Best Budget Recurve Riser in the World - Probably

[@rfdsrd]

Kinetic CNC'd extruded aluminum risers (i.e. - Arios2, Novius2, etc) are $135/USD+shipping ($36/USD) as of March 2024 via AlternativeSS. Excellent risers that are more than worth of world competition for OR or BB. There are other similar good risers out there (Topoint, for example), have a look!

[@brookvalleylife724]

Yep there are so many good budget risers out on the market. Kinetic if I'm not mistaken is a Korean brand with the risers produced in China.

[@rfdsrd]

@@brookvalleylife724 Yes, most likely built in China ... and I think that Kinetic is part of WNS ... ? Dunno for sure, but literally who cares? Good IS good! Cheers!

[@brookvalleylife724]

@@rfdsrd I like that. Good is Good.

[@shredfreak83]

mybo wave x in my book. simply because there's a 27 & 23 version aswell. for younger growing archers i'd put the mk L3 up there aswell. Might end up getting a wave x so i don't have to change/re-aling my gillo all the time.

[@brookvalleylife724]

Great that it comes in different sizes. I must admit I prefer enclosed limb pockets though, but that's just me. I have a set of Mybo limbs from about 10 years ago and they are still going strong. Good quality company.

[@tonycooper2962]

Have you the address where you purchased it from.cheers

[@brookvalleylife724]

www.chnarchery.com/products/junxing-h7-25-ilf-competition-recurve-bow-riser?sku=18055447311849388810623925 Here you go Tony.

[@dannyhembree1312]

I have the H7 on order....just patiently awaiting its arrival. Have you seen the Junxing H9 riser? It appears to be an aluminum version of the Win & Win WIAWIS Radical Pro? What is your thoughts on it...thanks.

[@brookvalleylife724]

H9 and H8 you should check out. They have a formula riser and limbs for sale. They look ok, and if they are as good as the H7 them would be a good alternative for someone on a budget

[@dannyhembree1312]

@@brookvalleylife724 I have seen the H8 as well but I'm trying to stay with the ILF set up because of the limbs that I currently own. I have an old Hoyt GM but I was wanting something newer. That is why the H7 is inbound. Thanks for your reply.

[@brookvalleylife724]

@@dannyhembree1312 Must admit I love the grip on the H7

[@dannyhembree1312]

​@@brookvalleylife724I finally got my H7 in due to it being hung up in customs for two months. I love this riser and it shoots great. The quality and machine work is top notch. Take care.

[@THEFALCON58]

Is this the TBow with tiller bolts are the wrong size, the tiller bolt falls in three threads. with seven threads in the tiller bolt, its loose/side to side with no limps in. The riser it self is very light. and danerous, knock off Hoyt

[@brookvalleylife724]

Have you been watching Jake Kaminski? Yes this is the TBOW, but the H7 version. No it is not light and the tillers blots work fine (nothing dropping in, just tight bolts how they should work) I have shot this a both light weight30lbs and at 42lbs and had no issues at all. I would also say never string a bow around your leg as any bow has the possibility of injuring you if you do things incorrectly. You do get what you pay for, I also have a NIK'A ET-11 riser, again Chinese and this shows how a cheap riser can be as good as an expensive riser. Jake showed how the limb bolts wouldn't tighten from the back..... well my Hoyt nexus and matrix did the same and you had to hold the limb bolt to tighten them.

[@sjankarcher]

I dont think of selling an exact copy of exceed anything other than robbery. As far as I know Nika copies Uukha too and that is much smaller producer that might not survive this. But of course that is my point of view. Maybe big brands are neglecting your market and they deserve to lose it to other competitors. I live on the other side of the Globe so I understand that situation might be much different.

[@brookvalleylife724]

I fully understand what you say, but what about limb pockets? Who invented them? I believe Hoyt had the first ILF pockets. Should we not buy every brand that uses them??? The only way to make it better for the consumer is to have competition. However direct copying is hard to justify.

[@Australian_Made]

@@brookvalleylife724 There is NO innovation by this company when they steal an existing design and merely reproduce it. All the myriad other companies, who "borrowed" ILF comparability, use their own in-house development to innovate and improve upon what has gone before. Directly reproducing, involves no measure of research and development towards coming up with something better for the archer.

[@Australian_Made]

@@brookvalleylife724 In a nutshell, this is the sort of business practice behaviour acted out by Thomas Edison and those like him when he/they stole designs from other innovators.

[@lordcarnorjax8599]

@@brookvalleylife724 Hoyt did create the ILF / Grand Prix limb pocket design. But, from my understanding, when other riser manufacturers started to copy it in the early 90's Hoyt never defended their copyright claim on it. Since then it became the defacto standard without Hoyt having ever officially released the original design specs. Hence why some limbs & risers have some fitment issues because ILF is a bit of a loose "standard" from each manufacturer reverse engineering it.

[@renj123]

​@@brookvalleylife724 ILF pockets - it makes some sense, because it allows interoperability. Hoyt did not patent the limb pockets, and if i'm not wrong they probably encouraged or at least allowed it so that people could use their riser and other limbs, and vice versa. BTW I have no clue who actually first came up with limb pockets. But my point is there's some kind of sensible reason for it. On the other hand Tbow copied the Xceed lock stock and barrel. like there's nothing that's different. we can say what we want about the poor manufacturing, Jake Kaminski's main bone to pick is that this bow is unsafe and I agree, but I really do think we should NOT reward manufacturers who simply steal another's design lock stock and barrel. Final note, I'm ethnic chinese, I live in Singapore (so we don't live in China), and neither I nor any friend I know would stand for this sort of bullshit. It's robbery, plain and simple. Taking someone's homework and passing it off as your own is bad enough, let alone trying to earn a living off it.

[@Leon-m9x4l]

Well,I live in China and I can tell you Junxing or Taow use recycled aluminum to build this riser and it’s quality is unstable and for most new shooters,they probably need a lightweight riser,this riser is above 1300grams!

[@brookvalleylife724]

Hi Leon. Thanks for the info. I guess on the good side it is recycled ;) however I have 2 of these risers and I noticed the second one I have seems slightly different to the first one (just feel) but it still shoots fine. I agree about the weight as well. It is quite heavy but it also feels solid in your hand. I guess it would make a good barebow option. I just watched Jake Kaminski's new short about the new Win&Win ATF-DX and was very surprised to see "made in China " on it.

[@Arraia63]

@@brookvalleylife724 I´m a 3D- Archer an have 3 of the Junxing TBow "Satori" 19"- Risers. They are completely similar to the original Hoyt ones, except of the coating, which is less rough. I bought them for 100€ each instead of over 500€ for the original. I'm shooting them with up to 50lbs (on my fingers), no problem so far since 2 years. When I talk to sellers in Germany, they say the material must be worse or they even get aggressiv. One told me, he read in the internet that several risers had broken, but I could´nt find any of these notes yet (it was a pure lie!) It is a kind of religious war. I'm very satisfied, especially with my new limbs Samick Discovery R1 Carbon/Wood (110€). I paid 210€, which is 375NZ$ for the complete bow.

[@brookvalleylife724]

@@Arraia63 lots of people Diss the Chinese equipment but they are making most of it for thr big brands as well. I have 2 H7 risers, one with the hybrid system and one without. Both have been great one bow at 40lb with uukha limbs and the other at 30lbs with Nika limbs. I am waiting for a Nika riser to arrive which is supposed to be full of tech.

[@zioken81]

​@@Arraia63Do you know if they maka a Lefthanded version of the Tbow Satori Clone? I cant find it! Grüße

[@Arraia63]

@@zioken81 No. I observed the market for so long now. There is definitely no left hand model, only right hand in 19".

[@capricornmagic63]

The moment I saw the thumbnail, I thought, ' I bet he's british '

[@brookvalleylife724]

Was British, now a fully fledged Kiwi. Still talk funny for here though. 🤣

[@SCZiful]

Thank you for your videos, very helpful! Can you tell me what arrow rest are you using with this riser ? Do you think that any good arrow rest will fit with the vertatune plate ?

[@brookvalleylife724]

I use the AAE CAVALIER FREE FLYTE ELITE REST. I use wrap around rather than the stick on as they are more unlikely to come loose. I have alot of confidence with these. Yes, I do believe that any good rest should fit.

[@SCZiful]

@@brookvalleylife724 thanks again !

[@joec1212]

​@brookvalleylife724 I'm five ft eleven...and can pull quite a bit of weight....I was considering getting a 24 inch or 27 inch riser....but putting black wolf limbs on it. Was leaning towards medium, and possibly hoyt satori riser if I can get one big enough. What's your take on this hypothetical setup? Thanks in advance

[@joec1212]

​@@brookvalleylife724now I'm leaning towards your less expensive version....

[@brookvalleylife724]

@@joec1212 Hi Joe. I have been shooting both the ET-12 from Nik'a and the H7 from Tbow/Junxing. Both have been shooting great

[@anthonyhuggins6276]

Can i get the link to the websites

[@derekhunt9118]

Good review thanks and without the crazy talk that many think they have to do.Very difficult to say one riser is better than another, ratrher a pity you did not go through things such as finish and weight quality etc. I can see there is very little vibration which is a big plus.

[@brookvalleylife724]

Try to keep things simple. Thought I did talk about finish and weight. Finish is good and it's around the 1400gram mark for weight.

[@himchitchat7402]

Great video. I look at this brand and try to find out who review it. It is great to know how the bow works.

[@brookvalleylife724]

Yeah not many people reviewing it, but its a good riser.

[@rundurlukegaming7844]

Can u put the link u used for that riser?

[@brookvalleylife724]

www.chnarchery.com/products/junxing-h7-25-ilf-competition-recurve-bow-riser But also check this: www.toparchery.com/products/25-ilf-riser-right-hand-archery-recurve-bow-riser-aluminum-competition-shooting

[@_SPR1GZY]

What is the riser called on the left on the thumbnail

[@brookvalleylife724]

The riser on the left is the Topoint Unison

[@_SPR1GZY]

@@brookvalleylife724 awesome i love the colours

[@_SPR1GZY]

​@@brookvalleylife724 I got mine today as my first bow

[@adyaelrivera6803]

what website did you buy it from?

[@brookvalleylife724]

www.chnarchery.com/products/junxing-h7-25-ilf-competition-recurve-bow-riser?sku=18055447311849388810623925

[@daveeastcott9323]

My list price descending wld be: Kinetic Inviso 25" $550au. SF Evo 25" $480au. WNS Vantage AX 25" $475au. Nika Proceed ET-12 25" $300au. Topoint Slither 21" $285au. Kinetic Evolium 25" $275au. Core Arios/Arios EXT 25" $250au. Oak Ridge Shade 19" $250au. Kinetic Valenz 25" $240au. SF Axiom+ 25" $193.70-$230au. Topoint Endeavour $165au.

[@brookvalleylife724]

Check out the Nika Proceed. ET-12.

[@daveeastcott9323]

@@brookvalleylife724 Yeah I like the look of their limbs a lot 👍 I already have a few Nika accessories... Its a nice shape riser in the right price range and looks a great choice... but not mad on the colours personally...so I'd go for something else. If you're a straight red,black,blue guy this could be your riser for sure...I agree its worth the shortlist for others to consider...i will add it.

[@brookvalleylife724]

@daveeastcott9323 I have the N3, C1 and C2 limbs and can say they are great.

[@Lessonswithsenseimatt]

No Link ?

[@brookvalleylife724]

Check below.

[@mikelomas2172]

Awaiting delivery of a blue H7 currently. Ordered Nov 28th so definately not the quick shipping you received! In saying that I did only pay NZ$355! So a good deal!

[@brookvalleylife724]

I may well be getting another, with some light draw weight Nika N3 limbs very soon...

[@mikelomas2172]

@@brookvalleylife724 yes also looking at the N3's @ about 44lbs (50lbs at my draw length). How have the C1's held up? I've had the Unison riser and WNS Delta F3 limbs for 6 months since I started recurve. I've been a compound shooter for about a year and decided I wanted to challenge myself with recurve. Been an interesting journey!

[@brookvalleylife724]

@mikelomas2172 C1s are good. Still good and very quiet. Be good to see what the N3s are like.

[@fahlvfaust677]

Before I bought a fivics riser, there were two cnc risers that could be said to be affordable, namely Sebastien Flute Neo, Kinetic Sovren. Both came to my attention before. What.your opinion about Sf neo riser and kinetic sovren..?

[@brookvalleylife724]

@@fahlvfaust677 Both good but with all the fancy bits and extras the TBOW H7 has my vote now. I may get another one and sell my hoyt matrix riser.

[@zaelu]

Hoyt risers are made in Asia is not surprising... Almost everything ends up being made in Asia and then copied. Which is totally fine.

[@brookvalleylife724]

It's a good riser. Well made and shoots great.

[@carstenherbst2934]

no words about the Limbsystem ? The Original Hoyt Xceed is using the Formula System (and this is much better than ILF), if i see it right, this Riser uses still ILF....

[@brookvalleylife724]

Yes, it's ILF. Hoyt do the Xceed in ILF. It's the other system that allows for performance, smooth and hybrid settings that Junxing has changed.

[@warlock.420]

Ok obviously your budget is much larger than mine my friend. I live on $870 a month. Your idea of a budget item is my idea of insanely expensive. Maybe make a poor person's budget video please?

[@brookvalleylife724]

There are a lot cheaper bows out there, but I wanted to show what good risers you can get. I will look into cheaper but usually it's something that is poor quality and dose not last long. However your idea of making a poor persons budget is great and I will give it a go for both recurve and compound. Thanks

[@joec1212]

To be a warlock you sure sound like a Nancy. Kudos the the content creator.

[@biscottypuff]

@warlock.420 you're not the only person on the planet, most people don't live off 870 a month. And he is saying budget relative to other bow costs. You dense?

[@Glueey]

Wahhh wahhh wahhh

[@brookvalleylife724]

www.chnarchery.com/products/junxing-h7-25-ilf-competition-recurve-bow-riser?sku=18055447311849388810623925 nikabow.com/products/nika-archery-recurve-bow-limbs-progress-series-n3-carbon-fiber-limb-draw-weight-24-44-lbs Merry Christmas

[@anthonyhuggins6276]

Thanks and the dest to and your family merry Xmas 🎄

[@brendan4ever]

People should not buy those risers! Even if the quality is ok, the people in Hoyt invested a lot of time, effort and money into designing the Xceed. It is criminal that someone else should profit off someone else’s hard work. If the manufacturer of that riser had any integrity, they would design their own riser. If a beginner archery wants a quality bow at an affordable price they can buy a secondhand Hoyt or W&W or MK or Sammick or whatever.

[@BillSuxtobegaza]

Well, great crusader, I'm not being paid by Hoyt's legal team to defend their patents, so I really don't give a shit. Their issue not mine. If your going to crusade, why not volunteer with a charity instead of for a corporation your not employed at?

[@Australian_Made]

Was it really really really necessary to DIRECTLY copy the Vertatune Plate ? ? ? ? ? CLEARLY A BLATANT VIOLATION of copywrite law !!!!! OBVIOUSLY they willfully INTENDED to steer Hoyt customers towards their clone, instead of customers buying the original Hoyt Xceed Riser. Surely this is illegal ? ? ? ? ?

[@capricornmagic63]

Those saving money would strongly disagree with you. The archery injury by and large are ripping off consumers anyway. I'd have no issue buying a riser that was a copy of a so called top end bow.

[@dick-gs9tb]

@@capricornmagic63 Junxing's margins of profit are far larger than Hoyt's taking into consideration the manufacturing costs and (lack of) R&D costs, so who's actually doing the ripping off here?