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Rat Vision – Skateboard Tech

Rat Vision – Skateboard Tech

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@Mooondoggy
@Mooondoggy 10 жыл бұрын
this guy's taken blaming his board to a whole new level
@RatVision
@RatVision 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, This may seem way way out there. It's not intended at all for the average skater. This is more of an advanced level thing, for those who want consistency with their boards. Sure, once you grind a little off the deck, or the trucks lean to one side the deck is not perfectly balanced anymore, but it is actually balanced. It still has a center point, are center area. Every deck is different, and many skaters, including pros, have to adjust to the inconsistencies. It can be very frustrating every single time to adjust to a new deck. Higher level skaters go through decks more often, so they deal with this issue more. AND OF COURSE a lot of people think this is stupid and not for them or way over thinking, and stupid OCD. That's fine. People just want to go skate, and so do I. Again, its not for everyone. I personally know that Rodney Mullen does this. Most pros don't do this, because they don't know about it. Not every pro is completely educated and knows everything about skate products and how they function. They are just very talented skaters. Anyway, what this does is eliminate the struggle of adjusting to the inconsistencies from one deck to another, and having a deck that flips more symmetrically and flips much closer to a center axis. Why does that matter? You can learn tricks faster, have better flips more consistently (yes, the word of the day), slam less often, and ride deck after deck that flips the same way. It's just an added advantage, and a lot of skaters care about having the best equipment. Pro golfers, hockey players, tennis players, baseball players, surfers, snowboarders, and skaters cannot use sticks or 2x4's as their equipment/setup. They possess all the talent and skills within themselves and their body to be professional athletes, but they can not be pros without the right equipment/setup. The information in this video is absolutely true. It does improve skating. Is it silly, weird, dumb, a waste of time, and overthinking? Of course to a lot of people, absolutely. But some people do care.
@kanescrimes4848
@kanescrimes4848 8 жыл бұрын
I wish I could give this comment a million more likes.
@999Burek666
@999Burek666 8 жыл бұрын
Little detail here little detail there and you have few % more chance to land a trick. But real question is, is it worth it so much time.
@freshskateboards3786
@freshskateboards3786 8 жыл бұрын
Lol nope!
@freshskateboards3786
@freshskateboards3786 8 жыл бұрын
amen bro. It's not about the board being perfectly balanced by lead tape. The deck is already not balanced with the nose being 1/2" Longer than the tail from the start. Also most flip tricks arent about needing a perfectly balanced deck, its about being able to catch your trick.
@999Burek666
@999Burek666 8 жыл бұрын
***** I saw a man today that skated with no nose on his board he could do everything that he doeas on normal board. Seems that we have that power to change possibility to our favor no matter the conditions.
@SincereDoper
@SincereDoper 10 жыл бұрын
spent 5 hours doing this and got it perfect, went and popped my first ollie and snapped my board. fuck my life.
@patboy1739
@patboy1739 10 жыл бұрын
Nope ,nope nope nope nope
@maximorodriguez5750
@maximorodriguez5750 10 жыл бұрын
doooood tht sucks
@ki11bunny
@ki11bunny 10 жыл бұрын
Buddy that is heart breaking
@VvvnimaL
@VvvnimaL 10 жыл бұрын
how do you snap a deck on an ollie...
@ki11bunny
@ki11bunny 10 жыл бұрын
VNIMAL landing incorrectly. very easy done. too much weight on the tail or nose or the centre of the board and snap.
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
THANKS! Rodney does balance his board. I ran into Daewon Song one day, (we actually know each other), and he had seen the video a few days prior. He totally agreed that a balanced board helps, and also mentioned how Rodney is really into it. This is a good thing, because a skater is only as good as his equipment will allow him to be. If it doesn't matter then why don't we still use the same boards from the 60's? Innovations allow the sport to progress. Keeping it current hinders progression.
@corydavis7042
@corydavis7042 10 жыл бұрын
Won't the board become unbalanced after one or two hours of skating anyways? Skateboarding is destructive and the board slowly diminishes in many fashions as you skate it anyways. Idk, but it seems to me like this would waste time that you could use getting familiar with your setup, popping properly and controlling the board with your feet
@RatVision
@RatVision 10 жыл бұрын
The board is still balanced even after some wear.
@jamesgarcia8789
@jamesgarcia8789 10 жыл бұрын
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech its called breaking in the board man no one really should worry about your board being imbalanced .. and ATM is a cheap board compare that to a chocolate or baker or habitat ... once you break in the board you dont have to worry about it being balanced because by that time you will already be used to it.
@adrenalineonwheels5116
@adrenalineonwheels5116 9 жыл бұрын
+Quinnton Parker not really
@luissteger
@luissteger 8 жыл бұрын
+Quinnton Parker area
@ganmetaru4900
@ganmetaru4900 8 жыл бұрын
+Cory Davis This is a complete waste of time, as Cory states. My boards last about 5 sessions skating, then they are done. Chipped, no paint (loses weight again), loses weight through fish tailing etc etc. it also depends on the concave, and the heights and usage of the nose and tail. It's a nice theory, but holds no practicality at all.
@KeatonStevens
@KeatonStevens 8 жыл бұрын
I want to see this guy skate, can anyone link me some of his stuff? He better be amazing pulling this balanced board shit
@Sk8bordinAdiction11
@Sk8bordinAdiction11 7 жыл бұрын
Keaton Stevens he said he does skate as hard anymore, he's mainly a filmer
@claudiakoning
@claudiakoning 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sk8bordinAdiction11 this video must be a joke, lol
@crimson1718
@crimson1718 9 жыл бұрын
Instructions not clear enough, got lead poisoning
@EvilPolitics
@EvilPolitics 9 жыл бұрын
Dumbass
@crimson1718
@crimson1718 9 жыл бұрын
***** I don't remember and doctor said I shouldn't eat lead anymore
@crimson1718
@crimson1718 9 жыл бұрын
***** I think so
@lumin444
@lumin444 5 жыл бұрын
you're supposed to wear gloves
@Dave2LA
@Dave2LA 9 жыл бұрын
I can really imagine a bunch of 12 year old chubby garage skaters doing that for hours while they can't even pop an ollie
@dragonit45
@dragonit45 9 жыл бұрын
I can honestly see that too haha i mean im 12 but i can kickflip heelflip varial flip and frontside heelflip ans like all the basics but everyone starts at different times i started 5 monthes ago and alot of my friends skate with me including skaters a little older than me so i got alot better really fast
@Dave2LA
@Dave2LA 9 жыл бұрын
+reyes18 try to spin back side then should give you a straight pop.
@Dave2LA
@Dave2LA 9 жыл бұрын
***** not with ollies but with other tricks like heelflips i had the problem of my body turing backside then i fixed it tryng to make a 90 fs heelflip.
@coconutsafari7049
@coconutsafari7049 8 жыл бұрын
+Anthony tolentino sick dude you got fs heels
@Dave2LA
@Dave2LA 8 жыл бұрын
***** the best way to improve ollies is jumping over obstacles, even if they are are small like 1 skateboard in the begining. Eventually you will get it properly
@JumboStevo
@JumboStevo 11 жыл бұрын
Thing is, after you skate on that for a couple of days it'll become unbalanced again.. I think it's too much work for what it's worth
@ajg8600
@ajg8600 6 жыл бұрын
JumboStevo if you do single trick on it itll do that lmao
@whmozart
@whmozart 8 жыл бұрын
Hey! Is anyone else not trying this, like... ever?
@scottryan5781
@scottryan5781 8 жыл бұрын
What up dude? this is way over-board...get it? Sorry...and Ja....not doing ever.
@zarekward7739
@zarekward7739 7 жыл бұрын
Scott Ryan yep
@mistaiced1864
@mistaiced1864 7 жыл бұрын
nope
@ericmiller4991
@ericmiller4991 2 жыл бұрын
Been skating 20 years now... No one and I mean fucking no one has ever not landed a trick due to an unbalanced board gtfooh these younger generations will look for any reason they can find to not take ownership for sucking at any one particular thing.. lol that's life yo. Not everyone will be good at shit get over it Jesus
@globman3
@globman3 9 жыл бұрын
do a few tricks and get slight razor tail, now the weight is fucked again, there is no point in doing this..
@sonnytaranto9821
@sonnytaranto9821 9 жыл бұрын
Gary Burger you are exactly right this guy over thinks it way too much
@Mark.Christian
@Mark.Christian 9 жыл бұрын
Gary Burger he never post a video that he doing tricks or riding it.
@southsideshenanigans
@southsideshenanigans 6 жыл бұрын
+CYonezu agreed. Complete overkill
@fckdis5241
@fckdis5241 10 жыл бұрын
This video was good education, I watched it 4 months ago before I went to buy a complete new set, I balanced the board as much as humanly possible, and I do notice a slight difference, Varial flips, and 360's are A LOT easier for me now, and it's common for me to land them without having to much trouble, but do keep in mind I have skated for a long time, so don't assume this alone will make you a better skater, it'll just make life a little easier for the good skaters, you still need hard dedication and work. ^^
@RatVision
@RatVision 10 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who gets it. It's not going to make someone better. That's all skill. All it does is improve the board. It's just like having the right golf clubs, car for racing, scope for a gun, etc. The right parts an equipment make the job a lot easier. This does not make someone better, but subsequently they do become better by landing tricks easier.
@fckdis5241
@fckdis5241 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video at least, it has done its purpose with me.
@aaroncaralho2599
@aaroncaralho2599 9 жыл бұрын
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech No it's stupid, after one day of skating the board is "unbalanced" just by normal wear. It's interesting from a technical standpoint, and to demonstrate the imperfections of decks, but in a practical sense it's quite useless. Maybe if you are invited to Tampa Pro or Street League...
@fckdis5241
@fckdis5241 9 жыл бұрын
milan0 It does in fact help, not only from a technical standpoint but also a psychological improvement. Of course it's going to get unbalanced again. But you can always rebalance it after a month, I've been doing it for about more than a year now on several decks.
@duicwb
@duicwb 9 жыл бұрын
+Fck dis (Aelax3) pick up a skateboard from some friend and compare to you skating your skateboard... and let's see the results...
@lucidclarke6319
@lucidclarke6319 10 жыл бұрын
Name one pro that does this. There's no way they do. If you watch skateboarding a pro will break a board trying a trick and grab anybody's board that their with and land the trick, getting consistent with tricks is from practice not this balanced board bullshit.
@RatVision
@RatVision 10 жыл бұрын
You're thinking about skill and the board as one thing. If you don't get it, you don't get it.
@coreyv7580
@coreyv7580 10 жыл бұрын
TheTomoyo3000 They are pros for a reason. Because they mastered most of the tricks. Doing stuff like this will help things like tre flips or hard flips, Where the board being balanced will mean land or premo
@jamestown12345
@jamestown12345 8 жыл бұрын
+ElHajen Mullen mentions he used to add 2-3 bb's wrapped in electrical tape inside of riser pockets to change balance and add more weight toward board side using Indy trucks in a vid. I Forget which video, think it was an interview
@likemikebandtv
@likemikebandtv 8 жыл бұрын
MY ENTIRE BOARD IS COVERED IN LEAD TAPE AND WEIGHS 30 LBS NOW YOU OWE ME A NEW BOARD!!!!!!!
@ImFitzyOfficial
@ImFitzyOfficial 10 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that also weight the board down? Everyone has bad days skating, doesn't mean you need to start sticking rounded pieces of shit on it.
@RatVision
@RatVision 10 жыл бұрын
No it won't weigh the board down. It's ok if you don't get it.
@gui_sk8515
@gui_sk8515 10 жыл бұрын
It is weighing the board down in all of you videos you act like you know about skating but you don't even skate
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
We didn't use 4 quarters because it was not the exact amount of weight as 4 quarters. It was to give you an idea of how much weight could possibly be added. It's very minimal. Some boards could be much less. You never know how much of weight you need to add and where you need to add it. The lead tape may need to be added near the rail and the nose or tail. The tape allows for adjusting the weight easier.
@Tatoru91
@Tatoru91 8 жыл бұрын
And I thought I was neurotic about my setup. Seriously people just make sure your trucks are straight. This is just insanity. You're mind and body if you have even a week's experience of skating should make all the compensation you need if your board is "Unbalanced" Lmfao. This isn't for "advanced" skaters. It's just a gimmick.
@RatVision
@RatVision 8 жыл бұрын
How do you know your trucks are straight? Don't you ever complain about your setup? Don't you ever have those days where you know you're doing things right but your board just isn't flipping right? You could say it's just practice, or it actually could be your board. Measure your deck from the edge to the truck mounting holes, and do the same from the other side. Most likely the trucks are mounted straight, but they could be more on one side. You think this is just a gimmick, but that's just because you don't know physics, so you talk like you're an expert. You don't even think about wheel base, but wheel base from the holes to the tail and that effects leverage and pop. You just assume everything is perfect and it's all about the skater's skill level and practice. If that's true, why aren't we still skating the same tiny solid wood decks with metal wheels? I'm sure everyone thought urethane wheels were a gimmick too, right? Who needs better urethane wheels, when it's all about "experience" and practice? Who cares about faster bearings or lighter trucks, just push harder and workout your legs for higher pop, right? You don't need a better setup, because everything is a "gimmick".
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! Some people totally get it and others still think the world is flat. Thank you for your support.
@FLFrostBite
@FLFrostBite 10 жыл бұрын
Remember everyone, if you don't have rubber gloves, then use band aids on your fingertips.
@julesl6910
@julesl6910 4 жыл бұрын
Lead poisoning is completely avoidable, people don't lift lit candles by the wick.
@FLFrostBite
@FLFrostBite 4 жыл бұрын
Il Papa yes
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear you did it. You may have used more than was needed. You really shouldn't have to use too much if you place it the right spots.
@jamesgarcia8789
@jamesgarcia8789 10 жыл бұрын
yeah this could be a reason for not landing tricks but it also comes down to just adjusting with the unevenness ... you dont see andrew reynolds doing this when he sets up a board i mean if you want to use as an excuse for not properly skating then go ahead but just saying all this is not needed and in the end will take the whole fun aspect out of skating... i can really only see poser rich kids that act they skate doing something like this ...
@henri2140
@henri2140 10 жыл бұрын
in competetive sports a bit fo balance can mean a lot. i wouldnt do this at all (so, sooo far away from that skill level to notice a difference), but i can see it being useful
@bakerpe6733
@bakerpe6733 10 жыл бұрын
+James Garcia Some real shit
@tuffel
@tuffel 10 жыл бұрын
skateboarding is not a competitive sport,- x-games wanna tell you that it is maybe ?
@LaWLF4iL
@LaWLF4iL 9 жыл бұрын
Baker PE you're really gonna play the sarcasm card because someone disagrees? very professional. weight has nothing to do with it, you need to catch the board WHILE its rotating. The second you pop an ollie or do a slide, its gonna grind matter away from the board and instantly make it unbalanced again. This is a fucking stupid idea. learn to skate and catch your fucking deck, it literally makes no difference. plus arent meant to be balanced, they are not symmetrical. fucking dipshit. if anyone sees this comment, DONT WASTE YOUR TIME. go learn to skate and perfect your TECHNIQUE instead of looking up videos and trying to find a quick fix. let me tell you right now, it cant and wont work.
@rodjato
@rodjato 9 жыл бұрын
tuffel that is bs and you know it... some sess are chill and some others get competitive. Skaters are some of the most competitive people I know, even if everyone is happy when someone lands something cool
@vayunbiyani
@vayunbiyani 8 жыл бұрын
nonsense!!! it makes your board heavier if u want to land more tricks ,improve ur balance not the board's
@andreyofdoom
@andreyofdoom 11 жыл бұрын
As an ex-skateboarder and current tennis coach and player I find this video great! There are thousands of ways to customize a tennis racquet with thought-out lead placement and it makes a huge difference in the way you play. It also MATCHES your racquets which are all slightly different due to production error (same brand, same model). What ignorant commenters are missing from this video is that this lets you get a new deck yet not have a big adjustment period to it!
@skateboarde123456789
@skateboarde123456789 8 жыл бұрын
Or just don't suck at skating
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
This is happening from your bushings/truck. Sometimes after landing a trick or pressing the board to one side a truck can stick a little. This is completely normal, and while riding everything is fine. Your weight evens it all out.
@shosho1080
@shosho1080 10 жыл бұрын
with all respect, i believe some skateboards are supposed to be made imbalanced. some boards' noses are made bigger, some boards' sides are not parallel, some boards even have square tails. and if you skate, you know boards get worn out soon changing their weights. above all, i'm pretty sure skateboards' developers know much more than this guy:)
@RatVision
@RatVision 10 жыл бұрын
"Supposed to be made imbalanced". That is absolutely ridiculous. Who makes a product purposely bad. Surprisingly skateboard manufacturers are mostly Chinese. It's pretty obvious you're young and new to skateboarding.
@RatVision
@RatVision 10 жыл бұрын
***** You were right on, so I don't see why you disagree. That is the whole point with balancing equipment. It's to correct the imperfections and inconsistencies in manufacturing. it's why golfers and tennis players use lead tape, because even those machined parts are not perfect.
@muhammadrazashahhash
@muhammadrazashahhash 10 жыл бұрын
***** did u really have to say that lol
@Bromega30
@Bromega30 9 жыл бұрын
+shosho1080 you can't argue with physics man
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
It doesn't hurt to do it at beginner level. You just won't notice a difference. The reason is that you don't consistently flip the board the way someone experienced is able to do. Experienced skaters can feel the difference from one board to another. So they will be able to feel the benefits of a balanced board.
@markrrobinson7681
@markrrobinson7681 8 жыл бұрын
I put bearings inside my trucks, if that makes sense? If not, on the underside of the baseplate there is normally a pocket/cavity. put a few in there, it helped me tons, and I recently discovered the great Rodney mullen does this
@timothystrobehn1592
@timothystrobehn1592 8 жыл бұрын
did it really help u tons
@markrrobinson7681
@markrrobinson7681 8 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
If you don't get it, and you don't care to improve your equipment that's entirely up to you. You don't have to like this or agree with it. You can put the lead tape in places you don't touch, and you may not need to place it in areas where you might touch it. You can cover it with a sticker too.
@enriquesanz-gadea3966
@enriquesanz-gadea3966 6 жыл бұрын
A better option for getting the point in the center the of the board is to drawing a line from the lower right bolt hole of the nose to the upper right bolt hole of the tail. Then you do the same with the oposite ones so you end up having a cross. The point where both lines cross is the exact center.
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
If you don't have wheel bite you don't need them. They are also used to obviously raise the deck more off the ground. That is seriously a whole other video to go deep into. They don't have anything to do with prolonging the deck life. It just creates a different feeling like all parts do. It does effect tricks because now the tail has a farther distance to travel before hitting the ground, which causes the front leg to bend more as the nose gets higher. This can cause a slower but higher ollie.
@Sprinkles-BtE
@Sprinkles-BtE 10 жыл бұрын
The problem with this video is a large majority of street skaters *pride* themselves in a "fuck that shit" attitude. They see this as nerdy bullshit, and they're the type to want to beat up nerds, not listen to them. Thus, I can totally understand why this video gets so much hate. With that, keep up the good work guys. You guys need to get in to snowboard equipment. I would be your first subscriber!
@zachmorgan6283
@zachmorgan6283 10 жыл бұрын
You're one of the most ignorant people I have seen in my life.
@filipematias2239
@filipematias2239 10 жыл бұрын
Nop, this is just plain bullshit...
@LaWLF4iL
@LaWLF4iL 9 жыл бұрын
you must not skate. this idea makes no fucking sense. its a horrible gimmicky waste of time and this guy is a total moron.
@nickfannin2140
@nickfannin2140 9 жыл бұрын
The stupidity in this comment is "TOO DAMN HIGH"
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
It's not about making your skill level better. What this does is make the board better. There is a difference. If you don't get it then ask yourself why you wear shoes that fit, or why a car tire needs to be balanced.
@JachiJstar
@JachiJstar 11 жыл бұрын
This may balance your board but in my opinion you don't need it just get to know your board and Go skate
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. You're right. It's a slow process to becoming unbalanced, which is better than skating something completely lopsided.
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea. If you're "good enough" u can land tricks on old metal wheel boards from the 60's. That's what you're saying right? So, pretty much if your good enough to land tricks it doesn't matter what board u ride because you're good enough to land tricks on anything. Which means the equipment has nothing to with it. I think I get it now. It's all about skill and not about equipment. That means baseball players can hit home runs with hockey sticks, cool. I've got to delete this video.
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks nice comment.Glad to see someone gets it. Most everyone seems to be thinking that skill and equipment are the same thing, and that it doesn't matter what we skate all, it all takes practice. You could possess all the skill to be the next Rodney Mullen, but you can't be good or better if you skate on a 1960's board with metal wheels. Because that board doesn't have the attributes necessary to perform tricks. This video improves equipment, like urethane did for wheels, and that isn't skill.
@johnpark3079
@johnpark3079 9 жыл бұрын
Now let's see some of the footage that you were talking about.
@raidacaipo
@raidacaipo 10 жыл бұрын
Youre fucken kidding me right?
@sk8_bort
@sk8_bort 9 жыл бұрын
Spend more time balancing yourself, don't blame the board please....
@vitunpelle602
@vitunpelle602 5 жыл бұрын
The balance in the board he is talking about is when its in the air, for example when youre doing a kickflip the board might start turning into a different directions.
@julesl6910
@julesl6910 4 жыл бұрын
Here's a perfect example of someone who is not listening at all. When the board is flipping in the air you don't get to control it. It is controlled by the weight and physics of the board. If you kick a soccer ball at the goal and it has uneven weight distribution, it will spin off in the wrong direction. It's a ball, you can't predict which side is weighted and where to kick it to make it go straight while you're in movement. The same goes for anything else, especially a skateboard. You're manipulating a multi-dimensional object and ideally you want it to be evenly weighted so that when you apply force to make it spin, it does so in a predictable manner.
@blowingmindsBHBM
@blowingmindsBHBM 12 жыл бұрын
thanks man i been skating for awhile and honestly never thought about balancing my board, cant wait to see if it helps out
@IsaanBoy
@IsaanBoy 8 жыл бұрын
I get my lead from a Flint distributor.
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
Exactly! You have to know what you are doing. All this does is improve the board. Everyone still has to learn the tricks. When you know the tricks, and do them right with a board that flips perfectly, you can lands tricks easier/sooner and more often. Thanks for the comment.
@bennymuniz9697
@bennymuniz9697 11 жыл бұрын
i dont even skate... why am i here...
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest comment. Finally someone who gets it. It's not for everyone.
@OrganicGreens
@OrganicGreens 9 жыл бұрын
If you changed the title to how to balance your skateboard there would be less hate. I couldnt give a shit tho your videos are sick
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
You could but it's actually much easier to balance the deck first. You could put the grip tape on first but you'd have to put the lead tape somewhere else. Placing it under the grip tape hides it perfectly out of the way. If you need to put lead tape next to the edge of the deck it would get torn off when doing slide. Plus, you'd end up touching the tape too.
@benjamincordova920
@benjamincordova920 10 жыл бұрын
thnx this helps and for you all haters don't hate go skate
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
Your front foot is only used to control and level the board after the board pops into the air. It's really all in the back foot. You can ollie without hardly moving the front foot at all (but you will land back on the tail). The front foot is just used to push the nose flat/level after you pop the board. So, stop kicking the board. Try not doing anything with your front foot and just work on your pop. Eventually you'll start to feel how it all works. The ollie is the hardest trick to learn.
@TheKpSteez
@TheKpSteez 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, my bmx bike has hollow tubes in the frame, handlebars, and forks. Should I maybe fill it with cement so it balances out the weight from having my pegs on the right side?
@RatVision
@RatVision 8 жыл бұрын
Yes! You should totally do it. If heard if you eat it, it could help with your body too.
@TheNavy99
@TheNavy99 8 жыл бұрын
+Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech hahaha dude u r fucking guts hahha
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
You're right, but that wear is gradual over time. You'll be using a balanced board, and while it wears away it is still going to perform better than it did unbalanced to begin with.
@oblskater9310
@oblskater9310 8 жыл бұрын
6:00 don't forget to mall grab afterwards
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
You can adjust the tape, or keep riding. Of course the board will not be perfectly balanced after it wears down in areas, but it's not going to be as lopsided as it would be without lead tape.
@evansimpson6652
@evansimpson6652 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like you guys (while being incredibly informative don't get me wrong) sometimes are overthinking skateboarding
@RatVision
@RatVision 8 жыл бұрын
+Evan Simpson Yes, This may seem way way out there. It's not intended at all for the average skater. This is more of an advanced level, for those who want consistency with their boards. Sure once you grind a little off the deck, or the trucks lean to one side the deck is not perfectly balanced anymore, but it is actually balanced. It still has a center point, are center area. Every deck is different, and many skaters, including pros, have to adjust to the inconsistencies. It can be very frustrating every single time to adjust to a new deck. Higher level skaters go through decks more often, so they deal with this issue more. AND OF COURSE a lot of people think this is stupid and not for them or way over thinking, and stupid OCD. That's fine. People just want to go skate, and so do I. Again, its not for everyone. I personally know that Rodney Mullen does this. Most pros don't do this, because they don't know about it. Not every pro is completely educated and knows everything about skate products and how they function. They are just very talented skaters. Anyway, what this does is eliminate the struggle of adjusting to the inconsistencies from one deck to another, and having a deck that flips more symmetrically and flips much closer to a center axis. Why does that matter? You can learn tricks faster, have better flips more consistently (yes, the word of the day), slam less often, and ride deck after deck that flips the same way. It's just an added advantage, and a lot of skaters care about having the best equipment. Pro golfers, hockey players, tennis players, baseball players, surfers, snowboarders, and skaters cannot use sticks or 2x4's as their equipment/setup. They possess all the talent and skills within themselves and their body to be professional athletes, but they can not be pros without the right equipment/setup. The information in this video is absolutely true. It does improve skating. Is it silly, weird, dumb, a waste of time, and overthinking? Of course to a lot of people, absolutely. But some people do care.
@evansimpson6652
@evansimpson6652 8 жыл бұрын
+Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech hey guys regardless of what I said you're super educated down there! Shred on🤘🏻
@ARWAIRSOFT
@ARWAIRSOFT 8 жыл бұрын
copy and paste to the max
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
It may not be serious. You may have actually purchased it that way and noticed it later. A lot of decks are sold warped, almost everyone never notice it. The best way to see how much a deck is warped is to lay it on a flat surface where the nose and tail hang off the end. If the deck is warp it will rock back and forth on the surface and you can see how warped it is. Try this and get back to us.
@dwill5724
@dwill5724 8 жыл бұрын
pointless
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
You're right about people, but I can still spin a top at different speeds. I can balance a stick on my finger with varying wind. I can also flip something in my hand and catch it the same way no matter how hard or how high I throw it in the air. You can take a stick and flip it in one time in the air at 2 feet high or 10 feet high. There's different power and force and mood there too, but the same result. You're missing the point about improving equipment, and realizing that skill is separate.
@LowRaaT
@LowRaaT 10 жыл бұрын
just fucking skate
@legacysage
@legacysage 6 жыл бұрын
That's very cool. I don't know if I necessarily agree with the lead tape aspect, but from a logical standpoint this makes a lot of sense. There's a lot you don't need to do to a skateboard in order to become good at doing tricks, but that doesn't mean that those things won't help you. If there's one thing that tires me about the skate community, it's that they're too complacent and stubborn to attempt to innovate anything. "That's the way it was done, so that's the best way!"
@Sebastian_2000
@Sebastian_2000 8 жыл бұрын
that hairline though
@taytopotato3042
@taytopotato3042 7 жыл бұрын
mr stabby 78 he looks like the lead singer of sum41 xD
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stoping by San Diego!
@TheCARTEL323
@TheCARTEL323 10 жыл бұрын
dude r u kidding
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
This works for all levels of skating but the only people who will notice are those who are more advanced, because they can feel the difference. Avid skaters are more consistent when flipping. They can feel the difference between a balanced and unbalanced board. Someone who is not consistent with flipping won't notice, but their equipment is perfect. This only makes the board better. It does not increase skill.
@xtreemfbqueef
@xtreemfbqueef 10 жыл бұрын
do you even skate?
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
Wow, finally someone with a brain. We were actually going to show a a water bottle or a hammer, but we felt that people were smarter and would actually understand this. We were wrong. Thanks for the great comment, you nailed it.
@danielvanderzee6730
@danielvanderzee6730 7 жыл бұрын
I still suck
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
Every board has different weight difference. The quarters were just to give you an idea of the amount of weight needed. Since every board is different you can't just tape 4 quarters on it.
@jean3671
@jean3671 8 жыл бұрын
this guy is ridiculous >
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
Dur! Did you miss the part where we say this is for advanced skaters. You still have to have skill. You can't slap on Air Jordan's and slam dunk. All this does is correct the balance of the board for even, balanced flip rotations. It eliminates the issue of the board being the reason why a skater can't figure why he can't flip the board right, WHEN he knows he is doing right (because he has the skill.) Now do you get it?
@tommynnd
@tommynnd 10 жыл бұрын
This is stupid. Here the reason, add more weight to the board make harder to do flip trip
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
It's not wasted because is wears down slowly, and you start with a balanced board rather than lopsided.
@GreatGraix
@GreatGraix 10 жыл бұрын
This is bullshit... The time you put into 'balancing the board' is not worth all the work, plus it will suck even more when you break a board...
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
It's your bushings. You probably like them tight. While riding your body weight makes it even. If this isn't the case you may have a bad pivot cup or need to replace your bushings.
@xbreyy25
@xbreyy25 10 жыл бұрын
land more tricks, dont watching this video
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
It's in your head. That Eric Koston deck started out as a blank until they put a pretty graphic on it that you paid extra for.
@fgDAB
@fgDAB 10 жыл бұрын
Why did I waste my time...
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
Seemed pretty simple to us and worked out pretty good too.
@Dontbustthecrust
@Dontbustthecrust 7 жыл бұрын
I'm 27 and have been skating since I was 10. This is definitely not necessary. Don't bother.
@RatVision
@RatVision 7 жыл бұрын
Ever tried it? I've been skating far longer than you, worked with pros, and film them. So, please let me know how this is unnecessary, and i'll delete it.
@tomiiiiiiiiiii
@tomiiiiiiiiiii 7 жыл бұрын
maybe because it does fucking nothing. if you cant land the trick you just suck.
@Dontbustthecrust
@Dontbustthecrust 7 жыл бұрын
+Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech, it's cost benefit analysis. I'm sure it balances your board the same way it'll balance a golf club, but the time and effort could not be worth it. Like someone else commented if can't land a trick then you just suck. The time it takes to do this is better spent on your board. I'm sure you've convinced a lot people in your day this is a good idea but if it isn't common practice, which it isn't then that's proof of how unimportant it is to balance your skateboard.
@Dontbustthecrust
@Dontbustthecrust 3 жыл бұрын
@@RatVision after all these years this is still terrible advice. Have you reconsidered your stance? Do you still do this everytime you set up a new board? Do you have a response at all?
@jamenbrooks95
@jamenbrooks95 9 жыл бұрын
If you can't balance on a skateboard, you don't need one
@bobbykeeler5096
@bobbykeeler5096 11 жыл бұрын
Dont listen to these guys man, your doing such a good job teaching people, having led tape is barely going to add weight to your board and improve balance to flip and spin tricks evenly, have anybody ever thought of when you push your board, your board goes into a different direction instead of straight? Because your trucks are unbalanced and shifted to one side like he mentioned in this video, Good job skateboardtech, you helped me out alot.
@95dank
@95dank 10 жыл бұрын
waste of time and money.
@TheKohlslaw
@TheKohlslaw 12 жыл бұрын
Usually something that would require as much patience as this would drive me crazy, but I'm gonna buy a board specifically for learning tricks and try this out. Thanks for uploading these videos, I've learned a lot :D
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
Woo. These trucks will be featured in our video that is coming out about trucks and different metals used.
@andrewdsilva21510
@andrewdsilva21510 12 жыл бұрын
this is actually really cook, im going to buy a new complete next week and when i put it all together i will definitely try this, thanks!
@Grungebobsquarepantz
@Grungebobsquarepantz 11 жыл бұрын
Plus, the thing I love about skateboarding is the freedom to do whatever I want. Same for some pros. Not all professional level skaters are sponsored.
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right, adding lead tape is not going to make me better. Did wearing Nike high-top shoes ever make anyone slam dunk? Everyone still has to develop the skills to perform tricks. Any object that is balanced will rotate evenly. When a deck is unbalanced you as a skater have to compensate for the deck. When the board is balanced the whole deck is even. It will increase your chances of landing tricks more becuz now the board flips the way it should. A little lead tape works.
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
Of course the balance will change. The important thing is starting with a board that is balanced. Every board has a random balance point that throws the board off, and your mind and body every time you switch decks. If you balanced each deck you road it would be more like riding your last deck. The wear is also more even. Just because the deck gets wear it still can be better then a deck that is not balanced.
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
You need new bushings. If you like your trucks really tight sometimes this can happen, or if the bushings are too soft and you tighten the kingpin nut way down. If you do like your trucks tight, get harder bushings. This should definitely solve your problem.
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
It's not undetectable. The imbalance is there on all boards. Weight is added in various ways all the time. 10 years ago the most common width of a board was 7.75". Now it is 8" or 8.25". That increased the weight not only in the deck, but the amount of grip tape, and ALSO the width in trucks. Besides the deck, trucks, grip, bearings, and wheels all have different weights. Not all boards require a lot of weight added. Don't forget your own body weight will change how much pop you get.
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
This video was created for those who want to get better performance out of their board. It should make sense to anyone with half a brain. If something is going to rotate or spin evenly it needs to be balanced. Car tires are balanced. The Earth is balanced! This doesn't mess up any method. It improves skatings. We don't expect people to get it right away. Young people are so insecure that they have to hate and ridicule something first until someone "cool" tries it first. Then it's OK.
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
Ha. This is ONLY for those who care about taking their skating to another level. It makes sense that a skater who has good skill would want to make sure his board performs perfectly. I've personally talked with Daewon Song about this because Rodney Mullen balances his board, and Daewon agreed that balancing a board works.
@RatVision
@RatVision 12 жыл бұрын
This is a lesson a lot of people have learned. Do not buy decks on ebay. There are a lot of skateboard shops online that sell decks for less than $60 too.
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
This video has nothing to do with feet position or skill level. This is about improving equipment, so it doesn't matter where your feet are because it's about how the board is rotating when flipping.
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
It doesn't go under the deck where you would board slide. Lead tape is razor thin so you won't feel it and you can't see it under the grip either.
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Of course this is not for everyone. We didn't expect it to be. We also didn't expect a ton of ignorance and closed minds. This is only to show how to improve a decks performance. It's no different than how a Tennis or Golf player uses lead tape, and yet no one calls "bullshit" on that. Sure this may be anal retentive, but some people are into perfection. Some pros actually do this, and the majority of pros are anal about their setups.
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
No. you can put the tape anywhere that makes the deck balanced. Lead tape is so thin that you won't be able to see it once it's under the grip tape.
@sudo9866
@sudo9866 4 жыл бұрын
So stoked I was able to find a video on someone balancing a board the old way, I was just explaining this to a skater (and potentially a future pro) as an older pro I used to use this trick myself about 10 to 15 years ago. And so did everyone else. But apparently this is extremely uncommon today.
@ChrisFromKenya
@ChrisFromKenya 11 жыл бұрын
i see what your saying dude but i had those days and i think its mostly knowing your foot placement and attitude. i try to always have fun and it just helps me focus on anything like hand rails, gaps anything big. But good video man
@RatVision
@RatVision 11 жыл бұрын
That's why you don't put the tape where it might touch anything, like under the wheel next to the baseplate.
@HypermaxZ
@HypermaxZ 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome how you applied static balancing to skateboard decks! Makes sense!
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