Best Plateless 60% Keyboard You Can Actually Buy Instock - Vertex Arc60

[@AndyVNguyen]

THIS IS LIVE ON SALE ON 1/14/22 12PM EST. IT HAS NOT GONE LIVE YET. Made a few mistakes in the video! Should be GMK WoB at 3:33 but also I called this a brass weight but it’s double anodized aluminum. So when you’re comparing prices, keep that in mind!

[@ghostjokster5852]

Honestly this hobby has came a long way with more innovation that each company comes out with. Gasket boards are sounding better, top mounts are becoming more accessible, and there are more variety with keeb case and foam material to mess with. My personal fav with new innovation is the Akko spr68 the new spring mount is so interesting.

[@AndyVNguyen]

I definitely dig it in the entry and mid tier space

[@hsm6996]

Mmm yes spring mount is akko original innovation 😏

[@ghostjokster5852]

@@hsm6996 never said it was, but it’s probably one of the best it’s been done.

[@polynotgone8349]

⁠@@hsm6996Definitely not original but it’s a lot more refined than Keybored’s

[@jalexanderc]

One more time for the people in the back Used 👏 keyboards 👏 should 👏 not 👏 be 👏 sold 👏 above 👏 retail

[@bakeraus]

All I know is that JST cable with the screw to fix it down is next level. I would just buy it for that, I know that pain too well.

[@involuntarysoul3867]

double side tape is your friend

[@IronCan88]

Arcane (the one in the video) is the best color for this keyboard. It's beautiful, classy, and stealthy.

[@oakerface95]

For the sound test at 3:33 it should be wob not dmg lmao

[@AndyVNguyen]

Dammit my life is over

[@oakerface95]

@@AndyVNguyen XD

[@iomagine]

PBTfans Vior looks like a perfect match to the Arcane colorway

[@tamegaming1768]

I'm with you on flex cuts. I've been rocking the Tiger80 alu as my main board and compared to the FBTKL I just got it's much quieter unless I use SP star blue pinks, MX blacks or another loud switch, and even then the sound's not at the same level. Love the freebird tho

[@AndyVNguyen]

Yeah milky tops get eaten by the tiger 80 lite config. That’s why people want to swap to alu or fr4 plates.. like myself lol

[@HubertTheMad]

Came back to this video because my friend bought it (he also has a frog mini). Pretty damn good for the price!

[@AndyVNguyen]

it's super nice for the price!

[@arpeykeys]

My Arc60 came and the feet are way too short. I can hear my desk lol. I was thinking maybe it didn't get picked up with your recording setup, but does yours sound a bit thud-y? I'm getting some feet for other boards to experiment a bit with.

[@AndyVNguyen]

I don’t recall hearing thudding. My frog thuds, tho.

[@cobaltknightofficial]

Vertex has been making pretty decent boards recently

[@AndyVNguyen]

Def agree!

[@iichristiaNn]

I actually like that loud ass spacebar LOL

[@AndyVNguyen]

Lmao then you’re golden

[@nickthaskater]

Plateless + flex cuts is my favorite feel. Too often people chase the sound rather than feel. I dunno about you but I feel my typing experience a lot more than hear it.

[@AndyVNguyen]

I also liked plateless flex cut.. for like a week or two. Got tired of the feel as well. I have a half plate on flex cut pcb and it became meh after a while

[@bearIyy]

wish they had options for hotswap, solder, or both so that it was cheaper

[@AndyVNguyen]

I feel like having no extra combinations or separate boxes reduced the cost

[@bearIyy]

@@AndyVNguyen they could've done more to reduce it though i dont think extra combos of pcbs saves 40 or 50 bucks per unit

[@kyu_273]

Monstargear Sangeo60 or vertex arc60? coz I really like the clacky sound of the sangeo60

[@AndyVNguyen]

I wouldn’t change anything then . That sangeo60 clack sound isn’t gonna be found here

[@ivlriswith027]

Violac keycaps from Drop looks amazing on this board. Amazing.. Hnnnnggg...

[@involuntarysoul3867]

cherry lip is cool in the front, not so much on the side and top

[@AndyVNguyen]

I def agree

[@2b2c1d2]

the chat at 5:13 ☠bro they hate u

[@AndyVNguyen]

Lmaooo I just screwed up my typing test

[@matchpoint2899]

You mention the sound profile is deeper - if I wanted full clack with MX Blacks or Zakus, you think it's better to hold off and wait for a clackier board / unikorn / frog mini? 2) Do you know if there will be additional restocks?

[@AndyVNguyen]

I don’t think the frog mini is any clackier. Korn or Bakeneko might be what you really want. The sp star plateless build here is not the most clacky. The alu plate config might be ok? But still wont be as clacky as a gummy o ring board.

[@AndyVNguyen]

I don’t know if there are more restocks. I’d ask in their discord

[@KennethMao]

Nice soldering job on the plateless.

[@AndyVNguyen]

Thanks kenneth! It always takes so long lol

[@AIizs_]

There is only one layout with wk, wkl, and hhkb correct?

[@jessiequema2494]

Which do you like better given that you had this for over a month, Frog Mini or Arc60?

[@AndyVNguyen]

Same opinion, Arc60 if you like plateless, frog if you like top mount type sound/feel. Frog is heavier if that matters

[@jessiequema2494]

@@AndyVNguyen will be shipping my Frog mini really soon. Thanks for helping me decide.

[@AznRealization]

Nice video as always! Andy, what do you think is the best 75% keyboard that's in stock atm? I need a board for my Osume Winterglows

[@BlitzShott]

My suggestion: Mode sonnet is super nice

[@caseyduran1130]

I also suggest the Mode Sonnet, but if you want a higher pitched option there's the Monokei Tomo which has extras floating around rn.

[@AndyVNguyen]

Sonnet, grab Thera75v2 if there are still units, Acr top 75 was not bad at all, keychron v1 is cheapest but works

[@4nhxd]

What will you choose Andy the frog mini or the arc60?

[@AndyVNguyen]

I answer that in the video

[@skepti.r6]

Sangeo60 vs arc60? Which one should i get? I can get them for the same price

[@AndyVNguyen]

Arc

[@oscarsanchez298]

Do you have a video of the frog mini?

[@AndyVNguyen]

the review will come soon!

[@BenPuckett]

Hot take, but that new purple drop set would be sick on this

[@maxmouse3]

That design tho, absolutely beautiful 🥹

[@AndyVNguyen]

It looks so good for an instock board at a lower price. Vertex designs good stuff

[@creationfied]

whats a dogigi

[@hantuan107]

i'm sold solely for the price and that includes 2 PCBs!!!

[@anonymousl5150]

How come you did not mention here that this keyboard has pcb issues? You discussed it in your tier vid.

[@AndyVNguyen]

All the issues were resolved by the time I rebuilt it. Couldn’t replicate it again after - it was just the json loading

[@suki1658]

Damn the Arc60 probably sounds better that my Angle TKL and its cheaper and instock

[@AndyVNguyen]

damn it do feel like that, like angle buyers were beta testers and this is the real product lol

[@kalplays9922]

DMG actually looks phenomenal on that plum color

[@AndyVNguyen]

Right right! Forgot about that. I took it off to put on another keeb temporarily lol

[@AlexMcDermott]

Have you tried topre?

[@AndyVNguyen]

I’ve tried topre but not NICE topre yet. I’m spoiled by lubed stabs and switches so yeah. If the topre build isn’t the same level as a modded mx board then I get turned off fast

[@AlexMcDermott]

@@AndyVNguyen I know what you mean. I'm used to nicely tuned MX boards, but I got an HHKB the other day and there's just something about it. I've been using it stock, and whilst it sounds a little odd, after about an hour or two of use, it's just really addicting. MX just feels kinda boring now 😂 Gonna try the unrealkeyboards topre mod guide soon

[@ethanjeong2040]

gmk rouge might look sick on this

[@AndyVNguyen]

ooff that woulda be kinda fire. but rogue is so specific that it'd be hard to use it with other sets

[@ethanjeong2040]

@@AndyVNguyen Bingsu might fit well too

[@littlebumgorf]

does anyone feel that flex makes the keystroke return feel more sluggish?

[@AndyVNguyen]

It shouldn’t return sluggish. It’ll give more on the press tho.. which makes the whole actuation process feel like it’s taking longer

[@goovindnarula6470]

are these sp star v1 or v3

[@AndyVNguyen]

Blue housing

[@goovindnarula6470]

@@AndyVNguyen yea that's why I asked, v1 and v3 both have blue housings. V2 is grey

[@AndyVNguyen]

original v1, v3 is pretty new right

[@goovindnarula6470]

​@@AndyVNguyen sweet! I didn't know when v3 came out. Can I ask why you still use v1s when v2 are out?

[@nikolakostic5667]

Is 60% still a popular layout in 2023? Personally id rather use literally ANYTHING else. My first "custom" board was a 60% and usability was so bad that like 3 weeks later I ordered a gk64 layout with the misaligned 4th row just to get arrow and delete keys 😂

[@AndyVNguyen]

It is if you have qmk/via compatible keyboards. Mapping makes it much more viable. I have layered arrows under ijkl or I toggle a separate layer to have dedicated arrows. Right alt becomes left, winkey becomes down, right ctrl becomes right, small right shift becomes up.

[@nickthaskater]

40% is the new 65%.

[@aahlala]

GMK Amethyst would also work

[@AndyVNguyen]

I can def see it!

[@muCephei_]

I think GMK Bingsu will work

[@AndyVNguyen]

Ah man expensive lol

[@synergies.]

0:08 what?????

[@AndyVNguyen]

it was instock at time of video

[@synergies.]

No it sounded like you said something else @AndyVNguyen

[@sndrcve]

This board is sold out now 😢

[@AndyVNguyen]

it goes on sale on saturday

[@albertko1]

You're not the only creator that doesn't like flex cuts, I'm definite part of the anti-flexcut gang. Having to tape to get sound out of a board kinda sucks. I wish more 60% boards offered 64 key (arrows in lower right corner) layout.

[@AndyVNguyen]

If you have standard layout, you can map dedicated arrows down there on a separate layer. That’s what I do. I temporarily lose my rshift as it becomes up arrow in this layer

[@BokehhBob]

actually buy in stock... nope jk lol

[@AndyVNguyen]

Goes on sale Saturday. Says on the product page

[@Max-do1ch]

this kids first day in la im assuming

[@AndyVNguyen]

No one knows what you’re talking about

[@Max-do1ch]

@@AndyVNguyen lmao there was some kind of glitch or maybe i was just high cz i stg i commented that on a vid of this dude interviewing a homeless person having a scizophrenic episode but andy my man if i rlly was hating on u u should know that i was just a dumass loser like ppl who hate on a keyboard utbers vid 😑 do not deserve to have they opinion valued in any way stay blessed

[@Max-do1ch]

@@AndyVNguyen i hope u see this lol i feel bad

[@AndyVNguyen]

I see you Max

[@doubledgaming4032]

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[@oakerface95]

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[@kename1280]

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[@shinjichenn]

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