BEST SPEAKER You've Ever Heard? The One with the 801 D4 Signature

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Andrew Robinson

Andrew Robinson

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@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
📌Considering the B&W D4 Signature? Find them here bit.ly/4aH9d8B 🔌Watch our REVIEW kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXvdm5ejrJilp8k to get caught up on today’s UNPLUGGED! 😀Thank you for watching! If you enjoyed this video, please hit the 👍Like button! 🙏 Please stay on topic and be respectful. 🚫No links, self-promotion, or personal info.
@richardvannoy1198
@richardvannoy1198 3 ай бұрын
Some people would spend 60 or 70k on a car without blinking twice. Like you mentioned, everyone has (or should have) a passion that they’re willing to go wild with.
@jackkennedy9475
@jackkennedy9475 3 ай бұрын
Have 802’s good speakers, bright in the high range probably due to material used but the speaker does draw you in and it’s time correct but not phase correct. After hearing a time and phase correct speaker I plan on keeping my 802’s for audio/video system but using time and phase correct with my primary stereo system.
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 2 ай бұрын
Wisdom Audio p4i speakers (sound quality), Wilson Audio Chronosonic and Alexa for BIG size. I have the GoldenEar BRX (ribbon AMT tweeters) which comes pretty darn close to the Wisdom Audio (ribbon planar tweeters). streaming=Apple Music lossless
@stevenoconnor5693
@stevenoconnor5693 Ай бұрын
They have demos on KZbin of the mirror phonic system from Westinghouse that you mentioned and yes, I did take the time to look it up the demos I heard I have to give it to you are fucking amazing. You are very correct on true to life and it is amazing that given these are mono. How phenomenal when put together they really are holy shit quite impressive and amazing that they were so far ahead of their time it’s just that their size is obviously not really an option for anybody’s house or even basement for that matter. You would have to have a mansion for these things 14 feet tall shit that’s crazy but nonetheless quite impressive and thank you for sharing your story about them too I never heard of them or even thought of them until you’d mentioned them pretty cool
@sakipango9899
@sakipango9899 28 күн бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I wish to watch you review the B&o beolab 50
@TheMirolab
@TheMirolab 3 ай бұрын
Why is it "cool" when someone buys a $20k motorcycle or a $70k sports car, but considered excessive to put that amount of money into an audio system? I can enjoy my audio system for many more hours than I'd enjoy a vehicle.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
BINGO. My system is almost never off, whereas my car sits parked 90% of the time. Car cost more, gets used less, and depreciates just as much (or more).
@stevenoconnor5693
@stevenoconnor5693 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviewsgood you had a system that impacted you that much to be the standard.
@stevenoconnor5693
@stevenoconnor5693 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviewstry the Ps audio floor standing speakers there are different tiers may make for a really good tiered review for a series of speakers that could be for many levels of consumer
@stevenoconnor5693
@stevenoconnor5693 3 ай бұрын
Nice review conversation keep these videos coming
@RahzAlGhul
@RahzAlGhul 3 ай бұрын
I think it’s because you can’t buy a new car for under $2k but you can buy good speakers for under $2k and there is a law of diminishing returns for speakers much more than there is for a GT3 vs a Corolla. What our ears can hear is only so much difference vs vision vs what we feel in or get from a car.
@OriginalDon7
@OriginalDon7 3 ай бұрын
When it comes to room treatment, my philosophy is simple. Treat your room well, it’s part of the equation. Optimize the sound as best you can and focus on the real trouble areas. But perfect is the enemy of the good. My listening experience and my listening room is my sanctuary. I enjoy the aesthetic components just as much. It adds to my listening experience to have a comfortable couch that looks good; it adds to my listening experience to be surrounded by my large indoor plants; it adds to my listening experience to have a nice coffee table where I can have a nice cup of coffee and snacks while I listen. It’s a whole experience; and I will never allow my obsession with the perfect sound to come in the way of my love for feeling comfortable and at home in my oasis.
@jayphotoart1941
@jayphotoart1941 3 ай бұрын
i am a regular viewer and I never comment. This time I just want to say Andrew, you gave me the confidence for enjoying my system. I also don’t have all the acoustic and all the “tricks” and “gadgets”. I used to listen to advices and made my room “crazy”. I just don’t want to be missing something to have worst sound. Now because of you. My mind is free! Thank you Andrew!
@Norman-bone13
@Norman-bone13 3 ай бұрын
I am loving these Unplugged discussions. Great forum for this type of discourse. I feel the trading of impressions back and forth is a great format. It is helpful in giving one a broader picture of the product being discussed. Thanks so much. I really enjoyed the review and Unplugged on the Wharfedale Super Dentons. 👍🏼🎶
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
We appreciate you watching the shows; it means a lot.
@WardoUSA
@WardoUSA 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think I have ever seen Andrew laugh so casually and deeply about those B&W’s. Good stuff!
@jaymac774
@jaymac774 3 ай бұрын
What a beautifully constructed video the fact I can watch a video about a set of speakers that cost more then my house and be thoroughly entertained and will quite frankly never own, shows the high level of execution and perspective that you place in your videos. And for that I thank you.
@Prerich45
@Prerich45 3 ай бұрын
@C Butti i used to paint, when I look at a painting, i look at it as a whole and then i examine minute details such as style, brush strokes, and technique. You can see the forest and admire the individual trees that make up that forest.😊
@Caleb_Denison
@Caleb_Denison 3 ай бұрын
Key Andrew quote: “it even irks you when other people say ‘ well, ya know, you can do that for berba derpa der’” Truer words have never been spoken on KZbin, or anywhere else, for that matter.
@Caleb_Denison
@Caleb_Denison 3 ай бұрын
I’ll add that KZbin’s automatic closed caption transcription system failed us on this very quote. It’s a shame, really.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA
@Caleb_Denison
@Caleb_Denison 3 ай бұрын
It gave up on the B in berba and never looked back.
@Caleb_Denison
@Caleb_Denison 3 ай бұрын
Anyway, my job of making the most meaningful contribution to the conversation is done here. You’re all very welcome.
@KristiWright
@KristiWright 3 ай бұрын
@@Caleb_Denison He says that in real life all the time. I'd give anything for a simple "blah, blah, blah." :)
@drumsac3004
@drumsac3004 3 ай бұрын
The vintage western electric stuff is sold by Deja Vu Audio in Virginia. He’s Vietnamese I believe. They are still in business. The best DAC you will ever hear is through them…called the Aldo Dac. Paired with their western electric tube amps, the sound is the most magical anyone will ever hear.
@gnd144
@gnd144 3 ай бұрын
Your reviews are interesting and fun to watch. It has improve over the years, thank-you both.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching them over the years!
@IanMacDonald-u1v
@IanMacDonald-u1v 3 ай бұрын
Bravo! Encore! Loved this! Cannot tell you how much I appreciate your no BS approach to this hobby. Please please please continue with the high end and budget reviews. Love both your comments and Andrew your experience and knowledge. You take this seriously and it shows. Plus you two are fun.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, we really appreciate it. I believe there's room for everyone, every budget, and every need, and I really want our channel to reflect that.
@IanMacDonald-u1v
@IanMacDonald-u1v 3 ай бұрын
You do succeed at that. And from what I see, this can be one tough crowd too. Great job as always.
@murraycampbell1548
@murraycampbell1548 3 ай бұрын
Hi from Vancouver! My first breath taking experience listening to a speaker in a store showroom was back in the 90’s with the Wilson Grand Slams. They were playing piano and sounded like one was in the room. The next time was about 10 years ago in a store showroom with the big YG Sonyas. They were certainly impressive. Cheers!
@Boxkerp
@Boxkerp 3 ай бұрын
Every time you guys show those Mcintosh pieces I become like the fly that can't get away from the blue zapper "Don't go into the light!" "I can't help help it. It's so beautiful." I look at those things and the world around me just goes away.
@gpapa31
@gpapa31 3 ай бұрын
IMHO the review of the year. Thank you for making it happen.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching it!
@fonkenful
@fonkenful 3 ай бұрын
So far, you mean; there’s a whole 6 months left, and scores of audiophile dragons yet to be slayed.😊
@alexhartman4447
@alexhartman4447 3 ай бұрын
I see the price of Humble Pie has gone up. You're absolutely right in that sometimes you need to reset that bar for the lower 95% of the products that people CAN reasonably attain, and know that those "top 3" are still there to benchmark against. Much appreciated with the honesty and work put into this.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! We appreciate you tuning in!
@rsolsjo
@rsolsjo 3 ай бұрын
You guys answered my question! Thank you. Was just sitting down for my Friday evening viewing and my name pops up. ❤
@mike-pw8hi
@mike-pw8hi 2 ай бұрын
your videos were always great tbh, but your recent videos have become incredible
@TheMirolab
@TheMirolab 3 ай бұрын
I love the older bulldog look too! As an owner of Matrix 801's, I really love the single 12" woofer aesthetic.
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 3 ай бұрын
23:27 most people still haven’t put their speakers in the best position to perform. Absolutely correct Wilson takes the time to correctly place and set up the sound to work in a realistic room .
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
Setup is 90-95% of one's experience.
@tagtag-connected5263
@tagtag-connected5263 3 ай бұрын
Great speakers. Standard 801D4s blew me away so can’t imagine the signatures. They look much better in person and could not believe the speakers didn’t have a sub. They cranked out near accurate bass. Price is subjective.
@aaronharmon04
@aaronharmon04 2 ай бұрын
I have 801 D4s. They are tight. They are not at all too bright, at least not to my taste. I use room correction, but even with it turned off, they sound amazing.
@JCOTV
@JCOTV 3 ай бұрын
It gave me goosebumps when you told that old speaker story.
@jmax5105
@jmax5105 2 ай бұрын
Such a fun video to watch and I'm so happy for you both to be able to have these in your house! I've wanted / lusted after some 801 or 802s for years and years and years - but they are WAY out of my budget / price range - and I know that.... but man they're beautiful in every way. For me, I'm perfectly happy sitting in front of my Polk R700s (thanks for your reviews on those!!!) that fit into my budget and have the ability to put a smile on my face every time. They are no B&W 800 series, for sure, but they are what I could afford.... and taking that into consideration, I love what I have. It's still so fun to see these B&Ws though and STILL have those wishful thoughts. Keep up the great content. Thank you BOTH for all your work on this channel!
@barneyrubble9309
@barneyrubble9309 3 ай бұрын
Guys, you NEED to get the full Steinway lyngdorf model S 2+2 system in for test.
@MrBonger88
@MrBonger88 2 ай бұрын
That setup is insanely impressive
@hificave
@hificave 3 ай бұрын
I Totally get the HT with these. Its actually quite surprising the first time we experience a movie with just a high quality hifi 2 channel setup, it actually feels… real and so engaging thanks to the soundstage and insanely good tonal balance.
@ericgardner5548
@ericgardner5548 2 ай бұрын
It's only bright because the recorded material is bright, these speakers will reflect every good and bad in a recording, very revealing.
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 3 ай бұрын
🙋‍♂️ GLAD TO SEE KRISTI ,SHARING HER OPINION AS ALWAYS OPEN AND HONEST 💚💚💚
@MrX-zz2vk
@MrX-zz2vk 2 ай бұрын
When Kristi takes over from the very beginning and is THIS emphatic about a home audio product, you know you've done well. You chose well, Andrew. You chose well.
@ForecastCallsForDom
@ForecastCallsForDom 2 ай бұрын
Continuing to enjoy the new format. I like the tight review videos and the new unplugged videos that have room to breath, allow for Kristy's feedback 😊 and an opportunity to respond to comments on the review video.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 2 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@CButti-x1s
@CButti-x1s 3 ай бұрын
Good morning Andrew and Kristi. More great discussion. Very honored to be a 3x comment contributor to Unplugged. Hoping to be the Unplugged question GOAT LOL! Just to clarify my comment with regard to poor recordings, I wasn't implying artist record their music poorly intentionally, I'm referring to lots of records, typically older stuff such as 70's/80's rock, pop, etc that is frankly very poorly mastered but still music I listen to and enjoy. On a separate note I think you might find interesting is that according to David Price, who reviewed these speaker at B&W HQ, B&W used a Michi P5 and M8 mono blocks (1080W into 8 ohms/1800W into 4 ohms) as their reference system hooked up to them. Hoping those KEF Blades are just lost in the mail and show up someday for review! Thanks for the great work and looking forward to this Sunday's review.
@wishbone1138
@wishbone1138 3 ай бұрын
The Beolab 90 is now $150K. Yes you read that right, this year saw a price hike that seriously broke my heart. I won’t go more into the price unless someone wants to discuss. This is in my top 3 speakers, but never heard them in my own space (who has except the few owners?). I’d love your review of the 50 or 90s. I’ve never cared for the 50s, the 21s would be my top choice at much less over them. How do you two feel about shows? Just went to my first one and saw some really cool stuff, not sure I heard anything that blew me away. Is that a space and limited time tuning issue?
@dilshaddealwis6543
@dilshaddealwis6543 2 ай бұрын
When I got my B&W 802’s 26 years ago I was blown away. They are still enjoyed infinitely by my sister and we experience endless hours of listenning pleasure after all these years despite my moving on to Wilson Audio. B&W’s are an un-disputed value in my humble opinion.
@fatdoi003
@fatdoi003 2 ай бұрын
💯 still enjoying my 801S2
@Topnikko
@Topnikko Ай бұрын
Value?
@tombillard5264
@tombillard5264 3 ай бұрын
La Scalas were the one speaker that spooked me even over KZbin and kanto desktops with its realism in the vocals listening to sara mclachlan.
@MarkMiller-i8q
@MarkMiller-i8q 3 ай бұрын
Perceptive comment about people having, in some form, their own B&W D4 Signature speaker. So true, and it could be anything from a suit of clothes to a bicycle, car or that ultimate 1911 .45 handgun tricked out with all the bells and whistles. To splurge or not to splurge? That is the question that most of us ask at some point in our lives, and then we do, if only once.
@DarrelJohnson
@DarrelJohnson 3 ай бұрын
Love the room treatment rant! Absolute perfection. Keep up the great work!
@netster
@netster 3 ай бұрын
24:22 I’m glad I watched this video. Every time I think about room treatment, it makes my brain hurt. I keep thinking the room is bad, and it takes away my enjoyment of movies and music.
@ajay55556
@ajay55556 10 күн бұрын
Truely agree a good 2 channel speakers does not require a center speaker. I always thought center speaker was to compensate for poor main speakers
@randolphblack2554
@randolphblack2554 3 ай бұрын
Good afternoon, Kristi and Andrew. You have the unenviable job of presenting reviews without caveats. I trust your honest presentations and I am not going to waste my time looking for hidden room treatments when such endeavors are futile. I base my knowledge of my listening room upon experience with how my speakers should sound to me. If there is an acoustic anomaly then I shall apply experience to rectify it. Keep up the good work and while I am happy with the way my system sounds I am happy enjoying your channel for what you provide. Thank you.
@ystebadvonschlegel3295
@ystebadvonschlegel3295 3 ай бұрын
Have dreamed of a top end set of B&W speakers with McIntosh amplification from 20+ years. Still dreaming. Enjoyed it.
@adamlink7561
@adamlink7561 3 ай бұрын
My thoughts are on room treatment, Kristi hit on the live music angle, if you see the same band in 3 different venues you will get 3 different sounds and probably none of them are bad enough to leave. I have 2 different rooms I can listen in my house and get 2 different sounds and I enjoy them both. If it sounded like crap I would change it. It makes sense that you would treat your room, it’s your job. I don’t know why people make such a big deal out of this.
@mgbguy20
@mgbguy20 3 ай бұрын
Loved this video. Especially the section on room treatments.
@Harry-Giles
@Harry-Giles 3 ай бұрын
Great questions in this one. It’s fun to compare these aspirational speakers. Would love for you to get some Beolab 50s or Wilsons.
@ilunga146
@ilunga146 3 ай бұрын
The 801 Matrix was "My 801," in the sense you mean (around 10:00). I couldn't afford $5000 in 1997, so I bought the 805 Matrix instead. It made too many of my CDs sound horrible. Way too revealing in the upper midrange. After a series of changes, including having tinnitus starting in 1998, I'm a somewhat more mid-fi listener since then. I'd still love to hear those 801s you're listening to now. And I love both the design and the nifty blue color. LOVE THEM.
@andymaleh
@andymaleh 5 күн бұрын
The Western Electric vintage system from the 30’s made me think of the newest Klipsch heritage offering, the Jubilee, which are 2-way full-range horn loaded speakers. Every review I saw as a video about them had the reviewer raving about them as being “perfect speakers”. I would look forward to your review of them even if I don’t believe they’d fit in your usual review room.
@stevenm8429
@stevenm8429 3 ай бұрын
Love love love this review! thank you both. I have the klipsch 8000 F and love them and thank you for your videos .I'm a rock and roll old school guy lol .
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 3 ай бұрын
I wish Wilson would send you a pair of Sabrina X, Sasha, or the new Watt Puppy’s. I really enjoyed this follow up segment to add more context to the prior review. Very helpful discussion!
@tylerflores4761
@tylerflores4761 3 ай бұрын
Damn!!! I was waiting to see the review on the Anthem Str, wouldve been nice to see 200 watts and room correction on these.
@maxpower78-15
@maxpower78-15 3 ай бұрын
I wanna echo something Kristi mentioned. My Klipsch RF7 llls arent in the same ballpark as these. But for me, they were pricey and special. A decent speaker can be totally adequate in a home theater. But my RF7s are truly special as the front channels of my theater. Couldnt believe how much better a “musical” speaker performed in my setup.
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 3 ай бұрын
Good afternoon ☕️ from Toronto. I was very intrigued with the OG review..nicely done This follow up is fabulous. I love these speakers..by I’m thinking they do require a very upscale source and power chain . Have a great weekend 🍻
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
Upscale source....maybe. Definitely need a good amplifier! Thanks for joining us!
@mybrandnewfunk
@mybrandnewfunk 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for another awesome sincere review. I appreciate the various perspective from budget to hi end to sound, room treatment, etc. Such a wonderful well rounded chat. One day…😊
@robertgruber982
@robertgruber982 2 ай бұрын
You might be interested in listening to some of Devon Turnbull's systems. He's really into the Western Electric sound and builds some really amazing systems. Had the opportunity to listen to one of his creations at a gallery in New York that had set up a listening room and it was next level sound. He makes some consumer DIY speakers as well. Not really something to review but just to compare to your Western Electric magic moment.
@anthonyfacchini6485
@anthonyfacchini6485 3 ай бұрын
Great episode with lots of good info. Thank you. I’d love to have a pair of La Scalas. That’s my dream. But like you said, don’t necessarily need it as I’m ok with what I have in what my space allows. But I still hope for that day.
@richardardern171
@richardardern171 3 ай бұрын
Really appreciated the conversation in this video. It keeps on adding to my education:)
@LeezahB
@LeezahB 3 ай бұрын
I’m here! Just finished watching the review! Sounds like an amazing experience to hear them. The “biggest” loudspeakers I have heard are the KEF Blades at Best Buy, and they were so impressive but a bit cold (glacial) for me!! But they were pretty incredible! I wonder how those would compare to these B&W D4 Signatures.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
So glad to see you, Leezah! Hope your Friday is off to a great start. I haven't heard the Blades yet, but I can imagine how they sound based on my experience with the R Series. I'm not sure if the look of the Blade is for me, but I still want to get a pair in for review.
@LeezahB
@LeezahB 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviewsthat would be awesome!
@CaBdosdos
@CaBdosdos 3 ай бұрын
Have Dali send you a set of Kore. Lord those sound amazing.
@mike-pw8hi
@mike-pw8hi 2 ай бұрын
i heard the 803 d4 and i like them but my personal favourite is the founder 120h. when i first saw the 803 i got to admit Andrew was right about their amazing finishes. the 800 series has the est finishes and the 700 series bowers are also downright beautiful speakers. i know the appearance are not everything but dang they are both nice. paradigm has a more neutral sound and i like that. i wish i could afford to buy the 803 and 120 h and use them based on what i am listening to because that incredible. both speakers and brands are just different and they are both great
@pdj49
@pdj49 3 ай бұрын
Just curious, is there a reason that Kristi doesn't appear on camera? I think it would be much nicer to see her while she is talking.
@P2Feener305
@P2Feener305 2 ай бұрын
Probably because she doesn’t do this for clout just to provide information.
@MilGrip76
@MilGrip76 2 ай бұрын
Being on camera is a different level of accountability. She's a commenter, not a reviewer, for a reason, right?
@drummingdrumtech9642
@drummingdrumtech9642 3 ай бұрын
26:23 The facts are there. Look at a studio, if room treatment is all that’s needed, than why would they spend 10s to 100s of thousands on the monitors too. And some of those speakers that they have sound amazing quality in normal living spaces, without a room that sound like an anechoic chamber. As we have seen on this channel, some speakers sound better in real room, vs a completely dead room.
@paulhovenga4138
@paulhovenga4138 2 ай бұрын
This is a video that hits on my experiences as well. Going from some very expensive floor-standing speakers to restoring some Altec Flamenco speakers, and wanting nothing from the previous, has been a rewarding and enlightening adventure. The Kef Blade though, is something you might be more proactive in getting a pair. If Blade 2, team them with some subs in your large space. I was more than impressed with them in a friends system. Nice work on the video, and your experience shines through! Bravo....
@BobbyTwoTimes
@BobbyTwoTimes 3 ай бұрын
The honestly is flowing. Atta boy, Andrew!
@raphaelmeillat8527
@raphaelmeillat8527 3 ай бұрын
Great video guys! Love this format. Mixing your take and exchange with Kristi and including viewers' takes and questions... It's an amazing format. Well done guys!
@993isgawd
@993isgawd 2 ай бұрын
All I can say is that I'm sort of glad that my hearing isn't nearly as good as it once was. As a result, chasing superb SQ isn't anywhere close to being a priority as it was in my younger years, and my retirement fund and its general future healthiness is extremely thankful for that. 👍😉
@Wozzaatwozza
@Wozzaatwozza 3 ай бұрын
I agree on your comments on recordings. Opinions are psycology, sound waves are physics, A friend has Martin Logan’s that when they shine, but some recordings I’ve heard and psychologically assigned values of fantastic, don’t sound fantastic on his system, according to “MY” psychology. I love the 801s, almost purchased a pair of the first release, then almost D1s but really had my heart on the previous tardis version with 15’ sub. Instead of buying speakers I bout a hot tub and KTM motorbike and an expensive 3 month holiday. Anyway, I purchased the Polk LS800 which were inspired by the 801 D4’s but less money. Thanks team ❤
@roccobruno8027
@roccobruno8027 3 ай бұрын
If it's at all possible it would be nice to hear your opinion on Magnepan, Diptyque, Martin Logan electrostatic speakers...
@markwilliford7471
@markwilliford7471 3 ай бұрын
I agree with 95% of what you have said about these speakers based on my 802D4 ownership experience. I do believe a very large hard surface between the speakers does have an effect. If you’ve done a good job of sound treatment elsewhere, I agree, probably not intelligible. But going back to the question - why remove grills if you have a TV between them? This is more akin to your discussion regarding the diamond tweeters. Let the speakers deliver what they deliver. Besides, nobody is going to remove the diamond tweeter grills for listening, and this is the part of the frequency most likely to create an issue with regard to a large TV Screen. One last point on that front. The front of my 802D4 tweeters are 19 inches in front of my 55 inch TV. I believe that offset is very helpful as well since we know treble does not radiate backward to any large degree. Thanks for this excellent video. I have resubscribed.
@stevenoconnor5693
@stevenoconnor5693 3 ай бұрын
That broken tweeter broke my heart damn
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
...and B&W's bank account.
@olegariomartinez6807
@olegariomartinez6807 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for such an honest review. I enjoy your reviews for that reason.
@derbygreg
@derbygreg 3 ай бұрын
Sitting here listening on my Kef Blades and thinking if you want soundstage and placement you need to try them
@AbsoluteFidelity
@AbsoluteFidelity 3 ай бұрын
Kefs, even the blade one meta, the magic happens between the speakers. All narrow dispersion speakers but the magic that happens between the speakers put harry potter to shame. Magical imaging. They dont expand soundstage beyond the sides like some other speakers, thats for sure. I have focals and they are nearly the exact opposite of kefs.
@MrBonger88
@MrBonger88 2 ай бұрын
I really hope you get a chance to audition the Klipsch Jubilee’s. If you love the Lascala’s I think you’ll go coocoo for cocopuffs over the Jubilee’s
@paulstearns93
@paulstearns93 2 ай бұрын
I am surprised you don't have Klipsch Jubilees on your list of speakers you would want in your room, based on La Scalas being in your top 3.
@chrisfletcher4726
@chrisfletcher4726 3 ай бұрын
I have been watching this channel for the past few months and have really appreciated your honest reviews. It's awesome to see this set of B&W speakers reviewed. I have a set of DM604 S3's and its about time to pair them up with some decent amplification. I wasn't sure I needed to until watching more and more of this channel to see that B&W speakers need quality amplification. I am leaning towards Anthem Mr series but unsure
@Paranimal86
@Paranimal86 3 ай бұрын
The 801s remind me of fire hydrants but they do sound excellent. 😂
@serpex77
@serpex77 3 ай бұрын
For me, the best big boxes are the KLH Model 5 paired with the one and only T+A Pulsar R2000AC. The bookshelf compression are the vintage aluminium Technics SB F3.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate you sharing. Thanks for joining us this morning!
@lfazio9690
@lfazio9690 3 ай бұрын
And if I’m not mistaken, 800 series were used at some point to mix Abbey Road and, may still be in use at Abbey Road Studios 👍
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
You are correct!
@MrBonger88
@MrBonger88 2 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure they still are along with ATC
@AggMeisTer28
@AggMeisTer28 3 ай бұрын
You mentioned using straight PCM. Do you set the receivers you review to "Straight," i.e., "pure direct," on Yamaha, and compare them to dedicated stereo amplifiers?
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
I play with a variety of settings, and it will vary based on the product. Some products need the signal set to strict PCM, whereas others are more flexible, so my settings vary.
@evanodder6948
@evanodder6948 3 ай бұрын
The advantage to center speakers is that you don't have to be in ideal listening position. The disadvantage is that they aren't as good and they never truly match. My compromise is to use identical bookshelf speakers for fronts and center with a neutral amplifier for the center (front amp to preference). Maybe not so much of a compromise because unless you have a well designed room (or lucky), towers won't have optimum bass anyway
@guashi8987
@guashi8987 3 ай бұрын
How would you compare the 801 D4 signature to the nautilus?And also do you think that the 801 D4 signature's diamond tweater is comparable to the tweater from Dali Kore?
@Jonziebal
@Jonziebal 3 ай бұрын
Very cool unplugged. I will wait patiently forever for your Beolab 90 review.
@BaileyWiggebutt
@BaileyWiggebutt 3 ай бұрын
Same here! I feel as if nobody is talking about them.
@peterbaugh51
@peterbaugh51 Ай бұрын
Great video, very informative. Speaker placement can be so important for Great sound. Room treatment could be just normal furniture and in my case, large plants. "Botanical" room treatment, with O2 as a free by-product... My reference speakers are cross streamed close to a triangle formation. The speakers are approximately 5" in front of the TV screen, 8' apart in a small 12'x13' room. 30° angle from front wall. Yes, I arranged furniture to accommodate awesome sound. Got the best entertainment center ever, with just two speakers and a good amp. No center, rear, or atmos speakers needed. Better sound than my 5 speaker AVR with sub. Must now listen and watch my movies all over again... the sound is that much better. Equipment and placement really does make a difference. And tons of money is not required. Thanks for the video.
@donsimpsonshead8809
@donsimpsonshead8809 3 ай бұрын
The $50,000 audio system at my local audio store only sounds 10% better than my under $4,000 system. It’s all about synergy with the room and equipment.
@Richiv77
@Richiv77 3 ай бұрын
I doubt that is really the truth..
@Richiv77
@Richiv77 3 ай бұрын
Or u know *&^% all about sound
@kadajawi2
@kadajawi2 3 ай бұрын
@@Richiv77 Actually, I think that's about right. Maybe not exactly those numbers, but you spend a ton to get a little improvement once you reach a certain level. Is a Rolls Royce several times as good as an S class? Well, not really. It is better, yes. And there is a reason why it costs so much. But it's not going to be a massive jump.
@Richiv77
@Richiv77 3 ай бұрын
@@kadajawi2 I get the point on those cars and sound systems. However, I have heard $10 000 speakers and have also listened to the B&W 801 D4's and there is NO Comparison.
@donsimpsonshead8809
@donsimpsonshead8809 3 ай бұрын
@@Richiv77 I'm extremely happy with the sound. There are some minors flaws here and there, sibilance on some poorly recorded songs is one, but the vast majority of music sounds wonderful at low and high volumes. Besides, I don't care for that Alanis Morissette song anyways. Listening to the demos at the audio store, in a room that looked like a freaking padded cell, was impressive, but my system is almost as impressive, and I’d save the difference. Diminishing returns on a speaker system means excellent returns in another way. Many go bankrupt chasing the perfect sound. You can go ahead and purchase the B&W 801d’s, and the amps, preamps and dac’s that make them sing. Listening to a $10,000 system and owning an upwards of $75,000 dollar system is another.
@ginap2112
@ginap2112 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply to the question, guys! I’m going to need more cash AND a bigger house 😆
@michaeltaylor6738
@michaeltaylor6738 2 ай бұрын
I found long ago that while I owned BW 801s with external xovers and all Krell suited my music well. I tried for once to connect my 300S to BW601s and would make you a believer that the match of amplification can be easlily missed. I am really thinking about trying the Titans with my MC402 and get back to toe tapping.... I wont go into my current speakers but they dont pull in all the time for return sessions and thats what this crazy hobby is all about. Doesnt matter the logo, look or price but the magic of "goose bumps".
@cdavidhord
@cdavidhord 3 ай бұрын
I have a pair of 801 Series 80 and a pair of 801 Matrix (over 35 years old) and they need much more power that the current generations. You will not appreciate the tremendous dynamic range without power, at least on the older models. You can listen to the D4s, as well as all the speakers you mentioned in this video at the Audio Advice Live show in Raleigh, Aug 2-4. That show has been amazing the past two years!
@KristiWright
@KristiWright 3 ай бұрын
I just cannot support any company that has a goal of putting other shops out of biz not named Amazon.
@jscol34
@jscol34 3 ай бұрын
Thank you both so much for reviewing some higher end speakers on this channel. i.e. B&W 801 D4 signatures. These are probably considered pretty expensive to many viewers however, for me, this is the sweet spot for true high-end audio. I do concede that there are some manufacturers out there that can achieve the same sonic purity for less, but not at a 10th of their price. I would love to see you review other speakers of the same calibre from time to time. I own some Focal Scala' Utopia's and Martin Logan 13a and appreciate them both for their different characteristics. With speakers selling at over $1m rrp, the B&W 801 D4 signatures could almost be considered relatively affordable. For me, there is a point where some ultra hi end gear is more about bragging rights than it is musical enjoyment. Keep this content coming.
@ericelmore887
@ericelmore887 3 ай бұрын
I would love to see you review an open baffle speaker like Diptyque , qualio IQ. I think you will be impressed and both are at a lower price point then the 801’s
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 3 ай бұрын
Sure, but they are limited in what they are sent. Like they said, they haven’t been given high end sonus faber, wilson etc.
@chebrubin
@chebrubin 3 ай бұрын
Yes we need to send you and Andrew the Sonus Faber quad wired and the Mc Stack on each side. Andrew never talks about the cables he is using on the BW 801 D4. Did he biwire with the Mcintosh.
@jcappleman
@jcappleman 3 ай бұрын
@andrewrobinsonreviews I just watched your review of the B&W Formation Duo and I was curious what your opinion is 5 years later after hearing and reviewing more B&W speakers. Do you still feel strongly about how much you loved the Formation Duo?
@maxpower78-15
@maxpower78-15 3 ай бұрын
Here we go on Friday. Cool. Lets do it.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for joining us as always!
@corymarcotte5853
@corymarcotte5853 3 ай бұрын
Find myself wondering what u think oh B&W Nautilus. These were my introduction into high end.
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 3 ай бұрын
13:53 Great recordings absolutely showcase your system..or shows what “missing”….Jazz At The Pawnshop is a reference back in the day ..and still phenomenal today.
@kenmace933
@kenmace933 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Andrew & Kristi, what a vicarious experience that was! Interesting comment at the end regarding a reset or "palate cleanse" as a reviewer -- I've heard/read similar comments in the car industry where car reviewers get bogged down in the churn of new car reviews and it takes something like a Mazda MX5 (Miata) to recalibrate themselves.
@traingawker2121
@traingawker2121 3 ай бұрын
28:29 you’re about as genuine as they come. I appreciate your frankness and you don’t seem to push BS. I was won’t ever own the B&W 801’s, but it’s still interesting to listen about that extreme high end product. Thanks for all you and Kristi do. You bring good value to the people that take the time to listen to your thoughts. Thank You!!!
@paulchristman4918
@paulchristman4918 3 ай бұрын
Very well said, Andrew... Much better to have fully everything you need in a speaker. Then if you EQ anything, you are pulling back just a tad and not adding unwanted coloring.
@kjbunnyboiler
@kjbunnyboiler 3 ай бұрын
Afternoon Andrew. Kristi and Kadie👍👍👍
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
Good morning, KJ!
@kjbunnyboiler
@kjbunnyboiler 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews 👍👍👍
@paulf.5261
@paulf.5261 3 ай бұрын
Just gotta say, I really appreciate that you were showing the speakers that you talked about. 🌝👍 Sometimes when you mention products, XM 183b ll, ive got no clue! So you may as well be speaking dolphin 🤔😂 Happy day guys 🌝🙏
@Ricks.007
@Ricks.007 3 ай бұрын
Andrew if you love those vintage Western Electric speakers, you may wanna to try reviewing an OMA ( Oswald’s Mill Audio ), these speakers are always inspired by the sound of vintage horn speakers, The owner ( Jonathan ) is very passionate about that type of sound, I have heard them in Brooklyn, and I haven’t heard anything better so far… I don’t know if they are willing to send a review sample, but you could try to reach them to see what happens. They also own (Fleetwood Sound Company) which are lower tier speakers compared to OMA, but amazing nonetheless.
@KristiWright
@KristiWright 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation. We'll give them a look!
@hansoosterwal4073
@hansoosterwal4073 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for easing on the topic of room treatment etc. It takes away some anxiety I always had here.
@TonyMartello
@TonyMartello 2 ай бұрын
Andrew either your eyes are growing or you recently up-scaled the glasses. Every year or so I reckon I've left the message to you guys saying "see if you can get a pair of ATC floor standers in there" (I have two accounts) ATC 40, 50, 100 or 150. I await the day. Enjoyed the video, they're always good
@justinparkman3585
@justinparkman3585 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't bet against ATC they make fantastic speakers
@cdavidhord
@cdavidhord 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a clip of you and Christy muscling those beasts into your living room-be great at the tail end of your video!
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 ай бұрын
Nothing against my loving wife, but I muscled the speakers into our home and out of their boxes solo. Because the packaging is so well designed, it's not difficult.
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