Best PC for VR in 2023!

[@Isaax]

It's both a testament to its greatness as well as a tragedy that nigh 5 years later, the Index is still the best overall package you can get for PCVR.

[@misteryolo7248]

Quest 3 dummy

[@iconoclass]

The Index is still the GOAT. It's a shame no headset has come along since that provides a better overall experience for PCVR.

[@pixel_eyezd3805]

Cope harder; even though the data is compressed, the resolution you get from the quest 3 is more than that of the index.

[@Isaax]

@@pixel_eyezd3805 Fantastic bro, enjoy your pixels. I don't give a shit.

[@iconoclass]

It's about more than pixels, it's about the whole experience. Spec sheets don't take that into account. I returned my Quest 3 bc Index is better for me (and I already have it)

[@jumbojimbo706]

Im sat here with my rtx 3060 and just upgraded to a 5800x3d, pretty pleased watching this video lol

[@tecinplace1316]

The only specific reason to recommind 4060 instead of 3060 is the AV1 streaming, which is a game changer for people who use Quest 3 wireless PCVR

[@scarecrow5848]

...dont use a wireless headset and get a 7800xt. Easy.

[@tecinplace1316]

Sorry but I'd rather be able to freely move in my medium that involves movement

[@scarecrow5848]

@@tecinplace1316 sorry but you can still get full movement on a cabled headset :) wired and standalone are both just lies for VR.

[@GhernieM]

I use either H264 set for 500Mbps or AV1 at 150 Mbps with Visual Desktop. Usually high throughput H264 provides less artifacts than AV1. Unless devs allows us for higher throughput for AV1, it's not a miracle yet.

[@akirakato3755]

I feel like AMD cards should be revisited now or a few months time. Their drivers have been a lot better than when rdna 3 launched and newly recent options like the 7800xt and 7900 GRE are considerations if you want that 16gb vram for vrchat and other vr titles. Even when running on desktop, my 7800xt with its 16gb vram saved me a lot of vram hassle in big worlds with lots of ppl in them since I just run the normal safety settings.

[@babixillo]

hey thanks for explaining the features specifically for vr, this is what i need! i'm still torn between 7600x am5 or 5800x3d, in 4k the performance looks similar even without the 3dcache on 7600x would that still be the case for vr? the build price is similar but i'm leaning towards am5 for future upgrade. i would love a 7800x3d but its out of my budget. my gpu choice is 3090 and i mainly only play skyrimvr.

[@iconoclass]

X3D is mostly super useful for Unity games, if you're not mostly playing those and building a new PC then yes I would recommend an AM5 chip and board

[@babixillo]

@@iconoclass thanks for the advice!

[@proconceal666]

Would've been cool if it was longer I prefer longer more in depth content than short to the point content. I would have still watched full length if it was 1 hour+

[@iconoclass]

maybe I'll save that for a future vid where I discuss my benchmarks. I can only say so much before I start to sound like I'm repeating myself, and my retention stats show that I can only keep the audience's attention for so long. I think I went more in depth for VR PCs than any other video or article that I could find

[@FragrantPixelSociety]

Using a rx 7800xt 16gb, I have no problems but you are right, it can be in consistent with frames at times. Although it’s nothing insane. The new rtx 4070 ti super would probably be a good option if I wanted to get something under $1000 that has vr consistency and minimal driver issues.

[@HenryPreddey]

Im running vr on a 1060 with 3gb of vram, an i7 2600, and 32 gigs of ddr3 ram, and im still getting around 60 fps on blade and sorcery on lowish settings. Using a quest 2 btw.

[@melodytaffy8511]

I just switched from a 7900XTX to a 4090. For me, i had to stay on an old driver with the 7900XTX to run steamvr, the latest wouldnt work at all, but other people with a 7900xtx have vr working. im just happy im done with that mess of drivers. But im still curious why that just affected me

[@whitygoose]

im considering 7900xtx now, is it really bad for VR? what version of driver is stable for VR?

[@melodytaffy8511]

@@whitygoose appearently someone else has a newer driver working with vr, they have a 7900xtx. But for me i had to stay on adrenalin 23.7.2. So yeah your choice, safer to go nvidia but thats pricier. Could work fine who knows

[@Rome19xx]

Great vid, I wished I'd have watched your vid before I bought my Ryzen 9 . Is there anything I can do?

[@iconoclass]

sell it and buy an X3D chip. or just wait for the next X3D chip before selling yours

[@goodvibesvr2739]

you should be good lol i also bought a ryzen 9 5900x last week and im using a 6700xt for my gpu. i would more than likley get a newer gpu. you can get away with a ryzen 5 2600x with vr to be honest

[@navail9006]

Hello, i just wanted to ask you if you could maybe someday make a video showing us how you made that really cool background with the blinking blue lights that was in your patreon announcement video, it looks really cool and would like to implement it into some of my work if that is ok?

[@iconoclass]

There is a tutorial for it by CGMatter! It's called Indie Movies Are Pretentious. It was made in Blender and is a voronoi applied to the world space shading.

[@pixel_eyezd3805]

I’d love to see that follow up video on this, great info.

[@retrowave69]

I've seen someone run VRC on a 5800x3d and a 6950xt at a stable 90fps. Considering I can't even stay at a stable 45 fps with a 2080 super (8gb VRAM), that looks pretty good. Besides, AMD GPU driver issues are a thing of the past, at least for the 6000 series GPUs. they're still figuring out the 7000 series.

[@iconoclass]

True, I forgot to mention the 6000 series. The 4000 supers are also better value than the non-supers.

[@AstroBot-bc0213]

I have a hard time believing vrc runs stable on anything higher than 30-45 fps on any system

[@DaytimeNightmare]

I just want to run ACC at Max Settings in VR 😑... Im going to try a 4090 Omen 45l. I have MSI 4070... And even that doesnt Max....... Still running my quest 3 and may even upgrade that 😑.... But ive heard that this game is jus impossible sometimes.

[@jubinha]

I thought it was best as in the best pc with a good price for it's power (best cost benefit) but you really meant the BEST huh 😭

[@iconoclass]

I recommended 4 different configurations at 4 different budgets that are the best value

[@caosking7869]

my rx 7600 works with ALVR and hw encoding on arch pretty good

[@Asylus]

So would a 3060 ti be bad?

[@darkdayzdawn4984]

No. A 3060 ti is more than enough for 99% of VR games.

[@erichdiebenow4727]

just bought a used 3090 for 700 dollars off ebay. Its amazing really good card

[@n8dawg727]

7900xtx works just fine with vr. I do it everyday no problem 24 gb vram and only like 950$ and it's better than a 4080 spec wise on basically every game n it's cheaper than one too still.

[@GhernieM]

I also use 7900xtx. It's not terrible, but could be better. I have feeling that 4080 would be slightly better due to it's features like fovecated rendering

[@BellatrixLugosi]

i got exact build quest 2 wiith ryzen 78003xd and 4070 ti before watching this video

[@underscoremavis]

dont disagree with the build, just wish they'd enforce texture compression by default, block 4k textures or maybe theres a better solution. plus acknowledge that EAC actually reduced overall performance anywhere from 10% to 30%. people can optimize their avatars, theres tools to check your vram usage, overall package size and more.(Thryrallo's Avatar Performance Tools) though, most don't give a shit and think "oh its pc itll be fine" but their avatars are 200mb vram+ and they wonder why their game runs like swamp ass in hot july

[@iconoclass]

texture compression only reduces download size, not vram size. That's what I was saying that all textures of the same size take up the same amount of vram. Tupper explains this in the video update that screenshot is from. the only way to lower texture vram size is to lower the resolution (or maybe force the use of mipmaps, if VRC allowed it)

[@moonoramaVR]

EAC doesn’t cause any big performance drops. Certainly not 10% - 30%. Plus texture compression wouldn’t help, since the textures need to be uncompressed to be seen in VRChat. And yeah, optimized content does play a big in system performance. Take the opportunity to optimize whenever possible.

[@underscoremavis]

myself and other friends must be hallucinating about it then. they banned anyone in the vrc disc who mentioned it, shrug. mip maps would be good though, completely forgot about those since we cant have em. sounds like a better solution than 4k blocking. to be fair i couldnt think of another solution besides people manually downscaling their textures, buuut, we know a lot aren't gonna do that lols

[@hellopsp180]

3090ti is better than 7900 xtx for VR literally just because of drivers

[@scarecrow5848]

Wrong, AMD has better hardware performance in most titles for GPU's. You clearly haven't done enough reading. NVIDIA wins in DLSS and RTX yeah, but everywhere else AMD wins.

[@Rebe-Caufman]

@@scarecrow5848lol , no😂😂😂

[@EndiFreeKolesio]

@@scarecrow5848 i have 7900xtx and drivers are hit & miss. endless tinkering makes you unenthusiastic about vr

[@finntasticboy]

ok for budget somthing like a gtx 1070 founders wich can be found for 120-150 used is a super solid graphics card especially when not bottlenecked

[@pixel_eyezd3805]

6:21 did he say “pornographics”?

[@iconoclass]

"important to graphics" lmfao you just revealed your dirty mind