armor and structure) and 5 bad or "not so good" skills imo (Shock absorbance, casing). I would take the ams overload in the middle (yes, absolutely useless) to be able to skill the lower right side of the tree (5 good skills out of 7 overall). I would also leave the far left side unskilled ( 2 good skills out of 4 = 50% ratio = bad). One might consider casing a good skill or "half a good skill" of course". Just a thought... With the spared SP one could skill other stuff like target retention or seismic sensors (!!!) for example. Those come in handy if you are brawling sometimes :). I know.... Mr.Smartass on tour.... sorraaay! Can't help myself. I might be wrong. Don't hate me please :D

[@Ishlacorrin]

Just a note, if you skill into more internal structure but not the anti crit casing then you die really fast to LBX and Machine Guns the second you lose your armour. TBH the whole tree (except AMS O, and maybe Shock A) is worth the points.

[@michaelheld7601]

Can someone please figure out how casing decreases critical hit chances overall and then tell Baradul so that he can make a video that i can watch? :D Totally get the idea. I just can't tell how deep of an impact casing has atm because i don't know what these numbers are actually saying.... "There is a 25% chance of causing 1 critical hit, a 14% chance of causing 2 critical hits, and a 3% chance of causing 3 critical hits (for a total of a 42% chance of any sort of critical hit)" SRC: www.reddit.com/r/mwo/comments/13wica/how_crits_work_according_to_pgi_authoritative/ So how does casing exactly(!) translate into crit hit chance?? There are multiple options to do the math now.. and even if it works in the best kind of ways: if they come with LBXs or MGs, i am somewhat doubting that 8 out of 8 (instead of 4 out of 8 on my tree) will protect the components efficiently... And what is " Seismic Sensoer +100"???? Meters? Percent?? Inch?? Soemwhat half of +200?!? (wasn't it 240m radius before?) Is UAV duration in seconds? How much is standard UAV range these days?? How many "strategic strike No. of shells" are coming down if i don't skill??? Someone please let me know :).

[@beetamusmaximus1663]

People are always saying that IS has the edge in brawling over clan, but what IS mech of of similar weight can compare with this?

[@aktetv9212]

The IS Orion XD

[@hersaint1993]

Zeus SRM build? But its 80 ton I think?

[@bonzwah1]

Beetamus Maximus i mean what people "always say" are clearly based on the gamestate prior to the skill tree haha. so its a bit nonsensical to judge what was said before based on what you are witnessing now. that said, we will see how the skill tree plays out over on the IS side. maybe there will be a brawler of even greater magnitude arriving soon. and once the tech update arrives complete with inner sphere light engines, lbx 20, uac 20, etc. the game state will change drastically again.

[@VanBurenPhilips]

I play way more IS than Clan, so I'm not sure. I always wondered why we didn't see more clan brawlers in faction play, because their brawly weapons are perfectly capable, a lot lighter and no hotter - some of the guys I played with said it was because they didn't have the armour/structure quirks. Even so, the Orion IIC and Highlander IIC were bloody great at it in the old skill system (just two examples I own, I'm sure there are more). Having played every type of build except LRM boats in all of the IS Orions and IICs... it pains me to say it, but the IIC is significantly better.

[@dionisioherculeopersepoles3117]

Zeus 5S with STD 315, 3 LPL and 3SRM4 (with better spread than clan srm4+A). You can basically perma fire the 3LPS at midrange, and you have crazy +30 CT and +20 side torso quirks. Got 1460 with it today. Or you can go AC 10 + 3 SRM 6+A and 3 ML, also a beast. Or you can go full tryhard and play a battlemaster laservomit poke build and deal 70 dmg alphas while exposing 1% of your frame, and I assure you you'll never complain about IS ever again.

[@MrTotalAhole]

Finally the huge body of the onion is offset by some "quirks".

[@LtZerge]

Oh boy it's splat-cats all over again. God have mercy on us all

[@RenzorTheRed]

This is a similar loadout to my Scorch, but it's faster and more heat efficient...

[@perry92964]

the beginning of the end of the game, the skill tree, in less then a month player pop was cut in half

[@shadowfire246]

The the lrm meta in my maurader iic I'm packing an ams with two points into ams overload and I'm surprised by how well ams functions now. I don't have any tests to back this up but I feel like i take significantly less damage now with just 1 ams system.

[@ChurchAutoTest]

I've found that, between the potato LRMers, slightly increased armor on most mechs, and the extra ammo you carry, my damage numbers in general are up a bit across the board. I've only skilled 3-4 of my favorite mechs to play until new tech comes out and one is a LBX10, 6 SPL Huntsman and I had a 3 game stretch yesterday where I did 773, 1142 and 1225 dmg. The last two being my best dmg ever in that mech by far, and 1225 being my best dmg ever, in any mech, let alone a 50 tonner. The sad part is, I still lost 2 of the 3 matches by at least 5 kills.....

[@zarcon5750]

Wow. It always does take me by surprise how it is quite possible to lose in the midst of an excellent individual effort. Is a team game I guess, sometimes painful that our team is made up of strangers. ;)

[@ChurchAutoTest]

That's why I joined the Militia :). That said, I think we will see higher dmg scores in general with new ST, so those numbers don't mean what they used to

[@whitewolf6605]

those are the same valuse for the IS Orion before the Quirk updates.

[@stephenhowell7029]

Great Video! Thank You!

[@DaManBearPig]

Holy shit, the meta is brawl rn

[@haylox669]

You should totally run this build again at a later date.

[@dickiedavies6870]

That is a wondrously murderous mech.👍😎

[@austenmoydell4357]

So much fire power.... so freaking fast... King crab firepower but 30kph faster lol

[@potatoguns7989]

That mech is a total beast.

[@PinWriter]

No smurfy link? BTW, a build where there's no radar derp but with high amount of AMS to destroy the lurm. Practically a bait for the lurms to deplete their ammo and therefore ignoring the rest of the group.

[@Baradul]

Thanks, I fixed that.

[@biggee316]

Damn! Straight up Mech-Mutilation

[@IIMoNsTerII7]

What are your thoughts on the new battletech game coming out? The backer beta releases june 1

[@telmosilva9161]

I still think brawlers are worse because of torso twist. This mech has always been strong, it's been for ages the 1v1 meta.

[@Harabeck]

With all the mobility skills, torso twisting gets pretty good for all but the assaults.

[@RiffDevin]

I'd love to see you do a vid for the Skoll

[@floydfoster8593]

wow, i tried it...1300+ in the first game.

[@Baradul]

Wow, good job! This Mech is just a monster now!

[@rstan30]

I gotta thank you Molten for this build. I built this and now I am averaging 700 damage a game. Seriously helped me out here :).

[@RN_SX]

this loadout is amazing so powerfull

[@darthbane9322]

I love that built

[@Mr_Fission]

BRUTAL holy crap!!!!

[@garungi6703]

best warhorn ever

[@nyanekoengine6885]

baradul pls! cyclops + probe+comand console+full sensors tree+LRM + poLaRM gaylads

[@joebab9428]

did clan really need a buff? i thought there was a reason they didnt get quirks

[@bonzwah1]

joe bab apparently the IS quirks are still there. they just scale with the skill tree. so IS mechs, to my understanding, that had armor and structure quirks before get much higher percentage bonuses from the skill tree. this orion iic looks crazy but i believe people are gonna start whipping out some tanky mofos from IS side soon. i think what pgi ended up doing in this game is that they made structure and mobility preferable over firepower for most situations. what this does is increase time to kill across the board which many people have been asking for. it also does something really cool for laser vomit and gauss ppc builds. increasing time to kill generally nerfs peaking builds compared to brawling builds. those peaking builds can try to spec into firepower to try to reduce time to kill on their opponents but by forgoing defensive stats they heavily decrease their own time to kill which sorta accentuates their strength while also accentuating their weakness. we'll see how this plays out but in theory this is perfect design philosophy. no build should be one size fits all in this game. and builds with clear strengths need clear weaknesses. i think this will go a long way toward nerfing laser vomit and gauss ppc but only time will tell. its a complex game and this community doesn't min max much so it might take some time for the meta to shift even if the gamestate favors something else

[@gfarrell80]

Increased time to kill makes lower firepower light mechs close to irrelevant.

[@bonzwah1]

lol i hope so, then maybe pgi will be forced to look at their horrendously irrelevant information warfare system, and maybe start adding and buffing utility items for light mechs to carry. like I wish flamers were more flexible to use, I wish allied sensor data provided damage bonuses (perhaps gated by the skill tree) which would create a scenario where light mechs spotting and bringing narc and/or tag would be able to assist teams without lrm's, and ecm would provide more tangible defense on the front line protecting allies from damage bonuses in direct fire engagements. light mechs shouldn't be providing personal damage. thats silly. 35 ton mechs shouldn't be doing damage remotely comparable to 50 70 and 100 tons mechs. what they should provide should synergize with their speed and size.

[@quintonmurray2293]

How would your orion 2c from #214 work now?

[@quintonmurray2293]

#219, sorry.

[@Havocme7]

Father Bill, the Twitch streamer? O.o

[@ESCfromNome]

Don't call this mech stupid! PGI might agree and nerf it.

[@crack61616]

"..he just dies!!!"voll am zähne fletschen;)))

[@jebediahspringfield7910]

why not crits on missiles ?

[@jebediahspringfield7910]

you can have +15% crits on missiles or i am mistaken ?

[@Baradul]

Only 15% bonus critical damage. And I value that not that much. If it was hit chance it'b be awesome. But I am dealing so much component damage already. I'd rather destroy the whole component than only the equipment in it.

[@jebediahspringfield7910]

I run 7x SRM 4 cyclop and i find that crit dmg pretty useful but thx for reply :)

[@chuckironsight3914]

thats my maddog build

[@javaman2022]

SO DAMN TANKY! :)

[@aktetv9212]

pffff lol 1k dmg im ertsem spiel und deine armor ist nicht mahl rot. Die Runde habe ich richtig gefeiert beim zusehen.

[@loReZize]

LRMs ar FuN !!!

[@JoshMD2009]

BOOM!

[@dexterklerx4894]

casual 1k dmg ^^ gj

[@kagapeme]

Complaining about LRM meta when using SRM's...

[@Wotinkermation]

hey can someone give me a random lance so i use in Megamek

[@bassault]

Holy shit this is broken

[@crimsonoa1]

Someone should report this mech and build to PGI for nerfing.

[@michaelcrowe6796]

I think it's time for a music change man

[@uscmpfcw.hudson9468]

o7

[@hankmoody9041]

This build is Racist!

[@drmayeda1930]

why?

[@hankmoody9041]

CNN told me.

[@Baradul]

Fake news!

[@michaelheld7601]

LOL!

[@Boaraes]

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