US / Canadian / EU / Australian Viewers: You can get a similar chair here: amzn.to/3Lvolei The Staples Hyken is similarly priced and checks off most of the boxes. There are plenty of reviews online showcasing this chair. I just can't personally vouch for it. :)
@Shankintime3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@acdyman3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Not even close. Hyken is OK but not ergonomic. Very basic.
@IAMZERG2 жыл бұрын
@@acdyman I second this. I was initially impressed, but it hurts my butt after sitting for long periods. This thing is getting the boot and it should have happened a lot sooner.
@doctorboot7191 Жыл бұрын
mine literally just broke. the bolts pulled out of the back. the armrests are splitting. had it maybe 3 or 4 years.
@dream0darkness0133 жыл бұрын
I love how there is someone here in PH that reviews items like these, usually I watch LTT, tho, because of regional constraints, items there are usually not available, thank you and kudos HWS
@Martin-yh7vi3 жыл бұрын
Truth, I hope this channel gets bigger.
@biiiiinsgaming3 жыл бұрын
Been looking everywhere and have been researching for months. 8 years is more than enough to prove its performance! Thanks so much for sharing this!
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Best of luck to you Vince, and good idea to research hard for a chair, it's an investment in your health!
@malinbaby70113 жыл бұрын
update on the chair?:D did u end up getting it?.D
@satria29273 жыл бұрын
In order to achieve ergonomic experience in your office chair, firstly, adjust the armrests to be desired 90 degree so that your arms dont feel unsupported/overly bent (i adjust it at just level 3/4). Secondly, raise the seat so that the armrests are at the same level with the table. If your feet is hanging, consider buying footrest or put some books below so your feet are planted firmly on the floor. Keep adjusting the chair to get the most comfortable position.
@Nuxsiminati3 жыл бұрын
This is the type of tilting mechanism that I've been trying to find for months, thank you so much!
@hmn_cls13993 жыл бұрын
8 years? SOLD! Thank you for the review. Been eyeing this for a while. Now I'm certain what to get.
@user-qb3uy5cg1u2 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend this to people with petite heights? 5'2 specifically?
@kaijuTIVI Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this will be noticed but do you prefer this over Sihoo M57 or vice versa? The question came up because of their price now. 10.5k vs 10k respectively. Thanks for all reviews that you do.
@Joshua-ts5tb Жыл бұрын
Same question @hwsph
@raphaelreyes9635Ай бұрын
Been using it for 3 years, thanks to this review. The best chair indeed!
@meekaasaa14923 жыл бұрын
I honestly wasn’t looking to buy a computer chair coming to watch this video. Now I’m waiting for my chair to be delivered. Superb product review!
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Awww thanks Meekaa. Glad we helped you make the decision to take care of your back! :)
@HopeProphecy9 ай бұрын
I noticed that when you sit in the chair your back is not againist the back of the chair, and your head is tlited forward. Have you been able to find a chair that supports your head and back while you sit upright with good posture?
@jeddybuiigaming3 жыл бұрын
Just got this chair and major upgrade to my previous blims chair. Thanks for the recommendation couldn't be happier
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌🙌 enjoy. Let us know how you feel in half a year. :)
@njx30333 жыл бұрын
Nag creak po ba?
@jeddybuiigaming3 жыл бұрын
@@njx3033 hindi po
@njx30333 жыл бұрын
@@jeddybuiigaming okay naman po ba sya??
@jeddybuiigaming3 жыл бұрын
@@njx3033 worth every peso kunin mo agad pag naka restock. Medjo matagal na sila naka out of stock
@ignis29823 жыл бұрын
I think you should buy a hydraulic powered adjustable table. Your problems with the arm rests does not lie on the chair itself but due to your table being unadjustable.
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
True, I could get a new table but that's added cost I don't want to get into. The fact that this chair has more height than that of the Herman Miller Aeron gives it a little bit more room for those of us who use old family tables or tables which are technically not work desks. I had a less professional set up a year ago
@eeoui0334 Жыл бұрын
@@hwsphwere u only using the armrest height of this chair to reach the desk? Was the seat itself at max height in the video to reach the table, or can it still go higher? thanks
@felixschreiter30243 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy this chair in Europe?
@ApollyonMC21 күн бұрын
Can you update where to buy it in the Philippines? the link is out of stock now and I want to get 1 but I couldn't find it.
@kakomagic3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'll definitely save money for this one. im sold. thanks fam
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
😎
@xjc19546 Жыл бұрын
Where can I buy this right now?
@ahyuk443 жыл бұрын
Great vid, already subscribed! Kamusta yung lumbar pillow? Where did you get it?
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
shopee.ph/1pair-Orthopedic-Memory-Foam-Seat-Cushion-Tailbone-Lumbar-Back-i.291631207.3660630610?ads_keyword=wkdaelpmissisiht&adsid=5437170&campaignid=3050134&position=0 here yeah go!
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
And thanks for subbing! Super appreciate it Jr!
@ahyuk443 жыл бұрын
@@hwsph np and thanks as well!
@dawgz6055 Жыл бұрын
Hello what table top you have? Is that 3/4 marine plywood my friend talkin about? Thank you
@hwsph Жыл бұрын
more about the table here kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGnUiGqCbNF7f6c
@dheycatindig3 жыл бұрын
In case someone looking for different ergonomic i got mine on furnitura/furtura i forgot the exact store name but their brand Sihoo M18 same cheap price and quality chair. But this was a nice review for different brand as well. Nice!
@kimocheese84332 жыл бұрын
Your video is very detailed. Brings light to the smallest of details, which i appreciate. Good video
@hwsph2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for noticing. I really do care about the smallest things about certain things and I fear at times that people might take these things for granted before making expensive purchases. Thanks for the feedback!
@maricelcerezo32232 жыл бұрын
What is the brand of your 8yr old chair and is it still in the market today? Thanks
@mejanieboral5981 Жыл бұрын
The best review so far! I'll definetly buy this
@justinramos7402 жыл бұрын
I've been watching a few vids from your channel for a while. Your content is such a breath of fresh air as compared to the other loud and obnoxious PH youtubers. Keep it up, man 👍
@dukemomoja10903 жыл бұрын
This video convinced me, I'm ordering it now in Lazada. Thank you that you have a link here.
@luismance19583 жыл бұрын
I have the newer version of the chair with the modified arm rest. I've had it for more than 2 years now, issues that I've had so far is the gas lift which I was able to request for a new one free of charge and the arm rest which is now crumbly and really need a replacement. Problem is they don't have a replacement part for the arm rest anymore :(
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Yikes! I wonder why they changed the arm rest. The mesh was already perfect. Sorry to hear about your woes :( but thanks for sharing on the channel your experience with the new version!
@laboratory0091233 жыл бұрын
What was your problem with the gas lift? That's one of my worries with chairs. Gas lifts tend to lose strength over time. My current chair (which to be fair is priced at 2k) already doesn't support me as well as it did when i bought it-it lowers down simply by sitting on it. It's been only a few months. Also, how were you able to get it replaced free of charge? Warranty?
@luismance19583 жыл бұрын
@@laboratory009123 It just didn't work haha. It didn't lift anymore when pressed and it stayed on the lowest height/settings. I just sent an e-mail with attached product details to their CSR. It took a while but I did not pay anything, even shipping. :)
@laboratory0091233 жыл бұрын
@@luismance1958 oh... The chair was 2 years old when the gas lift stopped working?
@OmeshVaswani2 жыл бұрын
Send our csr a photo of your armrest. Ill try to get the top portion for free if not a minimal charge.
@dontheogre52302 жыл бұрын
Which is the better buy, Sihoo M57 or the 8-yr old ErgoDynamic? Planning to buy my first ergo chair and I can't decide between the two. According to Cost U Less, the EHC-420 now costs 9,999, which is almost the same as the M57. Thank you.
@ayishachua78162 жыл бұрын
Hi hardware sugar can you please help me what to choose between sihoo 57 or this chair?? Thank you so much
@cathrionajoyce3022 Жыл бұрын
The problem I have with mesh chairs is the shit that goes into the small holes and let’s be honest it collects odor because of the heat
@ching_daichi3 жыл бұрын
i've been using a mesh chair and it long last more than 7 years and it cost 2,500 before. Yes! mesh is so much better than leather even if it has a good brand..
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Mesh brothers 💪🙌
@jego207 Жыл бұрын
Just got THE chair. I tried 4 other chairs in the store but nothing reclines like this one. This is the store’s best seller thanks to your recommendation.
@jonelbondyingnuezca742 Жыл бұрын
saan nabibili yang chair?
@Viewer131282 жыл бұрын
Can we buy this from Canada?
@whatevercharlie3 жыл бұрын
Hmm thinking about getting this after that detailed video. Does it come in different colour though? 🤔
@jcmiranda6583 Жыл бұрын
Dude! Very nice review! Also your voice and your articulation sounds really good. Good job. Anyways have you tried using Sihoo M57? What are your thouhts about this chair?
@joemarieramos81832 жыл бұрын
Great review. But will this ergodynamic chair be level with my table? My table is 32.5 inches high. Thank you so much
@Ryu-qy6kd6 ай бұрын
Solid review thank you so much for your effort, their website don’t ship outside of philippines ?
@hwsph6 ай бұрын
Lazada sometimes will ship to different Asian countries but I don't think they ship outside of Asia US / Canadian / EU / Australian Viewers: You can get a similar chair here: amzn.to/3Lvolei The Staples Hyken is similarly priced and checks off most of the boxes. There are plenty of reviews online showcasing this chair. I just can't personally vouch for it. :)
@rayanthonymadrona9882 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very good review. I also would like to know where did you get your desk?
@hwsph2 жыл бұрын
all the info here kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGnUiGqCbNF7f6c
@mommyzane Жыл бұрын
Nice review po sir. Tanong ko lang po kung ano mas maganda when it comes to comfort, ito po ba o yung SIhoo 57? Btw yung gusto ko pa sa Ergodynamic is yung armrest and recline nya po.
@hwsph Жыл бұрын
Thank you for tuning in! The sihoo m57 lumbar support is better than the ergonomic. I had to buy a separate pillow cushion for my lumbar with the ergodynamic. However the ergodynamic reclined furthest and is taller. Something to keep in mind. Comfort for working while sitting up straight I give to thr sihoo m57
@mommyzane Жыл бұрын
@@hwsph Thanks po. If i buy Ergodynamic and the lumbar support, ma ererecommend nyo po ba ito? Or still the M57? Thank you po. And my link po kayo nung lumbar support na gamit nyo?
@bibhasdmusic3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Hit the bell notification.. Looking forward to more inspiration and reviews. ❤️
@rizaldybaragula37523 жыл бұрын
gaming chairs are pretty much overrated ngl. i love this kind of chairs
@tunaaa59973 жыл бұрын
well gaming chairs are pretty cheap and looks solid/sturdy(which most people like idk y)than ergo chairs
@leylinfarlier83638 ай бұрын
It costs P10,500 now. Is it still worth the price or is there a better budget ergo chair ?
@JoshuaGuevara3 жыл бұрын
how bad is the creaking? wish they had this in white though...
@Edd693 жыл бұрын
Hello , do you prefer the ergo chair or Hermann Miller ?!
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
I prefer them for different reasons. I prefer the ergo chair I reviewed here coz it highlights that every peso I spent was a good deal! The Aeron is sort of like my reward for spending on something I didn’t need to replace for 8 years. Still working on my review of the aeron if it was worth it.
@zachhudson726 Жыл бұрын
Can you order to the US?
@kimmirafuentes5274 Жыл бұрын
The link routes to a chair priced 1299. Same model. Is that correct?
@pi0l3 жыл бұрын
Sihoo m57 or ergodynamic ehc420
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Currently reviewing the m57. Be back with you :p
@wileanborja3 жыл бұрын
Hi loved the review! Would like to ask if you have tried any of the Sihoo ergo chairs? If yes, what do you think of them?
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Sihoo looks like a good chair! Looks more professional than this chair too. I can't really comment if I would like it just as well. I'll reach out to sihoo to try it out dependent on the traffic we receive from this video. More traffic means chair companies might send us more chairs. 😅 but thanks for supporting!
@joelee17262 жыл бұрын
Hi, I've been diagnosed with Scoliosis would you still recommend this or is there an upgraded version of this? I've seen reviews suffering the same condition as mine the only draw back they prefer more lumbar support for this said model.
@shankhan5473 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I love your unbiased and impartial reviews.
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shan!
@sidburn238511 ай бұрын
Can this chair be purchased anywhere in Europe?
@giomarandres56782 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, Just bought this one! Tho I'm not sure if I should remove the ring that is aroung the wheel?
@hwsph2 жыл бұрын
Hey Giomar! Do not remove the ring. Use a screw driver to pry in between the wheel and the stand. Check out our unboxing video of the sihoo m57. It has a similar wheel setup and you can see me install it from there.
@R3TR0--932 жыл бұрын
the creaking is the gas lift bearing
@eula11942 жыл бұрын
I need a wheel less version of this video. Because my sense of balance is whack due to my vertigo.i always feel on the verge of falling when I use chairs with wheels
@chrisD42253 жыл бұрын
Is this chair available in the US? I looked online and in the comments here but cannot find. You review was great and sounds like exactly what I’m looking for. The M57 sounds close but your concerns would be mine as well.
@GabrielVentures Жыл бұрын
Is this review still valid in 2023 as the best budget ergo gaming chair?
@GarlicBread-iu6zf9 ай бұрын
What store and where in manila I can buy this? Great review, sir! Planning to buy one soon :)
@hehehe96183 жыл бұрын
Akracing DF7012 or Sihoo m57?
@louiesy24273 жыл бұрын
Hello, where did you get the faceshield? The chair is too expensive for me ahahah maybe next year I will buy one, for now I just want to know where you get the faceshield.
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Type in face shield goggles in lazada or shoppee :p been with me since May last year. I feel a lot safer in it because of the seal around my eyes. But most people find it more uncomfortable.
@alexbautista30193 жыл бұрын
How is the comfort / cooling tradeoff between a padded foam (?) seat like this one vs a mesh only seat ala Aeron? Im sure it's still better than fake leather, but does the seat padding make you sweat during long sessions without the AC on?
@brapsikelph2 жыл бұрын
Still torn between this and sihoo m57. But surely any of those two will be better than my current gaming chair
@foolmoonpool3 жыл бұрын
Hiya question about the chair right, does it have a weight restriction?
@erwinmatic50622 жыл бұрын
Can't find the chair online. I plan on getting 3 and it's STILL out of stock.
@hwsph2 жыл бұрын
A shipment of 100 pieces is arriving this month I believe. :)
@HuhLaman Жыл бұрын
My armrest tore off 😢
@willplayforcash787211 ай бұрын
Meron pa ba nito sir? Link in desc is sold out/not available na. I need this 🙃
@stickynotes33392 жыл бұрын
I need this chair. I’m working 18hrs per day 5 days a week sitting on my white plastic chair used for fiesta while taking calls every night and as a virtual assistant every day light. My back and neck hurts.
@beanspistachio3 жыл бұрын
hello, the link said its out of stock, would you know another store that has this? great vid btw
@badbeowulf21073 жыл бұрын
Damn! I want an aesthetic setup bout to buy a butterfly nordic chair but this changed my mind. A very classic chair design that never gets old.
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Nordic stuff are cool! Just make sure you are comfortable. I've seen some Nordic chairs with fixed arm supports. In this day and age, arm supports which at least go up and down for an office chair are non negotiable.
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Also, cool name.👌👌👌
@angelote14652 жыл бұрын
Hello! Whats the height of your table?
@theboosster342 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, loved the review, any UK alternatives?
@jonm.26293 жыл бұрын
Damn, I wish I didn't settle for a cheaper office chair and saved up for this specific chair. My chair's creaking with the slightest movement and the wheels don't even work that well, I have to get my chair up for it to move like,,,,, what even is the point of this chair LMAO. Did not know you could change the wheels tho so I'd definitely replace mine. Nice review man!
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was scared changing my wheels at first but they come right off. If they don't you can use a screwdriver to pry it off. Lots of videos on youtube showing how. :) you may want to check out those wheels we recommended before you decide to buy a new chair. Worst case, you can recycle those wheels when you get a new chair!
@Yakovuu3 жыл бұрын
We have the same regrets. LOL. I bought mine for 3k php because I got baited on what the reviews was on it's lazada page. Now it's both a rocking and a creaking chair. Worst part for me is it doesn't feel like it has any back support at all so here I am playing with a poor posture.
@roneeh73322 жыл бұрын
As of now, Ergodynamic's Lazada Page offers this chair Ergodynamic EHC-420at 10,990 (11k) which is more expensive 8 years ago.
@iGobyy2 жыл бұрын
Is there a way for me to buy here in Malaysia?
@powercruz51183 жыл бұрын
I like your faceshield, where did you buyit? its cool
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Just type in face shield goggles on shoppee or lazada. :)
@AaronMarasigan3 жыл бұрын
mightve missed this important detail - do the armrests slide back & forth?
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
They go up and down but do not move from side to side.
@biblegaming75702 жыл бұрын
Hi Hardware Sugar. May I know your height? I just want to have an idea. Because same here, I'm a little picky, and might have the same problem with the head rest. I bought a year ago an office chair with head rest and had to throw away the head rest because I can't seem to find the right position too. I hope you reply. :)
@hwsph2 жыл бұрын
around 5'9
@yopuhcakthegreat2 жыл бұрын
I'm stuck between Sihoo M57 and this one, guess I have the answer now. Solid review! 🔥
@benjmdlc43312 жыл бұрын
The aftermarket casters look bigger than those that came stock with the chair, so using aftermarket caster wheels will increase the height by an inch or two, right?
@jinorenz072 жыл бұрын
Can you share the status and performance of this chair as of 2022? :)
@RD-gd7wc3 жыл бұрын
Great video but where can I buy this chair in the USA?
@lush_one161410 ай бұрын
hey hardware sugar, can you recommend an ergo chair brand/model for bigger people that can handle 180-200kg weight that is on 13-15k price point. I Appreciate your videos and reviews.
@monchidabonchi81493 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this over Sihoo m57/m18?
@izon94523 жыл бұрын
compare po sa Ethan Chair nyo, malayo po difference in terms of comfortability and durability?
@kurtramos593 жыл бұрын
You had me at 8 years. I bought a gaming chair last year. Kinda regret it because I sweat a lot even when AC is turned on. Plus, I like ergo chairs as that is what we have at office at work (herman miller). But still due to my "gamer" mindset, I still opted to buy the gaming chair and now I want to get this ergonomic chair. Thanks for the review. It's definitely a informative one. New sub here.
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
What herman miller chairs do you have at the office? Seyl? Just curious. 👌
@kurtramos593 жыл бұрын
@@hwsph The Aeron.
@njx30333 жыл бұрын
What kind of gaming chair??
@redice9073 жыл бұрын
This is a good find. Almost every recommendation I see is like Sihoo this and Sihoo that. I'm actually using a who-knows-how-old hand me down ergo chair and I agree that it's very sturdy. But I need a newer adjustable chair, and this one is out of stock. Probably cause of this video, lol.
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
I never even thought to think how lucky I was with this random chair I also got well before I cared about chairs to begin with. So, you and I are on the same level! I am however also reviewing the Sihho chair right now. Sihoo has more of a brand name now that people feel reassured of. Not that I have heard anything about this brand until this year. :P
@redice9073 жыл бұрын
@@hwsph Looking forward for that review. But that most people have only been using it for a year is why I haven't bitten on it yet despite the popularity.
@riegin243 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time which should i get the sihoo m57 or the ergodynamic ehc 420.. Im 5’6” tall for reference.
@benjmdlc43312 жыл бұрын
Can i ask the floor to seat height?
@jinorenz07 Жыл бұрын
This or the Sihoo M57?
@charleschristopherng12782 жыл бұрын
Do you have any idea on what the maximum weight it can support?
@wowmawc2 жыл бұрын
150 kg when I looked at its specs
@shin13003 жыл бұрын
what about the Ergodynamic EHC-165? is it the same quality?
@lot7md3 жыл бұрын
nice review, no sugar coat. can weigh on my decision with pros and cons on the table.
@rx65882 жыл бұрын
Hi 👋🏻 i am from KSA and I couldn’t find this chair any where is it only on Philippines ?
@laboratory0091233 жыл бұрын
This is such a clean review-needed this one! Love how this workspace niche is getting bigger in the Filipino audience. Subbed! 😀 Question tho, would you be able to review other popular ergo chairs in the local, say Sihoo, and compare it with this?
@mchlrvr Жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to find the best comfy chair that I could use for everyday use for work or for gaming. Years have past.. tried using gaming chairs, ergo chairs and even furniture chairs but I just can’t find the comfort I need. But for this review? I will probably make it a try, thanks for this!
@papakris3 жыл бұрын
Simple, detalyado, bawat sinabi Ng channel na Ito. Ang Ganda chair grabe 💖
@lionelsioco1233 жыл бұрын
Hope you also review the sihoo m57, new to this ergo thing and now from my monoblock to that, now i can sit comfortably, and next hopefully is the table next cause my fat legs is hitting the drawers since the table is from my lolo but its demn sturdy XD
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh I remember similar days. Hassle nga ng drawers. It took me 30 years to upgrade from my childhood desk to the new desk as seen in the video. The upgrade is more satisfying the longer you stay with an older setup.😂 also used my lolos desk. Will check out the sihoo
@lionelsioco1233 жыл бұрын
@@hwsph thanks thanks :)
@Yakovuu3 жыл бұрын
I was about to ask for this one too, so I guess thanks for doing so. I'm also planning to buy the m57 given the reviews that I've read on facebook.
@primladyy2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for this?
@moenikr3 жыл бұрын
Forget the chair. That is one bad-ass looking face shield! Seems to provide complete coverage and protection, compared to those Hengde-branded and other El Cheapo ones. Mind sharing where you got that and for how much?
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
s.lazada.com.ph/s.dzs9E Hahahaha. Yes people comment regularly about my face shield. But it has goggles so it's tight around my eyes and I can wear my glasses. I have dish washing liquid and a sponge in the shower so when I come back from the outside I disinfect it the same time as I shower and then I leave it to dry covered with soap suds for the whole day. Looks overkill but i don't mind coz I feel it adds some degree of extra protection (albeit sometimes psychological :p) going 1.3 years na tong shield.
@hwsph3 жыл бұрын
One thing to note is that it has holes near the nose area but i double mask, so I figure k na yan.
@gamesonly29033 жыл бұрын
Where to buy this kind of ergo chair or any similar brand here in the PH. In the amazon it was Currently unavailable.
@Boooz3 жыл бұрын
After doing some "consumer stuff", I found out that the seller couldn't care less if you're going to buy it or not. They weren't replying to my messages at all. I also saw a review that tackled how suspicious the packaging is. According to the buyer, "This doesn't seem brand new." There is also a review about the "2 year warranty guaranteed," and it's all bullshit. The buyer owned the chair for 2 months. Once the reclining got stuck, they couldn't contact the store. So if you're going to buy this chair, go to the damn store.
@OmeshVaswani2 жыл бұрын
We all had our fare share of issues because of manpower issues due to the pandemic, Globe, Smart, Pldt and even us considering we are smaller than these companies… hoping that clients can take care to buy only from our official stores in lazada and shopee or our website or better yet as you mentioned, best to visit our store. We do provide 1 year warranty for the Ehc-420 and Ehc-80 and we do offer better warranties for both chairs up to 5 years but with different price points. Usually the same is provided to project based corporate clients who can afford to pay a premium for the same chairs. Hope you can try it out yourself!
@tincabzhOfficialYT3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to review or use Curble/Back joy or posture correctors? If so I hope you can post them too. thank you