BEST OF: DRIVERS FOR THE AVERAGE GOLFER // Take Your Driving To The Next Level

Today we continue our best of series with a feature on the best drivers you can find for the average swing speed golfer. See which one could help your game now.
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[@clintsanderson6019]

“Average Golfer” 105-107 mph 290 down the middle Got it 👍🏼

[@MXJEFF94]

My 72 year old playing partner still swings 103-106mph. Its not hard unless you are just naturally ungifted athletically speaking.

[@FinbarrAherne]

@@MXJEFF94 I'm playing golf 30 years and swing driver currently around the 105mph speed, and I know for a fact that the average swing speed is way, way lower than 105mph. I win society long drives every year at that speed. I'm easily in the top 10% of the golfers distance-wise every week. The average golfer swings far closer to 90mph and averages ~210-220 yards. Obviously, the young lads who go to the gym would destroy me (+30-40 yards), but we're talking about averages and those lads are easily in the top 3%.

[@tonybytheway7543]

105mph isn't "average". I believe the average male golfer is more like 90-95mph. Better if Mikey did this and swung a little within himself.

[@johnhoward8668]

I agree totally. Thanks for your comment.

[@gkLA33]

Maybe they’re using the metric system! But yea you’re 100% correct 135-140mph ball speed is “average”. In fact Mikey should be hitting not Ian

[@pauldissanayake7085]

If you guys think that the average golfer swings at 105 mph, you’re hanging out with the wrong crowd. Most men would be ecstatic hitting it 250 yards. 300 is just a dream.

[@DanGranz72]

Why is Mike not hitting these shots? He seems to fit the more "average" golfer profile more than Ian. Or even maybe have an average golfer hit these, or maybe even take the results of 20-30 fits from your average guys and say x or y seems to be fitting people better.

[@MXJEFF94]

Because we dont want to see Mikey spray it all over the course.

[@turbobiler1820]

😅😅😅

[@peterthanasse1321]

Average Golfers are not swinging 105 on average. According to latest data from Trackman golf, average is 93mph across all men, and according to some other data, 45% of male golfers swing between 92-98 mph. Sorry, as much fun as this video is, 105-107 is way too high. Thanks! :)

[@dan8085]

Who are you including in this "average"? 13 year olds and geriatrics?!??

[@pauldissanayake7085]

Data across all men, the average is barely over 90 mph. Its statistics. Not wishful thinking.

[@dan8085]

​@@pauldissanayake7085Thanks for admitting that you're including 70-80 year olds who skew the stats

[@paulsor2244]

should also take into consideration how many old people fuck the stats up

[@brucefrank5556]

@@dan8085 Geriatrics? Who uses that word? Agism, the last socially accepted prejudice.

[@and16942]

I thought I was average swinging around 103-107. Personal best of 112 but that was out of my shoes. Thanks comment section for the ego boost! FYI… speed training works. Im in my 40s and was swinging in the mid to high 90s just 2 seasons ago. I’m using Superspeed but all of them are essentially the same

[@kg1981]

GUYS please look at the data, average swing speed is no where near 105 mph.

[@woosha10]

I got fitted for the Darkspeed Max with the Hazardus CB 50 earlier this year it’s been awesome for my game it’s really improved the dispersion of my drives highly recommend this club .

[@randymahony8157]

Thanks, guys. I'm getting ready for a new bag of clubs and I'm watching the best of videos.

[@marshallw4492]

Excellent vid. Ian might be too good to accurately mimic the "average" golfer based on strike, but I think for a speed 105 comparison is perfectly reasonable. In the end, if you are -5mph or + 5mph from that target, the performance isn't going to vary enough that the results would be invalidated. Additionally, people that are watching the channel, aren't going to be your "average-average" weekend hackers. They are going to be enthusiasts, and likely, higher performers.

[@mikeweaver79]

This is great thanks

[@dead_prez7266]

Here I thought I was the average golfer… this average golfer can’t hit 300 yard drives unfortunately 😂😢

[@dan8085]

Average golfer can definitely swing it 105 with a full swing. Now whether or not they can it the ball properly is a another story

[@dead_prez7266]

@@dan8085 exactly haha!

[@pbenga]

This average golfer can.....with my ball hitting the cart path and rolling an extra 60 yards. LOL

[@seancondon2097]

Great test. Watching again to see why GT2 was not the clear winner. Looked like the best ball speed, carry, total and spin rate.

[@zacdavis7]

Dude I was thinking the same thing. Like how was at least not #2.

[@chrissygoncarsbikes7872]

I’ll start by saying I love this channel and watch every video and will continue to do so. However, guys come on! If you hit any modern driver out of anywhere close to the middle, there’s just nothing to choose between them. Maybe 2 yards, what difference does that make? You are still hitting the same club on your next shot. If there was a driver out there that could get you 15 yards further down the fairway that changed your 8 to a 9 iron approach to a green, then yeah.

[@kev12558]

‘Average’ golfer at our club, a tough links course Southern UK, is about 15 handicap, so not 105 ss. I would say more 90-95 ish. Invariably not straight down the middle either. Just saying.

[@jensjurgenhartel1047]

Find a customer that hits 90 or 95 mph, which would be much more realistic for the average Golfer. Also confirmed by Arccos data about driver length by age and HCP group, because it directly relates.

[@WilliamWright-hf8ob]

Good Video boys !!! but I think for the very first time I found the comments more entertaining than the video , people arguing about what a average swing speed is !!!

[@zacdavis7]

I get the comments about this being to fast for average golfers but I still love these types of videos. GT2 should have won though just saying!

[@innerzg6547]

mizuno should be in the lot it is in the average golfer price too xD

[@normlang1994]

I know it's not the purpose of this video, but I can't imagine ever buying another current gen driver. My Sim 2, which I bought two gens old, is still a great club.

[@MassAppealGolf]

You guys need to hire me to be your “average golfer” haha 😂 I excel at average

[@InternetMechanic]

overall male average might be lower, but i think 105 is a good average for male viewers of this video. Most those old guys with slow swing speeds aren't watching these videos. If you are between ages 18-50 ish and are not seriously injured, you should be able to swing a driver over 100MPH quite easily. my 55 year old dad can swing it over 100mph but can't drive longer than 220 because of launch conditions and strike inconsistencies

[@PikeyScott]

Excellent, thank you!

[@willallan77]

I got fitted by Clubchampion in Australia and picked up the GT2. Just waiting for its arrival... It was the best feeling out of all the drivers I tried and not to mention added about 54 yards and tighter groupings than the Taylormade, Cobra, Callaway and Ping. So looking forward to playing with it on course....

[@RocRanallo]

Mikey needs to on the GC quad! Ian, you’re too good to simulate an average golfer. No offense to Mikey, but he represents the average golfer more than Ian. I would love to see data averaged from your fittings in each of these heads.

[@hypent500]

Ping g430 LST was best forgiveness for me Ai smoke TD great distance Qi10 LS best ball flight Cobra was too different for me Titleist GT4 most consistent performance Ended up with qi10. Never has any other driver given me that ball flight. Keeping the ping for those days my swing is not right for most fairways hit

[@SgtPepper69]

Would of liked to see the mizuno 230 max as its price is dropping faster than the others

[@jcar14]

As fitters, they know that Ping with the same shaft (tip stiff with a lower balance point) at the same length for all heads swingweights way heavier than the rest. To test it at this length is to not actually do what they do every day in studio.

[@chuckpalmer284]

Average golfer does not swing 105 nor do we hit 275-yard carry drives. Much closer to 100 mph and 240 carry. Also, most of us do not use a 9 degree loft.

[@hbyrdut]

I could be wrong but you guys probably get a little above average golfers who come to you for fittings.

[@chico3136]

Digging the polo Ian. What brand?

[@seancondon2097]

Does the Graphite Design Shaft play soft to flex? S+ rather than true X? It seemed better at this swing speed than Ian's normal speed earlier in season. No left pulls.

[@Ugghahbuggah]

Mini driver is the correct answer

[@4DTV]

Since when did an average golfer spec up at £900 Driver? A standard level shaft at 100 miles an hour would be more accurate.

[@woosha10]

That’s interesting 🤔 900 pounds my darkspeed driver with a different shaft was around 300 pounds . I’m in Australia

[@rotc1v]

Why not the g430 10k?

[@darenrodillas5662]

Lets actually get a average golfer to do this fitting, with a realistic driver distance of 215-240 range

[@kenmack5179]

Tour Edge for part 2

[@c_vincent_p]

LOVE you guys and your channel, BUT no way the “average” golfer is 100+ swing speed (unless they either don’t give a crap on where it goes, or whether they actually hit it or not). I’d say a more reasonable “average” would be in the 80-95 range, if we’re talking most guys, mid-handicap. Said golfers are all over the place in accuracy also. I get the point of the video, and like I said, it is well received, but a scratch golfer hitting driver above average, doesn’t do much for the “average” golfer. Lol

[@pierremystique5335]

108 mph dead straight is average. What's slightly above average ? John Rahm?

[@jcar14]

This isn’t about the average golfer they just use that term to categorize the heads. Sorry for the boys in the comments who were gonna buy driver based on this test even though they constantly tell you to get fit.

[@turbobiler1820]

I love your videos but this is NOT AVERAGE Joe speed 😂 . Give the stick to Mikey 😊

[@billmcgloin487]

Got to agree with other comments, this is nowhere near the ‘average’ golfer. 107mph and 290 yds is not average. Mikey hitting would have been closer

[@orlandogolfguruogg5382]

105 average? X flex? 😐

[@curtisrichey4431]

I guess I need below average. How about 90-95?

[@Timanator]

What kind of a test is this?

[@tsbuckjr44]

Still not sure why you don't test what these drivers do with mishits ONLY. I.e. hit every driver a half inch off the toe, 5 times. Then, hit it off the heel 5 times. THAT data comparison will give a true representation of what a driver is capable of for the average golfer. We've seen plenty of comparisons with centered strikes by now...

[@wrexz]

he tests irons at 70, 80, and 90 mph swing speeds too

[@tsbuckjr44]

@@wrexz I never said anything about swing speed lol

[@robguenther1648]

I love you guys and have been watching this channel since 25k subscribers, but this test or review or whatever you want to call just doesn't jive. Having a scratch golfer who can swing 115mph and hit the center of the face consistently, dial it down to 105 and hit the center on every strike is not representative of the average golfer. You guys have a massive customer base, I'm sure you guys could have found a 15-18 handicap with a 95-100 swing speed to do this test.

[@jacobmccain8082]

Watching you barely swing and just stripe balls right down the middle every single time makes me wonder why you don't do that on course. Would make an interesting comparison.

[@ianfrasergolf]

😂, we joke about that in the studio also. It’s a very experience in the studio versus the course, especially for someone like myself that is so used to hitting balls inside. Other golfers aren’t as comfortable indoors.

[@funmachine3]

@@ianfrasergolf😆 it feels foreign hitting inside

[@ianfrasergolf]

@@funmachine3 unfortunately for me the golf course is what feels foreign these days for myself.

[@and16942]

@@ianfrasergolfso jealous of that super smooth, effortless swing. I know you’re chipping them but it looks like butter and they’re going decently far

[@IPv6Freely]

THIS is the average golfer? lol

[@donalddopp1257]

The average golfer doesn't swing at 107

[@throwingdartsandbreakinghearts]

Ya, if you're an "average golfer", don't watch this. 105mph? Gtfo!

[@LanceBaral-w4g]

average golfer is 100 max

[@private_security]

BEST OF: DRIVERS FOR GOLFERS WHO ABSOLUTELY SUCK (AVERAGE)

[@DaveFogel]

Ian is hitting my average playing speed so I appreciate him and the test

[@jeremiahmclane2374]

I'm about 150 ball speed and play the TSR2, is it worth moving to the GT?

[@jayburbs15]

Once again.... stay in your lane people. 100-105 is what us Professional fitters see day in, and day out. Why do people question everything these days?? Are you bored? Read a book. 🎉😊

[@zakwatson6988]

Those are not the drives of an average golfer! 🤣

[@DaveFogel]

Just swing faster Mikey

[@alexanderchung404]

Agreed that the Callaway AI Smoke Max is a great driver especially with the misses (pity mines is in that tiny tiny area in the heel but that is more down to me rather than the driver)

[@ianfrasergolf]

It would be worth exploring so different shafts and shaft lengths to see if you can move that strike around.

[@seancondon2097]

Would extra length help move a toe strike closer to center? ​@@ianfrasergolf

[@alexanderchung404]

@@ianfrasergolf a wee trip to see the Jospehs then 😁

[@ianfrasergolf]

@@alexanderchung404 yessir, a visit to the maestro will sort you out!!

[@ianfrasergolf]

@@seancondon2097 no, Sean it would more likely be a change in bend profile.

[@brucefrank5556]

Average golfers barely average 200 yards. Video not for me.

[@scottmccaig6185]

155 ball speed is not average

[@ianfrasergolf]

We said that once we got hitting that the speed I was replicating was a bit above average.

[@scottmccaig6185]

@@ianfrasergolf love what you guys do

[@dan8085]

105 swing speed is

[@MXJEFF94]

My 72 year old playing partner still swings 103-106mph. Its not hard unless you are just naturally ungifted athletically speaking.

[@brucefrank5556]

@@MXJEFF94 That's very short sighted and untrue. Just wait. It will happen to you also. I was a 5 handicap, now I can only hit it 230 at best. Most drives are less. Time takes a toll.

[@MXJEFF94]

@@brucefrank5556 You know nothing about me. I'm older. I've literally broken my neck, had shoulder surgeries and have metal in my Tib/FIB. Even with all of my injuries, I can still swing it around 110mph. If you cant swing a driver over 100mph...You don't work at golf (no stretching, etc), Could be a woman; or 75 + years old w/ severe disabilities.

[@brucefrank5556]

@@MXJEFF94 You are very uniformed. Poor guy.

[@MXJEFF94]

@@brucefrank5556 🤣

[@brocklambert]

What a useless test.

[@matthewthompson6329]

Average golfers can also swing fast! It doesn't state average swing speed. Chill out everyone 😂

[@michaeldejesus]

average? LoL

[@douglasbelton503]

You lost me at 105 mph - are you sure it’s not kilometers 🤔😳🙄😮😉🤪🏌🏻‍♂️???