Best Mini Bike upgrade Gambler Mini Bike Build adding a Torque Converter or CVT

[@motomule]

Don't miss the 1st mini bike video!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYvLZZZ7dpymqZI

[@seedlessgrapes2605]

Where is The Gambler 100?

[@motomule]

@@seedlessgrapes2605 eastern Oregon

[@RichieCat4223]

@@motomule Is there an address /location ? Thanks

[@motomule]

@@RichieCat4223 Oregon Dirt Park in Prinville.

[@RichieCat4223]

@@motomule Thank you.

[@kartnerds]

That's the absolute nicest mounting plate I've seen on a CVT

[@motomule]

Right!!! I was shocked.

[@bq1000bq]

2:28 "... hope this will turn this little mini bike into something to hold all these groceries..!" CLASSIC! I will use this line the next time my wife grumbles about my mechanical adventures in the garage. Great project, good vid. Love from Indonesia

[@GoKartsUSAOfficialChannel]

Hey Mike, I know you worked with the guys on this project. I didn't have a chance to tell you you did a great job! especially your crew, Thanks alot

[@bbaaspencer1]

I had my 2 mini bike powdercoated, one red with Metalflake and other one, Metalflake blue!

[@TrojanHorse1959]

Great video and mini bike improvement!

[@motomule]

Thanks, I'm having fun with this project!!

[@scssarge4409]

In Australia we call it a centrifugal belt drive.

[@seedlessgrapes2605]

Yes, I like Australia. They just say what it is and then it's clear.

[@RichieCat4223]

This is a VGT, Variable Gear Transmission or CVT, Continuous Variable Transmission. Toyota is one manufacturer that uses it. First place I saw it was used was snowmobiles.

[@dogsandwich-b2r]

I mean thats another way to call it 👍

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

Those are some cool pillers! I'm going to cut mine like them now! :)

[@azertyytreza8947]

You're absolutely right! A CVT, or as we call the smaller versions: a variator drive

[@waynebrown5428]

Big difference

[@N1RKW]

That looks like it's a lot more fun now!

[@motomule]

Boy howdy!! It is!!

[@tazyt3388]

Classic intro mate good little unit that CVT hehe looks sturdy great vid Mike stay safe on that beast cheers

[@corysnladventures2758]

Wow night and day is an understatement 4 difference 😳😮😱👍👍👈

[@duanewhite3184]

I can see the grave digger looking good I like the mini bike

[@motomule]

Yup, it's getting close. Runs again, just little stuff to finish now... Thanks!!

[@TripleXclown]

That's very impressive!!

[@milifeyt2063]

Fun little build I'm waiting to see the suspension. Seems like it would be easier to build a frame from scratch or start with frame with suspension. Nice work

[@motomule]

Thanks!! I can't wait to get suspenders on this thing!!!

[@Tampaboys]

Very cool great Content I've been thinking about going to torque converter myself on a couple builds so thanks for sharing this ill be getting one soon.

[@motomule]

Totally worth it!!

[@homie33993]

What was your top speed?? Thanku

[@gafrers]

Another lovely video. I too call that a CVT. Based on your own comment, in last video, i'd say the "Bear" has learnt to wheelie

[@motomule]

Yup, this bear is learning new things!!! 😆

[@heathfiedler]

thinking of trying this with a 10 hp flat head and putting it on a dirt bike frame to see how well it works.

[@motomule]

Sounds fun!

[@daviddewilde8041]

Hello, Nice video. And indeed, the more professional public will call it a CVT.👍 Cheers from Belgium.

[@Mikefestiva]

Thanks for posting Mike 👍 that’s a nice looking backing plate there! Torque converter CVT 🤷🏻‍♂️ I think both names work, I too prefer CVT. It’s funny even though I called them CV Transmissions in one of my mini bike videos I had many people correct me that they are called CVT or torque converters 😂 It makes me laugh sometimes when you get people correcting you on things like that when you know more about that subject then the people correcting you! Haha Arm chair professionals 😂

[@motomule]

It's funny how different groups refer to things with different names.. The pulleys change diameter and create a Continuously Variable Transmission of power from the engine to the wheel... C.V.T..... 😆

[@RyanGribble]

Traditionally a torque converter is a fluid coupler. Consistently variable transmission is the correct nomenclature.

[@jasonbirch1182]

@@motomule different groups with different amounts of experience and knowledge. Kids watching cars and cameras call it a torque converter. Don't be dumb for dumbs sake.

[@motomule]

@@jasonbirch1182 hopefully I made it clear what I think it should be called.

[@Chong1975]

Wow. As you said: Night and day difference.

[@motomule]

Right!! Unbelievable... Thanks for watching!!

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

mule your right it is C.V.T. transmission cvt is an acronym that means continously variable transmission not really sure how these things got to be called torque convertors

[@Fantaman900]

It's probably the chinese who translated it wrong and the us people who deal into this go kart stuff that don't know what an actual torque converter or cvt is. But nowadays dual wet clutch is more popular for automatics than that liquid filled bowl and spin a fan inside torque converter system.

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

@@Fantaman900 hmm never thought of that ..and wasnt aware that automotive manufacturers were getting away from torque converters

[@chrisgriffin3860]

That is super impressive with what I also call a CVT trans adapter! Also those pliers are awesome! I'm gonna order a pair! It was great to meet you and the family at the monster truck show! Excited to see the next modifications!

[@motomule]

Hi Chris!! It was great to meet you as well! Thanks for watching!!

[@davidskowronski6618]

👍Great video, and love those pliers. I'm going to have some soon but not pay any money for em, cuz I'm a tight ass. I have a pair of similar pliers and will stick em against the grinder, wish me luck

[@motomule]

😆 too funny.. I hear ya tho.

[@BigAdam2050]

How does the torque converter stack up Vs a honda wet clutch? Or it more than just a clutch?

[@motomule]

It's more than a clutch. The pulleys change diameter thus changing the gear ratio. So it's a clutch and a transmission.

[@BigAdam2050]

@@motomule Oh that makes more sense now. Always wondered why people raved about them when they cost a couple times more than the honda clutch setup.

[@RyanGribble]

Man, that puts my 30 series backing plate to shame. Looks great. Got a good chuckle at the hauling groceries comment too. So you up for drag racing at the gambler?

[@motomule]

Sure Ryan!! 😆

[@stangdad7848]

Does the torque converter affect top end speed?

[@motomule]

It depends on how you have your gearing set up. If you compared two bikes with the same sprocket setups, then yes, the bike with the torque converter would both take off faster and have a higher top speed.

[@stangdad7848]

@@motomule okay just to be clear a torque converter both increases torque and top-end with identical gearing?

[@motomule]

@@stangdad7848 yes, it's a CVT, a transmission that "shifts" down to take off, and "shifts" up at higher speeds.

[@stangdad7848]

@@motomule it would be worth going up 1 gear for super top end and you would still have good take off because of the torque converter right?

[@HelloHello-hd3ds]

How big was your motor shaft

[@michaelwarner2938]

Would it be possible to extend the rest wheel it a little and if so how

[@motomule]

I'm going to add suspension, that will move the rear wheel back a bit.

[@BradlyKamau-z6x]

How much is that torque converter

[@Blake_Guajardo]

Will this work on an syx moto 50cc

[@seedlessgrapes2605]

Hell yeah was that you at the beginning doing the wheelie?

[@motomule]

Yes, the cvt turned the little mini into a wheelie machine!!!

[@seedlessgrapes2605]

@@motomule Dude, that's a great little invention and pretty much solves everything. Especially for heavier bigger people

[@davidemming8444]

.hi. I've have used the some clutch on a small 4 wheeler. I broke it in half two time. Then my uncle made plate out steel. No more braking now. Even with 200 pounds on the seat. So if u brake our plate let me know. He can make one for u. So hows the boys doing with the monster truck

[@motomule]

Thanks for the heads up!! I'm still putting the finishing touches on the mini monster truck. Lights, etc.. We'll take it to an OHV park and get some good footage to share.

[@daddydave9069]

Upside is way better take off but down fall is less top speed unless u put acouple hundred into the motor

[@slimyelbow]

Didn't comet call the torque-a-verters?

[@doniwicaksono4742]

Buy it where

[@motomule]

Go karts USA

[@jefferyanderson3524]

Sweet!

[@marjuspjeci4097]

hi, I also fitted the same kit, when I walk 2 km I touch the belt and it overheats why?? yours is the same i.e. does it overheat??? or is it normal??

[@jashton8710]

Did it increase your top speed?

[@motomule]

If it did, only a small amount. The best thing about it is the added gearing for climbing hills.

[@raufsahin334]

Nice

[@GoKartsUSAOfficialChannel]

and as far as calling it a Torque Converter, that's old school. Nowadays, we tend to associate 'CVT' with the Chinese GY6 engine.

[@ChristopherHayniedd980]

What happen to gopowersports as your sponsor? I thought you all were on their team for the gambler.

[@motomule]

I was never sponsored by them, hopefully soon!! 😁

[@wtla]

I was confused when I saw a mini bike advertised with a "torque converter" because the picture looked suspiciously like a CVT 🤔

[@Deucealive75]

The product isn't anything new and has been called a torque converter for decades. The company who designed it calls it a torque converter.

[@christophermorin9036]

Enjoy your new motorized Unicycle. lol

[@motomule]

😆

[@MOAONAABE]

i want to put a CVT on my mb200. i see people cuttin the bottom off the backing plate and how then do i mount the cover? id like to have a cover. they all come with a cover, maybe a retrofit bracket to hold the bottom of the cover, and the chain guard bracket has to go? i need the CVT, and the canolies.

[@motomule]

I'm not familiar with how it would fit on that bike, but do it, it's an excellent upgrade!

[@stanlucas665]

If you’re gonna do any motor upgrades the front drive on your CVT won’t handle it to well. When you can, upgrade to the juggernaut from Go Power Sports. It’s rated for more horsepower.

[@RyanGribble]

It'll hold a stage 1 just fine. Anything more than that should upgrade the driver.

[@Deucealive75]

Since when? Guys have drag raced with the stock driver and they were using much more than the rated HP.

[@louisianaredneck3755]

How are you doing this morning mr mike

[@motomule]

As Tony the Tiger says.... I'm GREAT!! 😆 Hope you are too!!!

[@louisianaredneck3755]

Moto Mule yes sir

[@kendesign3622]

Hey Mike, I feel you on the don't say torque converter unless you're working between a small block Chevy and a TH350. I think the Comet TAV "torque-a-verter" trade marked name was somehow Interpreted as torque converter. And you know how it is people see things on the Internet And follow right along. Thank you for making this point of What CVT is!

[@motomule]

Please hand me the Kleenex, I mean facial tissue... 😆 Thanks for watching!!!

[@kendesign3622]

@@motomule perfect pun on the brand name 👍

[@1one3_Racing]

That would really suck if you had done the suspension already. You'd have to c change the swingarm pivot point.

[@motomule]

Right!! Luckily I didn't do that... Thanks for watching.

[@unclemuir]

So you fell to peer pressure calling it a torque converter.

[@jasonbirch1182]

Yeah don't do it please.

[@louisianaredneck3755]

Morning hoss

[@carlwolf2]

Be careful using gokarts usa I bought a gokart from them and it was advertised as having a torque converter and I even paid extra for it then come to find out all it was is a standard centrifugal clutch that went to a Jack shaft then to the axle they wouldn't even give me a credit for the extra I paid for the torque converter. But on another not keep up the amazing vids man I love them

[@motomule]

That sucks about the dealing you had. They've been good to me, so I'm happy with them. Thank you for watching!!!

[@neonone9164]

So what did it do to ur bike increase ur low end power thats all u showed u just did like 4 takes of u going uphill.. Lol u could of traded one of those for a flat level ground pull. Be nice to see what changes it does to top end.

[@motomule]

It didn't change top speed. It just made it easier to take off and climb hills.

[@brutallyhonestmf5578]

You should get suspension, those trails will be hard for your back without it.

[@merlepatterson]

People mistakenly call CVT's "Torque Converters", when they really have little to do with one another. A torque converter is a dampening link between two mechanically linked rotating shafts, which turns at the rate the input shaft turns at all times away from idle input (1: 0-1 ratio other than momentary dampening and idle). A CVT is what it does. It varies the input to output rotating ratios (1:V? ratio). A torque converter doesn't. A CVT might have a torque converter as an integral component, but a torque converter doesn't necessarily have a CVT connected to it.

[@bajasoobnut]

Moto mule, with the CNC mill if you want to learn some stuff I can give you my email and can come down from Salem during a weekend and help out if you want.

[@motomule]

I may take you up on that sometime!! Thanks!!

[@bajasoobnut]

@@motomule not a prob! I'm a modelmaker that works up in Beaverton and is always running CNC Mills using mastercam and the like but can get you going on a bit of stuff for sure.

[@williamsantiago7303]

I do not see the difference in the cheap Chinese cvt and this high dollar one. The only difference is that the high dollar one has been buffed out, and the cheap Chinese one isn't. They both require some cutting on the casting, and the bearing on both of them are the same. Why would I want to buy this one for so much more money when the cheap one does the same job. I don't get it.

[@aburr6388]

It's 100% a cvt

[@daviddewilde8041]

It's more than that 😉 It even has a centrifical clutch incorporated

[@jasonbirch1182]

Please don't do things to fit in with the young and not so young guys that don't know what they are talking about, it's not fine, if you know what I'm saying. It's a comet torque-a-verter that got them all saying the absolute not even close thing. Try to teach people the right way to do things not the wrong way like many others. It's a CVT not a torque converter. You don't ever hear anyone saying they need to work on replace or tune the torque converter on a snowmobile or golf cart, because they don't have one. Only go kart and mini bike kids that are just saying what they hear on some not so experienced guys channels are calling a CVT a torque converter. So tell them, on your growing channel, the correct term for it. Don't dumb yourself down because others do please.

[@motomule]

I agree, just like we call facial tissue Kleenex... We are creatures of habit and easy to influence.. I'll do my best to present the facts and share what I've learned. I also don't want to come across as a "know it all", so it's a fine line to walk, don't want to rock the boat too much...