Best Screwdriver Set? Craftsman, Milwaukee, Wera, Wiha, Klein Tools, Felo, PB Swiss, Tekton

[@ProjectFarm]

Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! Wiha: amzn.to/2Yd6cgs PB Swiss: amzn.to/3uw7umq Craftsman: amzn.to/3osszsJ Klein Tools: amzn.to/3uxNzzv Vessel: amzn.to/3B4pR00 Wera: amzn.to/3a2rKOR Milwaukee: amzn.to/3B8dNed Felo: amzn.to/3ot1rKf Channellock: amzn.to/3Fbky1i Tekton: amzn.to/3a5c0uo

[@gammafilter]

Have you looked at the newer milwakee USA screwdrivers? They look like they are the same as the Chinese ones... but they have slightly different features.

[@bluetoes591]

As somebody who committed to Wera years ago, it's nice to see them hold up so well to your torture tests. Not covered by your testing, but the handles are the best I've found for hand comfort and grip too.

[@maxpower9499]

Yup, not only good for comfort and grip, but speed as well. Amazing how much faster you can work with an ergo handle, compared to an old school flat handle like the craftsman.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@Krynn72]

I committed to Wiha myself, and I actually bought the exact same Wiha set about a year ago. When I saw them in this test I was crossing my fingers to make sure it was money well spent. Relieved to see that they were confirmed to be great tools.

[@bertone122]

I got one Wera Phillips screwdriver since 13 years ☺️

[@micahap1559]

@@maxpower9499 I havent had much issue with that except for a few months back a severely worn out 3p main contactor welded together and I could not break loose the old flat lugs. At that time I was wishing for grip! Lol It bent the blade and bits on everything though even an impact driver!

[@skelitalmisfit12]

Im so immensely glad that this kind man takes the time out of his day to make such quality content. I cannot find a single channel that has the same level of utility as this one

[@ProjectFarm]

Wow, thanks so much!

[@landscapingspecialist]

Yes useful, AND entertaining

[@crazybeardave]

Exactly right. Project Farm is practically a public service. In a world where you can't trust any of the nonsense that constantly gets thrown at you, you can trust him.

[@cancermonkey7334]

@@ProjectFarm I’m sure there’s good value in each of the German, Swiss and Japanese tools; and maybe they’re readily available in certain markets. But I really would have liked to see a few more locally available brands tested. Such as: Stanley, DeWalt and some of the big box store house brands, etc. I’d be more likely to purchase one of those than the high priced foreign brands. They seem like more than I would need and more than I’d be willing to pay for. Maybe a follow up test with more brands? Please and thank you. Your tests are a great resource.

[@stanleyhornbeck1625]

What about Snap-on?

[@ricdimarco1499]

As someone in the market for “homeowner”-grade tools, these tests really help me find a decent tool for a decent price, rather than throwing away money on more tool than I need or on replica tools that will end up failing me. I really appreciate that you include a “bang for your buck” result at the end of each video.

[@speedyspooley]

@John Snap-On is HUGE overkill for a homeowner. You're never going to get the cost vs durability ratio to work. Snap On is excellent in quality but the cost is not worth it for an average homeowner. This video shows pretty clearly that Craftsman or Milwaukee is the best bang for your buck for a homeowner screwdriver set. Snap On is for people who make their living with their tools.

[@speedyspooley]

@John Yikes....you are displaying a wholly inordinate amount of hostility. It's weird. The average homeowner doesn't buy tools to resell. The average homeowner does garage projects, routine maintenance, and minor repairs. Snap On is complete overkill for those purposes. I collect & restore old tools as a hobby. My screwdrivers are a mix of Craftsman, Milwaukee, Wiha, Wera, and Klein...none of which have ever failed me...even under some pretty harsh conditions. All of which are vastly less expensive than Snap On. Snap On is for professionals who make their living with their tools...not for the average homeowner. I have no idea why you've chosen to be so hostile and insulting when I've given you no cause.

[@cactiguide]

The best part of these videos is how condensed they are. I don’t have to skip over some life story like so many other videos or even recipes for cooking. Just straight to the data!

[@scrambler350]

THIS. ^

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Yep. PURE VALUE. If you want to make good videos, just give the viewers ONLY the thing they want to see. Nothing more.

[@williamsporing1500]

The guy is great!

[@mc-mc-mc]

Absolutely -- highly uncommon and excellent signal-to-noise ratio in these videos.

[@edrader746]

and no stoopid "intro"

[@andrekoczka3777]

So basically the new routine is before I go shopping for tools and parts I just look up a project farm video, it’s almost too easy now :P

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@dgreen8388]

Dude, same!

[@Ronsonic]

What took you so long?

[@howardhiggins9641]

I have to agree.

[@DarthSiles]

@@ProjectFarm Ok the concluesion from this test is that it‘s allways worth to buy german tools, if you want good quality 😂 But i can say the tool developer here in Germany know that you in America love to use your screwdrivers with your hammer in in the next years should come a screwdriver set from Wera which can more withstand the impact of a hammer then the latest tools.

[@thewatermillscotland]

As an electronics engineer, I have pretty much every size of Wera from micro to regular in every head. After trying many brands I found them to be the best value for money without compromise on quality, and do the least damage to screws - seeing your test results match that experience is very satisfying. On the mill I'm restoring, I've went through multiple cheaper drivers adding electrics before getting a set of Wera just for the mill :)

[@RangerOfTheOrder]

They make micro versions? Like what comes in those electronic repair kits?

[@alexanderjamieson7971]

@@RangerOfTheOrder yes. They're very well made.

[@kurtisb100]

electrician here. I use Wera primarily, although weidemueller also makes I would say equivalent quality tools. Mine are the insulated kind; I think its just a plastic sleeve on the normal screwdriver. That said, I have one Klein in my pouch as well; the #6 flatblade with the square shaft. It's my 'beater blade', so it's a lever, chisel, wedge, pry bar and sometimes I even use it on fasteners . In my experience, the Wera tools are much less prone to damaging fasteners than other brands. Milwaukee isn't bad, but the hand tools are too heavy and clunky. Like a Russian tractor. Plenty strong, just... not wieldy. This test was the one that I most easily predicted the outcome on of all the PF tests. I will say I have no experience with the more expensive brands shown in this test, however.

[@InfraReddest]

Can also confirm Wera’s quality. Apple uses their drivers for device repairs. Been using one of their sets for just under 4 years, and around 4500-5000 individual repairs on phones and other electronics.. I’ve only had to replace one bit so far. 10/10 would use again. Edit: I’d like to add that the only downside of the drivers/bits are the price. The ipr 1 half moon bit (pentalobe for iPhones) runs anywhere from $35-$50 each. Pretty high price from what I’ve seen. But, seeing as how I’ve only replaced it once, less than $10 a year for use is not too bad.

[@wobblysauce]

Replacing screws is something most people don't want to do.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

I've been using that Wera set for years now and they've all been outstanding. Definitely the best bang for the buck if you want to buy once and have tools that will probably last more than your life time.

[@gizzyguzzi]

After damaging hex head button screws with a cheap crappy hex key wrench I did some internet research and decided on the Wera brand set. I had never heard of them before, but I am very impressed with them. Thanks for the comment. Sometimes there is nothing as expensive as a cheap tool!

[@woutd4293]

I also like the Wera stuff a lot, but if you want to use a hammer on your tools, you need to buy the yellow version of the Wera screwdrivers ;)

[@infin1ty850]

I got a Wera set after watching this video when it first came out. Bought a bigger set that also came with some insulated drivers that can be used for electrical work. One of the best purchases I've ever made. Not overly expensive, they seem to be very well made for what I use them for, and honestly think they will last me well over a decade.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing!

[@michaelbronson7410]

A decade? Good hand tools should last you your lifetime! Thats why so expensive brands have a lifetime warranty

[@amethysttalon3507]

Dance move test is definitely the most important by far - should be included in all tests :p

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@enyaisrave2831]

Rave move test 😁

[@mikey_bb]

So glad the dance moves are back in this one 🤣

[@kazikhurshed53]

@@ProjectFarm bro said hammertime like Lewis Hamilton

[@apostolakisl]

I'm 53 years old and bought my Craftsman set when I was in high school. I still have the whole set and they still work great.

[@ProjectFarm]

Nice!

[@ericschulze5641]

Me too except I've gone through multiple sets, when you repair appliances in people's homes they like souvenirs , you know, for charging so much for your knowledge, even the most righteous, will steal your tools, it's bizarre

[@jacobilewis9603]

Use to be made not in Taiwan and they stood behind there tools

[@ericschulze5641]

​@jacobilewis9603 the quality seems to be the same and so far Lowes has been OK with returns, yes I have had to pressure them a bit, when they've said they can't because the tool isn't exactly the same, I have a broken craftsman ratchet "30 - 40" years old that they won't exchange, by the way the new ones are definitely better than the old ones every style of craftsman ratchet I have from the 70s and 80s are junk

[@outboundflight4455]

Were they made by Western Forge? If so your screwdrivers should have a WF engraved on the handle somewhere.

[@funnygrunt_o7]

Those craftsman clear ones are iconic 😂 everyone’s grandpa or dad has those lying around somewhere

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@StattsOG]

I still use my dads he gave me, they are turning yellow but work great and were free.99

[@louf7178]

My reference standard.

[@donaldrobertson5747]

Still have and use regularly the one's I got from my dad.......my brother does as well. If I used them everyday or they made me money, I'd likely invest in better. But I don't, and they don't, so I don't. Save the money for upgrades elsewhere in the shop.

[@frankmfeb13]

My dad or grandfather Def had them at some point lol

[@PhilipBlank]

I don’t know how anyone could watch the video and not subscribe for the sheer dedication of you screwing all those screws in and out just for us. Amazing

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@electronicsNmore]

Outstanding tests! You always make choosing the right brand a breeze. Thank you!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@SDsailor7]

@@ProjectFarm Can you do a test of JIS screwdrivers? Thank you

[@visible2anyoneonyoutube]

@@ProjectFarm can you do electric kettles? Which one is better and if they are cheaper to used compared to traditional kettles?

[@googleusergp]

@@ProjectFarm Yes, your test and videos are excellent. Very interesting.

[@EthanMcKee.]

@@ProjectFarm please do a video on different ratchet brands like Mac, SK, Snap on, Craftsman. That will be a expensive video

[@Farm_fab]

Todd, you reminded me of a set of screwdrivers sold at a local chain store. They claimed that they were "machetic." I guess this means that if they don't remove or install screws in the conventional manner, they can be turned sideways, and chop the screw off. I could just picture you saying, "were going to test that."

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Nice!

[@many-points]

"Apparently manufacturers understand that Americans like to use hammers on their tools". YES, a flat head screwdriver doubles as a chisel, a wedge, a small prybar, etc. That press test was the most important for this reason haha.

[@novoiperkele]

MORE POWARHH MURICA YES!!!

[@rms7254]

Wera actually make a set sepcifically for this, their chiseldrivers, I wonder if their 'normal' drivers don't deform until 700lbs, what would ones designed for extra impact fail at ...

[@epstein_isnt_dead7726]

Milwaukee has a set of drivers (2, Phillips and flat) with solid shafts through the handle and metal 'impact caps'. Absolute monsters, but I have 2 sets of them. One just for bashing and the other for screws. The flat is the best grout chisel/tile wedge I've ever owned. The Phillips makes a great center punch for concrete when you're drilling so your masonry bit doesn't walk all over the place. 10 out of 10 do recommend. Full disclosure, I'm a bit of a Milwaukee groupie. I fully stand behind my review, though

[@volvo09]

I got a laugh out of that!

[@YoSpiff]

I have a large Stanley screwdriver that I used for holding open clamshell copiers when the lifters would no longer hold and the owners were too cheap to replace the lifters.

[@martinblackburn9627]

"Pound for Pound"/ "Tool for Tool"- I'd say , You really do have the best 'Informative Channel' on You Tube!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@IBEWSparky]

The Klein square shank flat is used more as a chisel and locknut tightening tool than a screwdriver so I'm glad you tested that. Also the dance moves test was very informative!

[@whistlinlipo]

Can we appreciate how this guy is still so responsive in the comments despite how large the channel has gotten?! Absolutely amazing!

[@MrTBoneMalone]

Absolutely true!

[@voprais]

Some of the "replies" sound like they're from a bot, though.

[@thelizardking3807]

You can comment on some of his early or first videos and he’ll still respond

[@thephranc]

Just looked at the sub count... holy crap! Ive been watching since below 100k.

[@ProjectFarm]

Well I appreciate you all commenting too!

[@jamescarruthers3593]

If I had to pick only 1 channel to keep on KZbin, it would be yours ! It’s always fun, interesting and useful! Thank you Project Farm!!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Wow, thanks!

[@pokermongoes1447]

My old favorite # 2 Phillips just wasn't holding and it was not a good anymore. I checked your video and bought a PB Swiss. I love it. Thank you. I also joined the channel, I figured I would never miss $2 a month and I do love your work.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@therealdojj]

"we're gonna test which screwdriver has the best dance moves" best description for a test ever!!!!!

[@PilotDamian]

😂😂👌

[@danboom101]

Wera and Wiha are my absolute favorites for screwdrivers. Nice to see them perform quite well on the wear tests especially. I've had a single Wera set and a single insulated Wiha set for years without having to replace any despite some pretty hard use. The Wera handle is probably the most comfortable I've ever used though, despite its lower price compared to Wiha

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@BigManko]

The PB Swiss will be the last set you buy. The warranty is pretty amazing, replacing every part no questions asked. Thats also why every driver has a serial number. I am very happy with my miniature set from PB Swiss.

[@gregmercil3968]

I can very much believe this. I have one PB Swiss screwdriver that I found in my old job’s lost and found bin, that sat there for months that nobody claimed. It’s a #3 Phillips with the clear reddish orange acetate handle, though in the “classic” style I think it’s called. I’ve used it quite a few times and love it. Seems to be perfectly designed in every way possible.

[@banehogs5589]

I had never heard of em till watching this. Mainly use klein hand screwdrivers and nut drivers, have a cheap set of milwaukee 1000v insulated screwdrivers (industrial electrician here) and i use knipex cobra channel locks as well as regular blue channel lock brand channies. Im definitely checking out pb swiss after this

[@RaggedsEdge]

Both Felo and Wera offer a version of striking capable screwdrivers. I have both and have put the felo through the paces with good results. After about a year using it as a large flat head, chisel and pry bar, it’s got some wear to the tips edges.

[@musicauthority7828]

@@banehogs5589 I have a Klein flat head screwdriver and I'm sorry to say that it's garbage. and I have a Stanley screwdriver and crescent wrench and they are both garbage. my suggestion to Stanley is stick to making hammers and saws.

[@Darthtard9]

@@musicauthority7828 So since you have one screw driver that makes you a tool authority? I bet you listened to music once, and that also makes you the music authority, correct?

[@SteveLum]

I love how detailed you are. You leave no stone unturned

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@DavidDarrow]

Of the multiple brands I have laying around, I've found that I will most commonly reach for the Wera over any other. There is just something about the grip, plus the etching on the tip seems to make a noticeable difference.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@cowboy41231]

I concur

[@nickshepherd1935]

I've used the green handled set for years and got some of the hammer through versions (yellow handle) more recently, they are superb.

[@gribly]

One of the common issues with screwdrivers camming out and stripping is that most people are unaware that not all screws that look like Philips are intended to be the same. If there is a little dot in one corner of the screw head it’s an indication that it’s a Japanese Industrial Standard screw. These are a slightly different shape than Philips. Philips screws are designed to cam out because their application is for carpentry or other single uses. You would rather have the driver slip out before the head breaks off as the screw head gets flush or deeper into wood. JIS screws are designed to not cam out. They are for mechanical applications, where they might be removed and reinstalled on a regular basis for maintenance and repair. You don’t want to mix and match head types, but JIS drivers work okay on Philips screws where Philips drivers will fail miserably on JIS screws, especially with removing machine threads that have thread lock on them. This is why so many people have gone to work on a Japanese toy, appliance or a motorcycle only to find all the screw heads strip.

[@adollarshort1573]

Yes, and besides what you have pointed out, have to think test results could be different if a different brand of screws were used. We have no idea how accurately the fastener companies form their screws. Even a slight deviation could change the outcome of this test. But great test! Thanks once again Project Farm!!!

[@JUNEBUGLLC]

@@adollarshort1573 good thinking that is a controlled variable!

[@electric_boogaloo496]

Reject Philips embrace Torx. I exclusively use Torx wood screws for any application that requires the screws to hold more than a couple pounds of load. Every box of torx screws comes with a bit that conveniently fits in my impact driver.

[@transformer889]

I always wondered if there is a metric screwdriver because I noticed some screwdrivers fit the Chinese products like a glove and some don't, thank you for the tip.

[@JoeZelensky]

Whether it is Phillips or JIS they are both garbage designs. Robertson is the best by far.

[@Komainu959]

I actually have Wera screwdrivers and really like how their handles feel in the hand. Hard to test ergonomics but it's a big plus for at least my hands. Glad to see they also performed well for their price point.

[@calculator1841]

I got the Wera bit when he tested months back. Now I know their screwdrivers are worth it.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Hazet screwdrivers are really good too.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@OscarOliu]

My wera hex drivers are amazing, even abusing them they keep on working without issue.

[@Cbych]

from ergonomics pb swiss tools > wiha > haupa (not included in video) fact: precission screwdrivers are good point of view what is good

[@sauercrowder]

Wera tools are seriously amazing. We have sets of their stuff at work and both their screwdrivers and hex wrenches just seem to be the only ones I've ever used that actually fit properly into fasteners. You can feel the difference immediately. I've also never seen any wear or damage on any of our stuff, mostly it just walked away.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@johnmckee2266]

I’ve had my craftsman screwdriver set for over 40 years and they’re still going strong. That was when they were made in the United States!

[@eric_in_florida]

Yep!

[@smmmokin]

Sad thing is even great product makers don't build anything as good as they could.

[@googleusergp]

Correct, and 40 years ago they were hot forged and marked "Forged" on them. You always knew you could return one at a Sears as they were everywhere. Fortunately, that wasn't a too often situation for many.

[@neoasura]

@@googleusergp Yep, I still have all my old craftsman screwdrivers from Sears, funny I lived a block away from them too, and never had to return a broke tool ever. Sometimes I wish I did though so I would have an excuse to go lol

[@googleusergp]

@@neoasura I lived about 3 miles from one and my uncle's neighbor managed it since it opened in 1973. It closed in 2019, and I bought a dishwasher there (a WLP made Kenmore) which replaced another WLP Kenmore that was bough there in 1987. I would have kept the 1987 one going but it needed a tub and wasn't worth it. I repaired that machine about 4 times in 32 years and all the time they were minor repairs many years apart. Both were made by WLP in Findlay, OH, which is still where WLP makes dishwashers today. I bought plenty of items over the years as did my parents, uncles and grandparents. I went with my grandparents to this very store in 1975 to buy their Kenmore (Whirlpool made) washer and dryer. They only needed repair one time, when I was in my 30s and I repaired both of them in an hour for under $70 in parts. I sold the dryer in 2013 for what my grandparents probably paid for it and it was working like new. Even the "end of cycle" buzzer still worked. Recently, the neighbor that managed that Sears gave me a snow blower he got there in 2006, well after he retired in 1993. I relayed to him about the 1975 story and he was shocked that I remembered something like that.

[@pvd4530]

I’ve had Wera screwdrivers for a decade and I’ve always thought they were the best value for money. Many in my trade were using WIHA which costs twice as much. I still use my Wera set to this day. The handle is very ergonomic and easy to grip to allow you to screw with better force. Underrated and good value. Happy to see my experience is backed up by testing. Keep up the good work! Your videos are helping many of us in deciding which brands to buy and saving us both money and time.

[@siggitiggi]

I have a Wera Kompakt VDE set, while it's great I have to admit I prefer WIHA's TORQUEVARIO VDE, but I could buy 3 Wera sets for one of those.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks, will do! Thanks for sharing.

[@pvd4530]

@@siggitiggi as the tests conclude WERA may not be the best, but definitely best value to performance.

[@MrThatguyuknow]

Straight down to business each time with practical tests, and dynamic data comparisons. You're the gold standard as far as im concerned. Thanks for doing the good work for all us craftsman.

[@jerrykimgomez6336]

Your channel is one of the most important channels in the world. FYI!!! Love your content.

[@ProjectFarm]

Wow, thank you!

[@Semajal]

Been a huge fan of Wera for a while, this nicely helps confirm it's been a good decision :D They also do some fantastic tool Advent calendars!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@aidan-8100]

As am I. However I would also be interested in the “impact rated” screwdrivers with the metal end caps etc. i have them from wera personally and I’ve never had one let me down to date.

[@JG-dl5fp]

Ich glaube Adventskalender kennen die Amis garnicht

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

I had a Wera advent calendar last year, it was awesome!

[@calebdean2440]

Wera makes a screwdriver line designed to be struck by a hammer and I absolutely love them.

[@intox69]

I hold your videos in such high regard when I'm looking for a new tool I always come back to your channel to see if you've tested it. Your work in these videos is very much appreciated, I just wanted you to know that.

[@ProjectFarm]

I appreciate that! Thanks so much!

[@catfishbilly7425]

"Don't get cocky Milwaukee" OMG I nearly died.

[@jeremyc74]

The Weras with the laser cut tip are absolutely the best for electrical work where you're dealing with soft screws in terminal blocks. That's all I use in my panel shop. The laser cuts don't hold up for heavy duty stuff though, so I keep a set of Craftsmans around for that stuff. The right tool for the job!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@bhess1212]

"Americans like to use hammers on their screwdrivers" Yes but said hammer is probably an adjustable wrench! LMAO

[@themeez1000]

I feel personally attacked by this. Lol

[@mrjeh49]

And holding it with pliers.. ha!

[@Wiredlightning1]

I think you mean "Adjustable Hammer"

[@skyemac8]

Nah, electricians pliers are a ‘hammer’.

[@DorriWilliams]

Crescent Hammer

[@mramseyISU]

I’d love to see a similar test on Allen keys or hex sockets. Maybe see if those Mac RBRT sockets and Allen wrenches are as amazing as they claim.

[@JoeC92]

I've been impressed with the jet set I have for what I paid off Amazon. But my apprentice on the last job had wera and damn those are nice. But most of my use with Allen heads is on a torque wrench so hard to invest in that price tag

[@802Garage]

Almost everything Mac except their tool boxes is marked up rebrands from what I hear.

[@mramseyISU]

@@802Garage news flash every tool truck has rebranded tools on it. That’s got nothing to do with if the tool in question is any good or not.

[@pillcosby3949]

You need some Bondhus Allen keys

[@mramseyISU]

@John I’m already using Wiha Allen keys but I’m looking for some Allen sockets and want some data like this video on how comparable the good German made ones are to the rbrt stuff.

[@paulmcdonald9592]

So refreshing to have honest, well thought out and understandable measures in product comparison. Across all comparisons. Thanks Project Farm.

[@AndrewSmith-km6zb]

Dang man, no snap on! Your my favorite reviewer because you're not a tool truck fan boy. Thank you.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@Washman-jw3hl]

I love all the testing you perform on here. Although the testing can vary you always do a great job addressing the difference and you give an educated assessment on everything. You seriously are the best product comparison channel on KZbin

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@parochial2356]

Todd: I continue to be impressed by your simple, relatively inexpensive test methods that essentially duplicate real life use. The skeptical can easily copy your and verify your testing without a UL / ASTM grade facility. As far as the dance moves; Harbor Freight says: "can't touch this" :). Please continue your excellent, informative and unique work.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks, will do!

[@RichardBronosky]

"We're gonna test that!" is my favorite expression. I love your content.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@MD-md4th]

It’s nice to see Craftsman is still good quality. I have a set that looks just like these, bought in 1998.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@hoovercamaro]

Craftsmans made in china now

[@ImSrry4BeingWhite]

Joe Biden needs to make craftsman tools great again

[@hoovercamaro]

@@ImSrry4BeingWhite 😂😂 the US government cant afford to buy it back from China

[@wesstallard8919]

Curious to see how the older USA tools would hold up vs. the newer Asian set

[@tasteapiana]

I've seen many of your videos but this one stands apart from the others and shows that you are making top notch content. I think, among the best KZbin channels, yours definitely qualifies to be considered professional. You have a defined plot, you narrate clearly and cohesively, the footage is well defined and accurate, well lit and engaging and no time at all is wasted on out of context or side note babble, every second is engaging and visually stimulating, at no time am I left without the ''entertainment'' feeling. Very well done. Any cable channel, Netflix, etc would do well to contract you for a series.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@trilexi]

PB Swiss tool is our standard tools at school, we each reveived a whole kit for free . (Yes I live in Switzerland as well)

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@alexfrancis1995]

@@frenchonion4595 on the contrary, the Swiss are more than happy to get into business with anyone 😅

[@trevorgehman]

Just want to say that these kinds of comparisons are really awesome. I think with the decline in quality across most products these days, it's nice to identify and reward those companies that still put out quality products. Thanks for doing this!!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@d.k.1394]

Well said

[@colinfitzgerald4332]

Just purchased the Wera 6 pc set because of this review and viewer comments. Very much appreciate your comparisons.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@stewartxp2400]

Dude, what an absolute champion this guy is! I happened to suggest this comparison barely a month ago, so you can imagine my delight when I saw this video posted after returning from a road trip.. couldn't wait to watch! He did all the right tests (and in a clever way such as the impact driver), and with all the best brands! SINCERE THANKS!!!!

[@cactiguide]

I actually called his mom and that’s why he did this test

[@djsi38t]

Hundreds of people suggested screwdrivers.

[@martialme84]

Wera is so good. Been using their tools for years. Have a Wera ratcheting screwdriver with 6 bits in the handle on me pretty much every day of the week. Would not recommend to beat on that one with a hammer, to be fair...

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@CoffeeConsumer643]

same feelings ive got the VDE ones with the belt pouch and love it

[@robibautista3806]

thats what demolition screwdrivers are for lol

[@anakin_dragon]

Since that was comparing apples to oranges, Wera also has a version with a striking cap (called "Schraubmeißel" meaning screw driving chisel). And those obviously don't move when hammering. I once used them out in the field to chisel down an aluminium weld flush - completely undamaged. Only strike marks on the caps remain as proof.

[@Godfather_of_the_Oath]

I looked them up. They look comparable to the Gray Tools Canada hammer capped screwdrivers. I use them as a chisel as often as a driver... Reforms stripped Phillips heads by punching the X shape back into the head. I'd love to see these two put up against the top 3 of this vidjeo.

[@anakin_dragon]

@@chrismmmhmm2337 I'd love to, but unfortunately I don't have the equipment necessary. Besides, imitating a master like him would be really lame and I lack the imagination to come up with my own tests.

[@hardtymz2517]

Harbor Freight Doyle brand demolition drivers are amazing

[@jamesstephenson2346]

@@rickywinthrop would have been better if it didnt break, id think

[@frits4ever]

Makes me smile every time hearing you say ''''. WE'RE GONNA TEST THAT ! '''' you know by now that something harsh is coming soon ... You are the best, thanks.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@Cthooligan]

Torque wrenches next? Curious how accurate these brands are.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@HanSolo__]

Solid idea!

[@susankay7606]

Yes! Click vs digital too!

[@KubuśpuchatekTVN]

@@susankay7606 Yes! Would love to watch which stays more precise for longer time

[@BilgemasterBill]

Indeed. And if possible please do Harbor Freight's cheapo Pittsburgh Pro AND their pricier Icon and "prosumer" Quinn models. I'm just curious if spending 10 times the money gets one ten times the accurate tightness. Reviews I've already seen out there of the Pittsburgh ones, some after long-term use, lead me to believe that unless you're torquing down those heat shields for the next Mars mission at NASA, those "economy" ones might be just fine for getting some head bolts balanced well enough. But then I used to use an old brass fishing or luggage scale with a combination wrench and just do the math. So, I'm not what you might call "ultra-picky".

[@coladyret1]

Thank you for including Wera. They do make a model, that has the metal pass all the way thru the handle. That model is designed to be hammered ;-)

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.

[@k7j007]

Klein has those as well. I bought a set around 2 years ago and the flat head quickly became one of my favorite and most used/abused hand tools

[@gizzyguzzi]

Thanks for that, handy. Since I get hammered on occasion.

[@alrun1836]

I have wiha, wera, klein, milwaukee, and craftsman screwdrivers. I will say that handle on the wera makes a huge difference. Super comfortable

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@CommodoreGreg]

More comfortable than the Klein? I love my Kleins. I also have some Craftsmans that are just like the Kleins.

[@alrun1836]

@@CommodoreGreg personally I think so I have and insulated set and they're even nice to use with class 1 gloves. Plus I experience very little hand cramping after long use.

[@campomambo]

I have to use my screwdrivers in tight to use spaces. I have found the Kleins are the best I’ve tried for tight fits. I like my Milwaukee screwdrivers, but they are too bulky for the tight squeezes.

[@billneedham3687]

I have been using my same set of Klein tools that I started as an electrician in 1980. They still work fine. I don't abuse my tools and use them for what they are designed for.

[@ProjectFarm]

Nice!

[@rickieodem488]

Always amazed at the innovative testing methods you come up with! I weep for the Craftsman brand, I have my Dad's set of tools that he bought in the '70s and they are solid as rocks.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Nice. Thanks for sharing.

[@nathanielaustin-powell1753]

Another thing that would be useful to test is how well these screwdrivers perform out in the sun on a hot day. I’ve found through personal experience that with some brands of nut drivers (such as Jonard) the plastic handle becomes so soft on a hot day that the shaft just rotates inside the plastic handle, where as with other brands (such as Klein) this is not an issue. This is a big deal for me since I work outside and I use these tools every day. The two most important things to me when selecting a screwdriver or nut driver is how good is the grip (ergonomics) and how good is the plastic it’s made of. Just a thought, maybe for a future video.

[@texasfossilguy]

good point. Thermal resistance

[@RicardoCristofRemmertFontes]

Felo has awesome oldschool wood handle screwdrivers. You can wrench and hammer them (they have a steel/leather striking cap). They come in flat, PH and PZ. Whenever I have to restore old turn of the century furniture with slotted screws from back then, I use either the Wera laser tip or, with delicate but rusted screws, the oldschool Felo. They last decades.

[@Esuper1]

I never leave tools just out in the sun. If I am to use them all day they either go into a belt holder or a tool box.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@mattb9664]

Tests and shows results on exactly what I wanted to know about- the strength and resiliency of the material at the tip of the screwdriver. Looks like it's possible buy a $50-$100 'last set' of screwdrivers that will never need replacement for prosumer use.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@KnJ0715]

bought my wera set 7 years ago, and they are one of the best purchases I have made. This video was fun to watch, it was just me rooting for my past self to have made a good choice.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

[@freetolook3727]

Years ago I had a flat bladed Craftsman screwdriver that I used for just about everything except a screwdriver. It was bought in the early 1970's when they were made in USA and made of pretty good steel. I used it for a pry bar, chisel, hammer, and knife. It was getting pretty worn so sometime in the 1990's, I took advantage of the lifetime warranty to get a new one. No problem. But the problem was the very first time that I went to use it on a stove bolt, the very thing it was designed to work on, it broke. Not only broke but the tip shattered. Got a new, new one but wish I had kept the old one and just regrinded the tip to fix it!

[@fuzzyharmonica]

You might look into the Wera Chisel Drivers to get a similar experience to your original Craftsman

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@youtube.youtube.01]

The results variation was amazing! I always knew how wobbly a person's wrist operated a screwdriver and contributed to the wear. I also knew how wobbly a drill-driver became under a pistol-grip as the driver was applying maximum torque. It seemed like ergonomics made greater challenges for the tool operator, but you proved that to be false. Good Job!

[@chandell9545]

A video testing carpet/upholstery cleaners would be so handy. What cleaner would do the best job cleaning the Farmabago?

[@Jawsjawsjawsrg]

I messaged him about vacuum cleaners about a year or 2 back. I thought it was a good idea.

[@SockyNoob]

Folex does wonders for carpet stains

[@chandell9545]

@@SockyNoob I’m talking about like a carpet cleaning machine. I’ve got some RV and Vehicle cleaning needs.

[@bobbyd9319]

Reason could be.....that this is mostly a guys video, for guys. So it’s mostly tools. Let the guys have something interesting.

[@chandell9545]

@@bobbyd9319 Cuz no guy has ever needed to shampoo the interior of their car before? Ever?

[@lilforkk9656]

I honestly don’t comment enough in this mans videos! He’s an incredibly valuable resource to do many people in so many different trades that rely on these tools daily to make a living and even guys like me who are just backyard tinkering. Really makes you think twice before buying anything now.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@PrimitiveBeasty]

Would love to see PB Swiss included in any future tests they offer products for. I have a set of their hex wrenches, love them and would be real interested to see how they compare.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@jujulamalice898]

👍

[@stevenvictx]

"Can survive a nuclear blast!" " We're going to test that!"

[@c182SkylaneRG]

Hahahaha!!! :D

[@emersonfrench5824]

🤣

[@jek__]

Does mild sunlight exposure count as surviving a nuclear blast?

[@BL-yj2wp]

Is there a law prohibiting that in the US? I know that here in Germany there is a law against "causing a nuclear explosion" specifically as long as you endanger others or their property (though if you don't it's fine apparently).

[@c182SkylaneRG]

@@BL-yj2wp I mean, there are international treaties that require informing nuclear regulatory agencies, environmental protection agencies, and various militaries, before each and every nuclear blast, and it doesn't matter where on the planet you test: they have monitoring equipment that will triangulate it within a few hours. As for any local laws or regulations? I'm not sure anyone ever found it necessary...

[@fmsracing442]

Given that these are "hand tools" and if used as such, the most important test was the first one, for durability and the cam-out test. So I give Craftsman and Milwaukee top marks for the price. IMO, the other tests are only relevant if you're going to use/ abuse the tool from some purpose it was not intended or you're Superman. Love this channel!!!

[@billfromnxtdoor5575]

" if you're going to use/ abuse the tool from some purpose it was not intended" Yes

[@neoasura]

Absolutely, I still have my same Craftsman screwdrivers for about 30 years now, and they are still in great shape. Then again, I'm not hammering and chiseling anything either, I have a chisel set for that.

[@edwardmonsariste4050]

I’ve gone through so many brands, some great and some just so so. My first grab screwdriver is still my Western Forge Craftsman Made In The USA screwdrivers.

[@alanj7306]

I’ve had the same set of Craftsman screwdrivers for about 15 years. It’s a 22 piece set that I got on sale for $20. That was about the best $20 I ever spent. They show some minor wear, but still work great 👍. They’ve been used hard, but never torcher tested though. Never buy hand tools from Harbor Freight, they’re garbage. You’ll spend a lot of time and gas money to keep replacing them. That Lifetime warranty is meaningless... keep your receipt haha 😂.

[@JThyroid]

Just about every electrician has a large slot blade screwdriver that they use as a pry bay, punch, and chisel. They use their linesman pliers as a hammer. A better test would have been to actually hit the screwdriver to see if it's too soft, or too brittle. I used to think that you should only use a tool for what it's meant for, but it's so much easier to carry half as many tools when you use everything as a hammer.

[@marktarter5738]

I would not be surprised if Consumer Reports just offers to buy you out. Thanks for doing these great videos!

[@mattbarnett6902]

I'm loving the dance moves competition! We love your videos for the well-designed tests that match perfectly the usees of the tools, but the comedy aspect is very much appreciated. Feel free to give us more!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@mattbarnett6902]

@@ProjectFarm I seriously have been binging all your content. A funny aside, I don't work in or near the trades. I ride a desk as a financial advisor. But I will pick up a wrench when I want to fix something for any of my family or tackle a project for myself. When I do, I like having a quality tool available, and your content is where I get my product suggestions. I always get a laugh out of looking at the lineup and guessing which will be top pick before watching the video and getting surprised when Dewalt gets its butt handed to it by a no-name who claimed superior durability (we're gonna test that). I watched the safety glasses review and actually snorted coffee with the mechanical head banging dummy test. Keep them coming!

[@gerrylundergaard60]

Great testing again Todd. Further proving a lesson that I learned long ago about how Buy American is not always a sure thing. We can all be grateful for Iowa born Dr. Deming. Who went overseas after this country foolishly slammed the door in his face. This truth is not taught in our schools of course. Keep up the great testing!

[@PetrosArgy]

Awesome test! I've been using Wiha insulated screwdrivers for years and although that series uses forged tips instead of the machined ones in your set, the results are very similar. They are amazingly tough tools!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

[@Yerevan1964]

I have watched many of your reviews. You are doing great work. Thanks for your service. I appreciate it.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@Foxinthetree]

Putting them into drills was a great idea. Love the video, very informative.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@Squatch-sj3vg]

Always been a Klein man myself, can't wait to see the results!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@BradiKal61]

Klein is going the way of Craftsman . Still some thing made in US but lots of products made in China

[@1804unclesam]

@@BradiKal61 I know, and a union electrician, it’s makes me sad and angry.

[@Makitafan]

Me too (as an electrician) after watching this I think I might get some Wiha's.

[@mrallan8063]

I have several of these drivers. My thoughts... if you are installing something where you don't want to drop a screw, use Wera for their laser tips. For Made in Japan products, use Vessel for JIS. For everyday use, Wiha is good (lifetime warranty). For basic, or don't care tools, use Craftsman. I have a set of wood handle Felos, but don't use them much.

[@TKettle]

Yeah I have a Vessel set because I'm always working on Japanese stuff, and JIS drivers even work better on Philips screws. That said, I have to wonder when these tests are so extreme they don't really apply to most people. My Vessel set is "thru-tang" for hammering and I'm sure it would have crushed that contest. The flathead cam-out test seemed so variable due to the different blades. He could have just made a set gap, so that each driver is inserted to the same thickness. 🤷

[@ih302]

Yep, Vessel Impacta gets my vote.

[@turtlos]

Yeah those Wera lasertips are amazing. Even the whole screwdriver will stay in the horizontal screwed in screw, not that it matters but it shows how well the laser tip works.

[@carlmccoy662]

You are totally spot on with your evaluation. I have all of the above and my experience is identical.

[@fialee8]

I have a set of Witte that came with a Knipex VDE kit. While they are made in Germany, I don't use them too often. Any thoughts on that brand?

[@fatboyrowing]

I’m feeding the algorithm…. These videos are extremely well done. Kudos man, kudos.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@Vmaxfodder]

The best fitting screwdriver I ever owned was Kobalt by Lowe's. It seems to fit every screw I use it on, and it was very long lasting! 12 years and still going strong !

[@ProjectFarm]

Nice!

[@chipcook6646]

Used to be made in the USA

[@JETZcorp]

Before watching, I'm cheering for the Vessel. It's the only "Phillips" screwdriver I've ever used that isn't absolutely hateful. The big winner for me is that I have 3 vintage Kawasaki's, and anything but a Vessel will butcher those very soft JIS heads.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@MRMETZGAR1962]

You do realize JIS is not the same as a Phillips.

[@JETZcorp]

@@MRMETZGAR1962 I am palpably aware of that. Vessel are JIS. A JIS driver works very well in a Phillips fastener. A Phillips driver will ruin a JIS fastener.

[@Whateva67]

I bought a set of Vessels to work on my 75 Honda ct70 and my Honda cars,it’s crazy how much better they are,no cramming out at all. Well worth the money.

[@falco621]

The only thing this video is missing is Husky, though I can probably guess where they would fall. This was extremely informative, and well done. I appreciate the lengths you go to attempt to equalize all of your experiments, to make it as apples to apples as possible.

[@keyan8585]

And master craft!

[@twistsnakeanklesvids261]

@John Husky screwdrivers also seem to be available on Amazon.

[@keyan8585]

@John he’s not sponsored by anyone, they aren’t affiliate links.

[@aznnp77]

Yeah maybe if it was a socket set or something. You'd have to do Craftsman, Kobalt, Husky, and Pittsburgh by default because those are the chain stores house brands.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much! Thanks for the suggestion for future round of testing.

[@jaysantos514]

congrats on the success of your channel, you deserve it!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you so much!!

[@davestaggers2981]

Love the affordable, practical, and pretty scientific tests you come up with.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@tonyennis1787]

I have the Craftsman set that is shown in this video. I enjoy using them. Mine were made at least 30 years ago and are still doing fine.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@chipcook6646]

Yes they were made in the USA

[@GH-oi2jf]

I prefer a mix of screwdrivers selected individually, but if I wanted a set of matching screwdrivers covering a range of sizes I would get the Vacos. I have a couple and will probably get some more. Vaco is now a division of Klein. I give Klein credit for keeping these great US tools alive.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@jelt110]

Wiha, Wera, Knipex, Milwaukee all have lasted very well and perform excellent in real world. Love your test methodologies, VERY practical and repeatable.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

[@andycopeland7051]

"We're gonna test that." Man I love this channel. Keep it up man

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks, will do!

[@andythompson3528]

I just bought the same craftsman screwdriver set used in the video, and it seems like a really good value. Haven’t really used them yet but it was the only set tested in the video that had a magnetizer/demagnetizer. Definitely a neat thing to have on hand for screwdrivers or even drill bits.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@ryanmorman7253]

I'm like a little kid on Christmas when your new vids drop brother! 😁 Excellent work! And thank you for doing all of this!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing!

[@patricknicholson5556]

I cannot imagine another testing site that is more thorough and comprehensive no matter what's being tested. Thank you for the amount of thought and work you put into each of your videos.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@josephrabant7432]

i have never sought out one of your videos but often end up here. i was given a new set of those Klein screwdrivers, i was extremely excited but after using them and trying very hard to be bias towards them i have to say i personally feel my craftsman screwdrivers are still better. maybe not grip or comfort but as far as phillip head slippage or downward force needed. new subscriber, ty for all your tool&product reviews

[@stephenrickstrew7237]

I have been waiting all week to hear the words “ We’re Gonna Test That “ thanks for keeping us involved and testing an item that we all use everyday…. and thanks for making it so fun to watch…have you had any luck with dowser rods finding water lines … or does just some 12 gauge copper wire work well enough …?

[@Tre3141]

No need for copper wire, all you need is some coat hangers and to know someone with a $20,000 ground penetrating radar, bend the coat hangars into L's and use them to pick the garage locks to borrow the radar.

[@NewBeginningNewCreation]

Love hearing those words

[@musicauthority7828]

Water witching is a farse, Richard Dawkins went this place where they were conducting a test. using containers as a placebo and containers with water and the test was a total fail.

[@NewBeginningNewCreation]

@@musicauthority7828 ok, no one needed to hear that but ok......

[@BigBrotherIsTooBig]

@@musicauthority7828 its not a farce. I called the utility marking for my state before I dug for a project. Two guys came out and I was home when they came. I greeted them and proceeded to watch him with just a piece of steel wire bent into an L shape, he used the marking flags. He located the the main line running along the street through my yard and he located the branch that ran to my house. He then used more sophisticated equipment to confirm. Then he flicked his wrist, throwing the flags into the ground to mark the lines. I was amazed, I thought it was crap too. He told me it really only works with moving water.

[@RRebo]

Long time listener, first time caller.... I'd love to see a comparison of water repellant. Spray on and brush on. You could try it on different materials and see how they hold up against different amounts of exposure to rain. I would imagine spraying both sides of a piece of material and then weighing each piece of material before and after exposure to water would give a good indication of hydrophobic properties of each of the brands. I could come up with some other ideas for testing if you're interested...

[@brianmack6285]

Dance moves FTW !!! Always informative, usually amusing ... how you continue to do it is beyond me. My goto channel when I want to know if something is good or crap.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@ant_yep]

"When It's hammer time we'll see which screwdriver has the best dance moves" Good one. You actually made me laugh 👍

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!

[@elesjuan]

@@ProjectFarm The ridiculous antics you sneak into your videos is the icing on the cake of your testing. It's rare that I don't end up laughing aloud to at least one thing in these vids. Thanks for doing what you do.

[@CorvetteTrev]

One thing almost no one talks about is the weight balance. If you're working down in an engine bay, almost all of these brands would nose dive, falling forward and costing you a bunch of time possibly digging it out, with the exception of the Whia Brand, you should try this if you still have one. They sit on your hand so nicely, it's almost hard to let it fall forward, just one thing to consider as I've been playing with a few of these sets 🎉thanks for all your work!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@tylerexperience8704]

Really enjoying these tools testing videos!

[@ProjectFarm]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@tylerexperience8704]

@@ProjectFarm you are very welcome sir!

[@TernaryHound]

Did not expect a dance off from this channel. Kudos, really enjoyed it.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@sphillips6357]

Back in the 70's when I began repairing equipment (and an occasional car or truck) I bought a set of Xcelite screwdrivers. I used them daily full-time for 30 years and I still have two - a phillips and a flat head. They were the absolute best screwdrivers ever. I hammered on them, used a vice grips on them for more leverage, etc. and they still grip the phillips head screw better than some screwdrivers do when new. I don't know if they still make them or make them in the USA but if you come across an old set in a yard sale - get 'em!

[@NONO-hz4vo]

I have a few and can back up your experience. They are surprisingly durable.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@elonmust7470]

I havr a bunch of old ones that I bought off of ebay. They look well used but all of the bits are jn great shape.

[@IggyWon]

My go-to drivers have been Vessel's with JIS heads. Super useful when you get that random JIS fastener that would normally get stripped out with a regular Phillips bit.

[@nasonguy]

Fixing up a Japanese motorcycle taught me the hard way about JIS fasteners, haha.

[@robertpoche1585]

The JIS Vessel screwdrivers are a must for working on Japanese motorcycles!

[@thejetskiguy]

Best screwdriver I ever bought 👍😎

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@davemiller262]

Got a free 1972 cb175 I’m wrenching on. First thing I bought was a full set of JIS impact bits

[@mikeking7470]

I would love to see this test applied to an old "Made in USA" set of Craftsman screwdrivers vs. the new "Made in Taiwan" set. I also have an old set of Vermont American "the Claw" drivers.

[@notelling8240]

Agreed... because the Craftsman Screwdrivers I have from the early 90's are absolute junk. You couldn't give me a set of those again even after seeing this video. Napa and Snap-On from here out that is it.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

@@notelling8240 I got tired of the Craftsman crap too. Replaced most of it with Snap On.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@elonmust7470]

Old craftsman is 100x better than new craftsman. Try using their new stuff like the old & you get trash in 30 seconds. SK is the way to go.

[@elonmust7470]

gearwrench is good, too. Snapon? rofl