Best Eurorack Tape Looper? Learning INSTRUO's LUBADH feat. 1010 music bitbox MATHs

[@CinematicLaboratory]

It's super fun to see you make a video and be blown away. Also shows a modular can be anything. It sounds really great.

[@AynenMakino]

The way you blend orchestral and modular elements is definitely closer to my approach with modular than that of most modular composers I find on KZbin. It's nice to see what someone does with the general concept that's more in the same vain as what I might do.

[@HANGINGOUTWITHAUDIOPHILES]

Great stuff. I did something with the module that I really enjoyed which was adding a keyboard to the speed cv and musically retuning looping phrases. The retuning can be arpeggiated and so forth. It’s pretty wild when you overdub on material that’s moving like that. I’d say worth a go. You need to load the right text file for it. I forget which one now

[@synthsnthings3155]

pairing with the bitbox is a game changer, great take, subbed!

[@gregvittore5004]

Interesting to show it with this type of sample material!

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

Thank you!

[@markbooth]

This a great video showing some great ideas for this module. Thanks for the demo.

[@jupiterrising5918]

Superbly done. Great sounds from one of my favorite modules.

[@7177YT]

Saw you uploaded and knew I was in for a treat. Cheers!

[@RedMeansRecording]

Great video

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

Thanks so much! Also a big fan! :)

[@theplasticlens]

Thanks for this video. Re: (@15:26) the time dial/pot being a little less sensitive - could you perhaps use the time CV input on the Lubadh expansion with a Fader (such as Instruo's 2f) through an attenuator (or even use Maths)?

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

yep! that makes sense! I'll try it for sure! Also the knob is super small so it's not the best for manual manipulation. Thanks for the feedback! :)

[@grandmasterglick5895]

Dude, that spot at 13:55 is kind of subtly amazing. As I mentioned in your other video, I'm really digging your symphonic thing, could you do a video showing how you set up your bitbox? I wasn't sure if there was anything you did in particular to set up in that pack. I'm probably going to nerd out on a bunch of your videos and watch a lot in a row, really curious how you have everything set up. I feel like we have similarish tastes, we have lots of the same modules. I would have never thought to go in this direction, but I can tell this will influence me.

[@stefanbrekke2973]

Is this v 2.0 lubadh?

[@ScottofOakland]

Great stuff! Sounds like the intro to Deep Space Nine, eh?

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

Umm haha! Anytime you do French horn 5ths, yeah! But speaking of Star Trek I think it leans more towards Voyager. :)

[@nonchalanthouse]

do you know which sound pack from spitfire audio ORCH HORN is in soooo good ... Just like your videos ... FIRE

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

The horns are from the BBC orchestra! One of the best there is! Should be easy to find on their site! :) thanks for the kind words!!!

[@faruambient]

amazing sounds! I wonder, in this setup if you would not be able to do all this right in the bitox?

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

Thanks for stopping by! Yeah the long sample “could” have been played back pitched down on the bitbox but the ludbah sample rate is much higher and has (to my ears) much smoother sound when it’s pitched down in reverse? Also working on “tapes” sound is a lot more intuitive and fun on the ludbah. But yeah I think all this can be technically done on the bitbox.

[@faruambient]

@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE thanks! I have currently the Assimilat8r, which is also great for pitching down a lot, but its not as intuitive with the tiny display, so looking for an alternative. do u mind sharing where u got the samples from?

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

@@faruambient Thanks for stopping by! :) The orchestral samples are from spitfire audio and some of the woodwinds and cellos are my own recordings! Hope this helps!

[@faruambient]

@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE thank you! spitfire is all samples right? not loops. I am trying to find some pre-made loops if I cant play well myself :)

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

@@faruambient Yeah no loops. All individual samples that needs to be "played" like an instrument. There are other libraries that are loops that are also pretty great, i.e. Native Instrument Kontakt stuff, "Session Strings" and others that have like loops based orchestral samples that has a measure of control, which is super fun to play around with.

[@blindianajones]

Hey there. When you record sound from your computer into eurorack, how are you doing it? Is there a sound quality difference between say using a headphone jack out vs an audio interface? Im about to try recording some orchestra samples from my mac and curious about your approach. Thanks

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

So right now, I don't record anything from my computer to eurorack. I just bounce out of either Pro Tools or LOGIC and chop them up as .wav files and put them on an SD card. Then I load them on the bitbox. From there, the bitbox becomes the audio distribution center for my whole eurorack, so I don't have to deal with conversions from line level to eurorack. Having said that, I've used the befaco line level to eurorack and some of the Intellijel line level to eurorack level convertor modules and they sound fantastic. But still, I think bitbox is the way to go. Let me know if this makes sense for ya.

[@blindianajones]

@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE Yeah, that all makes sense. I have some spitfire audio sounds on my computer and I am considering how I want to work with them for performance. I am not sure yet if I want to pre crate a riff or loop, or if I want to create siingle samples that are played through 1voct live. Also, I have to figure out if its better for me to have the samples reside on modular through my 4ms STS or the Octatrack. If I go 4ms, I have an audio interface I can send to the 4ms via a boredbrain ADAT module that does the conversion. If I do the octatract, thats line level into the device from audio interface.

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

@@blindianajones haha! Man those seem fun problems to have! Love it! Let me know how it progresses! And man I love my Octatrak too but it doesn’t get the use it deserves!

[@HowardPettit]

Reminding me of Star Trek the motion picture

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

haha yes! The Augmented 5th is everywhere on Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan. One of James Horner's (RIP) best works! Thanks for stopping by!

[@I.O.M.]

Does it time stretch without shift pitching?

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

That’s a great question. As far as I can tell, no! :( that’d be a very useful feature!

[@I.O.M.]

@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE That would really put it over the top. Hard to find a clean time stretcher. Thanks for the vid.

[@casicadaminuto1]

@@I.O.M. check out Nebulae v2 for great clean timestretching / granular module

[@I.O.M.]

@@casicadaminuto1 Thanks. I have been have a great time with Beads and 2HP Loop but will give the Nebulae another look.

[@walrtbstudios5430]

@@I.O.M.Thanks to the recent Cinematic Laboratory series- and an email exchange to confirm- there are just two modules that have completely independent control over pitch and speed- the QuBit Nebulae (v2 or v1!) and the ADDAC 112. That’s it.

[@mekonium7843]

"- I feel good about purchasing their products". Did you really buy this one ?

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

? Instruo? Yes! Big fan of their products! The LUDBADH and the Arbhar!

[@GeorgeLocke]

DS9 reprazent

[@hasan7786]

You ran slow sweling orchestra hits into a tape looper that created slow swelling orchestral loops. Just thought that was funny. I've been running my drums through it at 2x -3X the speed then slowing them back down in lubadh, or just recording off beat live drumming, overdubbing and creating non-musical drumloops that have rhythm. Its a great module.

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

Thanks for stopping by! Oooh! That's kinda awesome. I was thinking of maybe saying words "backwards" and then playing forward to see how it sounds it being played proper forward? Lot's of fun ways to use it!

[@mekonium7843]

Sorry for being a total bore, but this is really strange to me. You already have your classical sampleparts in the Bitbox, so why on earth would you use a Euroracksampler to try your arrangements. Put them in Your DAW and get to work, probably ten times faster that way. And, almost any drone works as good backwards as it did forwards combined with other parts. I don't see the point, unless you're looking for chance encounters and also have all time in the world (wich would be a nice luxury).

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

Thanks for the feedback and I appreciate your perspective. When I turn to eurorack, it’s not about speed or productivity, instead for me it’s really about validating certain ideas or giving ideas a fresh look. Ultimately this isn’t about actual production, but more like a playground or a chemistry lab for music. Regarding drones, I have plenty of plugins that can do tape looper type work, but manipulating loops in hardware with knobs with immediate tactile feedback is so much more fun! Maybe in the same way some people prefer hardware faders to drawing curves on a mouse. Cheers!

[@timsullivan2141]

For that price they should ship it with firmware that makes it function properly. Updating firmware is one of the most annoying things to me. Especially if it takes long time. Regardless it sounds incredible.

[@polillachina]

el manual es pésimo :(

[@dondonaudio8191]

Instruo modules are so expensive. I understand that companies building mudules have to earn money but come on. It’s far away from rocket science. It’s 689 Euros in Europe. WTF? Appreciate your Video though. Kind regards.

[@arteasoundVolterra]

Nice but very high price...

[@slowzonetocrypto6598]

i think when a module has its own linux operating software, its a step too far

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

It’s definitely and interesting discussion. The lines are super blurry now.

[@yurijogurtsov8710]

22 minutes long video where we mostly hear only how the module can slow/pitch a sample down, and the simplest of modulation, and even then the start/length are hardly noticeable with this kind of samples. funny how it's almost no different from what goes out of the 1010BB directly. same with delay - it's just not the best material to show it off. the two decks/lr are underutilised also. hence thumbs down pal

[@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE]

Appreciate the feedback. Duly noted. The new firmware should make for a new updated video. I'll only disagree with what constitutes "best material" or "simplest" of modulation since that's up to each person's taste. I've certainly done more "wilder" versions that just didn't sound good to me personally (at least at the time of the video) and was taking a lot of effort to make it musical to my ears. One person's tremor is another's earthquake.

[@yurijogurtsov8710]

@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE sure, feel free to disagree, but to make myself clearer why it's hardly taste-dependent: the material doesn't really allow to show the start/length variations as it's transient-less, orchestral, floating/droney stuff, often played by modulating the string. it sounds beautiful at times, but too fine to really hear how the machine works, to distinguish between small or large, fast or slow variations. 'simplest modulation' is not because I expect you to do mindless uncontrolled modular bedroom pseudo-avantgarde, hate that, just because with samplers/loopers start/window/end is what we all know and most devices behave similarly with it. let's say I expected more, not different - your material is closer to what I'm working with than most other vids, it's just a deeper dive in 20 mins what I was eager to hear. hope you get the cv in expander and v2 firmware and go for a journey. maybe share your work process from A to Z when doing a (small) project, or some other type of vids no amateurs usually offer. I have high hopes pal, not bashing at all ;) on a side note, how's the noise floor on your unit? lots of vids and forums speak of it.