Best Settings Guide for the LG C3

[@j0hn_q______136]

Thank you for your vid, tomorrow picking up my C3 42 for desktop. Stay golden

[@sdk-175]

Thanks!

[@itsjase92]

Awesome video thanks! One small adjustment I'd make is for the HDR Gaming settings you mention DTM can be on or off, but in game mode there's also a 3rd HGiG option which is recommended by a lot of places.

[@scottish-atechreviews]

What would be the in game slider 800nits for HGIG? Also 4000nit for dynamic tone map?

[@zebedeerotten533]

no idea what it is ill turn it of if games dont wort thats their problem ill have money back

[@cheema33]

Switching to "PC mode" by editing the inputs as shown as one of the first steps in this video made the biggest difference for me. I use my LG TV for work and the jaggy text was driving me bonkers! But, it is now gone! I cannot thank you enough!

[@tftcentral]

Glad to help!

[@kenboi2733]

how is the text clarity? Is it sharp enough not to bother you? This is my only concern that's holding me back from buying one.

[@SuperMasbas]

@@kenboi2733 its nice go for it

[@scoso.88]

Just picked up a 55” C3 to replace the 65” CX monitor. Incredible screens. Thanks for all your work!

[@FarhadKazemi-my2vx]

ya id changed my 2019 55" lg oled to a brand new 55 C3 and WOW so brighter so vivid and best tv i ever had surely a lot better than my Samsung qled qn90b and 2019 oled i feel its a new Generation of tv because its so better image quality not twice better i could say 4X better than my other tvs ...

[@EmperorBeelz]

I had a moment when I thought I had make a mistake buying this TV for my PC as everything was choppy and not functioning correctly. That first part getting it set to the higher hz saved me. Thank you!

[@antoniodarchangel3782]

Thank you so much for this! just got mine and its a stunner for gaming and work alike!

[@zaleskar]

This video is a godsend. Liked and subscribed.

[@PNYHD]

How do you get the expert,I’m only seeing the filmmaker

[@gigathought]

Thank you so much! Exactly the info I needed to get setup quick and easy!

[@markdavenportjr5129]

Ever since we go the C3 65 inch version for our living room and I hooked up my PC a few times to it I'm OMG. I totally HAVE to save up for a 42 inch version. :)

[@renehoidal]

I found it to be a bit too much on the warm side when editing photos, do you have any other recommendations, things to be aware of for this particular use? Great video btw :)

[@fatheenkhan6526]

Thank you so much for this video...Really helpful! Love from INDIA! Keep going and make more of these

[@ChromeJob]

Thanks so much for this video. There's a lot of interest in use of the G3/C3s for gaming over on AVSforums (not AVforums, tho' probably there, too), this and your review provide valuable information for that user niche. Well done!

[@snukbt]

Under the System > Display > HDR settings, while turning 'use hdr' to on, the "SDR content brightness" slider does impact brightness when adjusting even when in HDR mode. What do you suggest this be set to? I believe the default was 30 or around there, thank you.

[@tftcentral]

That only impacts the brightness of SDR content like your desktop and office applications when viewing them within HDR mode. It won’t impact actual HDR content brightness in any way. But I would not recommend using HDR mode in windows unless you’re viewing actual HDR content. Leave it disabled the rest of the time and use SDR mode properly tftcentral.co.uk/articles/heres-why-you-should-only-enable-hdr-mode-on-your-pc-when-you-are-viewing-hdr-content

[@snukbt]

@@tftcentral very good, thank you!

[@will1565]

This couldn't have come at a better time, I have one of these beauties waiting to be set up 2moro. Cheers mate :)

[@sunbob_]

Thinking of buying a C3, I have a question: you set the OLED Pixel Brightness to 41 and say it removes the need for ABL. Does that mean that the autodimming will never happen? I used to have an LG LCD around 5 years ago plugged into my PC, and every time I went on a very white or bright yellow website the whole screen dimmed. It drove me crazy. I'm currently using a Samsung Q70A TV (4K 120hz) as my monitor, and it's pretty good, but I want to try OLED, but the dimming is what's making me hestitate. I do play games, but I also surf a whole lot.

[@tftcentral]

Yes thats correct. You need to keep the overall luminance low for this to happen though. 41% should return you a luminance of ~120 nits which in our testing was maintained regardless of the APL / window size / content and offered a uniform brightness behaviour. Higher settings showed ABL dimming though for the largest APL (100% full white screen would dim a bit relative to smaller samples)

[@sunbob_]

@@tftcentral Thank you.

[@Char-Aznable-UC-0059]

Thank you so much, I didn't know about the change resolution section. It is so much better. liked and subbed.

[@stillgam1ng]

FYI - anyone who has trouble getting the 120HZ make sure you ALSO turn on the GAME OPTIMISER on your LG TV whilst in game mode. Once you do that the 120hz option will be available to choose in the NVIDIA resolution settings under PC(as shown in the video) Initially my LG C3 tv had GAME OPTIMISER turned off be default which is why I couldn’t see the 120hz option when I was in the NVIDIA settings

[@Matthew2k11420]

My PC has an older gpu (nvidia geforce gtx 770) and I cant get a signal at all connected to this tv. Is there a setting I am missing? Thank you

[@tftcentral]

It might be that it’s so old it can’t even support 4K res or something. May be severely limited but you’d need to check the specs of what the card can handle

[@Matthew2k11420]

@@tftcentral Is it possible to turn off deep colour on the C3 model?

[@tftcentral]

@Matthew2k11420 I think so but don’t have access to the screen to be able to check I’m afraid

[@_berbull4369]

Hi, thank you so much. Made a big difference. Can you do a similar video for the C4.

[@tftcentral]

Sorry that’s not a screen we’ve reviewed

[@mint301]

I dont see that resolution available in the pc section

[@snukbt]

Hello, would you suggest replicating the settings in this video for the C4? I've been using your settings for around a year now but have recently upgraded to the C4. If not do you plan on releasing a settings guide for the C4? Thank you!

[@tftcentral]

No plans for that screen I’m afraid but I expect most of these settings would still apply. The brightness and colour settings may be different though but try them to see how they look

[@ispin_loki]

Thanks for the video, a very useful guide

[@MMCXCIV]

I use these HDR general settings for regular TV/movies/YT and the HDR gaming settings for my PS5 Slim. They seem perfect except for one thing. I changed the color temperature from warm 50 to 0 because I found it too yellowish. But I have two questions. I turned on AMD FreeSync Premium, will this improve the PS5 image? Also, I see this nowhere in any calibration video of the LG C3, the 4:4:4 Pass Through setting. It says it's meant for a HDMI coupled PC but when I turn it on or off on PS5 I see colors changing and maybe something with the sharpness but I'm not sure if its improving the image or not. What do you think about this setting? When I installed my recently bought PS5 Slim the LG C3 put the 4:4:4 Pass Through setting on by default for PS5 Slim.

[@tftcentral]

I would leave FreeSync disabled for PS5 use as that will instead use HDMI-VRR for variable refresh rates. You should find that the console still lists VRR support and allows you to turn it on when FreeSync is disabled. The PS5 cannot support 444 chroma anyway, its limit is 422. What’s the alternative settings for that option?

[@MMCXCIV]

​@@tftcentralThank you for your reply. I will turn off both options then. The 4:4:4 Pass Through setting can be either turned on or off. The other settings in that submenu are quick media switching (on or off), HDMI Deep Colour (off or 4K) and SIMPLINK (HDMI-CEC) which can be turned on or off. These settings be found in settings, General, external devices, HDMI-settings.

[@tftcentral]

@MMCXCIV there’s prob no harm leaving it turned on but it won’t be used or needed from that device anyway.

[@MMCXCIV]

@@tftcentral Ok

[@MMCXCIV]

@@tftcentral And what about the Quick Media Switching (QMS)?

[@ronzepavone8025]

Not sure if it was my hdmi cable or not but if some people are experiencing flicker after these settings, I found that lowering the color bitdepth from 12 to 10 in nvidia control panel fixed it for me

[@tftcentral]

Could be the cable for that. It’s a 10-bit panel so that’s fine to use like that

[@ZStrelok]

12:42 - How exactly did you trigger HDR mode in Windows ?

[@tftcentral]

Windows display settings > enable HDR. Have a quick Google it you’re stuck

[@ZStrelok]

@@tftcentral Thanks. Thought so, that's what I did. Correct me if I am wrong. From what I understand, I need to switch HDR On and Off and select the appropriate calibrated mode (Expert or Game Optimizer) depending on the content I want to consume ? Just as an example, if I want to watch an HDR movie, I keep it On and use Cinema HDR mode and if want to switch to playing a game in SDR, I turn it Off and use Game Optimizer SDR mode ? Basically 4 calibrated modes, 2 each for SDR and HDR. And the need to switch to different modes depending on content. Am I right ?

[@tftcentral]

@ZStrelok you can prob get away with just two modes, one for SDR and one for HDR. The screen will remember which one you were using between those two modes too so you won’t have to keep switching. If you’re gaming, I’d set up the game optimizer preset in both SDR and HDR to give you the lowest lag. If you configure it to the settings recommended here, that should all look fine. Saves you messing around then

[@ZStrelok]

Thanks! @@tftcentral

[@GreatSax1]

What settings would I use for over the air TV channels?

[@HolySok]

So what's the actual reason for changing it to Warm 50? Is it "True White" even though it looks Yellow at first? What's the reason for the Cool Default look in the first place?

[@tftcentral]

It’s a normal D65 /6500K but may take some getting used to compared with the very cool panel native which is what seems to be used for the default

[@TheLiddokun]

I think the reason is that the default activates the white subpixels only for "0" color temp. And it so happens that the white subpixels are really blue tint, kinda like older cheap LED lights. It's not accurate, sunlight is like 5700K mid day, incandescent lights are like 3000K. the white subpixels are like 9000K or 10000K! Changing to warm 50 adds a little red subpixel to balance it out and make it accurate.

[@kfir35]

Please can you help me? My oled motion is locked when game optimizer on I don't know what to do

[@Macrosss22]

Thanks so much for the video!!!, just wanted to ask you something... Do I need to activate 4:4:4 Pass Through in the menu if I already have changed the input label to PC? I checked with an image pattern and 444 it's already activated (with just changing the input to pc). Is there any benefit to do both? Keep up the good work!!!

[@tftcentral]

No don’t think you need to change that, just the pc label

[@steveo984]

Also allowing deep color in external devices setting plus allow 4:4:4 gave me better color

[@riick-grimez765]

​@@scottish-atechreviewstry enabling HGIG and following the in depth setup on Xbox

[@scottish-atechreviews]

It’s just makes colour space go to native I don’t see any difference with 4:4:4 enabled

[@scottish-atechreviews]

@@riick-grimez765 its not in depth a few clicks lol that made me laugh 😂

[@DrYouMrTube]

Any reasons it is changing back? It is asking me to confirm. I confirm and then a 2-3 seconds it still reverses to the old non PC setting.

[@Aehaze]

My LG C3 keeps reverting back to the 4k 60 hz setting. Unable to figure out why. Ive had to chage it back to 120 a few times. Running 4080 Super and using a 2.1 HDMI

[@gioruiz3547]

Hi! how can I change the standard mode to fps in gamin mode? thank you

[@stewartsskirestorationhub]

You skipped over brightness for HDR Gaming. i noticed it was at 100. Should it be 100 or 55 like you set in SDR Mode? Also, i noticed HGIG mode is extremely important to have on.

[@tftcentral]

Leave brightness at max default 100 for HDR, you don’t want it capping your peak brightness there. HGiG is useful if you have an input source that supports it properly like a modern games console

[@davenicoll43]

Thank you for this...One question...I have my settings all on HDMI 1 and notice you have yours on 4...Does it make a difference?

[@tftcentral]

None at all

[@Foorkay]

Great video, i love my C3 but I have problems with the aspect ratio of it all. It never shows the entire screen without cutting some parts off. Can you help me fix this?

[@tftcentral]

Strange. Are you def running at 3840 x 2160 res and not anything else? Maybe double check the aspect ratio controls in the screen itself too

[@kevin_m]

Did you sort this out? I found that OLED Care > Screen Move “off” stopped cutting off parts of the picture.

[@comprashielomc]

I wonder why most videos don't set gamma / contrast / digital vibrance in nvidia options?

[@manic_miner]

Such a great guide, thank you, much appreciated

[@jonathankent5898]

What video card and driver version are you using?

[@tftcentral]

We were using an NVIDIA RTX 3090 via HDMI 2.1, with whatever the latest drivers were at the time of the review

[@vestervester9402]

Hi. Can i use that setting for Lg G3 65 inch ? Thanks

[@tftcentral]

Some of the general options will be the same but any colour configuration is likely to be different as it’s a different model. But could give them a go and see how the look anyway

[@arisagustoni9706]

Thank you very much for this video. Very helpful. One question... any reason why you connected the HDMI cable to the exit 4 and not on the exit 2 that has the eARC function ? Should it matter when connecting a PC ? Thanks.

[@tftcentral]

No reason other than it was easier to reach. Yes if you wanted to use eARC you’d need to use that port instead. They should all work the same for PC

[@arisagustoni9706]

@@tftcentral Thank you very much. One more question... I was following your guide, but contrary to what happen to you, activating HDR on W10, when I go to the setup menu on the TV, the "Picture" mode remain in "Expert" (bright space, daytime) and don't change automatically to "HDR Select Mode" why ?

[@tftcentral]

@arisagustoni9706 that’s odd. The tv should detect the HDR input and auto switch. I would expect that to be an issue with the PC input signal somewhere

[@arisagustoni9706]

@@tftcentral What I find strange is that if I go to Home Hub, then the TV switch to HDR, but if I go back to the "home page", the picture setting revert back to "Expert" (bright space, daytime). Don't know why.

[@javierbedoya4965]

It's good to see that HDR curve of PQ EOTF Tracking is perfect by default. RTINGS says C3 was over-brightening most of the EOTF for HDR, when Expression Enhancer is OFF. They recommended the setting (Expression Enhancer: Detail).

[@scottish-atechreviews]

Oh I didn’t know this give it a try with the dynamic tone map off as intended

[@zebedeerotten533]

what

[@zebedeerotten533]

shouldnt need enhancer is this tv that bad

[@notimeforspace2477]

hello,how do i record games in HDR mode but keep the viewing experience the same for SDR viewers? does youtube automatically re-colors HDR videos for those that dont have hdr enabled?

[@tftcentral]

Not sure how that’s handled I’m afraid. Might have to Google it

[@notimeforspace2477]

Thanks!

[@drmikevasovski]

Well done, thank you very much.

[@ChronosChris]

I'm not sure what this d60i white point thing means but people keep telling me to set the White Balance on Warm 50 even for gaming.. But what I'm noticing is literally all the whites have a yellow tint to them now.. Shouldn't white look white and not yellow?

[@tftcentral]

D65 that is, which is 6500K. It's possible you are just used to a much cooler image and it will take some getting used to, especially if you've been using this screen for a while beforehand as it's very cool by default. Also possible that something has changed with the software that changed this, but certainly on our unit, that adjustment delivered the correct white point

[@sonicgoable]

Very useful video tutorial, I wish I have seen this half year earlier.

[@TimedRelease]

I got one of these for PS5 gaming mostly. Are these settings worth messing with for that?

[@tftcentral]

Yeah they’re all still relevant really

[@everyonecanwat]

Do u need to apply these for separately or just put them all for one?

[@tftcentral]

Not sure I know what you mean but follow the steps in the video as you go

[@everyonecanwat]

​@@tftcentralThnx

[@everyonecanwat]

Does C3 really remember all the settings & do i need to be on windows input for making these?

[@tftcentral]

@everyonecanwat yes it will remember the settings once you’ve made them and you can do them for any input device. If you configure a mode for say HDMI input 1, like configure the expert bright mode or something, then you may also need to make sure you’ve selected that same expert bright mode for other inputs like HDMI 2. But you won’t need to reconfigure it each time, just activate the expert bright mode once when you switch to the other input

[@everyonecanwat]

@@tftcentral Changed to HDR Cinema which is shown User Setting & went to Game Optimizer but when im going back to User Settings it locks the Game Optimizer mode where u tweak gsync etc....

[@justaguydoinstuff]

Just received my C3 but there's faint horizontal lines across the entire screen. Any idea how to get rid of those lines?

[@tftcentral]

Could try running the panel clean function manually a couple of times. May also just need some “bedding in” time perhaps

[@amaibot]

@@tftcentral when I first bought the TV and turned it on I had terrible banding streaks. Ran pixel recovery and it was 95% gone. I'm happy)

[@blumpkinexcalibur7523]

Hi, thanks for the video. Soon to be C3 owner here, just curious why filmmaker mode wasn't used for viewing movies?

[@tftcentral]

You can use that if you wish but this guide was for setting up a mode separately and customised to individual settings instead of relying on one of the presets

[@blumpkinexcalibur7523]

@@tftcentral thanks. Do you use different modes for TV (non-PC) use? Is that a circumstance where you would consider filmmaker mode?

[@tftcentral]

@blumpkinexcalibur7523 you could do potentially yes. Especially if for the Tv input you want to leave it set as a normal HDMI input instead of PC input and use any of the additional image processing features that might be useful for tv and video content

[@FOzdemir61]

I have the C3 42 inch model for a few days now and have massive eye strain with it being used as a monitor. I already applied the settings from the video but no chance. I’m not using the screen in the dark and am 80 cm away. Do you guys have any tips ?

[@TheLiddokun]

Color temperature 50 as mentioned, try 90 or 100 cm

[@vrbinho9]

why you didn't mention changing the aspect ratio in the game optimizer in the picture section, should be on the botton after last update, so u can make this tv to be 21:9 od 32:9 for pc gaming?

[@FarhadKazemi-my2vx]

ppz help at first my hdr britnes peak option was on and i could chose between low to high but now it just like yours and my britnes peak option is grayed out and unchangable ..if its set on high automatically im fine with it even wen it gets grayed out but i am not sure if my peak br8tnes is on highest so how can i get it on and change it myself on high? thanks

[@krzysztofg1382]

what should I do if I have not in Select Mode - expert mode?

[@tftcentral]

Is that because you’ve not changed the HDMI input mode? Or are running in HDR mode all the time?

[@bossmyk188]

Any settings for my setup? PS5 for gaming and Netflix for watching. Do I need to switch the settings everytime I use each mode?(gaming and watching)

[@tftcentral]

The settings are remembered within each preset once you’ve set them up. You could use expert bright mode for Netflix and then configure the tv to auto switch to game mode when it detects the PS5 is turned on. Then configure that game mode as directed in the video. The setting for that automatic switching should be in the tv settings menu somewhere under the hdmi controls 😀

[@julianuk3266]

i've just ordered a C4, do you think most of the settings still apply ? apart from perhaps selecting 144hz ?

[@tftcentral]

Some of the general principles should apply but things like brightness and colour controls will probably be different

[@rankoroz]

hdr in general desktop use look very weird to me, such as the desktop icons and text are not as good as in sdr, is that expected?

[@tftcentral]

Pretty normal. See here tftcentral.co.uk/articles/heres-why-you-should-only-enable-hdr-mode-on-your-pc-when-you-are-viewing-hdr-content

[@CengoDevrosu]

I need help. Apparently, SDR content is too dark on PS5 with my new LG C3. What can i do? Peak brightness is greyed out in game mode...

[@antoniocampione8831]

Hello, nice informative video here thanks! I’m quite confused on how the switching between these presets works. I will be mostly jumping from SDR general desktop use when working and SDR gaming. Am I supposed to manually open the tv settings and switch between the presets you showed in the video every single time? Is there any profile menu where I can save and handily load them at need? Or does the C3 automatically recognise whenever I load up a pc game to switch to the sdr gaming preset? Really confused here sorry

[@tftcentral]

No it should handle the switching automatically in these situations. Make sure instant game response is enabled on the screen and then when it detects you’ve started a game it will auto switch to the “game” preset mode, from whatever you were using before (eg expert bright mode). When you enable HDR in windows, it will auto switch to HDR mode too

[@antoniocampione8831]

@@tftcentral thanks a lot, will try

[@YSD1975]

I did the changes but game optimizer remains in "gaming" mode even in desktop PC for me, it doesnt seem to auotswitch between desktop and gaming mode.@@tftcentral

[@tftcentral]

@YSD1975 it’s fine to stay in game optimiser mode unless there’s specifically settings no longer available you wanted?

[@YSD1975]

I just wanted like you describe in the video, a mode for desktop and another one for gaming like i had with my old C9. Just cant figure out the reason its the same mode all the time. I´ll re-install my adrealine drivers, maybe thats the issue. @@tftcentral

[@АлександрЛин-р1д]

Thanks for this video! Are these settings suitable for Oled 42 C2 ?

[@tftcentral]

No, but we’ve got a video for that too kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKeQY6yGbLeoo9E

[@adoniramleon]

How about an LG C1 ?

[@tftcentral]

Sorry don’t have a video for that model

[@aboutvinn]

Hi there, any kind souls knows why HDR is not able to enable when I am under 3840 x 2160 (PC) but if I choose 3840 x 2160 (Ultra HD, HD, SD) I am able to enable HDR.

[@tftcentral]

That’s odd. Pretty certain we used the PC option during our testing and had no such problem

[@nibelungvalesti]

Warm 50 looks horrible on c3. 0 or even cool 5 looks much closer to normal monitor look, which is what people want for desktop use.

[@MMCXCIV]

Yes I also use color temperature 0.

[@RokuX51]

Got my C3 recently. And also not understanding all the recommendations for putting it on warm 50. Makes the picture not look that great. I been using warm 10 just to make it easier on the eyes but yea setting it at 0 looks the best and truest.

[@hayax]

It’s more because you’re used to a cool colour temperature as that’s what usually comes out of the box in computer monitors. D65K is a standard that is used basically everywhere for mastering, so your colours will be inaccurate. If it doesn’t bother you though you can obviously use a cool setting.

[@stan92x]

@@hayaxbut Snow Looks yellow then ?!? Cant be Right

[@agentfletcher]

This is really good advice for desktop usage. The picture just looked bad at warm 50 on PC. If using for a normal tv or also watching movies calibrate a separate input or video mode for that.

[@Leopz_00]

Hi, im gonna have to use 4:2:0 color settings because my gpu doesn't support hdmi 2.1. Do these settings still apply for this application?

[@tftcentral]

Yep. Unless you’re gaming a lot and actually reaching high frame rates in games at 4k I’d be tempted to stick with 4k 60Hz though and 444 chroma

[@scottish-atechreviews]

Will this be fine setting for gaming on Xbox series x and for movies and tv shows? Both SDR and HDR for both? I’m getting my 65 c3 tomorrow

[@tftcentral]

Yes the same settings should largely apply for other devices too 😀

[@scottish-atechreviews]

@@tftcentralthanks for the reply your video is very informative as I’ve never owned a lg before loving it so far! Amazing picture!

[@RedLineSim]

Hello, how come I’m not seen that Res in the bottom ? On the pc section I only see like 1280x740 etc don’t even have a 1920x1080 option …

[@RedLineSim]

I have a 3080 Ti and the cable I picked can support 4K at 120hz according to the supplier 8k at 60hz

[@tftcentral]

Try a graphics card driver update or reset maybe. Also see if you can select it via windows display settings instead of NVIDIA control panel perhaps

[@RedLineSim]

@@tftcentral ok I’ll give it a shot re update my gpu and tried in the windows display and same issue lol it’s just so weird those options are not coming up in the PC area

[@tftcentral]

@RedLineSim very odd but it suggests a pc or cable issue to me

[@Omi-7k]

I am getting mixed reviews. Do i need to mess with the service menu?

[@tftcentral]

Only if you wanted to disable ASBL but it’s not supposed to be a menu that’s accessible so carries some risks if you do. Discussed more here tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-dimming-confusion-apl-abl-asbl-tpc-and-gsr-explained

[@dinho0521]

Why do you kept 10 sharpness? i saw some settings video, many of them set it to 0 ... I would like to know the reason.

[@tftcentral]

Try it out. It just looked better imo on this model

[@definingslawek4731]

From what I can tell, 10 is actually 0 on this model. 0 is effectively adding a softening filter.

[@VFD4u]

Hi! Should I run the Windows HDR calibration tool before or after applying those settings? Or should I not run it at all? Thanks!

[@tftcentral]

Windows 11? If you’re going to use that then it’s best to select tone mapping as HGiG in the screen settings but apart from that all the same. I’d run that after setting the screen up

[@VFD4u]

@@tftcentral 🙏🙏

[@aim_qat]

thank you, is it fine for editing video, use the Gaming mode for Hights rate ?

[@tftcentral]

Well as it’s oled it’s never ideal for work with static elements if that’s your primary use, but can certainly handle it fine if you’re also using the screen with more general dynamic content. The screen size and the ability to use the 4K res without needing scaling give you a nice big area to work with which is great

[@aim_qat]

thank you @@tftcentral

[@juanblanco7898]

Hi! I'm really sorry to bother you with my questions yet again, but in case you may clear this up for me, I'll be hugely grateful. Am I getting it right that LG C3 set to Game Optimizer picture mode has lower input latency at 60 Hz than most OLED monitors that have it in the 12-15 ms range, like MSI's MPG 271QRX and MPG 321URX for example? And with it disabled (but with PC Mode enabled still?) it's basically the same (+/-2 ms) as with those monitors? Also, do I get it right that the color luminance difference between WOLED and QD-OLED is irrelevant under SDR at least, since peak brighter in this mode is lower than (or rather just at) the point at which it would become unattainable for the former by mixing the primaries without help from white subpixels? Or may this aspect show itself with secondary (CMY) colors still? Thank you for your amazing work!

[@tftcentral]

The C3 has a reasonably low input lag at 60Hz in Game Optimizer mode, and that's probably a reflection of it;s low overall refresh rate max (120Hz). Overall the lag on the C3 is very good for a TV we found. And for SDR applications, it's very likely that even the max SDR brightness could be achieved with an RGB additive approach, without needing to use the white pixel boost, that's likely only used for HDR and low APL % scenes. Although a QD-OLED screen could still look more colourful even in SDR thanks to the wider colour gamut, unless of course you're running an sRGB emulation for SDR.

[@juanblanco7898]

@@tftcentral Got it, thank you. Glad to know that I was able to figure the color luminance/volume issue for myself, though only thanks to your wonderful article on the matter. Thank you very much for all the research and educational work! Do I get it right that it's expected for displays with higher native refresh rates to generally have a lower input lag at low refresh rates VS displays with lower native refresh rates? With regards to input lag, I'm trying to confirm that I'm not misinterpreting you and the results for C3 and MSI's monitors are directly comparable, for two reasons: 1. As per RTings reviews, LG C3 has an input lag of ~11 Ms even in Game Optimizer mode with "Boost" enabled (which is a discrepancy that can be easily attributed to methodological differences). But at the same time the figures for MSI's models are almost identical to yours (14,5 Ms @ 60 Hz for MPG 271QRX and 13,5 Ms @ 60 Hz for MPG 321URX), which I find confusing. Per your testing the results are: MPG 321URX ~ 13,5 Ms @ 60 Hz MPG 271QRX ~ 14,4 Ms @ 60 Hz LG C3 ~ 13,1 Ms @ 60 Hz Outside of Game Optimizer mode + PC Mode LG C3 ~ 4,2 Ms @ 60 Hz Game Optimizer mode (Standard) LG C3 ~ 1,6 Ms @ 60 Hz Game Optimizer mode (Boost) While I would have expected for your and RTings results to differ, I would expect it to be in a consistent manner. 2. Again, as per RTings reviews, the difference between LG C2 and C3 in terms of input lag are less than 1 Ms, while you found that the input lag is meaningfully lower on C3 (same was stated at RTings, but only outside of Game Optimizer mode). Please, excuse me for referring heavily to RTings, but I'm just trying to make as much sense from all the available information I can get access to. Could you tell wether you measure input lag with VRR disabled or enabled, as I wasn't able to find any mention of that in your written reviews and the article on input lag measurements from your site. As I understand it, you don't include frame hold times in your input lag values, in contrast to RTings. This would explain the discrepancy in measured input lag figures for LG C3, as their ~10,4 figure alignes perfectly with your results after subtracting the 1/2 of the frame hold time (~8,4 Ms). But then the result for MSI's monitors don't add up. Since they should have been around 23 Ms per RTings by that logic. I'm not trying to learn about someone else's methodology from you, but rather get a former grasp on yours to try and figure out the explanation. Please, forgive me all the pestering. I'll do my best to do as much of research on other issues on which there's information to get elsewhere, via other sources, so as not to abuse your responsiveness and eagerness to help any longer.

[@tftcentral]

@juanblanco7898 we generally test lag with VRR enabled as it’s the more common user scenario, but it rarely makes any difference in our measurements anyway. Rtings often have some very different results to ours and other sites, but I don’t know their methodology and obv can only vouch for the figures we have measured

[@juanblanco7898]

@@tftcentral Thank you, that helps! As I understand it, RTings have been taking measurements with VRR disabled for some time now. It seems like that doesn't make a meaningful difference. Thankfully, as I'm not planning to use VRR due to the flickering issue. Now that I've taken a look at their review of 42" LG C4, I think it all mainly comes down to integrating half of the frame hold time in their values. When subtracting those the results are within a margin of error from yours. Unless there were tangible improvements in this regard from C3 to C4 due to an upgraded image processor, which seems unlikely to me. This is encouraging, as I now may somewhat confidently count this as yet another advantage for C4 over MSI's QD-OLEDs for my potential use cases and applications. Thank you very much yet again! 🙏🏻

[@juanblanco7898]

@tftcentral Thank you, that helps! As I understand it, RTings have been taking measurements with VRR disabled for some time now. Thankfully, it seems like that doesn't make a meaningful difference most of the time and, what's most important, in this particular case with C3/C4. Now that I've taken a look at their review of 42" LG C4, I think it all mainly comes down to integrating half of the frame hold time in their input lag values. When subtracting those the results are within a margin of error from yours. That is unless there were tangible improvements in this regard from C3 to C4 due to an upgraded image processor. This is encouraging, as I now may somewhat confidently count this as yet another advantage for C4 over MSI's QD-OLEDs for my potential use cases and applications. Now there's only one issue left to be concerned about, which is grayscale compression with brightness adjustment. I don't know whether this is something you had looked into and I shouldn't test your patience any more, so I'll try to direct my research elsewhere. Thank you very much for everything yet again! 🙏🏻 Have a great week.

[@monkeybusiness2204]

I've got the same TV, LG C3 42in. Using it as monitor. My GPU is RTX4090. Under Resolution > PC, why am I not getting the 4k, 120Hz selection?

[@tftcentral]

Might be your cable. Try via windows display settings instead of NVIDIA control panel too

[@Low__expectations]

This video was simply outstanding; thank you, sir. I made almost all your setting suggestions but I don't think my Radeon RX570 can do 120hz or HDR at 4k, after doing a bit of googling. :(

[@tftcentral]

A great excuse to treat yourself to a new card 😀

[@Low__expectations]

@@tftcentral I like how you think. 👍

[@OGUfohunter]

Dynamic tone mapping needs to be on HGIG not on or off! Very important for games

[@tftcentral]

Only where the input source supports it. If your game includes an HDR configuration tool and supports HGiG then yes, use that option.

[@rotexen2384]

why do you leave sharpness at 10 for the C3 and 0 for the C2?

[@tftcentral]

That just looked visually optimal in our testing. Feel free to experiment

[@reerden91]

At the native resolution, everything up until 10 has no effect. At lower resolution edge smoothing is applied. So it doesn't matter unless you feed the TV a non native resolution.

[@Harme82]

Thank you for the good guide!

[@rycmrc]

Why are the desktop icons too big?

[@tftcentral]

Likely you’ve got windows scaling set to something like 200%. Check windows display settings for that and adjust accordingly

[@regardtpotgieter9066]

Game optimiser does not appear in picture mode

[@irish7611]

In game optimizer … how do u change to FPS … is there something I gotta turn off to unlock it. I’m on ps5

[@tftcentral]

Sorry what do you mean by change to fps?

[@irish7611]

@@tftcentral in the game optimizer menu u can change the game mode depending to what game you’re playing. Default is Standard but they also have sports or FPS for first person shooter like call of duty or Fortnite. I’ve seen some reviews where it’s switched but for some reason mine is grayed out.

[@tftcentral]

Those just have different preset levels for colours, sharpness etc. if you’re using the settings in this video for optimal accuracy, you’d prob want to stick with the standard mode. The others will skew what you’re doing 😀

[@David_E-88]

I have connected my laptop with RTX 3060 mobile GPU to my LG C3 using a CLUB 3D ultra high speed HDMI 2.1 cable, and when I changed the rate to 120hz the input signal was lost. Is it a faulty cable?

[@tftcentral]

Possibly an incompatible cable if it’s not an ultra high speed certified HDMI cable.

[@Pedro-fo4et]

How i "trigger HDR" on windows? I don't get that

[@tftcentral]

It’s within windows display settings, an option to turn HDR on or off

[@jcalof]

How can I access 4K on my new oled 65” lg do I require a different plug out of my 4090 rtx?

[@tftcentral]

You’d have to use the HDMI port from your pc. Make sure you’ve got a suitable cable. And in NVIDIA control panel you might need to scroll down the resolution list in to the pc section

[@jcalof]

@@tftcentral thank you so much will look into the cable

[@jcalof]

@@tftcentralso I bought my cable but resident evil 4 seems like it says hdr is not in windows 11

[@NC-cf7kl]

My game color depth in hdr looks black and white at 55, setting it to 100 brings color back but reds look washed, help pls

[@tftcentral]

Do you mean when HDR is enabled and the screen is running in HDR mode but you’re looking at windows desktop and general applications?

[@NC-cf7kl]

@tftcentral both games and desktop will look almost black and white, I see others have game color depth set to 55 in the game optimizer settings and it looks normal in terms of color but when I say black and white I really mean it lol, you can see color but its super faint unless I turn it to 90 or up.

[@tftcentral]

@NC-cf7kl that’s very odd. Makes me think there’s some other setting somewhere causing an issue. But HDR mode should only be enabled when you’re going to view actual HDR content and games. Otherwise turn that off in windows, that will prob help

[@NC-cf7kl]

@tftcentral it seems it works normally in 1440p, but when set to 4k the colors pretty much disappear.

[@tftcentral]

@NC-cf7kl weird. What graphics card have you got?

[@rovosunny1687]

Thanks what does dark room mode do on game optimiser?

[@ishiemahomed]

Adjusts the brightness of the screen

[@YSD1975]

Brigness 41 means 120 nits according to video. If i target 100 nits, does that mean Brighness of 32 with your settings? Thanx again for a great job, nice picture with minimum changes.

[@tftcentral]

Somewhere around that should be about 100 nits yes

[@robertorebe7246]

Hi, I own a GPU radeon RX 580, I can't see the option for 120hz, but only 60hz, what video card do you use for this TV? Could my GPU be obsolete? Thank you.

[@tftcentral]

I don’t believe it has HDMI 2.1 and so won’t be able to support above 60Hz as a result

[@robertorebe7246]

@@tftcentral Thank you very much, could you recommend me a suitable GPU?

[@canny7x]

Having one issue with my new C3... While watching Disney + (from my PC) the FPS increased to 120 - 122hz and the screen blanked out saying it couldn't recognize the input signal. So How does one 'limit' the FPS?

[@tftcentral]

Strange. Does disabling Gsync or FreeSync from your graphics card resolve that?

[@canny7x]

@@tftcentral Yes, disabling GSync for the Desktop seems to have resolved the Issue. In games I have the refresh rate limited to 118hz via the Nvidia control panel.

[@tftcentral]

Ok it must oddly be using that. Maybe there’s a way to leave Gsync active in control panel but disable it for certain apps / video but if it’s working ok now with your workaround that’s prob fine 👍

[@Alfaris81]

Hello, need ur help in ur opinion which better lg C3 77inch for 3500$ or lg G2 77INCH for 3800$?

[@tftcentral]

Oh not sure. We’ve not tested either but I’d probably try and find out how peak brightness is on each as that’s likely one of the main differences in performance to worry about

[@NB_NB_NB]

G2

[@leonardobuzinskas5433]

Hi, I'm using a C3 as monitor for a week, it's great overall, I'm just getting blue tint effect on the borders due to the view angle I think, because when I move my head it changes. Is it normal? Anything I can do to avoid it? I feel white uniformity is pretty bad.

[@tftcentral]

Don’t think there’s any way to avoid it. Tinting on the edges does affect some of those panels unfortunately

[@leonardobuzinskas5433]

@@tftcentral is it worth trying a replacement or they are usually all like that?

[@tftcentral]

@leonardobuzinskas5433 if it’s a problem during usage then you could try a replacement. It’s the kind of thing that could vary between samples. May be worth running a couple of pixel and screen clean cycles in case that helps at all first

[@TheManCaveMike]

Been using my LG c3 for 500 hours and learned a few things here ty!!!

[@xhobv02]

What about burn-in? Did you notice something?

[@TheManCaveMike]

@@xhobv02 almost 2500 hours now and zero burn in. I do have a 5 year warranty, but I got mine in August of 2023 and zero issues so far.

[@oldtimer666]

i recently bought c3 and using with rtx 2080 super, im facing a weird issue where my screen appears like it has a curve in the center like the windows appear to be curved in the center even the task bar like a arch. I dont know how to explain it its like that effect you used to get in old crt tvs when you used to plug your laptop on them it used to bend the picture overall from the middle can anyone help me how to fix it? Or maybe some link where it explains? I had a samsung odessey g9 before this

[@tftcentral]

It’s possible you’re just getting used to a flat screen again after using a highly curved model before. That’s very common when moving from curved to flat. How long have you been using it? And have you stopped using the Samsung monitor now completely?

[@oldtimer666]

I used it for 2 years and sold it to get the c3 55inch since my viewing distance increased due to my speaker placement and i couldnt read anything on the ultrawide properly. Also im finding the brightness to be a bit lower on the c3 than my g9, what if i crank it up all the way to 100 all the time will it decrease the tv life ?@@tftcentral

[@cloud_slash6484]

hello everyone. thanks for the vid but when I go to "PC" I don't have hight resolution. only 1360x768 or less. did I miss something ? thanks

[@tftcentral]

In your graphics card settings? What card have you got?

[@cloud_slash6484]

@@tftcentral yes, I have a rtx 3080

[@tftcentral]

@cloud_slash6484 and you can’t set anything above 1360 x 768? I’d do a graphics card driver reinstall and update. Check you’ve got a suitable HDMI 2.1 cable, and maybe also check windows display settings instead if using NVIDIA control panel to set the resolution

[@cloud_slash6484]

its was the hdmi cable, now its ok thanks ! @@tftcentral

[@TomKingX]

I don't understand, we don't need to set clarity to 0 anymore? because on the LG CX TV everyone was shouting what they should)

[@tftcentral]

Try both to see which looks better to you

[@TomKingX]

@@tftcentral just tell me what is better and I will use it) HD TV Test proved to everyone that 0 is better than 10, at the same time many put 10 and say that this is correct if this setting was set by default by LG. 🫡

[@TomKingX]

@@tftcentral ???🙏

[@alexbronnings1906]

Thank you!!! I couldn't find that "PC" option!! I didn't know where it was hidden. So thanks!! :-)

[@zebedeerotten533]

what pc option

[@alexbronnings1906]

@@zebedeerotten533 to get the special quality mode if you use it as a PC monitor. 👍

[@alexbronnings1906]

@@zebedeerotten533 in the HDMI settings, you can choose "PC" as an entry and the display on the screen becomes better.

[@AceBillions]

This is the best video ever, I was worried that there won’t be RGB signal acceptance by C3 from my 3090 PC

[@SmoothSportsGaming]

Will you lose some enhancers like interpolation, Contrast enhancer etc....if you put your TV's input and your Windows 10 /3060 T.I Desktop in PC mode? Do you lose anything or is every feature still there? I'm not a pro gamer so i care more about the picture and the added fake frames from interpretation. I'm getting this TV in a few days.

[@tftcentral]

Most of the settings depend on which preset you use, like expert bright mode vs one of the others. Expert bright will give you access to the most. I think you lose access to some by using the pc input mode label, but if there’s anything you wanted, use a different input label. Although note you will lose the 444 chroma support doing that

[@SmoothSportsGaming]

@@tftcentral That kinda blows. I wish there was a freestyle setting. I want that 4444 color but not at the expense of Interpolation. Thanks for the info.

[@tftcentral]

@smoothrealism8259 I’m not sure off the top of my head which things are blocked in pc mode, def try it as you might be able to use both of those 🤞

[@SmoothSportsGaming]

@@tftcentral 🤞 I'm now looking into Hdmi cords...man.... I swear everything is complicated and takes hours of research so you'll get the right functioning product. Getting a new TV is like setting up a wedding 😅

[@tftcentral]

Haha yeah just without the bride nagging you about it 😉 just look for a cable certified as ultra high speed, and you should be safe

[@sebastiansmolik8750]

This settings are for ps5 as well or just for pc ?

[@tftcentral]

Yeah most should be the same and fine. You might want to use HDR HGiG mode and then run through the consoles HDR calibration steps afterwards though

[@sebastiansmolik8750]

My C3 doesn't have Auto Power save mode and Expert mode 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@tftcentral]

@sebastiansmolik8750 have you definitely set the input to PC, and are you running in SDR mode and not HDR?

[@Omi-7k]

Hi there, great content. I just picked today the c3 42 for gaming purposes (4090). Do I need to perform the hdr calibration for win 11 as well? If so, any settings there I should consider. And when playing games that support hdr or sdr only, do I need to manually switch from hdr to sdr or will it auto select. SUB EARNED.

[@tftcentral]

You could run through the windows 11 HDR calibration process but do it after you’ve configured the screen settings I would. Should be fairly simple process and no recommendations really for that. Some games will auto switch the screen to HDR mode but some will need you to enable HDR in windows too, but either way that will trigger the screen to move in to HDR mode, you won’t need to change anything on the tv as long as you have it set to the relevant preset mode

[@rhyshunt3239]

​@@tftcentraldoes it support 5.1 uncompressed and 7.1 uncompressed through the TV speakers?

[@Shinobifoxx]

I have this TV, but no Expert Bright Mode :/

[@tftcentral]

Have you got HDR enabled in windows?

[@Shinobifoxx]

@tftcentral I do, yup . I got it to a good looking state with your other tips, but sadly I don't have 2.1 on my PC so I'm stuck at 60 for now .

[@tftcentral]

That’s why expert bright isn’t showing then. That’s only in SDR mode. I would recommend only enabling HDR in windows when you’re viewing actual HDR content. Then set the screen up as per the video

[@Shinobifoxx]

@tftcentral ahh I see . Thanks ! I shall retry the tutorial later 😊

[@tftcentral]

@Shinobifoxx no worries 😌