Best Tree Stand and Climbing System

Best tree stand and climbing system for hunting. In this video, I go over four different types of tree stand and climbing systems and give you some insight on which one is the best, which is the heaviest, which is the lightest, which is the quietest, which works the best, which takes the longest to pack up, etc. I also mention some straps in this video that I recommend having as a hunter. You can view them using this link - amzn.to/2QE7wS5

[@seansoutdoors]

I inadvertently didn't carry the seconds over properly when adding the time for the sit and climb. It should have been 6:24 for the total time. God bless you guys.

[@jonpatterson5668]

Great video man.. love the split screen ... sure put everything in a very legitimate comparison

[@seansoutdoors]

Thank you!

[@northofdetroitoutdoors7404]

Great job, Sean! Split screen was awesome! I chuckled when the seat fell on the LW a couple times. I use the LW assault hand climber and that happens to me too when I’m moving too fast! God bless!

[@seansoutdoors]

👍

[@madhuntsadventures]

Great comparison, Sean! A lot of great information with no favoritism towards one or the other systems. Thank you for taking the time to put all this together!

[@seansoutdoors]

Thank you!

[@kennethlukens9054]

I love the objectivity of your videos. Just simple honest reviews. Thanks from Florida!

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks! Stay hydrated in that florida heat

[@michaelmangano8733]

I’ve watched alot of videos on climbing methods and this is the best one I’ve seen. Good job.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks!!

[@Kanook99]

Agreed.

[@thefrugalsportsman]

Great video Sean! Thanks so much for taking the time to put this out. Super informative! God Bless!

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@capitalistwire]

Been researching for 2 weeks. This is the best video by far about this on KZbin. Thanks man.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks James, God bless you

[@underdogoutdoors]

Been following your channel for years, this by far is my favorite video. The split screen was so nice. Your comparison & assessment was unbiased, great review. After a few seasons with a saddle & multiple systems including DRT which I really enjoyed (I did a brief video on DRT)- the Lone Wolf Sit & climb with a modified "hazemore" seat beats everything in my humble opinion. Looking forward to your video on how to get around branches with a climber (perhaps wearing a saddle with the climber?). Great job brother! -Andy

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks I haven't edited that one yet but hope to get to it next week. Also one on trying the DRT method.

[@woodsdog7849]

Sean awesome creativity with the split screen side by side comparison, really.... a picture or short video truly is worth a million words. Way to get creative. Really enjoyed this video.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks so much

[@joshuareed3999]

This video is coming at a perfect time! I am trying to pick a system for public land hunts and just having a mobile, comfortable system. I hunt a few different areas and it's nice to have a light, mobile system. My Summit climber has certainly been a good system over the years, but it's time to upgrade! Thanks for the info!

[@seansoutdoors]

Glad you to be of assistance

[@mikemellon80]

great review of all types. love the split screen and thanks for speeding it up. validates my lone wolf hand climber i just purchased!

[@seansoutdoors]

I've enjoyed mine for a long time

[@Sharpsticks]

You going to love it! i have the lone wolf assault climber and the larger combo II they are my go to stands all season long enjoy and good luck this season

[@roysteen4864]

Thank you so very much Sean very informative and kind of you to share your thoughts and knowledge have a blessed day many prayers over you and your family

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks, prayers for you and yours as well.

[@chrismatthews228]

Thanks for this review! It’s amazing the weight of these systems. 15 years ago I didn’t care too much about how heavy my climbing gear was, but now that I’m north of 50 I find myself deliberating mire and more each season as to what I’m going to use simply based upon carry weights. Sounds whimpy but it’s a reality for office workers like me who aren’t as physically in shape (strength wise) as I once was. Stay safe!

[@seansoutdoors]

I understand. Be safe out there

[@LouStoriale]

Agreed! The more I use the Beast method, the further I go into the woods. Now weight and bulk matter a lot.

[@christiansather974]

Great information bud and awesome video. Keep up the great work!

[@seansoutdoors]

Thank you!

[@johnbasiglone1219]

Sean, you are the most thorough, scientific, no 'Bro' b.s., straight shooting archery expert that I have seen on KZbin. Thanks for your hard work putting out these straight forward, comprehensive archery and hunting videos.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thank you so much! God bless you

[@ewingh695]

Good job Sean, great way do a comparison video; excellent.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thank you

[@timelder9098]

Great video, split screen was an awesome touch!

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@davidlane9724]

You have many great videos and this one was my favorite

[@seansoutdoors]

Thank you so much!

[@timbrown8630]

Really great job with this video. Nice work - another Subscriber earned!

[@seansoutdoors]

Wow, thanks Tim. God bless ya

[@ridgeraisedoutdoors]

This is a great video man. Cool view. Good luck this season and God bless!

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@walter992]

I hunt out of all the options available. The flexibility of the saddle is unmatched but the efficiency and comfort of the climber is tops. Hang on stand and stick have a definite place. They are all tools that should be utilized by hunters to maximize success. Great video.

[@seansoutdoors]

Awesome

[@scottmuller8073]

Great review/comparison. Definitely food for thought on pros/cons of each.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@everydayadventureswithamph6232]

Great video. This was extremely helpful.

[@seansoutdoors]

Great!

[@TheBuckPsych]

Sean your are the probably the best channel there is for just great information . I try to do the same on my channel also. You have Just such great content. Its content not shoving things down your neck with sales pitches snd marketing ploys. Just honest opinions and what works best for you. Sean thank you for being such great person and so honest and a great host.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thank you so much. God bless you

[@marionjohnson2211]

One of the best videos I have ever seen.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thank you!!!

[@nathanscheuman4263]

Looking forward to seeing the climber video on how to go around tree limbs. Great video.

[@seansoutdoors]

Okay I'll try to put that together soon

[@johnky100]

Really cool vid with the split screen. Great comparion. LW hand climber for me.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@keithsadler5260]

I have an old 1st generation tree lounge that is heavy but I love the secure feeling it gives. And I have the bow stand that goes with it.

[@seansoutdoors]

Great

[@theguyinmaine]

Great video. Appreciate all the work.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@7outdoors4life]

AMAZING VIDEO MY FRIEND!!!!!! I REALLY LIKE IT!

[@seansoutdoors]

Awesome thanks! God bless you

[@robertsims9088]

Great video. Thanks for the chuckle with 5min 84 seconds....

[@seansoutdoors]

My pleasure

[@urbanbushman7654]

Great video. I'm going to use my new Cruzr XC this year. I've been practicing using DRT and SRT methods. I've found the SRT to be the best using a grigri climbing device and a hand ascender with a carabiner to create a 2 to 1 lift ratio. The trees in my area can be gnarly so I'll likely use a combination of techniques. I've found "NY Saddle Hunter" has some great videos to show the rope climbing techniques. Best of luck.

[@seansoutdoors]

Awesome. Be safe

[@G273Outdoors]

Nice video Sean. I am using a Ameri-step Silencer Ground blind this season. I will be trying to get my son Zach his first deer. Good luck this season!!!

[@seansoutdoors]

Awesome thanks

[@LouStoriale]

You did a good job on this one brother

[@seansoutdoors]

THANK YOU!

[@Kanook99]

I think you did a really good job. Thank you.

[@seansoutdoors]

That’s great. Thanks for watching and commenting . Gif bless you

[@green223hp]

Always good to have options. I prefer my summit climber. I have a couple spots that don’t have any straight trees. Then I like my XOP sticks & stand set up.

[@seansoutdoors]

Awesome

[@kelvin0689]

Great fair comparison of all these mobile systems. Also, the time-lapse comparisons were done in shirt-sleeves. Try it with gloves and multiple layers of clothing in freezing temps and the climber will shine even brighter! Putting up sticks in those conditions last week was a pain in the neck for me!!!

[@seansoutdoors]

👍

[@autopeep24]

Nice, have 2 LW hang on's. going with the LW assault climber!.....Thanks good info

[@seansoutdoors]

Enjoy it

[@garrettstraffon608]

I love my summit viper, it’s aluminum it’s light it’s fast and safe comfortable and here in pa it’s not hard to find a tree.

[@seansoutdoors]

Enjoy it

[@leafinitup1]

Great comparison… Love the side by side shots. I’ll have to figure out how to do that. You can save even more weight by switching to the Sterling ropes. Looks like you are covered for any tree, any situation.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks brother.

[@Hisslave1]

Hey VP, as a climbing arborist I've had some issues with Sterling climbing line, definitely wouldn't be my first choice.

[@thistledewoutdoors3331]

I've been using strap on tree steps & an aluminum API for nearly 20 years now !!! Bought into other stuff but this is the lightest / fastest / quietest and easiest for my #250 huskyness !!

[@seansoutdoors]

Awesome

[@kjarby69]

Very good job with the video!!!

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks! God bless you

[@hallhouse5098]

Ive used alot of them and my favorite all time as far as lightweight and super quiet and easy to use is the lone wolf assasin hand climber. It’s not very comfortable but if you can’t the seat just right and not let your legs hang to the platform it’s pretty comfy. Some guys use an extra butt pad which I tried and it wasn’t very helpful. Definitely use a harness and safety rope with prussic knot. I love this climber.....so quiet.

[@seansoutdoors]

awesome

[@waynehumphrey8910]

Great videos man I got a x stand climber for public all my private land stands are either hang on or ladder stands

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@withajeep]

Loved the split screen, it helped me show the differences to my wife

[@seansoutdoors]

Cool thanks

[@rickywright3894]

Very informative and interesting!

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@kidneystones3406]

Well done video, great job. This is just my opinion but I THINK the one stick climbing method and rappelling down is the ultimate mobile climbing system its very lightweight and quick. Some one have pay me alot of money to go back to a tree stand

[@seansoutdoors]

👍 be safe and enjoy the journey!

[@r-n-jhomesteadlife4800]

This was an awesome review, as always Sean! I have a Lone Wolf sit and climb. Do you know if I can purchase just a hand climber to replace the "sit" top part?

[@seansoutdoors]

They stopped making them but you might be able to find one somewhere or get a used one

[@curte6062]

I've been using climbing stands for over 40 years my first was the original Baker (Widowmaker) I didn't have the hand climber just the foot part you basically hug the tree and inch worm yourself up and down. Since then I've used buckshot, Cadillac, Warren and sweat, and many other stands I can't even remember the names of most of the ones I used early on were the kind where you sit and stand as you climb and you face the tree great for gun hunting cuz you could turn yourself in a manner where you could use the tree as a rest, awesome stands for hunting big cutovers or fields. My latest is a summit viper SD I've never had a summit before but the learning curve on this stand was almost zero it was so easy to set up so easy to climb with. As I get older I find myself hunting more on the ground or from ladder stands I've got numerous pop-up blinds set up and a lot of ladder stands on my farm. But getting back to the summit out of all the stands I've had in recent years it's got to be my favorite. I will also add I've tried the lock on stands with the climbing sticks and while they can be quick and easy to set up they can also be a pain in the butt sometimes I usually set one up in an area where I'm going to leave it for the season.

[@seansoutdoors]

Great, glad you enjoy it. God bless you.

[@ZeLogicnator5k]

Thanks for the breakdown Sean, very informative. I started Whitetail hunting a couple years ago using 3 sticks w/ aider and Phantom saddle. While the weight is great, it definitely takes some time to get up into a tree as a beginner and it's somewhat of a pain to get everything tightened down for pack in/out. Both climbers, while heavier, seem monumentally simpler. Would you say the climbers with the levelers (like the equalizer or new Summit) are worth the extra weight?

[@seansoutdoors]

Honestly, I've been hunting out of a lone wolf hand climber for the past 20 as is and it's worked great for me. Any feature that adds weight would not be Worth it to me as I've been doing just fine for a long time.

[@eyedocflyer9980]

Best video I have seen to compare set ups. Nice job. Thank you for all the time and effort! I am trying to decide between a Summit Viper SD, XOP sit and climb or the Lone Wolf sit and climb. What is your opinion on the best overall set up?

[@seansoutdoors]

I think the lone wolf has the edge as I mentioned in the synopsis in the latter part of this video, because of the quick and quiet locking system for the belts. XOP is less expensive but their locking system is noisy and takes a much longer time. Summits are too big and bulky for my taste (and noisier.)

[@eyedocflyer9980]

@@seansoutdoors Thanks Sean. You really helped me decide. I am going with the Lone Wolf for sure.

[@stevehargis1315]

Great video I just picked up a lone wolf hand climber was wondering what bow hanger you had mounted on the base

[@seansoutdoors]

Cool

[@ikeyeet8312]

Great video, just stole a Lone wolf sit and climb used twice for $75 at a garage sale.

[@seansoutdoors]

Wow AWESOME!

[@shadyp-zv3uf]

I'm glad I seen this...looks like the tetherd is the way to go

[@seansoutdoors]

God bless you

[@roberthoke6669]

Well done. The shoulder straps that come with the Lone Wolf (LW) system are horrible, but makes it affordable. Being a retired Army guy, I've been on a couple walks so I added Alice straps and a kidney pad to my LW system. Make sure your alice straps have the chest strap if going in heavy. LW is currently hands down the most efficient and effective system available. If your hunting with a crossbow and optic there's no comparison, because with a little practice you can index your target and shoot both sides. I'd say the only thing LW need's to do is add some curvature to the foot stand that rides your back while moving to make the ride comfortable, or I'll roll up and upper and lower set of padding/towels and duct tape them up - , I know it'll work and ride like the wind. I leave the packing harness on the ground in my backpack as I climb and hunt. The backpack rides on my front making it the proverbial front pack walking in, which holds hunting accessories. This is not a concept for everyone, but if you've been on a couple walks you'll be fine..

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks for sharing. I agree. I did something similar with the straps years ago kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZXRhGmwgK96ipo

[@shively22]

Thanks Sean! Quick question with regards to the Lone Wolf Hand Climber. You did a video 4-5 years ago and mentioned not carrying it with the teeth facing upwards for safety. In this video you have them upward.. does the stand sit well on top of your bag if the teeth are facing towards the ground?

[@seansoutdoors]

Correct. When the stand is flat against your back, the teeth are right at your head. With the stand turned around like this, the teeth are far from your head.

[@kenmathews4522]

Another great video! Thanks for the information. Just curious as to why you don't utilize a linesman rope when climbing. Any slack in that tether is dangerous!

[@seansoutdoors]

I did use a lineman when using climbing sticks. Climbers are not designed to club with a lineman but with a tether.

[@Hungrybird474]

Cordless drill and some screw in pegs. $20 and it’s good for a long time . Looks like your idea is a good one . Might as well start production . Good luck .

[@seansoutdoors]

Lol thanks

[@TerryKetterer76]

I've used all these methods and I also found that the LW Hand Climber was the fastest, quietest, and overall best option for me. Especially when dealing with branchless trees or trees with small branches I can saw off. 2-3 minutes and I'm up and hunting. The LW is so light I hardly notice it. But when I want to be super comfortable for all day sits I bring my Summit. There's nothing like it for comfort, but it's heavy, loud, slow, and bulky. I tried saddle hunting and it was OK for short sits but after a few hours I noticed myself getting fidgety and uncomfortable. I still carry a saddle in my backpack - only to use when going "around" large limbs with my Lone Wolf climber lol.

[@seansoutdoors]

Cool

[@donovanstockton44]

Awesome video Sean. The Lord has blessed you with talent. I would love to see you compare SRT or DRT to those methods.

[@seansoutdoors]

I just tried the DRT method the other day and filmed it. I'll see about getting the needed materials for SRT if my wife will let me lol.

[@donovanstockton44]

@@seansoutdoors if you preset a tree with paracord, you can climb any tree in a minute or two. Most trees are not perfectly straight and limb free and SRT/DRT really solves that kind of problem. The best part of SRT and DRT is getting down: rappelling down in seconds. NY Saddle guys are doing interesting videos. I really love how you did the side by side comparison above. That was pure genius.

[@taylorshytle]

This is a top notch review. The creativity of the split screen really puts each system in perspective. I have tried the saddle a couple times, but can’t get comfortable. I have tried the tether lower to take pressure off of my legs, standing to stretch the legs and keep pressure off my back, and even tried the phantom at different angles on the bridge, but I couldn’t get real comfortable. Any suggestions? I have the LW alpha and stick system and I’m trying to get lighter without losing versatility of hunting any tree. Thanks!

[@seansoutdoors]

Well, have you tried hanging in the saddle with your knees against the tree? That's about the only other thing to try off the top of my head. There are a few companies coming out with stands that only way about 6 or 7 pounds but they are very expensive.

[@taylorshytle]

@@seansoutdoors -- that was the most comfortable with the bookbag at my knees. Thanks for the reply!! Yeah those lighter ones make your wallet lighter ;)

[@jaorte10]

great review. There is a sit and stand climber that locks to the tree when you get to your height. It's the only one I will even consider climbing with. once you've locked it to the tree. it's not going move. Rock solid. It's called the com-bow by JRH enterprises. It's a little heavy but that's what makes it so solid. Check it out. They're famous for their gunslinger model that only faces the tree. But you can fall asleep in it without worrying about falling out. No kidding.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks. Enjoy it

[@wbrown351]

I bought a XOP sit and climb for this season. But I dont like folding it flat fot transport can you show how you pack yours up for carry .

[@seansoutdoors]

I just lay them on their side and strap them to the stand with the type of straps I linked in the description.

[@OutdoorsTME]

I've used a loggy bayou climber for years. The one I use is one of their models they made shortly before they closed down. It has metal teeth on both the platform and the climbing aide and it uses a cable similar to Summit's on the platform except the loggy cable is longer. This climber weighs less than any other climber I've ever weighed including lone wolf's smallest climber and summit's smallest climber. On thing I do different is I use a holey duck decoy bag (weighs nothing empty and wads up out of the way under your seat) I use a small camera bag in the duck bag that holds my calls and a camera. I also carry my clothing layers in the duck bag that I put on once I'm sitting on the stand at my desired height. My duck bag is attached to the stand as I hike in and then I put it on my back while I attach the stand and climb up. I've always assumed the stick and stand hang and hunt would weigh way more and take way longer to go up and down the tree. The only way I'd use the hang and hunt would be if i have to use a tree with limbs .

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@L2fish]

I use my Summit Viper like a hand climber or I sit sometimes. In my opinion it is the less stressful ascend and descend. As well I can sit in that stand all day. My next new hunting tool is going to be an E Bike as I mostly get in the woods via access roads or hiking trails. I bet I could even ride some deer runs too

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks for your input

[@matthewsalcido7884]

Great video!! Unrelated question do you know what quiver will fit on the dragon x8?

[@seansoutdoors]

Any. Quivers are universal fitting.

[@matthewsalcido7884]

@@seansoutdoors sweet man thanks

[@niccastleberg4951]

So I have been shooting my diamond edge 320 and I noticed the fletchings were hitting the bow string. How should I fix this?

[@seansoutdoors]

If you mean that the fletching is contacting the cables, then you need to twist the arrow a little so that the angle of the fletch is down a little bit and not contacting the cables.

[@gcnphilly]

Hey Sean, I agree with all the great compliments already shared on this video. Great, great job!! One question. When you are showing how you attach the stand to the pack (Time Code: 15:15), how well does that work when you have a full pack? In the video your pack looked empty. Just wondering how that works and feels when you have a full load of gear already in the pack. Thanks for another awesome vid! Blessings to you.

[@seansoutdoors]

It actually works a lot better with a full pack.

[@gcnphilly]

@@seansoutdoors Thanks! I actually never considered using a tree stand until I saw your videos. Your stuff is the best! So helpful and honest. Really appreciate the commitment to Christ and family!!

[@jasonjohnson6540]

Great video. Sean you mentioned that you’ve used the lone wolf climber for many years. How often do you replace the straps that secure the stand to the tree?

[@seansoutdoors]

I have been using the same set for about 18 years but have been thinking it's time to replace them even though they seem fine

[@jasonjohnson6540]

Sean's Outdoor Adventures ya they are not cheap at $40 for one belt ($45 for XL). I think it’s important to examine them each pre season but as you said they last a while!

[@paulklima409]

Speed isn't a problem for me. The feeling of security and quality of the stand is more important to me.

[@seansoutdoors]

👍

[@ThePatriotParadox]

Good to see all the differences kind is stands.. That's that main thing I news now... And a bow for my step son... Lol

[@seansoutdoors]

Great

[@KC-uq4nt]

How are you tied off to tree while using the hand climber? Were you wearing a saddle or was it a harness?

[@seansoutdoors]

I hunt with a saddle even when using my climber.

[@voiceforthevoicelesstruth5480]

One stick with the out on a limb top stick platform. 40’ Sterling oplux mad rock and rappel down by far the best way!

[@seansoutdoors]

Enjoy it but make sure you have straight trees. One stick is awful for leaning trees

[@voiceforthevoicelesstruth5480]

@@seansoutdoors yeah for sure or you swing out and hang helplessly 😂 I try to pick a straight basketball size tree!!

[@WILDEATS]

Awesome video, but as we all know, not all trees are created equal and crooked, leaning or split trees are most probable near ridge cliffs and or thickets and swamps. I'd like to see the set ups on imperfectly sized and shaped trees. Subbed!

[@seansoutdoors]

It would be the same as climbing that same tree with any other setup. Basically couldn't be done with a climber so using a climbing system with two ropes so that you can attach one above each branch before taking the other rope off under the branch, and then keep going.

[@JR-3030]

I recently bought a saddle, how long did it take you to get comfortable using yours?

[@seansoutdoors]

Not long but my friends also call me the monkey because of how comfortably I climb and move around in trees. I also have been shooting bows since 1978 so it's like second nature. So my curve is probably a lot shorter than most for getting used to it

[@jalton9416]

Very good video.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@inthemountainswithmeachum3256]

Yeah the arborist method is a backup emergency method. I've done it it's in incredible workout you get sweaty its cumbersome not fun when you trying to be stealthy in the deer woods. My set up is almost identical to yours actually which is kind of weird but I did use your ladder method because I was just using the naider swaider method And the ladder actually Lets me get higher with less Steps , Which is now less weight to carry

[@seansoutdoors]

👍

[@SellsZac]

There is one singular reason I run a hang-on versus a climber, in Southern Ohio and Northern Kentucky where I do the vast majority of my whitetail hunting, the trees I want to be in cover-wise are not climber friendly. I can get my Assault II Hang-on in pretty much any tree in the woods nomatter how snarly it looks. Your new system is the same, you could rap those little steps around branches easily.

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks for watching

[@scottjkern]

It’s a very cool set up filming how do you put everything together. But if you’re on your own Land, if it takes a little while putting a stand up once it’s up it is quicker climbing up at employment down instead of removing it every single time you go hunting

[@seansoutdoors]

Many of us are stuck with public land

[@vincentc2466]

Thanks!!!

[@seansoutdoors]

You bet

[@JayN4GO]

Very accurate timing

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks!

[@ThePatriotParadox]

Awesome climbing method... I am not as agile, but I have steps a bout a harness just hate that I gotta have a hang on... Wish I could just hang in the tree like with a saddle... Would be a lot easier

[@seansoutdoors]

Lol amen

[@TheSpeyfisher]

So depending on your area, you might not have a straight tree for the hand climbers? I wish you would have gone through the equipment and straps etc.thar one needs to complete the overall system. For instance, type of harness, steps and why you chose them, your overall beginning setup from beginning to end???? Thank you. Every climber I think, would be situational.

[@seansoutdoors]

How about checking out my videos on the topic? There are more than 20 kzbin.info/aero/PL-rtLON_MVhNbN7JaHClHFtCKqpjwqhyt

[@justinconrad5283]

Have you ever thought of using the hand climber top with your saddle?

[@seansoutdoors]

No. The predater platform seems to do fine

[@benallen4526]

Hi mate How can I order a hand climber or sit and climber? I live in Australia

[@seansoutdoors]

Check the internet I guess. I don't know. I've never been to your country.

[@jhuntley575]

Haha very cool demonstration

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@StevensStuff]

Thought. With the XOP sit and climb. The major downfall between it and the lone wolf is the Belt locking. Cam vs screw. I have the LW hand climber and I'm waiting for XOP sit and climb to get here. Making the switch for comfort. Would have rathered the LW sit and climb for the cam belt system but didn't think it was worth the extra $$$ just for the cams. So I went with the XOP for the money saving and figure I could live with the screw belt locking system. Now here's the thing...what takes the most time is unscrewing the knobs all the way, adjusting the belt and then re screwing the knobs. But realistically we only need a short section of threads near the top for the knob to grab and secure the system for opening. So maybe removing, say 3/4 of the threads, on the screws bottom side would allow the knobs to thread 1/4 of the screws length and then just slide the rest of the way? Move the belt, then slide back up to the threads and re thread to secure the belt. To me it seems like this would alleviate most of the cons of this screw belt locking system. I can not say for certain being that I have not even gotten mine yet. If I was to try this when I do get it I would prolly use a metal file lightly remove the threads. Sean, I would love to hear what you thought about this idea. Would you feel that not having to unscrew the knob the whole way would be a big benefit? Possibly even bring this XOP closer to the LW level? Thanks for the great content and thoughtful videos.

[@seansoutdoors]

It would definitely speed up and quiet down the process. The problem becomes liability. Not using a product as a manufacturer depicts brings liability onto yourself and if there is an accident it is on you. It sounds like your idea could work but you'll need to consider the liability issue as well as making sure that it stays properly engaged and doesn't come unscrewed with all that extra play in it if you don't screw it all the way back in. And I couldn't recommend doing it die to the liability issue mentioned, but you are free to make your own choices. Maybe get the stand and test it out for a while as it is intended as you consider these things.

[@StevensStuff]

@@seansoutdoors Agreed. Thanks for the response.

[@McXyu]

great!

[@seansoutdoors]

👍

[@DavidGonzalez-ek3zh]

My lone wolf assault 2 and 3 sticks is way easier that the larger lone wolf. I also use 1 or 2 screw in steps at ground level to eliminate a 4th stick and still get 18' easily. Thx for your comparison!

[@seansoutdoors]

Sure thing. Many states on public land don't allow screw in steps so that may not work for everyone but glad it does for you.

[@corymattson6350]

Good job sorting through this - appreciate the effort - Good Hunting <

[@seansoutdoors]

Thanks

[@truenorth1355]

It was a clean tree, sit and climb if there’s work on the way up rules the day.

[@seansoutdoors]

👍

[@deanvarelas5311]

The best stand I own is A tree walker. Unfortunately they are no longer made. It is sturdy and made for a heavier guy (235lbs)

[@seansoutdoors]

Nice

[@omegaman6770]

I hunt out of a Treewalker as well and love it ! Rock solid in the tree and comfy for an all day hunt ! Damn shame they went out of business due to the owners health issues. Have to really keep your eyes open online if you want to buy one used cause they are rarely for sale !

[@phillipcoiner4232]

Lone wolf make a snap on quiver to hold the sticks to the hang on

[@seansoutdoors]

Yup.

[@Jeep-Addicts]

What hand climbing stand is it.

[@seansoutdoors]

Lone wolf hand climber II

[@ML-ks2lj]

How are then hand climbers for getting into a spot stealthy and out stealthy for the hunt

[@seansoutdoors]

They work well if you have a straight tree with no branches.

[@tylercarder581]

I love the packability and quickness of the hand climber but I couldn't imagine how uncomfortable it is .

[@seansoutdoors]

I have used it for about 15 years and I don't think it is all that uncomfortable.

[@mattdixon9206]

Bro you should check out the EQUALIZER Leveling Climber by Buckshot MFG

[@seansoutdoors]

👍

[@bushcraftingterranaut4755]

Just had to run outside to tell my wife I missed a call from Sean. I've never had someone from KZbin call me before lol

[@seansoutdoors]

Lol, congrats!

[@christiancaputo6839]

I would love to see summit thrown in the mix as their cable system seems much more efficient than the XOP

[@seansoutdoors]

It's not in the budget right now but if I ever get one I'll review it.