Best HFY Reddit Stories: R-Selection, Or How Humans Are The Zerg Rushers Of The Galaxy

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[@d73w80]

Never underestimate the capacity for humans to bang and to ignore contraceptives

[@kokofan50]

If only that were true, we wouldn’t have the impending population crunch.

[@revampedharpy09]

@@kokofan50 true, but then wed have the issue scientists predicted of overpopulation instead. its a fine balancing act, too many kids you end up with not enough resources, too few and you end up with a population crunch. kind of like a lot of things in life, the middle ground works best, it just happens that in this case, there isnt that much margin for error.

[@kokofan50]

@@revampedharpy09 As Dr. Robert Zubrin, head of the Mars Society, says, “there’s no such thing as natural resources, only resourceful people.” Most resources are actually only available bringing the concentrated intellectual and economic might of millions of people together. That’s why over the last couple centuries as the population has exploded we have seen resource availability expanded with it. That doesn’t mean there won’t be improvements over time under your model but it’s going to be slow. Between the Bronze Age and the First Green Revolution the world’s population had maybe doubled or tripled, and innovation obviously did happen, but it was slow, taking thousands of years to advance in what we expect in years.

[@Thebobkiller1]

Get back to the ship. We'll bang, ok?

[@corinthiansdaniels3728]

@@kokofan50 yup you know whats uo

[@Talon1124]

When a Terran player acts like a Zerg player vs a Protoss player trying to cannon-rush.

[@AkGamerRo]

"By the numbers, boys!" - terran marine

[@danielwols]

one of the generals probably thought:oh god they're multiplying. OH GOD THEY'RE MULTIPLYING!

[@ravenouself4181]

meanwhile, the nazi generals of ww2: first time?

[@DepressedCrow]

For every soldier sent to war, 2 more are made at home

[@derrickbarney8731]

😂

[@Cruentus]

Hol' up

[@Shythalia]

Doesn't have to be from the same dad either. ehehehe

[@jayeisenhardt1337]

Jody gets around.

[@THINKMACHINE]

No one tell the aliens that we could probably use technology (not even cloning, just using the natural process in artificial wombs) to churn out bodies much, MUCH faster than that if necessary.

[@marclytle644]

Up to 8 per decade? That does not take into account for twins triplets or even higher amounts of offspring per birth.

[@halogeek6]

Its also short by 3. A human frmale can get pregnant within weeks of giving birth. And gestation only takes 10 months. So in a single decade a human female can give birth 11 times. And thats natural births. Incubators and genetic augmentation could each on there own lead to 100s of births in that same time from a single parental unit. And who knows gow many if they werw combined. We have the tech now to clone humans. We grow sheep in artificial incubation chambers. Its cloning laws that prevent us from actually using this tech. Yes there are actual laws around cloning. And they effect more then cloning.

[@dimanarinull9122]

and it doesn't account for humans going apeshit crazy on trying to reproduce with no regards to health risks. a woman can get pregnant again around 1-3 months after childbirth resulting in around 10-12 children per decade if we ignore twins and triplets. with twins and triplets you need to account for how common those are but I guess factoring those 2 facts in would still be around 14 per decade at most, that said - the health risks are absolutely ridiculous so lets just say 8.

[@alexandrub8786]

Also sets of 4,5 and 6 kind in a pregnancy which are more rare the bigger the number but i would imagine a war that takes so many lives and and generation will have evolutionary effects to make twins triplets more common.

[@alexandrub8786]

Also sets of 4,5 and 6 kind in a pregnancy which are more rare the bigger the number but i would imagine a war that takes so many lives and and generation will have evolutionary effects to make twins triplets more common.

[@alexandrub8786]

Also sets of 4,5 and 6 kind in a pregnancy which are more rare the bigger the number but i would imagine a war that takes so many lives and and generation will have evolutionary effects to make twins triplets more common.

[@noppornwongrassamee8941]

We are K reproducers, but only in comparison to other Earth species in this setting.

[@alganhar1]

r/K Theory has been pretty much subsumed as a subset of what is referred to as Life History Theory. The reality is r/K is far too simplistic a model for the variety of reproductive strategies that exist, most of which are actually neither r or K, but on a scale between the two extremes.

[@silvadelshaladin]

More like we are a hybrid. We are capable of holding a population steady over time, but we are also capable of doubling population with exponential rapidity... As needs dictate.

[@kokofan50]

@@alganhar1 having a scale doesn’t mean they’re not real. There are an infinite positive and negative numbers on a scale and no in between them, just degrees of which.

[@noppornwongrassamee8941]

@@alganhar1 Yeah, r/K is more a spectrum than a binary proposition. We're higher K than most other life on Earth, but apparently the aliens in this story are even higher K than us, what with having longer life spans, longer maturation times, and fewer children per parent than us.

[@dimanarinull9122]

​@@kokofan50 but there is no 0 point to the scale, or number markings, or even a fucking point that can be placed given a single species. all there is, is a fucking idea that basically say "you either do this or you do that" as the two extremes with no real point of reference while reality shows that no species follows that prediction at any consistent degree. in reality this idea speaks more about the environment than the species.

[@stevedixon921]

Studies indicate that in 'safe' areas (areas with low child mortality rates) humans will typically produce 2 or 3 children per pair, and sometimes less, the K-Type cycle. However, in 'unsafe' areas (areas with high child mortality rates due to violence or other factors), humans switch to the R-Type cycle, having many children hoping a few will survive to maturity. A countries birth rate can tell you a lot about how safe it is for raising children to maturity there. A surplus of food and other resources can also enable the R-type cycle. To curb global over population on the planet as a whole we would have to stop being the murder monkeys we are capable of being. Safe == population replacement, unsafe == population excess to offset premature losses This can be impacted by other factors, such that the reverse occurs. Population booms after large scale depopulation events (wars and disease for example) compared to low birth rates due to food scarcity or social factors (depression or even over-population). The 'elite' classes throughout history often had few children such that they could put all their effort into those few children. The 'masses' typically r-typed as they could reliably expect some to 'not make it'. Some exceptions being Monarchies, what with infighting and assassinations they often R-Typed. Rodents on the other hand only R-type. Give them a surplus of food and no predators and they multiply until food is scarce, then they turn on each other, then things get really, really bad. Rodents have no 'switch' to curb their populations. Pigeons are no different, they can double their population in a month, every month as long as they have food and water. Predators are necessary. As it relates to the story, humans are not really R-type, it just seems that way if the conditions are correct. Threats to the species like a war is one such condition.

[@Talon1124]

I'd like to coin S-Type, 'Switch' type. They can be a K- or an R-type depending on circumstances and necessity.

[@ezonplays2260]

Does that mean Russia is a safe place? Since it has a VERY low birth rate right now.

[@stevedixon921]

@@ezonplays2260 Not at all. As another example, China has experienced both types in the last 100 years and are currently in a K-Type cycle. I would NOT consider China a 'good' place to raise children. Consider for a moment sources of stress as a necessary requirement. If the stress conditions are BAD we go K-Type, if stress conditions are GOOD and threat levels are LOW we go R-type You could expand the 'formula' of r-type as [resources available] and [threats high] and [stress conditions low] I am certain there are other factors for this, but the point is we can switch modes and multiply quickly if we have to or slow down if needed. In this story we switched to mass production due to one of these factors changing. Enjoy 2023.

[@alexandrub8786]

@@ezonplays2260 maybe we should consider all pregnancies and not birth for humans.

[@seighartmercury]

5,000 kgs?! Just how deep underground do you have to be to survive that obliteration?!??

[@gibthegrey2214]

It's about a 1/4 million megatons, or 215000000 kiloton of tnt. That would make a crater about 7km across and with the average ratio of 1/2 depth to with of surface explosions it'd be around 4km deep assuming it wasn't built for ground penitration in which I don't know the maths for

[@korvettenkapitanmetzinger8382]

Tsar Bomba - nuke dropped 1961 look it up.

[@seighartmercury]

@@korvettenkapitanmetzinger8382 Oh, please. Tsar Bomba would look like a toy compared to 5 metric tonnes of Antimatter...

[@seighartmercury]

@@gibthegrey2214 Can't be bothered to check the math, but that sounds about right... And the thing is, that's just the crater. The shockwave that would cause would probably trigger massive groundquakes, and will definitely trigger something like a "nuclear winter".

[@seighartmercury]

@@gibthegrey2214 Wait... The fact that Tsar Bomba produced a much crater than 7km across tells me your math was off, at least for the crater size.

[@Maeshalanadae]

Yes, xenos, but two surgeons working for 100 years puts in 200 years of manpower total. One surgeon working 150 years only puts in 150 years manpower total. That’s how it really works.

[@notgremlinxprt7102]

Bro i found this channel not to long ago and i love this content

[@danielpepper1190]

really man that story i sent you is my favourite so far

[@ProjectNetoku]

and this is a big issue because given about a 1000 years we could be the only sentient race as we basically wipe out others- both existing, and colonize and wipe out future chances of evolving sentient life.

[@Alamandorious]

Happy New Year, net narrator!

[@hrushikeshsawant6193]

Well after being deeply involved in warhammer 40k the numbers mentioned here are realy rookey number

[@jamesappling1212]

Give a Man an inch, He'll want a foot, give a Man a foot, He'll want a Yard. Give a Man a Yard, He'll want a Pool in it.😏

[@victortahlor4038]

Thank you for the reading

[@babla69420]

Bruh human supremacy is good n all but sometimes it becomes bootlicking, they had to use human shields instead of unmanned remotely controlled ships?

[@alexandrub8786]

Considering that they told the enemy was more advanced i considered jammers,my problem was "the no reverse enginnering in the war" and similar things.

[@guimts8881]

The grandfather sends his regards

[@nweasels]

To be fair, they did glass a planet with no warning. They reaped what they sowed.

[@justsoicanfingcomment5814]

All hail and worship Papa Nergal!

[@nathanegnew1923]

Glad to see HFY still doesn't know how evolution works.

[@leechowning2712]

You would have to have almost obscenely peaceful planets for the other species that they used as examples here. Evolution doesn't move fast enough for a species to become k-type like this without their having been near zero competitive challenge on their planet. See the kiwi on Earth. The only reason I can think of that the significant portion of the Galaxy would be like this is if they were designed. Anything less the logic is illogical.

[@LezlyLikesYuri]

Them is some big numbers. Not unreasonable by any means given the timeframe and tenacity of humans, but the numbers themselves are just mind bogglingly BIG. Considering that about 60% of all humans that have ever existed are alive RIGHT NOW, that means that at the 2 trillion body count for humanities war is about 150 times more dead in that one conflict than have ever existed, period! For reference: 8,000,000,000 (8 B or 8×10^9, current population) 14,000,000,000 (14 B or 14×10^9, estimated total humans ever) 2,000,000,000,000 (2 T or 2×10^12, several whole orders of magnitude larger Or to put it another way: 1 million seconds ago was about 2 weeks ago. 1 billions seconds ago was the 90's 1 trillion seconds ago was the upper paleolithic age. Ya know, the stone age? Back when neanderthals and saber toothed cats where a thing. Like I said, BIG numbers....

[@revampedharpy09]

honestly thats the thing that tends to throw people (me included tbh) off. adding zeros to the end of a number causes things to get insanely big, really, really, really quickly. the more zeroes you add the more dramatic the difference, but even going from 1000 to 1,000,000, using the example you used with seconds already gets a bit nuts, given that 1000 seconds ago was roughly 17 minutes ago, vs 2 weeks ago for 1,000,000.

[@LezlyLikesYuri]

@@revampedharpy09 I don't think the human mind was ever meant to comprehend numbers that big. Sure we can understand the meaning of it and convey that, but to actually see it or imagine the shear scale of it is simply beyond us at this point.

[@ogrebattler]

@@LezlyLikesYuri sure we can it just has to be put into a perspective we can understand like with op's example here I mean you could probably do the same thing between bodies of water such as pond lake and the ocean but I'm not really much of a math guy so I don't know which ones would be best to list to give the best example

[@reecetaylor2626]

Only 7 percent of the total humans to ever exist are alive right now

[@jayeisenhardt1337]

@@reecetaylor2626 "Considering that about 60% of all humans that have ever existed are alive RIGHT NOW," Maybe. 7% hmm? With how small numbers add up fast, but we did have a big burst over a few generation and are trying to kill and cull ourselves and others these days. Hit 1billion planet wide in 1800, 1.6B died added from on 1900. You got countries with more than that now. A few decades from now ya can add 10s of billions dead on top of that. Then we will be seeing weird numbers. Hard to weigh the numbers as small ones expanding add up too fast. Looking at 1900 to 1950 with world wars. How many died seeming alot is nothing compared to how many starved on the daily. Then in the 50's China with 600 mill willing to kill half that in one of Mao's speech. Luckily we stopped in Korea. China and India might be a combined 3 billion by year 2k. So start adding all the old people that are cycling out. Then 2020 and 250 million near starving annually mighta hit 500-750 million starving when countries were hoarding food afraid to trade, afraid they might run outta food. That's so many knocking on deaths door in a single year you can't keep track. Can't believe even with 1 child policy they still kept up with India. No wonder people had the Asian exclusion act way back when. More than just Emperors, Kings and Popes they hated they knew they would breed the out. 7% is looking right with how many people die all the time adding to a big ole pile. We'd have to speed up to double and triple numbers like when 6-12 a family to say 60% even with all the young people around these days. They ain't having kids and the old die faster than they breed.

[@Lumberjack_king]

I think the biggest reason why our population grows so fast is that we don’t have a mating season and pregnancy takes only 9 months which right after you can have another child

[@singletona082]

Documented Contact.

[@spoopyd.8910]

K selections animals will cannibalize their children if they deem it weak to conserve energy.... Yeah :/

[@alexandrub8786]

Well the greeks and romans left babies on the road or woods and do abortions. From all we know those species might consider abortion as disgusting as be consider cannibalising your own child if you don't have enough food.

[@muegaltomiganson]

I hate it when people use "solar systems" when there is only one solar system. Other stars are in STAR SYSTEMS, not solar.

[@Spartacusse]

Terran Marine rush, F-Yeah! 😂

[@skepticalmagos_101]

So... no one ever heard of Drones or robotics?

[@robertbemis9800]

WARG!!!!!

[@Inquisitor-Yog-Sothoth]

Our numbers will block out the sun

[@acynder1]

They didnt die, they got to live forever

[@Arvyn992]

So compared to every other species human's breed like rabbit's

[@Bushy12]

Damn Humanity really pulled the---- hold up im feeling a bit sick....ughh- BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR SKULL THRONE! KHORNE CARE'S NOT WHERE THE BLOOD COMES FROM, YOUR'S OR THERE'S! DEATH BRINGS IMMORTALITY!

[@andmos1001]

You mean as nurgle

[@9LiveEmpire]

Well, as they say Time is relative

[@lukehenry5987]

No thanks to the Rainbow Warriors LOLOLOL

[@santi2683]

Humanity: Fuck! Yeah! 🫡

[@WallNutBreaker524]

Humanity be like: BREED!

[@alganhar1]

Bleh, r/K Theory is generally deemed too simplistic these days, has been since the nineties. Fact is a lot of organisms do not fit nice and neat into either category. As such these days we generally use something called Life History Theory. Its a far better analytical framework, and does not only take into account reproductive strategies but the entire life history strategy (hence the name). r/K Theory is little more than a subset of life History Theory these days.

[@gulogulo7636]

Rather unnecessary comment, but if it made you feel smart I guess you achieved what was needed :-)

[@alganhar1]

@@gulogulo7636 Is it? If you are going to base a story on a specific scientific principle, its probably for the best if you get it right don't you think? Otherwise why bother writing it in the first place if the first thing you do is get the application of the science you are basing your entire story on wrong? This is not a difficult thing to get your head around. As for making me feel smart, sorry, but I have seen Physicists and Chemists point out errors with other stories, so I see absolutely no issue with an actual Ecologist (myself) pointing out the issue with r/K Theory....

[@alexandrub8786]

@@alganhar1 the "bleah" at the start really sels that you learned about that about that 5 minutes ago from a friend that told you both the new and old theories about reproduction, and you take that short introduction as the whole and absolute truth and fact without looking more into it. TL;DR: don't start a text with "bleah" unless you want the reader to have pre-made opinions about you that are not good.

[@jmoneyjoshkinion4576]

Third. FTA!

[@domschra]

Yeah that is pretty fucking grimdark

[@WiredTurkey316]

For the algorithm

[@korinogaro]

Don't like the story as humans would never act like that. Like initial outburst is human-like but in face of such huge losses humanity would quickly decide to stop the fighting and focus all efforts on scheming and trying to get at least equality in technology.

[@ravenouself4181]

it wouldn't be possible as the fuckers would keep attacking us

[@dotnet97]

Or literally just using drones instead of kamikaze attacks to protect a missile, especially if the premise is that the ones that weren't shot down couldn't maneuver enough to avoid crashing into the planet afterwards.

[@creemoon9546]

this might not age well lol

[@lanceknowlton1871]

Obligatoire algorithm comment

[@notajetplane]

I do like seggs.😅

[@christophercombs7561]

Lol if we are r-selection compared to aliens the were ment to die off

[@denalozecon9074]

Today it is 2 to 5 children per couple as a wag depending on the country. Historically 8 to 12 children was not common really, but not surprising either. Always during war or after a natural disaster Humans would want to have more children than in times of peace and comfort; the Zerg part of this. However with all the best medical and nutrition knowledge available today to minimize child mortality, and a populous very motivated to have as many children as feasible grow to adulthood? 10 to 20 children per fertile woman would be possible if fertility drugs were used. Not all women would choose that many, but that would be possible with fertility drugs and today's medical care...for the women who did want this. This would be a really fast population growth increase, but still tiny compared to Goblins if Goblins existed; fertile and reproducing at 2 to 4 years old is common for Goblins. Well no evidence of Goblins, but unlimited food for Rats does have one example with the ? Bamboo forest every 20 years...so at least some mammals are comparable to Goblins in feasible population growth or "Zergyness" If Zergyness were a real math term it would include reproduction rate + adaptability rating for new ecology's + species aggression predisposition vs. other species + ?

[@JoshuaADemic]

Algorithm appeasement comment

[@PewPewCricket]

5th? Well hello NetNarrator :D

[@soulhunter6438]

Intriguing 4th

[@dkbros1592]

Oo camon why seak for peace lol distroy there home system

[@alexandrub8786]

Might we consider than not even the enemy did that and that might be considered the worst kind of war crime in that galaxy that might make the neutrals and human simpathizers join the enemy,also maybe that was the enemy command plan(+for us to fail,an attempt would have been enough).

[@ZABT1000]

First?

[@malal4751]

Second

[@Reazerable]

10th

[@kintsuki99]

You know this story is false because of how low fertility is now, imagine with a more developed society.

[@executor31]

The only reason fertility drops is cause people tend to have children later in life. If you go in a 3th world country you will see girls getting pregnant at the age of 14 and keep making children until 25

[@DeuxExNoir]

lame.