Best Tow Vehicle of 2021 | Ranger Vs HiLux Vs D-Max Vs 200 Vs Y62 Vs Ram Vs 79 Series! Who Wins?!

The ULTIMATE tow vehicle comparison is here! We compare some of the best towing vehicles on the market - the Dodge Ram, Y62 Patrol, 200 series Land Cruiser, 2021 Isuzu D-MAX, Toyota HiLux, Ford Ranger WildTrak and the mighty 79 series!
Did we go it alone? Heck no! We've got the industry's best experts in these rigs to talk through what kind of suspension you need for towing, how tunes effect power, plus what you need to consider when it comes to Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) and Gross Combination Mass (GCM)

[@davidhardwick6424]

Time for Graham to build a chopped Y62 to battle Shaun’s chopped 200

[@lukegriffin4557]

would be keen to see that

[@stuartstokes9240]

Ohh yea would be awsome

[@seckintufan5191]

Jacko's Hilux vs 200

[@007Knightjp]

Yes.. Now that is something to be seen.

[@kingbotboy6340]

100000000%%%

[@4everreal_246]

I can feel the fuel tank emptying 😂🤣

[@jjwoody6532]

Out of the box the Cruiser and the Y62 have about the same fuel consumption towing around 3 t. The smiles on their faces when driving the Big Nissan and Ram said it all.

[@rossco4216]

@@jjwoody6532 it's called smiles per gallon!!😊

[@philipsimunitsch4054]

Typical Toyota bias. I tow a 3.2t van and have towed it with a Colorado, 200 series and a Y62 which I have all owned. The Y62 by far is the best and it is more economical than the 200 series despite being petrol. The 200 series was using 24lt/100 whilst the Y62 is using 21lt/100. The Y62 is also cheap to service and maintain. They are also a lot cheaper to buy. Also with the Patrol you don't need to buy a lock up torque converter or a larger transmission cooler. I think this video is a bit bias as most of them are Toyota fans. The Patrol is a very underrated 4wd, but those who have bought them have never looked back. PS I used to be a Toyota person through and through until I drove the Y62. Any way just my 2 cents worth.

[@Garbo4973]

Yep, go stock 200 and stock Y62 and the 62 will flog the 200 every time.

[@bronco351mal]

Y62 is an awesome jigger all round!!

[@whyzed250]

I'm not sure its Toyota bias mate as much as it is diesel bias. We have a problem in this country of immediately discounting anything that isnt a stonking big diesel.

[@Combatt_Wombatt]

🤣

[@Wagenmeister]

All opinions. If there was a factual 100% accurate comparison then there would only have been 1 brand of vehicle producing 1 car of each type on earth.

[@aaronjudd501]

You failed to mention the y62 was stock tune engine and auto with factory lock up on 35s while the 200 you showed us was on smaller tires, engine tune, trans tune and lock up kit to get it to do the job a stock y62 could do.... massively misleading, I’ve owned both and there isn’t much in it fuel consumption wise, but hey your the expert

[@IBOO57]

Correct and sadly makes the whole test pointless.

[@pheonixfps9248]

They wish. But this is how they create bias and lies. False and misleading information.

[@sixlta]

Completely misleading, own both vehicles at the moment, both stock motor and transmission wise, Y62 is by far the better tow vehicle, with nothing more then 200kg rear springs, tows our 3.4t without effort, the 200 series won't hold gears, struggles on ever decent climb, has next to know power to over take, Both using same amount of fuel +or - 1lt or so,

[@davidmeier9827]

Lets see them do it stock versus stock with fuel consumption with a drag race with the same vans now that would be a far test

[@christaraspies3596]

@@IBOO57 Like most of their testing... But i still like checking out the vehicles to see what options are out there, and the mods

[@mattdickins2459]

Cheapest Y62 on Carsales is $47k... And a tuned 200 wins... sounds like a fair comparison!

[@mattdaniels9581]

I tow 3.3tn van with my 2015 dmax with ease. I have upgraded the suspension to and gvm and it hasn't missed a beat. I have done well over 160,000km in 2 years in owning them and love it

[@peterkrstic9568]

Great to hear. I have a 2017 Ranger with upgraded suspension. Tows a 2800kg van easy. Upgrading to a van with atm of 3400 so hope it pulls nicely

[@9002alex]

Tbe best advice I can offer is “just because you CAN, doesn’t mean you SHOULD” Choose the best vehicle for your application.

[@stuarth43]

right read my post, read what Claytons towing said abt utes

[@mitch_1152]

Love shauno when he says “me and the experts”... at least he admits it😂

[@MADBONE0]

*A wise man once said*

[@4x4CampingandAdventures]

Sounds like something Jeremy Clarkson would say 😂

[@TWX1138]

@@4x4CampingandAdventures Not enough swear words.

[@silkyfox7603]

Except for Turbos and superchargers

[@Billybob-vp7ze]

The 3.2l 6 speed ranger tows like shit compared to the 2l bi turbo 10 speed ranger.. proven fact

[@ryanfloyd1330]

@@Billybob-vp7ze its always great when we get the milk bottles in for fucked transmissions...tHeY ToW sO GoOd 🥴 Even better when the owners say they thought the trans was the greatest thing since sliced bread

[@Bamwich]

That Y62 is an absolute weapon, it blows me away that they aren't uber popular over here.

[@damienkearns5748]

The y62 is definitely starting to get popular but I’ve just moved from Byron bay to Newcastle and I see y62’s everywhere down here

[@BJK1987AU]

People have this stupid mindset that petrol can't compete with diesel. I'll keep my egr and dpf free y62 thanks.

[@damienkearns5748]

@@BJK1987AU bruh my mum is literally like that her hilux just blew up and she refuses to buy a y62 because there auto and petrol like damn I’ll take auto and petrol anyday

[@BJK1987AU]

@@damienkearns5748 I've got a diesel MQ Triton as well and it's ok. But I'd much rather the Y62 to drive. 62 just does everything effortlessly.

[@rossco4216]

They are starting to catch on. You can't buy new now for under 85k

[@trevorscott4145]

When giving this advice and I say it is a very good comparison you have presented, we need to remember that when towing or changing headlights people need to be reminded to re-adjust the headlight level so as not to blind on-coming traffic.

[@elitesuppswagga6782]

Legend Great review helped a lot I have both the 200 and latest Hilux and you have answered all my questions Cheers Rohan

[@alexfrankl7861]

Hilarious , paying 75k + for a 79 and 100k+ for a 200 and you have to spend a ton to make them work 😂

[@JSH083]

Like the explore life 79.

[@kalebparkinson92]

@@JSH083 I know aye 😂 more money than brains he has

[@s141jzonboost]

My 79 cost 28k.

[@bayleiboon7840]

It's 80k for a 200 and it's 100 percent worth it ram and patrol would chew fuel and won't last as long not as reliable etc,I would choose a cruiser for anything mate 💯

[@TWX1138]

I get the impression that vehicles in Australia are considerably more expensive than they are in the United States. That said, the 2020 Dodge Ram 1500 "Classic" which is the previous body style (the one featured in this video) is still listed as a build-and-price on ram's website. Picking a "Tradesman" trim, club-cab with the 6'4" bed, 4x4, V8, with a 3.92 gear ratio and a rear limited slip, with the big gas tank is around $35,000 USD MSRP, which is is around $46,500 Australian. Obviously this does not include the ute-tray or other modifications, but even import/shipping costs bring it up to $55K AUD that's still twenty thousand dollars less than the 79-series. Even if it's thirsty, that can pay for an awful lot of fuel. And that's before considering the 2500 or 3500 classes, where the GVWR and GCWR go up considerably. I guess that North America is lucky in that regard, we get the heavier trucks that can be operated with a standard class license.

[@jasonlavelle3293]

I'd absolutely love one of those rams, loved them since I saw that red one in the movie twister

[@allenclydesales6125]

very informative mate! lovin it!

[@bradmitchell2505]

Great vid! Answered a lot of questions I've been pondering over. Cheers.

[@renegadejourney86]

We towed our 3T van with our four cylinder diesel banger around Oz recently no worries at all, tuned and set up correctly for towing etc of course. No float, wandering, trouble pulling out on the motorway or getting pushed about as mentioned here. Yes down on power up them hills compared to the big girls but had all the time in the world getting to destination nowhere. Weighed our options on upgrading to a bigger donk before we embarked and I’m glad we didn’t, saved our selves forking at least 60k to upgrade not to mention the depreciation that comes with it. Tow with a vehicle your comfortable with not what the brands tell you to..

[@kippen64]

I tow with a Ford Falcon station wagon with upgraded suspension and an extra cooler for the trans.

[@willm687]

Anytime I go to a boat ramp there’s always a falcon wagon towing a boat

[@gtlegend007]

Falcons tow with ease. My FG XR6 turbo ute flies up hills towing over 2 tonne.

[@gtlegend007]

@@Diddydudat 2.3 tonne. I've towed 2.7 tonnes once with it, didn't even notice it. Can't beat the barra turbo low end torque.

[@kippen64]

@@Diddydudat 2300kg

[@kristianvanrookie1197]

Falcon Wagons are born to tow. The AU wagon is still the only car to be sold in Australia with a unlimited GCM rating. Pure fact!

[@stuartstokes9240]

The y62 and 200 arnt much different on fuel been proven many times now. Awsome video. I own a Y62 and love it awsome tow rig.

[@HuntShootOffroad]

One thing that was obvious is the noise difference in the cab and with that I'm sure comfort. Even the ram was noisy, I'd be interested to know what the comfort is like in the ram.

[@rodgabase5299]

Their comfort +, heaps of room, I used to drive one around Florida towing a stack of new boat trailers

[@anthonywhitney634]

Very predictable that the 200 won for no better reason than brand loyalty. Proper heavy load testing has shown that the Y62s pulling power is superior to the 200 and fuel economy is identical if not a fracco better. And the best thing, no "T" tax.

[@arielle_australia]

Could you help us out with a link to this test?

[@anthonywhitney634]

@@arielle_australia sorry was too long ago. Done by a Caravan manufacturer in Victoria. They did a pull test up Mt Hotham I think.

[@alexfrankl7861]

Y62 all the way , diesel economy without the dpf crap or turbos .

[@4x4CampingandAdventures]

Bingo!

[@einfelder8262]

Yes sir! Diesels might use a tad less fuel but they need untold thousands of dollars to make them any good. Even then, a bit of bad fuel and you can kiss $20,000 goodbye in a heartbeat. Bad fuel in a petrol? Maybe $2000 if it's really bad.

[@stobesy18]

@@einfelder8262 even then the chance of getting bad fuel to do damage in petrol is really low as well

[@robs4517]

I notice that all of the drivers were smiling and enjoying themselves in the the Ram. No so the the Toyota.

[@benharris7957]

They are fun to drive, fast, big and comfortable. Surprisingly good on fuel too.with cylinder deactivation.

[@robcampbell650]

Yep can't wipe the smile off my face when I'm driving mine ! :)

[@rich7447]

@@benharris7957 I had an early hemi Ram 1500 (2003.5) and it loved fuel, but was too small for most of my needs. I'm running a Ram 2500 with the 6.7 diesel now and getting mileage comparable to the 1500s with cylinder deactivation. The 1500 was only rated to tow 8,700 lbs and I didn't have confidence in the truck beyond about 7,000 lbs. The 2500 easily handles a 14,000 lb trailer.

[@callumgunn9588]

I knew nothing about tow vehicles that are fit for purpose, nor for that matter about the finer points of towing and tips that you guys have outlined, thankyou, brilliant videos.

[@grahameroberts8109]

Lots of work went into making this video and thanks for that. I also have to congratulate you for a rare edition of 24/7 that has not mentioned a particular beverage once. Cheers.

[@familyrig]

Did I miss something? Towing comparison and no mention of gvm/gcm. I know most of us modify our 4wds but, standard 200. GVM 3350kg - 2750kg tare mass no accessories = 600kg payload - 350 downball weight of 3.5t van = 250kg left. As for 79. I use one for work. Try emergency braking a 1.5t trailer on hwy 😱. Lol worst tow vehicle imo. Give my 3.2 ranger any day. Way safer. I personally feel you need more than power to tow safely. I agree 100% about upgrading the suspension to suit. Its a good feeling knowing that you can't feel like you're towing something heavy but sometimes it pays to be aware or feel that there is 3.5t attached to your vehicle. Especially when your family is in the vehicle and off road. Steady steady people..no rush. After all, you're on holidays. 😄🤙

[@jinglemyberries866]

yep its not about how well it tows a load but how well it stops with a load thats the most important

[@morpheus2573]

They listed the GVM & GCM for every vehicle. Very few vehicles tow or carry decent loads well without a GVM upgrade. An ARB 4015kg GVM upgrade on a LC 200 takes your payload from around 500kgs to around 1375kgs. 🦾

[@Tom-lf8hx]

Doesnt matter what dual cab/wagon, or big u.s ute, upgrade the brakes atleast! More weight, longer distance to stop

[@philipchamp594]

Trailer brakes solve that problem.

[@mudgeyy-4501]

Love the vids mate keep it up

[@corzarobbo5052]

So if I put fullcrum stuff on my Commodore and take it to Ultimate Diesel it’ll tow 3 tonne from the sounds of this video

[@4WD247]

If you put suspension, a tune and a tissue box on the parcel shelf - you’ll for sure tow more!

[@lovelc2006]

@@4WD247 I'd say no, get better suspension them fulcrum, and go to a real tuner and you could. Tissue box is only for the v8 79 series drivers

[@AU_4591]

@@4WD247 smarrrrrt A

[@toddnewman4530]

@@4WD247 ya also need the louver on the back window👍👍👍

[@ravenof1985]

its sort of ridiculous how much the older live axle falcons/commodoores can tow once you put HD springs, shocks and brake pads on them. well, maybe not so much the pads, you are reliant on the trailer for 75% of your braking :)

[@johnlytle8513]

I live in the states and I tow with a 2013 Ford Expedition with a 5.4l petrol. I also have a 1995 Ford F350 with 7.3l diesel.

[@coopermulheran3063]

Been keen for this vid all week

[@4WD247]

Enjoy mate!

[@becfarrell8544]

Me too

[@coopermulheran3063]

@@4WD247 cheers mate

[@danielsmith6007]

My favourite part of the week besides Friday

[@mudlovr]

Love these vids so different what vehicles are popular I'm used to towing a bit heavier float trailer alone is 3ton with gcw of 18ton

[@mahdialhajji3079]

I was really looking forward to this video knowing that unbiased opinion would pick the Y62 as the best towing vehicle but personal preferences of the experts won the race. After all they were all owning LCs

[@4WD247]

As we said in the video - if you are looking at a 200 - test drive a y62 before you buy and they are great value for money

[@jonwhite3265]

Good luck keeping fuel up to a towing Y62 in Australia, you better own shares at BP. I sold mine to my uncle it was just ludicrous.

[@scotstralian9147]

@@jonwhite3265 Australian fuel is quite cheap

[@jonwhite3265]

@@scotstralian9147 ok? And?

[@scotstralian9147]

@@jonwhite3265 what's your point?

[@undy22]

Would love to see a ram LARAMIE 2500 6.7l turbo review that would be sick

[@mattheginger]

So long as it doesn’t break down...

[@shanewood3974]

@@mattheginger Cummins motor? Literally a truck motor that does a million km. I'm a ftruck guy my 7.3 uses way less then my 200 did in fuel. And 6.8ton rated overseas.

[@mattheginger]

@@shanewood3974 , yeah that’s fine and all, but what about the rest of the vehicle falling to pieces around it?

[@shanewood3974]

@@mattheginger yeah I dunno america do a fair bit of overlanding no issues. Sold front axles etc. If you are worried about falling apart the d max is the worst built car I have ever seen. Cracks around strut mounts. Front centre cross member cracks both front inner wheel houses crack. Things are death traps.

[@mattheginger]

@@shanewood3974 , just google Dodge Ram and reliability.

[@corbinswift4441]

Good stuff love the vids

[@jona3117]

Really good episode!

[@darrindouglas1]

Had an NP300. Re-mapped ecu, 33's and not towing, would set you back in the seat. Sadly while away down the coast the shortfall had become apparent while travelling home up the Kings Way, it struggled up the hills towing our camper ( 2000 ATM ). Was in 2 minds as to changing diff gears and some other mods, including 1200mm canopy on a 1650 tray, I decided on a 2019 Y62.....dollar for dollar it beat a 200 Series hands down. If you're worried about fuel economy, then a V8 is not for you..........

[@ShedSessionsAus]

Can't half tell they're all Toyota fan boys

[@scootscoot1920]

Don’t blame em’

[@jakoj2098]

They chose petrol ram instead of diesel so they could choose 200. Ram more vehicle for money of 200 with no tune etc needed

[@Bodonism]

Toyota is so damn good, it's hard for them not to be a fan ;)

[@jasonworrall6201]

Brilliant test, made the difference in what we will buy, awesome work, looks like you had a laugh too😂👍

[@jeffreystorer4966]

Thanks fella's good info. Every camping trips first piece of kit should be a set of bathroom scales. Most people would be shocked at the overall weight of their rolling stock if time taken to weigh absolutely everything you have to have on a camping trip I would of liked to see testing with passenger s and all the rubbish they tend to bring along

[@AussieDazza]

Well done guys, sometimes the truth hurts.👍 Oh and Shaun and “ experts “, Dodge hasn’t made RAM’s for over a decade. FCA - Split RAM from Dodge way back in Oct 2009 to become a seperate company and manufacturer . The old Dodge RAM’s are pretty much known as Dodge Cummins these days ( because of the 6BT Cummins engine). The Y62 uses a similar amount of fuel when towing as the 200 series. Common knowledge these days. 😉

[@Malc664]

It's still owned by Fiat Chrysler. But yes, separate factory and name. The fuel economy comments from Shaun were not fair were they. I thought the same as what you said that the Y62 has similar fuel use as the 200 series.

[@AussieDazza]

@@Malc664 Yes still under the FCA banner but a seperate company. Soon FCA and PSA join to become the fourth biggest automotive group in the world.

[@hampuslytz5393]

Wait what? Diesel v8 200 uses as much fuel as petrol v8 Y62? That sounds insane! :p Seroiusly tho, could you elaborate on that?

[@benharris7957]

@@hampuslytz5393 yes when towing the 200 is poor on fuel. I went from a 200 to a Ram and wouldn’t go back.

[@hampuslytz5393]

@@benharris7957 Well poor on fuel sure, but that it would drink as much as a Y62 V8 petrol sounds mental :P My experiance (non with there speceific cars, but in general) is that petrols are a lot thirstier than diesels when really having to work while towing. What gas mileage did you get with the 200, or what do you get now with the Ram, and how heavy stuff are you towing?

[@willandrews4809]

Its a real shame you didn't have a big V6 Amarok in there, it would have surprised you guys. I own both a Amarok and a 200 and rate the Amarok highly if not higher than the 200 when towing my old 3.2t van.

[@DavidVoxDem]

This is a video on four-wheel drives, not AWD city cars.

[@ryanp6138]

@@DavidVoxDem Amaroks are Ok offroad

[@DavidVoxDem]

@@ryanp6138 So are Subarus, doesn't mean they belong there.

[@hamzedandan2258]

This is the video that I’ve been waiting for👌

[@Sabumnim666]

To bad they didn't include real facts.

[@mohdeen8682]

Excellent video as usual 👍🏽

[@eisbar7354]

I take onboard what has been recommended here but as a caravan owner myself when I look around the many caravan parks I’ve visited over the past 3 years the choice of tow vehicles is interesting. Yes you will see your LC200 but by and large I see Pajeros, Prados and a selection of crew cab utes towing a whole range of campers and caravans. Why is that? Not everyone has a cool $90k to splurge on a LC200 and who wants to drive a LC200 to work perhaps in the city everyday? Not me. I’ve owned a Pajero for 5 years and it’s been an excellent tow vehicle. Absolutely bulletproof. I tow a 2200kg caravan.

[@4WD247]

Completely agree with you. It would have been good to get a recent model Pajero and a few other types of vehicles to include in the test. The 200S are not cheap and won't suit every budget, that's for sure! Shauno

[@eisbar7354]

@@4WD247 just not the Pajero Sport mate. It has to be a Pajero! BTW I pick up my new X terrain on Saturday. Hope it stacks up to my Pajero NX?

[@eisbar7354]

@@4WD247 hey mate. I picked up my new XTerrain a few months back and just got home from towing a 2200kg Jurgens Lunagazer to Alice Springs. 5800kms. The Dmax returned 14 litres per 100 and did it with ease.

[@aslkdfjhg]

Oh the times have changed from dad driving the XE falcon at 70kmph on the motorway with a van on the back!

[@bradoshannessy6708]

Haha yep xf falcon for me 😂👍

[@stefanfalldorf6573]

Fantastic video! Thanks a lot. How do you think about the G-Class or the Defender? Greetings from Germany.

[@sw86241996]

Total agree, I own Mn triton with modification include remap and heavy duty suspension. Towing water toy and camper perfectly until I tried my friend 's lc 200, so eveything is changed. For heavy load towing, v8 and heavy vehicle is always the best option. If one day I quite my tradie work will stick with lc200.

[@ianviertel9420]

200s are really average on fuel consumption towing, wrong saying the y62 is worse.. it actually uses less fuel with way more power standard

[@rapidcnt5290]

I’ve watched many tests comparing fuel consumption between the y62 and the 200 and they y62 just piped the 200 and used less fuel so this should have been tested properly but I’m not hating I really enjoyed the vid I want to emphasis this is not complaining I’m just stating a point of view😊

[@simonhjc]

From memory the 79 is the only vehicle there that has a 3.5tonne towing plus 1.2 tonne carrying. The other vehicles “increase” the towing capacity by reducing the carrying capacity. I owned a 200 and nearly chopped it. Went back to a 79 dual cab instead. Its “fit for purpose” suits me better. 😊

[@whyzed250]

I've read a few tow test reviews on Y62 vs 200 and i thought by all accounts the fuel economy wasn't that different? Most testers i read were surprised how economical the y62 was and how much thirstier the 200 was than they expected.

[@joeycourtice4157]

With modern engines being very efficient, you burn the same amount of fuel for every horsepower in petrol and diesel. They're pretty equal, although 20 years ago, it was a different story

[@lachlansheekey2839]

The clear toyota bias shines through again. The y62 was bone stock on 35s, cruiser had smaller tyres, lock up kit and a tune, really fair comparison to make the Nissan look worse on fuel.

[@ado6770]

@@lachlansheekey2839 hows is it bias, its really bias to the patrol then which has bigger motor with more hp, even though it is "stock" and when people are saying the petrol is just as good on fuel trust me it isnt. horsepower is horsepower and tuning a 200 making 300 more nm they do tow better, its showing diesel engines tow better which they do

[@mattshaw7671]

@@ado6770 but they don't tow better. You can't say the Y62 is a better motor therefor unfair.... it's the stock motor. Looking at the point you just made, you an go throw a supercharger on the y62 and it'll shit all over the 200 series. Just as it does when both are stock.

[@olithejimny]

I'm confused. Where's the bit where they get to Cape York?

[@brothercool12]

There's no replacement for a HEMI... I love my Ram, I've been rock crawling in the same places as a Wrangler and i don't care what you do to your Toyota... it wont rock crawl like a Ram or a Wrangler. And now we got the TRX.... game over.

[@-unactive-7240]

This show has come a really long way, great work Graham, Shauno and the rest of the boys🤙👍🤘 I have been watching since 2010

[@cswift6034]

Hey this video came up on my feed so I thought I’d watch it. I have a few tow vehicles including a trackhawk which tows my 3tonne van with ease. I’ve found my v6 amarok a sensational tow rig. The only letdown is the tow ball weight. That’s easy to get around because of the payload. I move weight from the van to the back of the Ute. It makes the amarok heavier. It actually levels the springs and levels the Ute perfectly. It has ridiculous amounts of power and towa in 8th and 7th gear. Only rarely will it drop back further in the gear range on a tough hill. I drove from geraldton to perth in one tank. Overtook quite a few rangers and 200 series. I have a modded grand Cherokee with the 5.7 hemi like the ram. It’s so much more fun off road, it pulls incredibly good but sinks juice like an outback driller. In comparison I can only make it from Yanchep to jurien bay on one tank. But the v8 sounds mint and it great to hear it. It’s only a 5 speed gearbox and I have not adjusted the gear ratios to accommodate the big wheels so it would have an affect on the fuel usage. I think this video is missing quite a lot of detail and can be misleading to the future buyers. I saw no mention of mods and the affect on GCM. I’ve seen plenty a prado driver towing while pointing to the sky or many overloaded 200 series. The 200 series has virtually no payload and with barwork roof racks and a few other mods you have no payload. In fact a lot of 200 series are overloaded. You talked briefly about the ram GCM. Overloaded 200 series is a massive problem. They can do it but I think the whole industry is missing that. What about the ali guy not mentioning that putting a massive tray on the back seriously affects all these specs. I think you should do another video about weighting payload etc. there’s only one driver and no payloads. Each vehicle has a unique combination which will make it perform at its best.

[@antonys1782]

Now you need to do a fuel test so you can see the 200 and Y62 use about the same amount and get your dyno guy to compare the standard power output

[@vanderz1012]

I see the guys mention the 3.2 having better performance compared to the 2.0 would love you guys to do a comparison between a 2.0 and 3.2 Ranger including towing test to see if Ford went forwards or backwards

[@sarelalberts8890]

Hi Shawn very good comparison and info .What about testing the same vehicle's feul economy in some more off road conditions .

[@foo50o]

Nice video, but no mention that the Ram has the tow/haul button standard, which locks the transmission in certain gears, which helps with transmission temp. Need to mod the 200 series transmission to be the same, fuel consumption not that far off to the 200 series. My choice would be the Ram. Nothing beats the HEMI....

[@remmahraw16]

A y62 beats the 200 in basically everyway but sheep gotta sheep I guess

[@stevemoyse6454]

Sheep keep the resale as good as it is for 200s

[@philldunn4712]

Gotta love toyota 24-7

[@remmahraw16]

@Matt There are videos that show the fuel difference is no where near what everyone likes to think problem is everyone thinks diesel is the only way to go but what they forget is we don't live in the 1950's anymore petrol could and can do the job and we all know if Toyota and Nissan switched and the y62 had a Toyota badge all the sheep would justify it even though there isn't a diesel option.

[@morpheus2573]

@Chris Anchor Re: “A y62 beats the 200 in basically every way…” Stock LC 200 torque = 650 Stock Y62 torque = 560 Diesel versus Petrol. ⛽️💨 Myth busted. MAAAAA! 🐑

[@animalscars3799]

@@morpheus2573 LC is a diesel motor, ofc it’s gonna have more torque… now check the kW diff between the two

[@Timthetoolman79]

Great video as always but Shauno were are these $40k Y62's you speak of?

[@davidmeier9827]

Yea i want one shit for that price ill but 2 lol

[@aztar4386]

Just watched this after DMW Towing test with the 200 vs Y62. Think a test between the two, in standard and modified vehicles would be a great comparison. Fuel economy in petrol's seem to be getting better these day, and in most tests like these it is always mention and not tested.

[@benmadsen8739]

I tow around 1800 kg with a 105 series 4.2 ltr 1hz. It handles and stops fine but hates hills and overheats easily. Bigger isn't always better.

[@ggkanakestardom4370]

No one talking about Graham's input😂😂

[@johnflynn556]

I had a MY2009 D-Max when I bought my 1.6 tonne forward fold camper. I upgraded to a 200 series shortly after and it is no comparison. The LC just doesn't know it is towing it even up steep hills and over taking. The D-Max would have probably been ok but there is definitely going to be less strain on the 200, and therefore less wear and tear in the long run.

[@4WD247]

Yep that’s exactly what we found

[@kristianvanrookie1197]

@@4WD247 Less wear on the 200s air filters for sure!

[@becduffield2982]

you make the best videos

[@GregPalmer2]

Great overview on these modern based 4x4,as l say there is no substitute for extra cylinders,the more is better towing. l think 6 cylinders has got a place for good towing but unfortunately there isn't many modern diesel ones except the old type. Saying that Toyota may have one coming out in the near future.

[@oscarmollenhauer3083]

Was that Shaun smiling in a patrol?😁

[@osiris571983]

With the noise coming out of that monster? Who can blame him lol

[@james-lm9kx]

Blasphemy

[@rossco3775tv]

Think he's smiled in Daryl a few times. .

[@seanmartin2382]

LOL I spit my coffee out over those Graham photoshops lol

[@memecorn4313]

Cool love you guys you bring me joy

[@4WD247]

😉

[@sidjyothi]

Epic! The Ram for sure would drink like old mate.

[@mimbec]

Nice video. Would of been good to see the Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 turbo diesel v6 tow as well as the v6 amarok

[@4WD247]

Yes these two are great tow vehicles. We will have to include them on the next one

[@alt7488]

@@4WD247 is that with or without a samsung phone in the console

[@brylyn23]

(30:50) Y62's have shot up in price shauno,also I'll go and say the Y62 is far more capable offroad than the 200 series because of that rear solid axle in the 200(getting stuck because of the pumpkin) and because they love trashing CV joints,i dont own either never have BUT if i was going to buy one the Y62 would be my choice..

[@LyfovRyan51]

Bought a new 79 series Land cruiser to tow my 3 tonne caravan. I've had installed Clearview mirrors and red ark breaking system. Believe I'll wait for the engine to run in before I opt for the performance tune and updated clutch. It's not perfect, but it's what I can afford.

[@garylee4171]

Excellet clip well done all involved.

[@gavindelahunty8771]

Another video on how much overweight the wagons are when actually loaded with family and junk perhaps?

[@PeterEmery]

That would be a great idea.

[@TheTripleDubya]

They already did that and it was an eye opener.

[@julianclark8184]

go get the cummins ram. That will tow better than any other vehicle here

[@fez_flix682]

it would tow every vehicle there and ask for more 👍

[@mickromer6199]

Just a shame the big utes prices are ramped up with import tax and conversion fees.. I'd absolutely love a 2500.. just cant afford one haha

[@julianclark8184]

@@mickromer6199 haha very fair

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[@ForOdin]

@@mickromer6199 they’re expensive in the States, too, 1 ton trucks can cost around $100000 (US)

[@websp00k]

Good video however sadly missed out on the middle diesel market. As quoted "Landcruiser 200 too expensive for most" and that's why we see more Jeep Grand Cherokee (570nmM) and Disco's as trailer tugs. Be good to do a follow up and include these as alternatives to $100k Cruisers.

[@vanderz1012]

I'm taking my 3.2 Ranger to get tuned and upgrade my suspension after seeing this I can't wait

[@Sabumnim666]

I just changed my 3.2 for the bi turbo do not listen to these twats I can certainly tell you there is a load more grunt in the bi turbo but certainly get a tune and the throttle controller its a very low cost big improvement. I went to the bi turbo to tow my van 2850KG ATM this allowed for a GVM GCM of 7100kg and no need to get the upgrade intercooler and radiator, this is needed in the 3.2. Great utes.

[@muhammedpatel4469]

Watching this from South Africa. Can’t agree more with the results. Spot on advice.

[@bradd7664]

Just don't put anything in the back of the 200 series when towing 3T, including passengers - perfect tow vehicle haha!

[@morpheus2573]

Very few vehicles tow or carry decent loads well without a GVM upgrade. An ARB 4015kg GVM upgrade on a LC 200 takes your payload from around 500kgs to around 1375kgs. 🦾

[@stuartkcalvin]

Good piece, thanks.

[@johnwilson2338]

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[@bammers30]

Can you link me some y62s for 40k would like to buy one 😁👍

[@thejfkexperience7064]

I think he meant you have 40k spare change in comparison to a 200series

[@braydonbeard157]

Y62 is my favourite for sure but I do love the Ram

[@Jimstapenell]

Just watched the towing vid and wondering if there is a caravan towing vid using the Ozglide coupling? The Ozglide coupling has an airbag and 2 shock absorbers. I would like to see a caravan towing test using an ozglide.....

[@einfelder8262]

100% agree that a tow vehicle must be heavier than the load. Try going down a wet mountain pass with a 3 ton van behind a dual cab and you will soon realise what I mean :) I'd be interested in the EGT and trans temps of the utes towing the boat - high temps on sustained towing can kill a diesel engine in no time. For me, highway towing a biggish van the perfect tow vehicle is a Touareg with air suspension.

[@JohnJones-ce5ri]

D-Max with the Y62's v8 engine would be insane.

[@p.o.vteevee]

I'll stick with my swag who needs a 3 ton caravan???

[@nethiuz9165]

Exactly. I see towing as a disability. There goes plenty of hard tracks.

[@doffman8262]

I do need a 3 ton boat though

[@crimzikk]

And a case of piss on ice

[@Drew-hy6zr]

Haha the good old days 😍before marriage and kids 🙃

[@chrisandshazza01]

Hard tracks - still swag it, as me and the ole man will be doing next week with my kids. That’s after I tow the 3.2 ton van behind the Hemi with the family down the South Coast for a holiday💪🤘🤘. Luv our swags and we luv our 3 tonne shitter, best of both worlds for the family.

[@lukeclarke8054]

They should be able too. Back when I was a kid my old man use to tow a 22foot caravan behind an xf falcon.

[@davidseward2966]

I love my Ram . Great video .

[@nugget3030]

Yawn, another vid where toyota wins, because um well toyota, despite costing more and needing bulk coin spent on mods to be almost as good as a patrol.

[@davidmeier9827]

U forgot worst load carrier capacity lower gcm i would love to see the total build cost of both 200ser and the y 62 i bet it nilly 80k more thats a shit tone of fuel

[@braalo07]

Salty 😂😂

[@smithschips5491]

ur patrol will be on the side of the road broken down. good luck mate

[@lukepaton928]

SmithsChips up the luxxies

[@smithschips5491]

@@lukepaton928 my n70 sr5 goes hard. shit on any patrol

[@MrTonaluv]

It should be said that the 2.0 Ranger biturbo engine is built from scratch with a totally new block+head to handle the high boost and revs. It's not just an old 2 litre engine with a high boost turbo chucked on it. So it's great on fuel when cruising but has power when you're giving it heaps.

[@madlad8629]

There is no replacement for displacement.

[@penguin7578]

My choice would have to be the ram. They forget to mention to make a 200 liveable you need a lockup kit and an aftermarket air box or uni filters to protects it from dusting its self. The ram also achieves 12 lts per 100 not towing and 20.8 when towing 3 tonne at least that is what I get back in mine. The patrols are great vehicles also they also don’t tell you the fact the gx 200 is that bare bones you don’t really wanna sit in one

[@boltonky]

Good video, and towing any form of load especially larger ones takes experience and smarts not just a vehicle that can do it. If you can't drive a car without any computer assist then think lots before towing haha

[@henkstols9326]

So basically get a v8 Patrol, really like those vehicles.

[@4WD247]

Great value for money option with a STACK of power. Shauno

[@krump743]

Wow all these flogs raving about the 200 series lmfao. The y62 gets the same fuel figures as the 200, and it doesnt have the shitty dpf to worry about 😂. Toyota really does have the easily persuaded population hood winked 😂

[@anaussie5984]

Where I live diesel is on average about 25% cheaper per litre compared to premium unleaded

[@kentullock8329]

i lick all that you did in this video keep up the good work the F150 v6 ecoBoost twin-turbo LOL

[@Blokesgottabloke]

Love to know your thoughts on things like the MUX, Everest and Fortuner. Same rating as their Ute equivalents? I don't think they did any chassis or engine changes when they made them into an SUV did they? Or did they?