Thanks again Wade for you and your team taking the time to post yet another how to video. I know these videos take a lot of time to create, edit and post. I will be performing this upgrade asap. Appreciate you!
@thoroughbreddieselАй бұрын
Our pleasure! You're welcome!
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench3 ай бұрын
Great overview Wade. Definitely a must have, practical mod to every Powerstroke. In addition to the printer instructions, I also found S & S’s KZbin install vid. It’s 1 & 1/2 hours, so even slow learners like me should be able to install the kit.
@thoroughbreddiesel3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@LWRC2 жыл бұрын
You would think in 2022, that the designers and manufacturer of the CP4 pump would have solved the CP4 failure already!!!
@ARCSSelfDefense Жыл бұрын
You would think.....
@LocoSOB7 ай бұрын
How is Ford supposed to make money if they fix that problem?
@lParohlx4 ай бұрын
@@LWRC people still buy the truck at a premium price and then their motor-craft department keeps selling injectors and pumps making tons of money they love it why fix it
@LWRC4 ай бұрын
@@lParohlx What do they say about a FOOL AND HIS MONEY??!!! We landed men on the moon back in 1969 and yet in 2024, we can't solve a simple high pressure pump problem??!! Either Ford has incapable engineers or they're sandbagging and doing this on purpose!
@michaelbenoit2489 ай бұрын
Just installed the Gen 2 kit on a 2019 F550, & from doing the kit the instructions are taken directly out of the Ford IDP service manual for removing the 2 intakes. The hardest part of the whole kit was the 1 but under the high pressure fuel line for the fuel filter cup. Took 30 min to get it out. If you are doing this job go watch the S&S video because they explain in depth better where it all hooks up. I was confused, & the video helped a lot.
@thoroughbreddiesel8 ай бұрын
Glad it worked out!
@johnmills87602 жыл бұрын
I installed this kit on my truck. It was very noisy so I contacted S&S through email. They told me it was normal and to check my hoses that that could be causing some of the noise. After driving a few days for work I got a major fuel leak. I had the truck towed to a local diesel shop. Ended up being my driveshaft seal in my cp4 was leaking. I had the shop check over my work and they installed a new cp4 and it blew out the driveshaft seal on it as well. We then took the S&S kit off and put on another pump and now everything is fine. I contacted S&S again they asked what seal in the cP4 and if I have a aftermarket lift pump. I have an air dog lift pump. After responding I got no response from them. Did I miss something are you not supposed to install these with aftermarket lift pump. I’m out a lot of money after putting this kit on did I miss the warning not to use if you have an aftermarket lift pump?
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
Aftermarket lift pump shouldn’t have effected this. S&S does a great job in responding to this so it may be wise to call them directly. If you need any assistance give us a call as well. 866 737 4966
@gratefultrucker7781 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the after market lift pump would matter unless your lift pressure was way to high.
@NewOldSchool2 жыл бұрын
This should come on all stock.
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench3 ай бұрын
Yep, charge me more for the truck up front, instead of continuing to use a system that’s prone to failure. Reminds me of the aluminum wheels w/ steel valve stem corrosion issue. Waiting to see the outcome of the class action lawsuit, hoping to get proper replacement wheels on my dually.
@joelcurtis11512 жыл бұрын
If you already purchased your kit prior to the upgrade it’s going to cost you around 60+ dollars for the new filter housing + shipping , so around 80 bucks when it’s all said and done, and did you notice no o r said anything about the fact that one of the selling points and benefits of the previous kit was that you could see the fuel in the clear plastic filter housing
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
We said that in our previous video with the clear filter.
@jamesmcintire38002 жыл бұрын
Sounds like I need this on my ‘14
@SUBI_PaT2 жыл бұрын
Wade for president another Stella video nicely done sir let’s do a poll wade for president you got my vote maybe diesel will be cheaper 😂😂😂😂😂 nice job wade seriously awesome stuff.
@bellcats02 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job on the video
@thoroughbreddiesel11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ericnadir5032 ай бұрын
Have one of thease dpk on every one of my 6.7 no brainer!
@dv74312 жыл бұрын
Got mine today super fast shipping thank you
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear!
@tekshield5 ай бұрын
Does that Donaldson Filter rust when water get's in it? I am asking because I have seen other videos that show those metal filters rust and then will send rust back through the system.
@thoroughbreddiesel5 ай бұрын
The fuel passes through two filters before getting to the high pressure system so we haven’t had any instances of that.
@rickeyketchum66712 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the spe one on my 2016 do you think I would be better to trade it out for the S&s gen 2.1
@Rabbitslayer2572 жыл бұрын
Im wondering the same thing lol
@marksr19072 жыл бұрын
I have the previous generation - can it be upgraded? Perhaps the filter body and filter? Any offerings on an "upgrade kit"?
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/cp4-67f-bp-g21-fhu/
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/cp4-67f-bp-g21-rfa/
@vincetosto2332 жыл бұрын
Checked the Donaldson filter is only a 9 micron filter. Was wondering if you guys tried any other filters? Saw Wix has a 1 micron filter with matching threads/size, haven’t gotten my hands on one yet to check.
@rvadventures2 жыл бұрын
I can't stand Donaldson filters,they have terrible customer service and cheap built filters that are over priced.
@goldtooth10 Жыл бұрын
Whats the part number of that Wix? Lets see how the filtration efficiency numbers compare to the Donaldson filter, then we will know if it is suitable.
@TexasHarleyBoy65 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation!
@thoroughbreddiesel Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@samb1980552 жыл бұрын
It's filters so well!!! It turn my red fuel clear!!! Just kidding 😂
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
💀
@handyvan34222 жыл бұрын
shhhhh
@MarsellusWallace20242 жыл бұрын
What do you guys think of me adding a Dorman glass in line filter before this filter so I can see through to look for pieces of metal? If the pump is ruined but the shavings are being filtered, I need to replace the pump as soon as possible. A glass in line filter would let me check for particles. Can anyone think of a problem with doing this? Right now I still have the last model Racor style filter and I like that the fuel is visible.
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
We don’t suggest adding another restriction in the system, also return fuel temperatures need to be taken into consideration too. Change the filter regularly and cut the filter open looking for shavings.
@FRZNTYM1 Жыл бұрын
Will S&S Guarantee this DPK will prevent my fuel system from having a catastrophic failure?
@thoroughbreddiesel Жыл бұрын
No. But this product will protect your fuel system in the event that happens.
@justinperry2392 Жыл бұрын
Jeez i have Freightliners and i dont understand why the baby trucks are always having issues? 2023 and the fuel system isnt figured out...
@md11202 жыл бұрын
With the new Donaldson filter you don't get a clear bowl to see the filtered junk, correct?
@aversings73382 жыл бұрын
Correct
@vincemccarty8787 Жыл бұрын
Will this void ford warranty?
@antoniodeperez12 жыл бұрын
When is best time to install at what miles or let finish warranty I have 2020 f250
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
Earlier the better! S&S makes no claim that this product will not void your warranty, but it will save you a ton of money if the cp4 fails.
@MarsellusWallace20242 жыл бұрын
Do it right now. Worst that can happen is you replace a CP4 instead of your entire fuel system. If neither cost you money, they’ll CERTAINLY cost you time.
@diablokicks12 жыл бұрын
With this revised kit (I have gen 2) you lose the ability to see if there are metal shavings in the return line. The alternative is to cut the filter open?
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
Correct. To monitor just cut the filter open. The plastic previous model was much more expensive to change and wasn’t as reliable. This is a little more hassle but a MUCH better setup.
@jakethesk8roberts7632 жыл бұрын
So does just running additive fuel every fill up not good enough? My cp4 was replaced before I bought my truck the first owner replaced at 75k now do they put the same dumb pump back in when they do that I don’t know if mine was upgraded or not
@jakethesk8roberts7632 жыл бұрын
I have 156k on it now 2014 f250
@JmF2502 жыл бұрын
The pump doesn't get upgraded, the kit separates the fuel going to the injectors from the fuel lubing the pump. If you don't have a big filter on the driver's side firewall, you don't have the kit.
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
Fuel additive is a good start, but not a complete answer to the design flaws of the CP4. Purchase this kit for protection!
@jakethesk8roberts7632 жыл бұрын
@@thoroughbreddiesel how easy is it to install pretty easy or would I need to take it In?
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
It should take about 2.5 hours and it has a 'medium' difficulty level, but this is relevant to your experience. Here's an install video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3yUh6F9oppkpLc
@briancissell77375 ай бұрын
Where can you buy the filter on this kit?
@thoroughbreddiesel5 ай бұрын
Give us a call: 859-737-4966
@chrishappysofar20902 жыл бұрын
This filter system looks and sounds like the low pressure side returning to the tank and not from the pump to the injectors
@F450FTW2 жыл бұрын
The failure happens on the low side, not the high pressure side.
@bris99842 жыл бұрын
I notice 2 or 3 small metal shavings when I change my bottom fuel filter is that normal or I have to get this kit?
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
If you find shavings, needs to be diagnosed as a failure. The bypass kit wont help here.
@bris99842 жыл бұрын
@@thoroughbreddiesel What need to be done to fix it?
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
Bring it to a mechanic for a diagnosis.
@videtosk2 жыл бұрын
Why not just use a Fuel Lubricant additive?
@TaurenJam2 жыл бұрын
that's what i read, cp4 failure is due to low level lubricity coming from the diesel itself.
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
The fuel additive, although a good idea to increase lubricity and cetane, doesn’t correct the design flaw of the CP4.
@videtosk2 жыл бұрын
It seems that the design flaw is in the design of the US diesel. No lubricity. I’m not hearing of many failures in Europe.
@Farmer_17762 жыл бұрын
Hello Gelding Diesel!
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
Good day to you plant fairy!
@landcobuilderslandcobuilde44842 жыл бұрын
How much is this kit and where can it be bought?
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/cp4-67f-bp-g21/
@landcobuilderslandcobuilde44842 жыл бұрын
Another question. Do you need a lift pump to add this? If the CP4 is bypassed then how does it pump fuel? Forgive my ignorance as I am no mechanic. I had my last truck which was a Chevy deleted which had a lift pump and I would like to add one to the Ford I just bought. Do I need a programmer to add a lift pump?
@jorrick662 жыл бұрын
@@landcobuilderslandcobuilde4484 ford has a factory lift pump
@floydwilliams33212 жыл бұрын
Very cool wade
@143cowgirl2 жыл бұрын
What is the micron size of you filter?
@Uncle_Fester242 жыл бұрын
9 microns is what the filter spec says.
@korn1116852 жыл бұрын
The most important part of the title is “could”. Think about that people.
@mikelewallen59172 жыл бұрын
How much
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/cp4-67f-bp-g21/
@joshuagalchutt3483 Жыл бұрын
Just curious if this would void the factory warranty if I installed it. Pretty sure I'm not wanting to deal with this bastard grenading .
@thoroughbreddiesel Жыл бұрын
We have not heard of any dealerships denying warranty with this installed, but we cant speak for what some dealerships will do. If its in question, remove the kit before taking for warranty service.
@camionero0211 ай бұрын
I have water in fuel
@thoroughbreddiesel11 ай бұрын
If you WIF light is on, change filters, drain tank, and be conscious of what water could cause in the fuel system.
@dixiemae50422 жыл бұрын
I thought adding a Cummins was the best mod for AnY ford owner
@carlosmedrano35492 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of people who are and where ram owners that are know ford owners
@dixiemae50422 жыл бұрын
@@carlosmedrano3549 so they did all did a Cummins swap as well … good for them 👍🏻👍🏻
@JmF2502 жыл бұрын
The Cummins is great, the rest of the truck is a dumpster fire👎
@handyvan34222 жыл бұрын
i was gonna swap a cummins in once i blew mines up, that way i can run filtered waste oil
@shanetaylor75812 жыл бұрын
@@dixiemae5042 hey you dropped your transmission back there🍻
@lewisbolman78622 жыл бұрын
I just seen another video that states at +30,000 psi this little filter screen isn't stopping metal from getting in??? Now I have seen many of you telling me this is the cats pajamas, but are you all getting paid to tell us this???
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
Where is that video?
@lewisbolman78622 жыл бұрын
@@thoroughbreddiesel I have been looking on utube for hours , it is a white dude in front of a large red tool box with a lockable work top. I didn't click on it I guess cause it doesn't show up in previous viewed. I will keep looking .
@lewisbolman78622 жыл бұрын
Ok it is " Ford 6.7L power stroke fuel system failure | everything you need to know, and about the disaster prevention kit is at 17:50. The site is flying wrenches.
@lewisbolman78622 жыл бұрын
Now I can stop looking ! Hours sir, hours.
@jacobsheets68602 жыл бұрын
@lewis bolman what’s your consensus? I’ve been studying too because I’ve picked up a 2018 with 90k miles. I have seen tons of trucks that have gone 250k+ with literally nothing done but basic maintenance. Truck still has CPO warranty too so I’m not too rushed at the moment.
@jimbobxcityguy53382 жыл бұрын
It's all snake oil. I've had many 6.7's since 2011. Many miles All kinds of stations bought fuel from. Had DEF in tank a few times. Never an issue.
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand the thought process of " it hasn't happened to me so it can't be true".
@JmF2502 жыл бұрын
While failures happen a lot less than the internet leads you to believe, they still happen. I've known 3 people to grenade their CP4. For $400 and 4 hours of my time, this kit is well worth the peace of mind for me.
@zachwalker50852 жыл бұрын
You should make a kit to upgrade gen 1 kits to add the new filter @thoroughbreddiesel
@thoroughbreddiesel2 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@joshuaziegler12 жыл бұрын
@@thoroughbreddiesel I have the 2011 6.7 and I did the 1st gen kit that had me cut the fuel line. A kit that includes the new fuel line that was previously cut would be nice. I've seen them for sell around $200. I'm sure with a bulk purchase S&S could get a much better price.