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Best 6.5 Creedmoor Groups I have ever done.....[TOO BAD THEY QUIT MAKING IT 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️]

[@WHOTEEWHO]

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[@ronwhittaker6317]

whoTwho bubby get a bunter and some tool to do it and you can make good brass with a little and a learning curve I'm not on the right machine/ pooter to show the examples but it can be and is done love ya my hill billy buddy take the measurement from the cartridges

[@ianturpin9180]

Go watch markandsamafterwork. He shoots the 6.5 creedmor at extreme ranges at a 2ft steel target.

[@mytoolfix]

Iam over 65 , back in my days a group was 5 shots , but with the price and availability of ammo I myself have accepted the 3 shot group as the norm

[@basketofdeplorables4253]

people pay thousands for rifles that will do those groups, doing it with budget rifles the common man has is priceless.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I love it!

[@basketofdeplorables4253]

@@andy347495 we just saw the ruger American (not a precision) that is about a 500 dollar rifle outperform the Weatherby which appears to be a 1500 dollar rifle with the same exact match grade ammo. he did it twice with the ruger on 2 seperate occasion, that is consistency, did you watch a different video than I did?

[@ChristopherKnN]

Savage always seems to pull consistent small groups as well. Some kind of black magic in their barrels.

[@basketofdeplorables4253]

@@FreshPwncakez there is no such rifle that will shoot like that on every group, you cant just go buy a multi thousand dollar rifle and grab a box of the cheapest ammo and expect half inch groups. the correct ammo recipe is the key for the best results for even the most expensive rifles to shoot .5 moa, most precision rifle manufacturers will only guarantee .5 moa with a particular type and brand of ammo.

[@MrJtin69]

Facts

[@bestestusername]

Reminds me of my 6.5mm swedish mauser 1912 model. I was hitting a 6in gong everytime over iron sights at 100m i could not miss, i was so giddy with excitement

[@kentgoldings]

You need to measure the muzzle velocity out of that gun. That way, you can replicate the load. Hornady still makes the 140 gr. HPBT match bullets. They probably can charge more for the ELD loads. My Ruger American 308 shoots Federal Premium 168 gr. Sierra HPBT match about 0.5 MOA pretty consistently. It shoots 1-1.5 MOA nearly everything else I tried . I replicated that most accurate load by using Sierra bullets at Hodgdon H4895 powder and was able to stretch the 308 to 1000 yards for the first time.

[@kentgoldings]

@@sylviajones3355 My first five shots of the day for any load are always to measure muzzle velocity. The MV on cold days can be different than hotter days.

[@imeprezime1285]

What does it mean to stretch to 1000 yards? Hit 12" target consistently or 20" target consistently?

[@kentgoldings]

@@imeprezime1285 My definition. 36 inches tall, 18 inches wide, hit the target repeatedly and predictably with every shot. After that, start to measure groups.

[@nohandle257]

I CAN hand load and have all the equipment but it's more of a prepper thing for bad times. So, like you I use quite a bit of factory ammo. I've thrown away a lot of money on ammo that just doesn't group well in my rifles. The only cartridges I consistently find do well are Nosler. High dollar though. I did get one box of Federal Terminal Ascent for my Creedmoor and the two shots I fired from that box were right in the center of the bull and touching. I'm saving that box for special occasions. I ran 4 clicks up and am pretty sure I'll be an inch high at 100.

[@rgthomson1]

Your weatherby has the hallmarks of moving in the stock, check and torque screws and if it moves about in stock when screws out throw some JB weld at it just to secure it while torqued down

[@s.alexander3284]

Gotta love that creedmoor! Nice shooting! That ruger is a pretty good shooting rifle. Can't go wrong with Nikon glass. I zero mine in at 200 yards. Fun video. It would be interesting to see what the Grendel can do compared with CM.

[@olenpittman21]

I commented before on a video about this in my 450 bushmaster and how well it shot. Every gun I ever shot this ammo out of it groups good. Never had one brand shoot so good in everything I've ever tried it in. Glad that you had the same results. Great video wtw!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Olen

[@jeremyproper15]

Cant wait got ruger american predator 6.5 creedmoor

[@WHOTEEWHO]

One is in this video...

[@RMM--uv7uk]

Hornady also has the same bullet in the "American Gunner Ammunition". Same 140gr BTHP. Its just not Match Grade.

[@scottcooksey5284]

I'm not sure the Hornady black is match grade, is it? I thought it was more like tactical ammo with low flash propellant and such. ???

[@allthingsconsidered3211]

You can buy them in large ammo boxes too. Hornady blacks slogan “america runs on black” So dont think its match. Decent, never have had issues with both. Shoots accurately too

[@mbonneau79]

Regarding the Mark V - is the barrel free floated? Most Weatherby rifles should have a pressure point on the stock in the barrel channel. I find the easiest way to fix an inaccurate Mark V or Vanguard is to remove the pressure point and ensure the barrel is floating in the channel. But it's rare that I've seen a Weatherby shoot poorly anyways, they're usually all really nice shooters.

[@kelceadowning2243]

Anytime you want, my door is always open! I got quite a few bing bangs and boolots to fling as well. I have a couple places we could stretch out some long range. Nice monster truck by the way!

[@jacobmartin1951]

Literally my favourite channel! Don't ever change man, great shooting!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks so much Jacob! Appreciate you watching!

[@getoffmylawn8986]

I'm a long time 6.5 Creedmoor fan...(sissy? Hadn't heard that one!) It's incredibly gratifying when the rifle, the ammo AND shooter all get synchronized perfectly and this is the result. Happened to me a few times...once with handloads in .300 Weatherby mag, 165 grain Hornady Interlocks I actually shot a 3 shot group measuring .333 at 100 yards. My wife was watching and thought I'd missed!

[@adammccollum8740]

try the hornady 140 eld match , It shoots well under moa with my tikka, after a while I started making my own. with the same 140 round and I shoot about .25 moa at 100 consistently

[@allenkeskinen6174]

You could get your reloader buddies to replicate it for you. Their loads would likely be even more consistent in you Weatherby.

[@joshp8395]

We've had great luck and best groups with Hornady match 140 grain in 6.5 creedmoor with my son's creedmoor.

[@michaellane1661]

Great shooting WTW! That’s some awesome ammo brother!🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@bretgeidel613]

I have used that hornady black in my 6.5 Grendel and 450 Bushmaster and 556 I have always had good luck with it. I even took the 450 Bushmaster to 300 yards with good success.

[@smittysmith4828]

That's what you call a giggle group....see the group and instantly giggle to yourself and say whoooo, yeah boy

[@Aubrey_Yates]

That was some awesome shooting. Looks like you found the ammo your Ruger likes. My Bergara likes Federal Gold Medal Berger 6.5 Creedmoor, if only it wasn't so expensive and hard to find. I was lucky to score several boxes before it disappeared. I am thinking when the honeymoon is over with your new 6.5 Grendel you might come back to the 6.5 CM. 😆

[@chrislang5659]

Took dad to the range yesterday. Wanted to try out some groups with the AR 16" 1-9 twist. 62 grn out performed the 55. One inch group at 100 yrds on the bench no sled. Needless to say I think I will stick with the 62. I have some 45 grn that I forgot to bring and will test it later but don't expect anything better.

[@chrislang5659]

@@brandonhouston3683 if I could ever find it I'd buy it. Really don't like on-line shopping!

[@chrislang5659]

@@brandonhouston3683 100 miles away#?*!

[@chrislang5659]

@@brandonhouston3683 wow! I live pretty far from just about everything 😌

[@chrislang5659]

@@brandonhouston3683 went Saturday to the local gun shop. They wanted $25.00 a box of 20 rounds .556 62 grn. Winchester white box! I left with nothing.

[@chrislang5659]

@@brandonhouston3683 I'm pretty far south. Halfway between San Antonio and Laredo.

[@kenbrown4954]

I have 3 budget 6.5 cms.a mosberg patriot ,a cva scout , and a cva scout pistol ..all 3 are very accurate , but that pistol is a blast to shoot.

[@lvlpkr]

Great video again wtw, would love to see you try a Sauer, their model 100 pulls great groups out of my particular bing bang, they come in a variety of cals. I'd love to see a Sauer 100 in 9.3x62

[@carterthiessen2664]

Never shot the hornady black but ive handloaded many of those 140gr hornady BTHP bullets. They shoot really good out of every rifle I've tried, including 2 different ruger Americans. Group im most proud of was with this bullet, 2.75 inches at 500 yards.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome!!!

[@Rickkari7]

Same with 6.5 Grendel. The black is ELD match, although I saw some random black bthp pop up a couple times on the internet and then sell out fast. Must be the surplus. Not on website either.

[@johnallen8618]

I've been watching the channel a while now, and I've come to the opinion that the Ruger American is a awesome rifle, some of the groups that you get with them is outstanding, keep up the good work 😎

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching John!

[@mikefair816]

Big fan of Hornady Match140gr. Also have very good groups with Freedom Munitions 140gr match.

[@estright9293]

Such a good looking stock

[@chrishelms1967]

Was able to finally find 3 boxes of 143gr Hornady Precision Hunter in 6.5 the other day

[@davidrussell631]

I’ve got the same exact Ruger, so I’m not surprised one bit.

[@Eric--zs6um]

Looking gd at 200. Glad you had great day at the range. My Axis in 2506 does extremely well with 110gr ELDX. Not as gd with other factory sinkers. That's the nature of this hobby. Enjoy!

[@kjw882]

I've shot plenty of different 6.5 ammo out of my rifle to see what it liked. Luckily for me, the Hornady black shot the best and was $20 a box at the time and i stocked up on it

[@Chris_Garman]

Now you know why you need to start handloading. You could reproduce that loading yourself.

[@danielolivera4796]

For what I've seen in the comments of the previous video and this one many fans want you to reload some ammo, I think it would be a great video series you reloading and slinging the reloads down range

[@denveready3486]

I had the same patterns out of my weatherby in 243 at 100 , it would alway put 2 together and 3rd and forth would be sprayed , I put it down to barrel heating up as the weatherby barrels do taper out thinly towards the muzzle compared to other manufactures

[@michaelmeyers1827]

I really love my 6.5 in my howa. I did buy another in a howa in 6 mm creedmore it’s my new favorite

[@tylerhouston7617]

Yeah my dad's ruger 243 shoots golf balls consistently at 100 yards, my savage axis 223 shoots half inch groups with most ammo, only reason I got a new rifle is the savage has a 6 lb trigger but I've shot a deer, coyote and bobcat straight in the heart at 100 and 150 yards so that's all I need,

[@davidorpwood8433]

check the speed of the black box ammo .pull one round out & measure the powder load ,& get someone that dose reloading to tell you what the powder looks like go to a good reloading book & see what comes close .remember faster is not always better good luck//

[@rgh470]

Great video Adam, It's sometimes crazy how with some rifles you can look forever to find the ammo that particular rifle likes, and with some rifles they like everything, or hate everything! So far I've had success finding the best loads (factory) for everything that that I own, and when I find that ammo I buy as much of it as I possibly can! If I were you I'd be trying to get as much of that Hornady Black as I possibly can. Just my 2 cents Side note, I own a couple of Weatherbys, I definitely have difficulty getting them to b be sub MOA, Federal Fusions seem to shoot best , but definitely not my most accurate toy in the safe, that honor goes to a SAVAGE AXIS, go figure .

[@ChrisJones-fm6wp]

I just bought 4 boxes of this at academy. It's the exact same thing as the American Gunner. They didn't stop making either, it's just super hard to find because it gets snapped up so fast. Before 2020, this was my go-to practice ammo for my PRS rifle. It's a little slower and has a lower BC than the eld-m, but out to 600 it's almost identical drop and windage wise. Sadly, it's not $20 a box anymore. Also, the Hornady 4dof app is free and has the BC values of every round Hornady makes. You just plug in your rifle and velocity( you can't go by what's on ANY ammo box) and it will give you everything you need to get your drop and wind data.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

They pulled it off their website because they quit making I am 99% sure. Ah just read your entire message. You are correct. They did "stop making it" but it is now under another name yes

[@ChrisJones-fm6wp]

@@WHOTEEWHO there probably wont be now, but its in stock on the academy website

[@davidanderson3875]

I’ve had some amazing results from Hornady black ammo. I also have a Weatherby Vanguard (25’06) and it is one of my absolute favorite rifles! ...and that’s their economy rifle

[@ChuckinSteel]

If you would acclimate the bbls to that specific ammo, you will get even better groups. They say 10 shots will do it. I understand that's a lot of ammo but if your chasing groups they will get better as long as you don't shoot other rounds through it.

[@charlesharvel4339]

Started sight'n in my new Ruger American 6.5 creedmoor today. Went to Walmart got a centerpoint 6 to 20 by 50 scope, loving it so far. Also loving your videos keep them coming.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome!

[@lightweight1974]

The Weatherby...just an observation. First cartridge in the mag each time looked like it had some trouble seating. This would have been the last shot each group, the flyers so to speak. Is the bullet getting 'damaged'? Maybe the internal mag is a bit short?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Possibly

[@kelceadowning2243]

Crazy how the Ruger American out performs the Weatherby! I have a few Ruger Americans and love them! I’ve got a 3,500 acre lease plenty of deer hogs and turkeys! Wtw if your ever in southeast Oklahoma you have a place to hunt!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Let me know! Sounds awesome

[@brianwilliams2719]

Ruger American and Winchester XPR Can't beat the accuracy or the price range and I've owned some expensive rifle's that wouldn't shoot anywhere close to either rifle. Love both of them

[@albertlemont5471]

My reloads with that bullet shoot consistent dime size groups out of my Ruger 6.5 go wild.

[@martywood3734]

Enjoy the videos Adam I watch all the time, I’ve got a Savage axis in 6.5 cm with a Nikon whitetail hunter glass. Keep the videos coming

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Marty

[@gc641]

That ruger loves that ammo

[@nathanneumann5083]

Many years ago I did a 5 shot group the size of a nickel. 6mm with a 10x weaver scope out of a Remington 700 bdl. My personal hand loads.

[@joshpittman6021]

Cnc machines and other forms of machining have come so far. From the cheapest to the most expensive guns, both made with similar tolerances. Sure a plastic stock may not be your cup of tea,but if the gun shoots it shoots. In the world of guns cheap doesn’t mean bad I most cases.

[@erichuth117]

I got a Ruger American in 6.5 mainly thanks to your recommendation. 100 yards and one hole! With the Vortex rifle/scope package deal (like 500 bucks). Consistently 1MOA, I only go out to 200yards. Thanks

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome!

[@huntingtheancientgroundsht5653]

Check torqued on action screws, base mount, scope rings. Try running copper killer through the barrel on the weatherby. Put crap Ammo through barrel to foul it. Then shoot the Hornady black. Also try Hornady match in 147 grain ELD-M.

[@huntingtheancientgroundsht5653]

If you have any questions, contact me.

[@BUCKEYEFARMBOY54]

I am a machinist by trade…..I would simply LOVE TO see you do a ‘ David Tubbs’ bore lap treatment on either of those rifles and re do the grouping shots!!!!! I was amazed at the results on a CVA Hunter .45-70 I tried the D T treatment on!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@garrettforchrist2700]

Get a pallet of them, haha! I think the Ruger American is still winning, consistently getting closer groups!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲

[@timeverett7828]

I get those similar results from my 6.5×284 Norma with Norma factory ammo! Cooper rifle.

[@xtremearmor]

The Ruger American seems to be a sweet rifle. Nice group…👍🏻

[@droopmasterflex2822]

You really going all in on the creedmoore. Not going to lie I had the hots for it till a buddy was like bro it's nothing new look at the .270 it's basically the same thing a performance is similar maybe a future video? Idk it alright but not like life-changing performance imo. Still love your work love your vids. Ty for taking the time to do it.

[@maxloader5278]

Someone told me that Crimson Trace took the place of Nikon scopes and that the Crimson Trace had the Nikon Monarch glass in them. Don't know for a fact but the Crimson Trace are one of the clearest scopes I've ever looked through. So was the Monarch from Nikon. Never was able to confirm but Monarch during it's run was the best in my opinion.

[@darkdraggon]

Said that a year ago, shooting about the same size groups with my thompson compass in 6.5 with the black. I've sent messages to Hornady asking why they quit but all I get is crickets.

[@dt3852]

Great 👍 Ruger American 6.5 Creedmoor group. 6.5 is my favorite caliber

[@tomrowley1717]

Wow Excellent! Yea buddy ya rock. Keep the good stuff coming. Appreciate ya for sure.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching Tom

[@justinweaver8787]

Love the 6.5

[@DavidMartinez-ss9yp]

6-5 Creedmoor awesome Ruger American awesome excellent shooting👍🏼

[@randyadams03]

Good results again 👏 with both rifles this time ! Weatherby very good , could tell had you really guessing why not accurate. I can't remember any Ruger American give that much grief. WTW!👍

[@onearmedbandit6936]

That is the best factory ammo my creed likes as well and it’s pretty wicked on game as well

[@KevM126]

Congratulations! Sounds like the Creedmoor got jealous of the Grendel.

[@theroundman4949]

Hey Who Tee Who, Hornaday always shoots tight in my Bing bangs 👍👍👍

[@fustyblatherskite2142]

I watch your videos all of the time. I want to buy a new rifle , possibly chambered in 6.5 Creedmore. This is the first target that you have shown with a three shot group that I considered good. I have a 75 year old rifle that has, at 100 yards, put six rounds in a hole that was the size of a dime. It is not easy to find rifles that shoot that straight.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

You must not have seen many of the videos 😝 we have a ton better than this

[@bobbyclark2809]

You need to try a Howa! You’d be impressed!

[@702havingfun]

Try some hornady spire point boatail on that mark v,they usually like that stuff

[@sean7.399]

In your opinion Ruger American/ Savage Axis/ CVA Cascade/ Winchester XPR if you can list them most favorite to least favorite ... Keep up the good content man good work 👍👍👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Cva cascade Winchester xpr Ruger american Savage axis

[@sugargoldy]

Good video that Weatherby might like handloads better than Factory loads. We need a paper plate test with that 6.5 Creedmoor because I don't think you ever made one or I can't find it.

[@scaler1179]

Have your guy that loads ammo try H4350 powder, using the same size bullet. Not sure on the weight of powder, but if your guy is good at loading, he can figure it out based on the data on the box for Hornady Black. Turns out it's the same or similar to the same powder used. Should give you similar results.

[@paulytuarte5473]

MR.WTW I’ve got a 243-300 WM and 6.5 CM is one if not my favorite caliber to shoot and yes it’s a Ruger American too who tee who.

[@whaaatno7439]

My father in laws Ruger American loves 143 grn Hornady pro hunter. Shoots one hole groups at 100. He was lucky. Not all shoot like that. When shooting factory ammo exclusively it’s hard to say the Ruger is better than the Weatherby Vanguard(Howa). It is fair to say that the Ruger shoots factory ammo better.

[@garywoodlief1976]

I have a cheap savage axis that will shoot with your ruger. The other day i shot a three shot group and it looked like you shot one time all three in one hole and tha t was not a ragged hole either. I also have the Ruger too. Both rifles shoot very good and are 6.5 CM

[@timothystrang1794]

You can buy that ammo at rural King all the time up here in Indiana I have it all the time.

[@MrRhsmike189]

That ruger is impressive. I'm curious what would happen if you dropped it in a bell and carlson stock.

[@Raya14]

Hornady match 6.5 cm 140gr eld, regardless american. Zeroed @200yds, 5rds .5". dead on, best ever ammo.

[@_JimS]

Very impressive for Hornady Boolots

[@larry648]

Ruger makes a hell of a gun.

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Those groups are awesome, nice shooting !

[@johnshields9110]

You had to hold it steady for that good of shooting, so kudo's to you! The stability of modern actions and barrels is 1/2 of it and superior powder burn rate and bullets is the rest. My oldest brother had a 30-06 target rifle with Springfield action and 5R barrel put together 50 years ago, and it would occasionally shoot better than you did, but not by much.

[@MisterTengu]

I use the 130gr eld-m bullets for my 6.5cm handloads.

[@lumpyzx2645]

I could only get .75moa with the Hornady black, I've gotten as good as .25moa with Winchester deer season xp but pretty much always shoot under .5 as long as I'm shootin good that day, RAP 6.5 CM, I sent you a pic of it a while back, it's pretty decked out in an ICD chassis and has a brake which probably helped groups by messing with harmonics. Nothin too crazy but impressive nonetheless, and for 2/3 the price and twice the accuracy from my rifle as the Hornady, plus better performance on deer, made it an easy choice for me. I really wanted to try the sellier & bellot 131 and 140gr soft point when it was 14 bucks a box but then it went up to 50 a box so never bothered to after that, maybe if they come back down I'll try em out

[@ronburnett9421]

Very good shootin that Weatherby should shoot 1 hole groups for the price difference between it and the Americans !

[@gdavis9161]

Same hole group is more than one shot that looks like one shot. One hole group is more than one shot that together make a hole bigger than the bullet.

[@madmax3645]

Same rifle same scope Hornady precision hunter or superformance hornady same results with Ruger great combo . Greetings from up north Canada

[@guardianminifarm8005]

I am impressed. Go Ruger & use the savings to get more ammo. Not knocking Weatherby but if the American can match or outperform the fancy dancy rifles and it costs less.....go Ruger.

[@chrisaerts6489]

Wow. Hornady rocks.

[@linklesstennessee2078]

Got in right on tail end mine came in today 6.5 you rember when I told you my savages don’t like Hornady that was the superformance not the match lol had to get my beets planted this evening got to take grandson in morning to shoot at a club shoot I’m just not able to shoot 100 rounds of shotgun in a certain time frame it will take me awhile to get my 6.5 up and running

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

As always another awesome video WTW.

[@timothystrang1794]

Same kind of groups I get with the same black Hornady ammo I think it's the best

[@merlinnorris817]

That's some great groups Enjoyed the video as always some rifles just shoot better than others no matter the price

[@BulletsB4Guns_2A]

This is going to be another classic video!!

[@NiteWorXTV]

A good ec tuner brake will make that a 1 hole group buddy,

[@mattloomis5386]

Hornady American Gunner 140gr BTHP shoots great, if you can find some.