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Nik Nocturnal

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Discussing the new Make Them Suffer metalcore track "Epitaph"
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@dochd7441
@dochd7441 4 ай бұрын
Alex's screams are super underrated too. She killed it
@x_the_fucking_dead_soul_x9687
@x_the_fucking_dead_soul_x9687 4 ай бұрын
at the same time it's normal before joining Make Them Suffer Alex was formerly the singer of the band "Drown This City" it's something I discovered at the end of the year last year and I think it's really worth it worth checking out because this band is absolutely killer and Alex has an absolutely beautiful and phenomenal voice at the same time 🤘🔥
@StevelandCleamer
@StevelandCleamer 4 ай бұрын
She’s such a great addition to the band for sure
@firstdown1565
@firstdown1565 4 ай бұрын
Women shouldnt scream in music....They do it enough already in real life
@Oryyyt
@Oryyyt 4 ай бұрын
​@@firstdown1565spare us your juvenile wit, lil bro
@TFamily117
@TFamily117 4 ай бұрын
​@@firstdown1565 just because everyone CAN have an opinion, doesn't mean everyone should (you for one) Respectfully f off
@resqcreeper2
@resqcreeper2 4 ай бұрын
4:55 angry bird sound
@Sam-uu2nx
@Sam-uu2nx 4 ай бұрын
Man I was expecting part of the song 😂😂😂
@GameZedd01
@GameZedd01 3 ай бұрын
I laugh out loud lmao
@jasonpeisley6031
@jasonpeisley6031 3 ай бұрын
Sounded more like Marge Simpson 😅😂🤣
@Jens_Roadster
@Jens_Roadster 4 ай бұрын
Make Them Suffer never released a bad song imo, easily one of my favourite bands.
@oSileyCT-7212
@oSileyCT-7212 4 ай бұрын
For suuure
@PnNK
@PnNK 4 ай бұрын
Yeah i'm the kind of guy who finds his one band and plays songs forever for 2 years straight. And last years is all about make them suffer for me.
@user-wl2md5kz7k
@user-wl2md5kz7k 4 ай бұрын
@@PnNKthey really have a heavy yet emotional feel to their music, it’s amazing
@liamblack4840
@liamblack4840 4 ай бұрын
This song is sick but AVRALIZE is the best metalcore of 2024 with their songs LOTUS and CANVAS
@substitutedoll5224
@substitutedoll5224 4 ай бұрын
this one isn't super good
@jessicastoker8932
@jessicastoker8932 4 ай бұрын
Ep-ih-taf : A monument of remembrance, like a gravestone, a vigil, or a tomb.
@sakidickerson
@sakidickerson 4 ай бұрын
Now I can only laugh as I read our Epitaph we end our life as moles in the dusk of dawn patrol Sk Sk skk Sk Sk
@xjoshgriffinx
@xjoshgriffinx 4 ай бұрын
Epitaph by @ItsDrewsif is fire
@berlinetta350
@berlinetta350 4 ай бұрын
Close but no cigar. An epitaph is the collection of words what is written on your tombstone in remembrance.
@Sam-uu2nx
@Sam-uu2nx 4 ай бұрын
Epitaph is a record label. I was expecting some kind of joke there but haven't seen one 😢
@CottidaeSEA
@CottidaeSEA 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, what is that way of typing out what something is supposed to sound like? It seems really dumb, but I see people use it very often.
@xeakpress
@xeakpress 4 ай бұрын
Man somethings should never change the surprised Nik face the love of break downs and Make them suffer playing loud music with lots of lights in some random parking garage.
@samstone6620
@samstone6620 4 ай бұрын
​@@EnvisionedBlindness as the guy who designed the lights for this, I can tell you it's not. Neither is it a parking garage as much as it looks like one.
@GregPolkinghorne
@GregPolkinghorne 4 ай бұрын
Seeing them again in 1 week. With BMTH and Sleep Token What a line up.
@Vanthya
@Vanthya 4 ай бұрын
Saw them last night in Sydney and this song was amazing, You wont be disapointed.
@ave3676
@ave3676 4 ай бұрын
WHERE ARE YOU SEEING ALL OF THEM??
@buckstar3696
@buckstar3696 4 ай бұрын
@@ave3676 Australia
@Ellie_xo
@Ellie_xo 4 ай бұрын
was at the sunday Sydney show!!! What a tour 👏👏👏
@farKENoaf
@farKENoaf 4 ай бұрын
Went to Adelaide. Fucking mental show. Sick line up.
@popnoice8126
@popnoice8126 4 ай бұрын
Make Them Suffer on tour with ERRA next month is going to be such a sick show.
@alexhoyt9591
@alexhoyt9591 4 ай бұрын
i'm going and i cannot WAIT
@kenn0th3
@kenn0th3 4 ай бұрын
Aren’t Void of Vision and Novelists in the line up, too
@alexhoyt9591
@alexhoyt9591 4 ай бұрын
@@kenn0th3 yep
@ned9542
@ned9542 4 ай бұрын
And erra just dropped a new album too, I need to go
@NitroxDragon
@NitroxDragon 4 ай бұрын
100% MTS opens with this
@jamieheslop2750
@jamieheslop2750 4 ай бұрын
Saw it live in Adelaide a couple of nights ago and it was INSANE live. They supported BMTH and Sleep Token, yeh it was epic, and Oli gave MTS a huge shoutout stating "That band will be fuckin' massive". I'm so glad they are really picking up some fans after a decade of the grind!
@JitsKamps
@JitsKamps 4 ай бұрын
The chants are the most motivating thing I’ve heard in a while, gym goes crazy with that part.
@chonkbadonk
@chonkbadonk 4 ай бұрын
I like how the chorus comes out of nowhere. I dont want the exact same formula every time
@KosmicNomad
@KosmicNomad 4 ай бұрын
It comes in too soon, and is used too often
@Sam-uu2nx
@Sam-uu2nx 4 ай бұрын
​@KosmicNomad I feel like they want radio time with this one. The choruses make that a possibility on some stations I think. Just a thought
@KilljoyGatecrash
@KilljoyGatecrash 4 ай бұрын
@@KosmicNomad yea i agree its good but too often. I want more brutal before the clean
@Chazorian
@Chazorian 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, like sometimes there's short silence before the first chorus or there's short silence and breakdown!...then chorus.
@AyyFuji
@AyyFuji 4 ай бұрын
I'm seriously so happy to be an Aussie when Polaris, Alpha Wolf, Northlane, Make Them Suffer, all of our bands are popping off and making some of the best stuff. Alex's chorus sent me, I was hooked with the heavy, and the chorus blew me away. LET'S F'ING GO!!!
@nu_metal_rules6969
@nu_metal_rules6969 4 ай бұрын
The Make Them Suffer singles have been straight bangers, ima be waiting for new album from them
@patrickstar6247
@patrickstar6247 4 ай бұрын
Chorus is super earwormy. Love it.
@monkeymita
@monkeymita 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely love learning about bands through your channel. Being able to get more n more into metal and learn of these bands that have been making music for ages is like opening a treasure chest of new music to absorb. Thank you Nik!!
@themighty4587
@themighty4587 4 ай бұрын
Make Them Suffer are well on their way to taking over from Parkway Drive as the number one Australian metal band
@KR7PT
@KR7PT 2 ай бұрын
Long done Parkeay have ascended to a classic Aussie metal band but MTS and Polaris are both so so fucking good, different kind of music being Metalcore vs more like Rock Metal (even pirate metal kinda)
@rosshonicke3318
@rosshonicke3318 2 ай бұрын
Polaris is definitely up there as well
@CasualChaoz
@CasualChaoz 4 ай бұрын
Nik you got me on Make Them Suffer with one of your try not to headbang video's ane since then I went through their whole discography and just fell in love. From Neverbloom to How To Survive a Funeral and all the singles they quickly become one of my favorite bands. I can't help but love everything they releas, but nothing hits like Old Souls or Worlds Apart for me. Those 2 albums will always be my go to, so it was nice to hear elements of those albums in this new single. Really excited to see what else they have in store this year!
@webster439
@webster439 4 ай бұрын
This slapped live last night. They were supporting sleep token and BMTH
@webster439
@webster439 4 ай бұрын
Will admit, sleep token musically were great but the complete lack of any interaction with the crowd sort of muted the experience. They need to lean into the mythology of the band or something to make it more engaging. Then you get a masterclass of lead singer, interaction with oli sykes
@ziggybadans
@ziggybadans 4 ай бұрын
So excited to see them tomorrow, gonna go so hard
@fav0ur1te_r3gret
@fav0ur1te_r3gret 4 ай бұрын
@@webster439thought the same thing!
@AgentLayla526
@AgentLayla526 4 ай бұрын
was at the same concert! so sad that there weren’t more people in the crowd for them
@manonmaugeais5305
@manonmaugeais5305 4 ай бұрын
@@webster439 I saw them on Sunday and I agree, although they are musically impeccable on stage they just lack this interaction with the public. If I am being completely honest, I zoned out during one of the song at the end. They are still amazing though, but they just need that little something to keep you a bit more captivated. But yeah, Oli's stage presence is just second to none!
@GameZedd01
@GameZedd01 3 ай бұрын
The female vocalist coming in like that reminds me of Skillet. I really wish Skillet let Jen Ledger sing more like they do here. She's one of my favourite female vocalist and I loved her solo album
@DarkMustard1337
@DarkMustard1337 4 ай бұрын
Alex coming in as a top notch 2nd vocalist, like an unwanted pregnancy she killed it.
@lukelegg9915
@lukelegg9915 4 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MrSir2552
@MrSir2552 4 ай бұрын
As a 26 year old, I can’t wait for this album to drop on my 38th birthday
@forgotmyaccount
@forgotmyaccount 4 ай бұрын
I like your optimism
@rysirion_9102
@rysirion_9102 4 ай бұрын
Actually same, been a fan of them since randomly seeing them live in like 2014 or something opening with Neverbloom, my mind was blown. And this definitely pays homage to the older vibes I think
@andrewwestfall66
@andrewwestfall66 4 ай бұрын
I was bobbing my head to this on my lunch break and food just fell out of my mouth when the breakdown hit I gotta stop eating when I watch these videos
@manonmaugeais5305
@manonmaugeais5305 4 ай бұрын
I just saw them on Sunday with BMTH and this song is an absolute banger live!! And agree with all the comments saying Alex is killing it, she is an absolute beast and her presence on stage is incredible.
@theunexpectedua
@theunexpectedua 4 ай бұрын
Short but sweet, yet this is one of the best songs I've heard in a while. I love MTS, they're up there with Northlane when it comes to making some cool metalcore music. This band never released a bad song ever since Worlds Apart (2017). And yes, they are bringing that trance-core back! And I'm here for it. Giving me the Stand Up And Scream Vibes all over again. Alerion
@lunethias
@lunethias 4 ай бұрын
I love how purely FERAL, PISSED, SNARLING, Alex's screams are.
@ItsGothamsJoker
@ItsGothamsJoker 4 ай бұрын
Damn. I need to start listening to this band now. This slapped so hard
@LeMichaelJordansPoleRiders
@LeMichaelJordansPoleRiders 4 ай бұрын
killer track. next pls. check out The Oklahoma Kid - Overpowered
@nihilmusic1536
@nihilmusic1536 4 ай бұрын
Boundaries got Metalcore on lock in 2024
@ThatShitGood
@ThatShitGood 4 ай бұрын
Mouth for War and Thrown
@Rowanexen
@Rowanexen 4 ай бұрын
Why have I never listened to this band before??? I'm already a fan!
@PnNK
@PnNK 4 ай бұрын
Oh oh oh, a journey is starting now for you my friend.
@lout9231
@lout9231 4 ай бұрын
saw them before Stray from the path last year first time hearing them and they were tight af
@kenn0th3
@kenn0th3 4 ай бұрын
That Line Up was hot af
@artolan_illusive
@artolan_illusive 4 ай бұрын
Dude, every second reaction video of yours makes me discover a new gem in metal.
@dylancollins4902
@dylancollins4902 4 ай бұрын
I get to see them this Saturday with bring me and sleep token and fuck im so keen man
@Frederick0220
@Frederick0220 3 ай бұрын
Make Them Suffer has been RIPPING ASS the last year or two and I'm here for it!
@StreakzIV
@StreakzIV 4 ай бұрын
Saw this live on Wednesday, was absolutely phenomenal! Seen make them suffer 12 times now over the years, going to a gig feels like going home at this point!
@Werewolf914
@Werewolf914 4 ай бұрын
They've been on my list but I've never listened to them before, but I loved this maybe it's about time I listen to more of them, Symphonic Metal is my favorite Subgenre so you put strings in and I'll probably love it 😆
@parkourandfreerunning4214
@parkourandfreerunning4214 3 ай бұрын
Listen to the Neverbloom album. It's has more symphonies. They were Blackened Symphonic Metalcore back then
@thyweebhub
@thyweebhub 4 ай бұрын
One personal criticism of mine about this song I will say was the initial chorus drop in your face and then it repeating itself to the point it was a little repetitive (like Nik said they could have maybe added something in between those spaces and do some a little different or unique). Other than that it’s a solid banger to me👍🏾
@frogzx
@frogzx 4 ай бұрын
Neverbloom has some issues for sure but MAN do I still love that album.
@Elegies22
@Elegies22 4 ай бұрын
Not hating but what issues?
@zerozeeros
@zerozeeros 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely zero issues. Fck you on about
@mathewkristensen3589
@mathewkristensen3589 4 ай бұрын
The three singles they’ve released are some of the best modern metalcore tracks out there
@alecmiller5296
@alecmiller5296 4 ай бұрын
Metalcore is best core
@ryanbollinger1759
@ryanbollinger1759 4 ай бұрын
But Hardcore exists
@JSauer21
@JSauer21 4 ай бұрын
The Acacia Strain is the best core. Deathcore + Doom
@AvarTyrog
@AvarTyrog 4 ай бұрын
Symphonic Deathcore is the best core. All the other stuff are not my thing.
@Frederick0220
@Frederick0220 3 ай бұрын
No doubt. Greatest genre of all-time
@maurobrandolt2166
@maurobrandolt2166 3 ай бұрын
@@ryanbollinger1759 every core is awwsomee
@divinemental
@divinemental 4 ай бұрын
“Pluck violin Picass-“ Brilliant 😂👊
@vincentstrange8632
@vincentstrange8632 4 ай бұрын
Clearly I've had my head in the sand for a long time because I've never heard this band before. Excuse me while I go listen to all their music now. God damn.
@jonatanmarklund7473
@jonatanmarklund7473 4 ай бұрын
The chorus is actually what hypes me up the most about this song, makes me want to sing, cry, mosh and throw down all in the same time. It builds it more then the shuggs and circus riff in this one imo
@LoopyLoopyKat
@LoopyLoopyKat 4 ай бұрын
It was fun watching you make this video as I’d seen them the night before play the song live and was still awake from adrenaline!! They were fucking awesome!!
@robjones2346
@robjones2346 4 ай бұрын
Seeing MTS tonight at BMTH Sydney and I can’t wait !!!
@josemariedeguzman4952
@josemariedeguzman4952 4 ай бұрын
I saw them live at BMTH Sydney April 14. I only came for BMTH and SleepToken. But man! The moment they came out the stage, it's all chaos! What an energy at live! Now it's all Make Them Suffer spamming everyday.
@kieranrealph1821
@kieranrealph1821 4 ай бұрын
Saw these guys last night in Sydney as one of bmth's back up bands and holy moly they killed it. Up the Aussies 💪
@utd1978
@utd1978 4 ай бұрын
Make them suffer should be massive by now, everyone I no ain't ever heard of them which in a way I'm glad.they awesome
@resqcreeper2
@resqcreeper2 4 ай бұрын
i cant wait to see them next month
@hohenheim7894
@hohenheim7894 3 ай бұрын
Oh man I saw this live when they preformed with sleep token and BMTH in Melbourne. Was fucking epic
@CPTFiXtion
@CPTFiXtion 4 ай бұрын
If Brand of Sacrifice and Evanescence had a baby ....
@MetalMoshin
@MetalMoshin 4 ай бұрын
Dude not even close. She sounds nothing like Amy Lee. Not even an ounce of evanescence vibes here.
@CPTFiXtion
@CPTFiXtion 4 ай бұрын
@@MetalMoshin I didn't say she did. She doesn't have to.
@GrahamRay2040
@GrahamRay2040 4 ай бұрын
Because they have a female vocalist they sound like Evanescence? Nothing sounds like Evanescence here 😅
@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191
@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191 4 ай бұрын
I mean early Make Them Suffer were Evanescencecore before Evanescencecore happened
@ab-gomes
@ab-gomes 4 ай бұрын
This is marching straight foward to become my favorite album of them
@x_the_fucking_dead_soul_x9687
@x_the_fucking_dead_soul_x9687 4 ай бұрын
for people who don't know yet Alex was once a singer in a group called "Drown This City" before joining Make Them Suffer and honestly I advise you to go and see because it's really worth it I recommend you songs like New Burn Order, Gemini, Borderline Existence, Carbon 14, Stay Broken, In Your Image, Void, We Are Not Dead and more if you need but their whole album is fantastic 👍🤘
@oyevintj
@oyevintj 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the full album
@jhamilton1007
@jhamilton1007 4 ай бұрын
MTS just keeps bringing the bangers. 🔥 🔥
@ronriffs
@ronriffs 4 ай бұрын
I’m here to say the clowny circus riff is even more fun to play 😏🤡🎸
@baileyfreeman4123
@baileyfreeman4123 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see this live tonight in Sydney
@waltermatthewberg
@waltermatthewberg 4 ай бұрын
I was so stoked to see MTS at Blue Ridge before it imploded like building 7
@dclxvi6521
@dclxvi6521 4 ай бұрын
I had to check the date after seeing this video. Thought I took a nap and woke up to December.
@glen3133
@glen3133 4 ай бұрын
these guys took top spot in my last wrapped for a reason. old records bang hard, new stuff, too
@Deletirium
@Deletirium 4 ай бұрын
Most of my commute playlist has gotten added downstream of something I saw on this channel. I can't believe I'm only discovering metalcore exists at 40.
@idarkboost
@idarkboost 4 ай бұрын
That is crazy bro where you been. Early crown the empire is good
@SEVEN_DUCK
@SEVEN_DUCK 4 ай бұрын
Simply the best modern metalcore band right now.
@substitutedoll5224
@substitutedoll5224 4 ай бұрын
imminence
@bradyung798
@bradyung798 4 ай бұрын
Architects
@n00b22
@n00b22 4 ай бұрын
​@@bradyung798uhm, no. Those times are over. Sadly.
@ShadowMorph608
@ShadowMorph608 4 ай бұрын
@@n00b22they are still good but yeah def not the best
@dankewurst
@dankewurst 4 ай бұрын
Invent Animate
@Flupperz
@Flupperz 4 ай бұрын
I kinda like the way the first chorus plays out, gave me goosebumps the first time it came on
@juttaman25
@juttaman25 4 ай бұрын
They played this opening for Sleep Token and BMTH last week in Australia. I liked it much better live too.
@iamthekinglet
@iamthekinglet 3 ай бұрын
Aussie man, seeing an Aussie band live. They are KILLER. Deff a great performing act too.
@fDiango
@fDiango 4 ай бұрын
Not sure uf you know them already, as they have been around quite a while, but i think Cypecore would be worth a listen. They have some new stuff which is is imho a bit softer but still dope! Love your videos!
@Weallblamejordan
@Weallblamejordan 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@benpowell5348
@benpowell5348 3 ай бұрын
i bet this isnt even along your typical vein, but I heard you mention admiring the synthy/symphonic sound followed by low screams and typical metalcore, and I immediately thought of the newest Starset song that just released. Usually I wouldnt mention Starset here as they've usually only got half a foot in the door of metal genres but their newest song went all in.
@sristirajgupta2205
@sristirajgupta2205 4 ай бұрын
I rolled my eyes back
@sethjenkins9263
@sethjenkins9263 4 ай бұрын
The whole creepy attic thing reminds me of Chelsea Grin a little bit with songs like Across the Earth and Lilith
@rahminbuckman6090
@rahminbuckman6090 2 ай бұрын
Make them suffer is highly underrated! Alex is a great addition to the band!
@levychevy6472
@levychevy6472 4 ай бұрын
Love the make them suffer reaction. Eidola's new album "Eviscerate " is my favorite metalcore/post-hardcore release of the year. Would live to see a reaction to that as well.
@thinkskater007
@thinkskater007 4 ай бұрын
You nailed on previous reactions to this song, MTS has them Jagged hooks into the chorus. This one for sure is no change in that either.
@str11pes
@str11pes 4 ай бұрын
F# is my favorite note
@ihaverng
@ihaverng 4 ай бұрын
You need to check out “the wise man’s fear” they have been releasing amazing songs lately
@rw5170
@rw5170 4 ай бұрын
The new August burns red with will Ramos is amazing
@jeffreyallen6545
@jeffreyallen6545 4 ай бұрын
"Speech increased to 21" LMAO
@mrr5835
@mrr5835 4 ай бұрын
Man there's some heavy riffs in there. Could win heavy riff awards for 2024.
@Hangry_Hungarian
@Hangry_Hungarian 4 ай бұрын
Make them suffer is just so awesome, you should check out a band called "If I were you"
@vipa8086
@vipa8086 4 ай бұрын
don't remember where you recommended Sleep Theory, but it is totally sick!
@brogren802
@brogren802 14 сағат бұрын
The old make them suffer is the shit I would love to see them play neverbloom live or weeping wasteland
@cime62
@cime62 4 ай бұрын
1:10 BRO I was playing SKYRIM at this moment YOU SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF ME
@jdl7271
@jdl7271 4 ай бұрын
Make them suffer are always killing it! Also when you reacting to Qwerty by LP, Nik???? 👀👀
@FSSjavi
@FSSjavi 4 ай бұрын
I’m so excited to see them for the first time next month
@dekadenser
@dekadenser 3 ай бұрын
What happened to your ERRA coverage on here? I feel like we haven't gotten any ERRA reaction since last album(?). Would love to hear your thoughts on CURE!
@lodraphael
@lodraphael 4 ай бұрын
Nick basicamente virou o cara que me recomenda músicas para escutar na academia. Valeu, Nick
@eryan1419
@eryan1419 4 ай бұрын
Can confirm it went absolutely nuts the other night before BMTH 🫡
@carlthegamer9215
@carlthegamer9215 9 күн бұрын
Bro 48% sub rate is insanely high.
@10onpump5
@10onpump5 4 ай бұрын
I’m seeing them in St Pete with Erra and I cannot fkn WAITTTT
@nayna8036
@nayna8036 4 ай бұрын
sooo excited to see this live on their tour with erra
@Thanoswasright11
@Thanoswasright11 4 ай бұрын
Could Best album of 2024 be make them suffers whenever it comes out?
@primghost
@primghost 4 ай бұрын
YES! I am really love a vocal chorus. And I am really tired for extreme vocal chorus.
@heavymetalmak
@heavymetalmak 4 ай бұрын
so what i'm hearing is...there's gonna be a Nocturnal remix with a crazy damn breakdown maybe tripped out to the chorus after
@mattewing1
@mattewing1 4 ай бұрын
Intro has a little of The Browning to it
@LordDoomLVR
@LordDoomLVR 4 ай бұрын
Neverbloom vibes indeedly.
@Atia_Hawke
@Atia_Hawke 4 ай бұрын
So fucking keen to see them on Saturday in Brissy
@999erh
@999erh 4 ай бұрын
Sorry... having flashbacks of Evanescence playing that the dentist, grocery store, and walmart. And no, I didn't have a particularly cool dentist, grocery store, or walmart. It was just literally everywhere. Wonder if they ever did a second song...
@pauljarrell8162
@pauljarrell8162 4 ай бұрын
Anyone else fucking love fun Metal things?
@vmate809
@vmate809 4 ай бұрын
yesterday I was in the local music store, and they played this song I was screaming :D
@AlexandraAbrams-hk6ku
@AlexandraAbrams-hk6ku 4 ай бұрын
Only complaint is I want more Alex screams… Drown This City was one of my favorite bands before they disbanded, so I’m a big fan of Alex and just want more from her haha. But that being said, the song is still awesome
@ShellShock794
@ShellShock794 3 ай бұрын
I was the tiniest bit let down with the fact that this song doesn't have a crazy breakdown or something in the middle (like you mentioned) but honestly, we all know that MTS can absolutely BRING IT when they want to and I don't actually think every single one of their songs needs that. It would end up being way too formulaic. Songs like this still go HARD and it's good that they have some variety
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