Best Second Hand Off Roaders | Fifth Gear

[@Anti-socialSocialClub]

How do you compare a 2003 Range Rover a 2004 land cruiser and a 2016 toureg?

[@bighes100]

Stupid innit, at least compare a similar age

[@shroomyesc]

Because they're comparing by price, not age

[@bighes100]

Yeah it's double the price so that's as bad

[@shroomyesc]

@@bighes100 Have you never watched Fifth Gear? They always compare a cheap one, a medium priced one and an expensive one.

[@bighes100]

@@shroomyesc The first 2 are about the same so what's your argument?

[@mattrussell250]

I had a 2013 Touareg R-Line. Best car I've ever owned. Maybe not the most exciting, but it does everything so well!

[@electrikoptik]

What a joke. Your Touareg is known for being high maintenance and not reliable. Also it doesn’t even have a proper 4WD system with low range 😂.

[@jackshotton9222]

Our 2010 TDV8 Range Rover has been amazing and nothing has gone wrong with it. It’s a fab car and wouldn’t change it for the world.

[@asadkhan-qm1my]

Reliability and Range r Rover don't ho hand in hand

[@nahidrahman]

3:45 shot pans across the back of the Touareg TDI, 3:54 the 3.6 V6 was a petrol engine btw, but showing the TDI. 4:23 back to diesel...

[@alanhillyard1639]

Soo.. she made one mistake, saying 3.6 instead of 3.0. Righto

[@Eidrian111]

I bought in 2015 a new Touareg Hybrid and it was the best choice I’ve made. It haven’t gone wrong once an at the moment has 150k kilometres on the clock.

[@kramsenoj1]

I had a 2008 v6 this Touareg from new it was fabulously built and apart from the prop shift (which failed at 60k miles) was always trouble free and a pleasure to own and drive.

[@nergispaul9022]

Friends don't let friends buy old Range Rovers or VWs.

[@MC-nb6jx]

Nergis Paul ... Never had any VW let me down👍🏻👍🏻😁😁 LR, RR, BMW on the other hand, all piles of 💩💩

[@basithph8958]

Michael C not all BMW

[@MC-nb6jx]

BASITH PH ..... Not all RR, LR, BM, etc obviously.. But the ones I had awful, with even worse dealer backup.. Audi, VW on the other hand have been superb😁

[@Flying_GC]

@@MC-nb6jx you're living in la la land if you think just because your VW hasn't failed spectacularly...yet, that they are 'superb'. They are absolutely no better than the other vehicles you listed, and have so many complex issues from electrical to the entire driveline, interiors falling apart, I'd be here all day listing the very well documented problems with VAG cars in particular the Toureg. I used to be a dealer selling these turds and also am a qualified mechanic. Congrats on buying one that hasnt bankrupted you yet. Yet...

[@MC-nb6jx]

oldpilot nz .... Dont be a dope, it won’t bankrupt me at all.. Have you never heard of warranty??🤣🤣 The last brand new Discovery we had started going wrong from 1 month old & we chopped it back in after 16 months of issues. In the previous 15 years I or so my business had 5 LR or RR vehicles all spent more time in the garage than on the road. Thank goodness for that thing you’ve never heard of “warranty”🤣🤣 The 2 Touareg’s we’ve currently got (both Mk 3’s 1 private 1 business) haven’t missed a beat & the Mk 2 my wife had for 4 1/2 years had nothing more than services.. Another Mk 2 in my company (2 year old) has also not missed a beat, while going through quarries, many miles on road & off road.. You want to chat shite crack on, I’m talking from personal ownership, Oh & I served my time as a mechanic 😉😉

[@damiantrifan5032]

Where do you found a Touareg 2016 r line for £12 k ???

[@OverlandSite]

Great clip but it doesn't really mention the off-road capabilities of each vehicle, talks a lot more about how they handle corners, where that's not too relevant for these type of vehicles. Also, Vicky mentions the snorkel at 3:07 and refers to its function that makes the truck go through deeper rivers and such, however, the main purpose of a snorkel is to provide cleaner and cooler air for the engine, especially in convoys.

[@andrewsDoc938]

You can easily remove the Range from the list. Def the best off/on road machine, but undoubtedly the least reliable

[@scouser1733]

Better than a land cruiser off road a dont think so u need ur head testing range rover best of road my ass

[@ckm-mkc]

@@scouser1733 Maybe the best off-road, but it's highly likely you'll never make it back to any road....

[@scouser1733]

Few of my friends all have land rovers I got a 80 series land cruiser it pissed all over them I had to pull a 90 up a hill with me because it just wouldn't get up av had land rovers myself ther not the best off road not a chance

[@rscosworthfan]

@@scouser1733 as much as i love the landcruiser i think its the best of the bunch, it cannot cope offroad like the range rover can well assuming it doesnt break down that is

[@ic31and7]

R.I.P John Haynes what an amazing business he created

[@yashveenhurry997]

VW 3.6 v6 but video is a 3.0 V6 TDI!!! Duuuuude!!!! You had one job!

[@pfacka]

same with the RR, It's later face-lift model with jag 5.0. not BMW 4.4

[@jackshotton9222]

@@pfacka No it is not. Look at the inside, it’s a prefacelift model. It’s owned by a gentleman named Matt, who added the facelift kit to improve the looks. The 5.0SC’s cost a lot more than £5k and have more modern technology.

[@AIDANPEREIRA]

On the used VW and range rover you get built-in always on RGB lighting.

[@thatsjustme1990]

Where can you get a 2016 Touareg for 12k??

[@MASO204]

Nowhere they are at-least 19k

[@TheJohnlyh]

Just buy the dammn land cruiser it will outlast anything

[@ericgeorge5483]

But its horrid.

[@TheJohnlyh]

@@ericgeorge5483 the repair bills won't be 😂

[@ericgeorge5483]

@@TheJohnlyh I bet they would be.

[@CarlosTV4u]

Own both 100 series and Touareg TDi. Touareg has more leg room, more luxury feel, far mor comfortable, power is instant but the land cruiser obv has more cargo space and cheaper to maintain.

[@DesertFJSummit]

I bought a Grand Cherokee Summit 2015 and it’s a much better car to live with than I could ever imagine at the price I paid. V8 HEMI is great. Use it off-road most weekends and it’s so capable.

[@kojotot3173]

That v8 in the range rover is known for the fatal head gaskets and the other engines got other various issues and the electronics are a joke after 10+ years. U usually get told to avoid Range rovers but somehow they're recommended on fifth gear Hm 🤔

[@kr63]

Kojotot that’s the main reason it’s so cheap

[@celsocosta880]

The reason they recommend it is because its British and helps the economy but anyone outside UK with a bit of sence should certainly avoid anything British products!!

[@chappy2121]

Same as what the car cost to buy in repairs every year

[@stringer-ik1pc]

What do they make in your shithole country.??????

[@themidnightracer3537]

I was looking at a Range Rover for about £3,000-£4000, I’m not a rich person and a old Toyota Land Cruiser are crazy money, so I was really thinking about the Range Rover but then I seen how much parts are and the equipment you need to work on them, now don’t get me wrong I absolutely love range/land rovers but you have to remember the old ones have expensive bmw parts in them. It’s hard to get a good price Range Rover that hasn’t had some shady workmanship on it or full service history, I know there out there but the price doubles

[@basithph8958]

The Land Cruiser is easily the winner Because it’s a Toyota that’s dependable

[@islamziar2164]

3.0 tdi v6 262 bhp not 3.6

[@SpdyHS]

Says all about Fifth Gear that they got that basic info wrong.

[@James28R]

@@SpdyHS lol shiut the fuck up. like top gear got jack shit right

[@SpdyHS]

@@James28R good on you to find my two year old comment.

[@MarkVinewood]

There is no 3.6 V6 Diesel Touareg. 3.6 FSI yes, but what you have is a 3.0 TDI

[@wtf_is_going_on797]

Also it's a 7P not a P6.

[@MatrixDiscovery]

If it doesn't have a Toyota badge, don't buy it! End of story! I love how the host completely ignores all of Ranger Rover faults. It's an endless money pit!

[@lukem4580]

Somebody's been listening to too much Scotty Kilmer 🤣

[@ImperialHDGaming]

luke m I’m guilty! 🙋🏻‍♂️😅

[@MatrixDiscovery]

@@lukem4580 Watch Doug DeMuro Range Rover Warranty from CarMax....you'll see why Range Rovers are endless money pits.

[@sotirismp2883]

Imagine being so connected to dull and unexciting cars

[@MatrixDiscovery]

@@sotirismp2883 You taking about most of VW's line up?

[@e11b10]

the touareg is a 3l diesel not 3.6 and also you chose a touareg which costs around £19000

[@James28R]

cool story

[@amadinlucky3707]

There is one thing i love about you which is your voice

[@Josh-er6oz]

Range Rover all day! Our 2010 is sitting at 160,000 and we haven’t had a single issue 🤞🏽

[@wass006]

You must be the only person in the world

[@ca4129]

😆😆😆

[@ChefEarthenware]

"And in this episode we test three 4x4's. We don't take them off the road".

[@ioanekoroivuki543]

So there wasn't a clear winner because they were all built for different purposes. Makes sense.

[@kr63]

These land cruisers held their value pretty well. It’s actually appreciating these days. It’s not hard to see why

[@davidhancock91]

The later models with V8s and IFS were far more refined

[@deltagames3864]

Instead you could buy a 2007 Suzuki Jimny for like 2500-3000 k and THEY DON'T BREAK

[@usmanfarooq96]

in the conversation for ugliest cars ever

[@kcarpenter6125]

Neither do Toyota

[@James28R]

yeah but then you have to drive a fucking jimny

[@mjose0]

Um, is the Tourag a 3.6 petrol, or the 3.0 diesel? Says TDI under the bonnet. Sloppy journalism.

[@ne1273]

Landcruiser every day of the week and twice on Sunday. That HD-FTE motor is the best engine Toyota has ever produced. I regularly see them here in Australia with over 600k’s if serviced correctly. That’s a $30k -$40k motor over here, if you can find a low K one that is. They are gold,,,

[@ln5747]

True, as I own one. However, starting to look dated these days in terms of output etc. A modern 2 something litre diesel can deliver much more torque, like the 2.8 currently used in the Hilux/LC.

[@walidabdulwali420]

Definitely Land Criuser

[@lrcb40]

I'm not sure the one she's driving is a BMW powered one - looks like a 2010-2012 facelift with Jag V8

[@Stikkzz]

between these 3, as they stand there, just the Toyota i would call a Off Roader.

[@Eidrian111]

Have you driven a Touareg off-road?

[@MariusFourie]

Those issues were only an issue in first gen touaregs.

[@go5592]

And how the hell are we to 'look out for it' as she suggests????

[@Treeboyltd]

Testing 3 4x4’s on the road. How about comparison off road 🤔

[@fyaworx]

Itd probably be unfair on the vw and rover

[@Demjan85]

VW 3.6 v6 TDI? Never heard of one... if it's v6 TDI then it's 3.0l. However if it is petrol might be 3.6l. But looking on video it's a diesel

[@cosmins3268]

This is a 3.0 TDI . The 3.6 was produced until 2014 . The important part is that the performance it's idendical , minus the gas mileage .

[@Demjan85]

@@cosmins3268 never heard of diesel 3.6 by engines, nor can I find any reference for them. As for petrol, yes, they used to be 3.6 naturally aspirated which where replaced by turbo 3.0 by later on

[@Tallandcharming]

Bearrr I think you’re right, no such engine as a 3.6V6 TDI, it was only ever a 3.0V6 TDI, the 3.6 engine is a petrol and even then I don’t know if it’s relevance to the VW

[@cosmins3268]

@@Demjan85 my bad , i mean 3.6 petrol naturally aspirated .

[@davidhancock91]

I have had a 04 Touareg V8. Great fun car. No major problems, and did a lot of beach work. I currently have a 2011 V6 TDI. Just did a major service, all fluids and filters brakes.at 212,000km. It is just a great car. I have been considering updating it, but seriously I cannot justify spending $10s of thousands on something not as good. So I will drive on in a stylish modern car, that doesn’t look 11 years old 😂😊😅

[@taydencornish]

Injectors will fail soon, coolant and oil will pile under the inlet manifold at high 200s too 😊

[@Slash1066]

Land cruiser every day of the week

[@fdsm9211]

Advising people to buy a used range rover is like advising them to be in debilitating debt forever.

[@AnthroGearhead]

Just Brit ppl things

[@eamonnmcdermott1939]

Sultan Saber Lol agreed!

[@OrdinaryJoe12]

Sultan Saber Your in denial over your inner lust for a Range Rover, but you know your not good enough for one so you shame it.

[@James28R]

or, get a job sir?

[@JackStrood]

Why do all Fifth Gears thumbnails look old, like a 5 year old video they've just re-posted?

[@romin888]

I live in the Middle East, ironically I drive a Land Cruiser and my mum drives a 2014 Touareg V6. Enough said.

[@James28R]

enough said? more like.. cool story?

[@hidayamsuya5316]

Aaaaahhh mama weewe Hapo mashine ni landcruiser tuu Nani achukue range rover au vw alale porini Napenda kuwa na uhakika na safari

[@patagualianmostly7437]

Ladasha k resdejuui bytr d ni vbgr..tuu.I have been saying the same for years And nobody listened. Can't think why.

[@harrywagner886]

The range rover is a facelift model

[@soton000]

I see only one off roader here

[@Darthadios]

2016 Touareg is 45000€ car =0 it´s like 3 years old, almost a brand new. You can get a 10000€ Touareg round here but then we talk 2005 model.

[@kienfung3045]

Land Cruiser! No doubt!

[@realhass]

I’m sold, im getting range rover 😆😆😆😆😆

[@ttsboywow2607]

Be careful....

[@AndreiAndrei-rt4po]

about the reliability....

[@AndreiAndrei-rt4po]

not good at all if is an old one....

[@realhass]

@@AndreiAndrei-rt4po I am joking 😀

[@rscosworthfan]

if you want to go miles offroad pick the range rover but if you plan on being able to get home again without breaking down pick the toyota

[@vivekpund4997]

#BringTiffBack

[@V59971]

That Toyota will take you from Dumess (Scotland) to Capetown (South Africa) and back..

[@ruslanbin5266]

sure will the first gen of the touareg up to 2009 the 3.0tdi is builtblike a tank

[@James28R]

but who needs to actually do that? noone

[@sbp6326]

Treg ♥️

[@darnjem1642]

Hi Viki.. Do you by anychance have shares in BP!!!

[@kr63]

Darnjem lmao

[@ericgeorge5483]

I would buy none of those. She never mentioned running costs, tax etc which will inevitably be astronomical.

[@James28R]

got to pay to play baby

[@ericgeorge5483]

@@James28R Or not in my case.

[@matus201]

Pretty sure that Touareg was 3.0L. I don't think they ever did 3.6L diesel, only petrol.

[@edwardbristow2276]

A 2016 VW Touareg is 27k I should know I bought one 2 months ago

[@ThePhonecat]

Well you got ripped off 🤣

[@harithahmed104]

Could've atleast gotten a top spec petrol v8 landcruiser amazon that doesn't look like it's been drafted to transport the new recruits to fight iran Would've been a more equal balance with the rr

[@1985toyotacamry]

Land Cruiser hands down

[@oliver384]

Landcruiser any day,more capable off road and it's not going to break down and start emptying your wallet with gearbox issues, air suspension issues and in the case of TDV8s, blowing turbos.Old Range Rovers cost so little money because they're junk. This is something the Aussies are 100% right on,Landcruiser or Nissan Patrol over anything from Land Rover!.Can't really comment on the VW, don't know a lot about them.

[@go5592]

Why did they get a 100 series Land Cruiser?, a 120 would of been a better option in this test. And why does VBH think she has to drive everything like a bloody sports car? even a 2 ton 4x4. To be honest it was a poor effort of a review overall.

[@laurieh]

Its the same size as the other 2! 120 is much smaller

[@saltinecracker6586]

I love how the newer Range Rover cost more than the old land cruiser

[@rit4140]

lol, shows how horrible the range rovers are

[@James28R]

you mean less, right?

[@bekabeka71]

12000 for a 2016 vw toureg? I think they are mistaking something

[@craiggreenhalgh1082]

My thoughts exactly on the £12000. For a 16 plate 😂🤣 I'll have that one if it is ❗

[@ethancarroll805]

My grandfather paid 25 for his last year

[@outdoor4x412]

Second hand off roaders video with no off roading?

[@kmuinde]

Fear that the vw and ranger rover will break while doing it

[@sanjsingh8504]

Doesn’t make sense - the Vougue is a 2010 facelift which is considerably higher in price that what’s shown here - also the vw is not the same as the 2010 model either so this is a misleading video

[@Gaming4Ohio]

That Range Rover is not a 2010+ somebody added the upgraded grill head/tail lights

[@jackshotton9222]

Gaming 4 Ohio Yes it’s a TD6 that’s been facelifted. The guy Matt who facelifted it had done a good job

[@hughmarcus1]

Yes. If it’s the 4.4 BMW engine it has to be 06 at latest. £12k would get you a really nice late L322 with a TDV8 which is superior all round.

[@geoffk777]

One of these is bulletproof reliable true off-roader that will cross the African Savannah without breaking a sweat. Two of them will become endless moneypits that will spend their life in the garage. So the Toyota is the only one to consider.

[@James28R]

how many need to cross the bloody african savannah?? thats right, not many. so uying a car based on that is a bit silly.

[@geoffk777]

@@James28R Well yeah, especially if you're buying a 4x4 just for style. But reliability is stil a concern, even if it never gets muddy.

[@V59971]

That Toyota will out live all those other cars

[@andreborges2106]

Lol @ this list 😂😂

[@TheFacilitiesOfficer]

I would pick the range rover every time

[@userwl2850]

Dodge Nitro.... nuff said.

[@BionicRusty]

I thought they were going to be tested off-road! I’ve always considered the Touareg to be a ‘soft roader’. The other two are more purposeful off roaders, especially with the right tyres.

[@francisco7661]

😂

[@vicjones3992]

That is a 3.0 tdv6 touareg - not a 3.6 petrol

[@ethancarroll805]

Tdi

[@Countrysideboy247]

I have a land cruiser 70 series ! It is stock ,only has a pair of diff lockers ! Still can beat that Range Rover ! And has finished 400k miles right from 1987 ! And has not broken ! The British are masters in making super cars like McLaren and old retro machines like defender and morgons ! They must concentrate on those ! The Range Rover might be the most capable luxury 4x4 ,but it is for the rich !

[@CalldeMolly]

3.0 tdi touareg is just over 240hp

[@stamy74]

Second hand? Toyota Land Cruiser hands down.

[@tobysemler]

If you can afford the Cruiser, then there's only one choice.

[@Proteus6684]

jesus, that was a no brainer from the start if you want a 4x4

[@bojankis5999]

Why are you sound so exited every time you say letter J?

[@DryUrEyesMate]

the touareg shown is not the off road varinet they do

[@ArturoPerez-si2xk]

Can't believe Volkswagen would be more expenssive than a Land Rover, but if you want a real Off-Road the Toyota Land Cruiser

[@bighes100]

Obviously a new VW is gonna be better than an old 4x4..... at least compare similar ages.

[@mohammedmazar635]

How was the VW £12k even 2 years ago?

[@aaronmacy9134]

I love 5th Gear but dear god their used car advice is shit. “Strapped for cash but like fancy shit?! Why not S-Class?!” I wonder how many bankruptcies their sage advice have caused.

[@MarkWright1963]

The Land Cruiser will last an eternity best allrounder! For looks and prestige the Range Rover; the VW is disposable and has neither of the virtues of the other two!

[@Edgar_89]

In don’t think so, the touareg have better performance on and off road than the range rover 🦾

[@MachoMadness69420]

The only way the Range Rover reaches 60 in under 9 seconds is down an incline.

[@robintierney1792]

Surely thats "down a decline" as an incline is uphill? 🤔🤔🤔

[@MachoMadness69420]

@@robintierney1792 You’re right.

[@joannaatkins822]

The Toyota is the only smart move here. Either that or get an older 2.7tdi discovery 3. They're around 3k in the UK, and heaps more reliable than the 4.4 found in the range rover.

[@oliver384]

The 2.7 TDV6?!, chocolate gearboxes,snapped cranks and body off to change a cambelt?, I'd rather take my chances with the BMW engine to be honest!, but I'd rather have the Landcruiser than any of them.

[@joannaatkins822]

@@oliver384 I think you might be thinking of the discovery 2, the 3 uses a very good gearbox, and the majority of problems can be solved with some wd40 and a fluid change...

[@oliver384]

@@joannaatkins822 The 3 uses the ZF6HP which is the one I was referring to, had one fail in my 2.7 TDV6 RRS, gearbox issues with the D3 and RRS are quite common, and rather expensive.I know LR say sealed for life but wouldn't go past about 50k miles without changing the oil and filers on this gearbox, but really given the choice I'd just buy the Landcruiser!.

[@mmmmohammed8708]

Dont get me wrong guys but she is hilarious by saying the range rover has a bit of a problem. No the range rover has a long list of problems.

[@stringer-ik1pc]

You'd have the 'isis taxi' wouldn't you mohammad. 😂😂😂😂

[@mmmmohammed8708]

@@stringer-ik1pc ,,😆

[@The_Notorious_CRG]

Even after the the mechanic checks it out and gives the ok...the Rover will break down soon thereafter.

[@Freddy-td8fl]

One thing: if it's not reliable it's garbage (land Rover and toureg)

[@Excalibus75]

Best Second Hand Off Roaders | Fifth Gear, erm the tests was done on roads, not off...

[@kris8742]

The only one you would considering the colonies would be the Toyota, second the Ranger Rover the VW would be rubbish for the bush its for taking the kids to school

[@mohdazizjaafar3606]

Range rover?? 😆😆 Used range rover???🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ozacsic2832]

I will stick to the Toyota Landcruiser

[@Bassam.E]

Rang rover marketing 😉

[@PacMacDo]

Hello vikki

[@dylanpower1438]

Range Rover might be £5000 but they running cost and repairs will end up being the same price as a brand new Range Rover plus more

[@Freddy-td8fl]

How can you put a land cruiser next to those turds

[@AJ-ms1oi]

Pick the.... none of them!!