Budget VS Luxury: Jaguar XJ6 / Maserati Quattroporte V | Fifth Gear Second Hand Heroes

[@shaking6360]

Always great seeing a professional doing a review instead of al those so-called car 'expert' influencers. It's a pleasure seeing you Vicki.

[@tylerhamilton-nz8qs]

Totally agree. There is one in particular just channels Jeremy Clarkson!

[@darrenhitchman1206]

@@tylerhamilton-nz8qs

[@JuliuszBaczynski]

you know it used to be the norm, however youtube was not the norm when cable tv was dominating

[@muhammadzailani7313]

It's an absolute joy seeing Vicki, she brings back memories from the good old days of british motoring journalism. We grew up watching her, Clarkson, Needel, Hammond, May, Quentin, Jason, Jonny etc.

[@paulandrewforget1694]

Exactly @muhammadzailani7313! The old ways were the best ways, give me good old Fifth Gear or give me death 😜🏁🇬🇧 Tiff & Vicki are my favs. Thank God for the KZbin channel. 👍

[@AtheistOrphan]

@@paulandrewforget1694- Unfortunately Tiff left the programme five years ago. I quite liked him.

[@Beauloqs]

She's aged waaaaay way better than Clarkson, but then again, hasn't pretty much everybody.....

[@philip771]

The 2003-2009 XJ8 would be a better comparison, lovely though the old XJ6 is. I own one and it's absolutely wonderful 😁

[@tylerhamilton-nz8qs]

Or even the older X308

[@shelbynamels973]

the best part about on older car like the Jaguar is the bright and airy cabin. The pillars don't look like doric columns, allowing a good view all around, and the roofline is high enough to make getting in and out a breeze. Compare that to the view from the bunker on the Maserati.

[@john1703]

20 years between their ages!

[@paulnewman9275]

I have a mint XJ6 Series 3 4.2L, 29,000 miles , metallic Sapphire Blue - it's an incredible car. A classic that is still at home on today's roads but with less annoying pointless gadgets. 1982 so historic class :))

[@houseofwine7704]

Congratulations for your (and my) dream car! There is nothing better than a classic Jaguar in outstanding condition ❤

[@3ducs]

Two years ago I was looking at Series 3 XJ6's, I found a 1986 that was really nice at $25,000 USD. Then I started looking at XJ8s. Massive leap forward in technology, a lighter all aluminum car, much more power from its 4.2L V8, very nice 6-speed automatic. I found a black 2006 VDP with 80,000 miles that had been converted to coil-overs and bought it. It was about half the price of that XJ6, I think it was the right choice.

[@supermanbatman493]

Vikki is still beautiful my childhood crush. I’d still marry her today 😍😍.

[@EleanorPeterson]

A spirited filly indeed, but she'd be jolly high maintenance! 😁Why, just keeping her in petrol would be enough to give your wallet palpitations...

[@12345rpm]

@supermanbatman493 I'll marry her before you. LOL!

[@AkramBaig2689]

She best milf

[@AkramBaig2689]

​@@12345rpmohi ohi chill out lads

[@marcantoine3840]

Two of my favourite cars, I wouldn’t be able to choose, but if I had to it would be the Jag. I owned a 3200 GT before, thus had my Maserati experience, and the Jag reminds me of my Latin teacher who I admired for his passion for the arts, and drove. Daimler V12

[@Homebous76]

I too owned a 3200 and it was a beast. I then owned the Sports version of the Quattroporte and it's on another level

[@bicyclist2]

As long as it's well maintained, I'd go with the Jag. Thanks.

[@-DC-]

XJ all day long an absolutely timeless beautiful car ❤️

[@KathiJordan]

The Series 3 is the most beautiful and no other car could replicate its handling and overall feel. I had one of the mid 80s Vanden Plas versions and spectacular it was.

[@raymondchan9802]

The XJ6 series3 is the ultimate luxury for me. Will never look at other "luxury".

[@Haffschlappe]

Chinese computers in Maserati are a time bomb

[@sirjosephwhitworth9415]

I bought a XJ6 in 1988 when it was three years old, kept it for eight years. Wonderful, then and now. Lyons best creation, and one which unfortunately Jaguar Cars slowly ruined the looks of. Jaguar have never created such an appealing car since, Lyons was Jaguar. RIP William.

[@paulandrewforget1694]

It’s already on the record that Rawdon Glover, Jaguar’s managing director, has one of the toughest automotive jobs on the planet. His immediate task is to kill off (“sunset”) the current, mostly combustion-engine range of traditional Jaguar models and replace it from 2026 with a radical, three-tier EV line-up that lifts pricing into the realms of Bentley. Speaking to Autocar, Glover - 11 years at Jaguar, with previous Volkswagen Group experience - is undaunted by the size of the challenge. The range will begin with a Porsche Taycan-busting GT - previewed by a concept arriving in December - followed by a Bentley Bentayga-sized SUV and finally a big four-door limo in 2029. RIP William Lyons. RIP Jaguar Cars.

[@simonhodgetts6530]

Two of the most beautiful saloon cars ever made!

[@fasthracing]

V12 Jag for me.

[@julianlord2697]

Cars from 20 years apart. The base of the XJ6 was 1969. I love jags of this era. My 1990 6.0 V12 XJRS is a dream but i want another xj6

[@TogetherFaster]

Very good content. It was a pleasure to watch your video! Best regards from Germany Rainer

[@josephkelly4893]

The series 3 sovereign is peak Jaguar, had a XJ40 Sovereign in similar spec but always wanted a series 3 as it has that classic look. Would love one to float around in my older years. Great review once again Vic. The old Three Trident is a nice bit of kit too

[@DavidDatura]

My two favorite saloon cars of all time. The two prettiest cars of their type ever designed as well IMO.

[@oggie1967]

I had an XJ40 Sovereign in that same colour and truthfully it was the comfiest most cosseting car i have ever owned! Had it for 4 years as a Sunday Funday car, once saw 7 miles per gallon on full chat in sport mode. Rotten chassis got her in the end, shame!😥♥️👍

[@bryango5979]

we only have fifth gear going now. ive watched both fifth gear and top gear before. and then the grand tour and fifth gear after stopping top gear when the trio left. still a joy to watch vicki do the reviews.

[@Ze_Hans]

Fifth Gear: cheap Top Gear alternative

[@Simone-Bucn]

​@@Ze_Hans Top Gear/Grand Tour: Fifth Gear for people with an IQ below 70. Nothing but idiotic "pranks" & jokes.

[@seinsmeld13]

Great review Vicki. 🥶

[@JamesCopeland-i1j]

You drove the wrong Quattroporté. Should've went with the 2007 4.2 with ZF automatic gearbox. (Hint: look for blue valve covers, and an actual shifter)

[@ashash8940]

Well, in my opinion, the ZF is the “Wrong” one, the QP was originally designed based on a Dry Sump Ferrari based engine with a transaxle sequential gearbox in the back, that was how the QP was designed in the first place. When customers who came from a luxury automatic gearbox car like MB and BMW, etc. they were unfamiliar with the transaxle sequential gearbox, they thought it is just an automatic gear, then they start complaining about how “harsh” the gearbox is! I believe there was a disconnect from both sides, Maserati did not explain enough what the DuoSelect gearbox is, and the fact that is it a mid-engine high rev dry sump transaxle car, and the customer who assumed it is a simple and easy to drive just like any other automatic gearbox cars! For a better sales numbers, Maserati was “forced” to switch to automatic gearbox, they changed the entire configurations, changed the engine to Wet Sump, they put a ZF automatic gearbox in the front instead of the sequential transaxle in the back, the car became a different one, and lost its uniqueness. The performance changed as well DuoSelect 0-100km/h =5.2 sec, ZF= 5.6 sec, DuoSelect top speed =275 km/h, ZF =270, DuoSelect 47%/53% from/rear weight distribution, ZF 49%/51% I have owned many S calss, W140, W220, BMW, etc, and I drove both ZF and DuoSelect QP, I ended up with the DuoSelect, growing up driving a manual transmission since I learned how to drive, the DuoSelect was the “right” one. I remember when I tested drive a ZF QP, the owner told me that his car has the “good” transmission, not the “bad” one! I looked at him and asked, can you explain what do you mean by good and bad transmission? He couldn’t answer… I hope the people who read this understand the whole story. Yes, the DuoSelect is a very complex system and need a costly maintenance and clutch replacement from time to time just like any other Ferrari sequential gearbox, this doesn’t make it a “bad” transmission or less reliable!

[@JamesCopeland-i1j]

@ashash8940 - 1st gen DuoSelect is trash. End of story. I don't care how it compares in terms of performance numbers, weight distribution, or anything else. The experience is 💩. Had they offered the car with a PROPER sequential gearbox (dog/shuttle shift) it would be a different story. They didn't. It isn't. All that being said, there are upgrades to bring a 1st gen into the modern era of operation... but you're still dealing with the headache of an automated manual transmission, and reduced service life of several costly components. In short, I don't care what you or your numbers say... just like most other people didn't, when Maserati made the wise decision to switch.

[@ashash8940]

@@JamesCopeland-i1j We agree to disagree! I don’t care about the performance numbers as well, I just put it there as part of explaining the whole story, dose 5.2 vs 5.6 0-100 make a big difference, absolutely not! We cannot compare apple to orange, DuoSelect and ZF are 2 different cars, it drives different and feels different, there are many available upgrades to make it a smoother shifting, DBW or ECU mapping for examples. It is simple, if you don’t know how to drive the DuoSelect, if you cannot afford the running cost/clutch replacement, or if “you cannot deal with the headache of an automated manual transmission”, then again, it is simple, don’t buy one and go for the ZF! I wonder if you drive the Ferrari 360 or the 430 F1 -It is a similar sequential gearbox-, would you say it is a trash gearbox as well?

[@JamesCopeland-i1j]

@ashash8940 - you're comparing a 2-place sports car, with a saloon (4dr sedan). Just stop. If the 4dr sedan market wanted the DuoSelect, they wouldn't have bothered to replace it, or even offer an alternative. I don't mind learning to drive again, just to get a few tenths of performance from a sports car... but it's an exercise in abhorrence for a sedan.

[@iconicetiquette4546]

The jaguar is a legend I had two fantastic car the design is ageless 😊

[@johndoughty2659]

This is actually my Maserati Quattroporte being shown here. I took it down the Gilks Cafe in Warwickshire for them to borrow for the programme.

[@stevelovescars]

I always loved that generation of Jag. The twin aircraft style has caps always amazed me for some reason. I have been looking at XJRs from the early 2000’s recently. A bit more modern and powerful but seemingly dirt cheap… but not quite as perfectly proportioned as that Mk. III.

[@lolkevandewitte1713]

The Maserati QP V was built from 2003 until 2012. The model shown here is a pre-2007 model; it still had the very troublesome Cambio corsa-gearbox. In 2007 they switched to a 6 speed ZF-automatic, which is rather reliable.

[@tubalooney]

Jaaag every time 🙂the serenity of the Jag is just sublime

[@Paul58069]

The Jag, nothing else. Most beautiful saloon car ever made.

[@lincolnshep]

Totally agree.

[@jonathanpardoe8722]

Pehaps pitching the V12 Jag series 3 might have been a better comparison . I had all the 7 series BMW's and Mercs before sensibly buying a repatriated NOS V12 series 3 Daimler last year from Japan and I know which car I would always drive home in !!

[@leoedward7363]

Fifth Gear still kicking on, just casually being the world’s best car show

[@Ze_Hans]

You have to be kidding😂😂😂😂

[@cklam8722]

Makes me sad to see those little fancy things in both cars disappeared in the EVs.

[@liverpoolscottish6430]

I'd pick the XJ6 all day, everyday over the Maserati. The XJ6 is arguably THE most beautiful saloon ever built. They are sublime machines, such beautiful lines- from an era when Jaguar actually built beautiful, graceful cars- something they no longer do. I own 3 classic cars- a very interesting Capri which pushes out 290 Bhp and 300 lbs ft of torque- owned for 30 years. A 1972 Rover P6B 3500, and an XK8 with interesting history- 1997 Earls Court Motor Show display car. The P6 is a beautiful machine to drive, with a sybaritic ride quality- only the XJ6 had a slight edge over the P6 in that department. The XJ6 and P6 were the two finest saloons of the 1970's- no doubt about it. Just sitting in the XK8 is deeply satisfying, lashings of walnut- the elliptical Spitfire wing dash, leather seats- it's a special place to be. Contemporary Jags have lost all of that opulence now- which goes some way to explaining why Jaguar is teetering on the brink of collapse. Biggest mistake they ever made? Making the XF- a car that looks like an Audi. VBH and her quip about the backseat............A plethora of 'Carry On' like ribald comments flooded my mind! However, as a Rover P6 and Jaguar driving gentleman, far be from me to be smutty! There again, the Capri does bring out my inner Lewis Collins and he would have been delighted to have VBH on the back seat of his 3.0S Capri.............ROFL :)

[@EdAb]

Fabulous video! Lovely Vicki, gorgeous Series III and Quattroporte. The the Series III could possibly be my most favourite sedan of all times, but I think a Jaguar XJ8 (X-350) would have been the better alternative to the Maserati.

[@alanbrown2045]

Don’t forget the 5.3 V12

[@blacktiedriver1486]

I've had an '88 Sovereign, and an '05 Quattroporte. With both cars, you might have 2 days a year where everything worked as it should. I noticed even Vicki's test car had a tyre warning light on 😂 Anyone actually considering a Quattroporte - get the ZF auto on the 07 onwards cars. It's much more robust, cheaper to maintain, and so much nicer to drive in traffic.

[@garyleibitzke4166]

When someone mentions Jaguar I immediately think of that series of cars, right after the XKE. To me the current Jaguars lack that classic look.

[@1125bjfitz]

The Jag is a hangover from the 60s and the Maser was new in 2004 but there’s only 17 years difference in production years. Both a money pits at this point 😅 - love seeing VBH doing a review though!

[@scottpankonin1068]

Absolutely love the quatroporte. My favourite car ever.

[@marcp108]

Two absolutely lovely cars. I'd probably have to go with the Jag as ongoing maintenance costs for the Maserati (which is lovely to look at and hear) are ridiculous.

[@FrancescoMarelli84]

Vicky you're a star, so good to see you in action ❤

[@hakankursunmusic]

Thank you, both:)

[@andylaws4247]

They did a 5.3 V12 Series 3 XJ also.

[@jDarkFater1954]

For a more direct (if possible) comparison, a better XJ V8 from the same Year as the Maserati would have made a difference, no ? Food for thoughts...

[@BillyBoy444]

Love old Jags. Can you do an X Type Vs Mondeo and maybe throw the S Type in there too. They are so cheap at the moment.

[@davidarter6271]

As a Series 3 V12 owner, I’d take the Jag every day!

[@johnhopkins7614]

VBH doesn’t appear to age just like the gorgeous XK6

[@robertlundgoot4736]

Jag. For me....

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

The top range XJ wasn't the sovereign, there was the Daimler above it and the Vanden Plas (also Daimler badged) above that

[@eddieconroy212]

The Mk3 XJ was a beauty and I’ve driven a couple over the years. The Mazer in comparison looks a bit cheap in my opinion.

[@EleanorPeterson]

I'd be happy with an even smaller XJ. A six cylinder 2.8 litre engine is perfectly adequate. Road-going Jags are not MEANT to be hot hatchbacks. Zero to sixty times are irrelevant. Only the ghastly non-Jag classes care about who's loudest or fastest or quickest round the Nürburgring. An XJ is made for effortless cruising in blissful comfort. My dad had one for years - a 4-speed manual with overdrive - and it was everything you'd want a 'proper' family car to be. Not a track-monster. Not a traffic-light GP w*nk machine. Not a hairy-chested B-road brawler. It was just a Jaaag. Beautiful lines, too. And all that a bellowing 5.3 litre V-12 does is get you to the next petrol station more quickly. Stopping for fuel every hour is sooooo middle-class, daahling... yah?🤭

[@MrKilekico]

This Jaguar is one of my dream car

[@46spanner]

The XJ6 was originally known as the XJ4, the XJ prefix, as you mention, being assigned to various prototypes, for example prior to introduction the V12 E type was known as the XJ25 Jaguar felt that XJ6 (& XJ12) was more appropriate

[@baarai]

I'd choose a well-sorted Jaguar, myself.

[@dannyvanzijl1975]

Great stuff vicky!

[@ashtondimovski7074]

Odd to pin a geniune classic with a modern classic like that. The reason the XJ was dubbed experimental was due to the way it was constructed. Skulk around the internet long enough, you’ll find the XJ was effectively a four door E-Type. There are actually photos you’ll see of the stretched E-Types, that eventually became the shape we recognize. So this contrasts with the original Mk1 Quattroporte, S-Class, 7-Series and other comparable large cars, because they were built from the ground up as comfy cruisers. The XJ started life as a legitimate sportscar, and became a cruiser. Hence why, when you compare like for like (and model year for model year) the XJ was always the best driving of the big saloons/sedans. It was always the lightest in its class, and drove more like a 3-Series then a big car. And of course, this is nuanced, because naturally in the comparison we see here, the more modern Quattroporte is more dynamic to drive. But compare a similar vintage XJR, and while both are exciting, the Jag is slightly better to drive. The Jag will always be the cooler car. But the Maserati strikes back by being a much more passionate and fiery personality. The Jaguar is more civilized, whereas the Maserati is more enthusiastic. Both of these cars are just the best cars you can enjoy in any circumstance.

[@Homebous76]

I had the Sports 2007 Quatraporte. Fantastic car

[@ajwest3081]

VBH - such a babe!!

[@hassadhassan2610]

i love the comparison. should be track test

[@NickPhillips-vo3xl]

Jag everytime. A proper luxury car

[@TheGel69]

Comparing apples n oranges, Vicki should have compared a 68 xj6 with the 68 quattroporte, that would have been a more relevant match

[@martinogold]

The headlamp wipers alone mean the Jag wins it for me.

[@Ze_Hans]

In reality: Old luxury VS less old luxury Not a sigle thing is "budget" about both of them....

[@urbanstrencan]

Just awesome to see Fifth Gear back, Vicki, Rory, Jason,... cant wait for new episodes

[@stringer-ik1pc]

Not Rory. Annoying as fk.

[@AtheistOrphan]

Every Thursday on Quest.

[@iliaskottis]

Maserati by far❤❤

[@norwegianzound]

The QP is so much more beautiful.

[@dracos72]

Would have been better if Jag chosen had been closer to the same age such as an xjr with the V6 supercharger.

[@Paul-fv4no]

Isn't Vicki gorgeous. Oh which car? Clutch only lasts between 20-30,00 miles plus the other expensive fixes? I'd go with a sorted XJ6.

[@billyray4729]

I would have said the Jaguar mk 3 V12 sovereign was the top of the range or Daimler Double Six? Odd omission there? Two very different prospects here..

[@fjung123]

OMG is this the XJ6 out of the British Motor Museum!?

[@alanbaker2347]

Hi Vicki U R the most amazing person on the entire planet U R the most amazing driver & I totally loved it when you drove the BMW M3 GTS that was Totally Amazing U R my favourite driver ever

[@skbuydens7717]

This looks like the choice between which car will cost me less to repair.

[@sej8806]

Grace, pace and space. Jaaaaag!

[@karmanline2005]

Odd comparison really, quite different cars. Maybe compare the x350 XJR. Anyway, all XJs know what they are, and provide Grace, Pace and Space. The Mas is a compromised and confused car, not a GT saloon and not a sports car, so is always a niche choice.

[@nash1338]

They didn't do the soundtrack of the quattroporte justice... see top gear's 4 door supercars..."I've had a crisis"

[@lolkevandewitte1713]

That indeed is a briljant ‘test’! I watch it back every now and then.

[@daliborpuchta1952]

That was an LCI GT S versionin the TG episode with Panamera etc... very different sound.

[@solovyoff]

agreed with your choice

[@andybroer651]

Buy the Maserati ZF auto and you'll be much happier

[@boatpasstation]

Jaguar ❤

[@sidewalkMCS]

Fifth gear please stay away from ev. Ev fans will always hate anyone who thinks cars are fun. We car lovers will always love you!

[@thorsrensen3162]

I knew Vikky in the end would choose the unreliable italian badboy over the british gentleman.

[@MLC...]

Usually I am an Italian car fan, however, the Jaguar is much more beautiful than the Maserati. And, judging by the struggles of a certain KZbinr with such a Maserati recently, you only go for the Maserati if you wish for troubles and bankruptcy. Too much complexity, too much spaghetti.

[@cambs0181]

Great looking cars, though wouldn't take either on a smart motorway.

[@bond0666]

Jaguar all day

[@tsrkn]

jag superb i have xj40also love it

[@porscha901]

Jag for me

[@georgewallerlll496]

Are you saying that you would have to change the clutch on an automatic transmission, after 20-30,000 miles? I might expect that from a manual transmission, but an automatic? Why is that?

[@-DC-]

Because it's not a Traditional Torque Converter Auto, It's a Robotic Manual and a very poor one at that.

[@seanpaul3050]

Both of those will spend more time being repaired than being used. And the 4door will eat your money.

[@CandidSeagull]

Good reviews and you always have to rate Vicky but I find the comparison strange to ridiculous, you missed a good opportunity.

[@matthewgodwin3050]

If I had to choose between these two, it would be the Jag. However, I wouldn't buy one. I'd go for an early Lexus LS400. It's head and shoulders above any other car in it's class, and the car I most aspire to own. They're absolutely glorious.

[@markravenall5603]

Not a fair comparison really. There's a near 20 year difference in the Cars and technologies.

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

Gimme the Jag.

[@rovercoupe7104]

Rover 75. M

[@Future-Classic-Cars]

I'm an Jaaaaaag man, my Dad had an XJS convertible but I'd rather have the Masser, the XJ6 looks too dated too old.

[@garethhanna9173]

The main problem with these XJ's is the number of box sections, moisture traps that corrosion delights in.

[@EleanorPeterson]

A really good session with the Waxoyl works wonders, but you need to strip the car down to its undies (😲) to do a proper job.

[@TheSeventhSeal]

A later XJR would've been a better comparison.

[@soundceramics]

A strange comparison, someone explain please, am I missing something? Perhaps if the old V12 would go head to head with something much newer, well that could be entertaining and random review worthy

[@craig3916]

well the conclusion was always inevitable. these TV 'presenters' are always goanna head for the flashier,faster, bigger, newer, more power, [ in any comparo you watch no matter any other qualities, for car the one faster 0-60 most people will disregard everything else for being faster] like that is all that matters,, or can even go fast nowadays anyway. regardless, inprefer generally the better overall package even if slow n there generally better value. more reliable

[@sureshot8399]

Comparing these two makes no sense. Better the Maserati vs. a Bmw M5 and the Jag against a Merc E class or BMW 7 series of a similar vintage. One type is a sporty saloon, the other a lounge on wheels.

[@shortsongs9394]

The Maserati over the Leyland.