Best Value Camera for Video - Panasonic G9

This camera's a bargain to me, let me know if you agree and flame me if not!
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[@Behnam_Moghaddam]

as a G9 user i obviously agree. just wanted to add 2cents: in the 6k photo mode you can change the "rec method" to 6k burst (s/s) to press the shutter once to start and again to stop so you don't have to hold it. pair this "open gate" with the sirui anamorphics and you get 16:9 (4:3 x 1.33:1 =5.33:3)

[@ShotByMyles]

Oh damn I didn't know that, thanks, appreciate the input!!

[@Behnam_Moghaddam]

@@ShotByMylesI got to thank you for your effort. Great video. as usual :) makes me rethink my s5-GAS

[@ShotByMyles]

Behnam Moghaddam thank you very much! The GAS got me so I can’t pretend to preach haha

[@Behnam_Moghaddam]

@@ShotByMyles haha! at least your GAS is in our all's favor :) looking forward (if I may). I waited with the G9 to get cheaper to buy but in retrospect I missed out a year with a camera that still makes me happy. Curious to hear about your thoughts on the S5 - I don't need it... wait for a successor of the 2 mft top models? So tempting...

[@ShotByMyles]

Behnam Moghaddam I’m hearing good things about the S5, personally I’m a bit disappointed it didn’t get all-i shooting modes, it has a crop at 4K60, autofocus is still contrast-based and it has recording limits on some of the modes. Those are minor complaints in truth and I’m sure it’ll do great work, I like that it’s dual ISO and full frame, it’s just not something I’d rush for personally!

[@TestAndReview]

Good job, great video! Straight to the point with both the pros and the cons. Very accurately described the camera features, so if someone is aiming at the G9 they will have good understanding of what can be achieved with this Panasonic MFT camera.

[@TheGroovyGuitarDude]

I upgraded to the G9 from the G85 about 6 months ago and MAN, what an awesome upgrade it has been. This camera is an absolute beast and so well rounded after the most recent firmware update. The autofocus is the best I’ve used on any MFT camera so far, but does leave something to be desired at times. I find that it is very reliable in ideal conditions though, which works for the majority of my needs! Bottom line: and absolute unit of a camera for the $, and competes and outperforms many cameras well above its price-point!

[@ShotByMyles]

Very well said! And holy crap congrats on your KZbin success!

[@TheGroovyGuitarDude]

@@ShotByMyles Thanks so much dude! Best of luck with your channel, really dig your videos :)

[@ShotByMyles]

@@TheGroovyGuitarDude Much appreciated :)

[@ericmuijs1938]

I also thinking on upgrading. What are the most important upgrade features for you? I know mainly the AF is better.

[@ShotByMyles]

@@ericmuijs1938 I know this is late but in case it helps anyone else, I think the image quality is better, 4K slow motion up to 60P, 10 bit codecs and more buttons to customise make it better to use.

[@HermanvanHunnik]

As a photographer with the G9 and a casual video shooter I learned quite a few things from this video. Wow, it's even better than I thought!

[@ShotByMyles]

It’s a beast!

I have a G9 also, and this video is one of the best I saw about this incredible camera. Thank you. And by the way, great quality videos behind. I think I'm going to buy one of yours courses.👍

[@ShotByMyles]

Thank you José, I really appreciate the kind words!

[@1967JERUSALEM]

The Best relevant G9 review I seen so far !!! after three days of Searching here. Unbiased and professional

[@ShotByMyles]

Much appreciated!

[@lexipau]

I love my G9 + 14-140mm & DJI Osmo Action best for travelling very light and it is really versatile for video, vlog and casual photos.

[@nachohernandez9491]

Ive been going crazy looking for My new camera and finally watching your input on the g9 I'm sold Thanks....

[@ShotByMyles]

It's a good choice in my opinion, hope it works out for you! There are things with my new Canon R6 that are making me want to use the G9 instead which is crazy when I consider the cost difference!

[@nachohernandez9491]

@@ShotByMyles thanks for the responds truly appreciated

[@tabletopfilmmaker8360]

Awesome presentation and your GH/9 footage looks amazing. Subbed.

[@ShotByMyles]

Much appreciated!

[@ive595]

Have been using a G9 for a few months, and find myself using it more than GH5. It has improved my stills photography simply because I’m doing more. Did a short test when I got it and found auto focus to be more stable than the GH5, less hunting but

[@Cubasenet33]

Thank you for your good informative vid. It has helped me a lot to decide. Just ordered a G9.

[@ShotByMyles]

Much appreciated! Hope you love the camera

[@46ace]

I agree %100ove my g9 Lumix m4;3 has done everything I ( a"hobbyist") need in a camera since 2011.

[@JonBear]

woo fantastic comparison! The speedbooster crop comparison with full frame boys crop is such an important point. Speedbooster + EF give us wider view than apsc crops and people forget this. Putting big boys to shame! G9 really is incredible. I recommend it to people when they ask what camera to get for video. Ibis is so so incredible and I feel like a wobbly toddler without it. This is really a great video I can refer people to when they ask about cameras

[@ShotByMyles]

Thanks a lot Jon, I totally agree! The comparison to full frame really surprised me, I had to make sure I hadn’t accidentally cropped the R6 or something!

[@jorgeolivares3172]

I been using my G9 for a month now, came from canon D70, and I was canon since I was a teen, just wanted to take a leap for a change and I'm very pleased with my Lumix I'm still learning to use it thoe!

[@ShotByMyles]

It’s always a bit of a learning curve when you switch brands but I hope you enjoy it!

[@davidjohn9006]

Informative and well presented.

[@JamieLaval_official]

Really great review! Gets to the point immediately: bang for the buck. Thank you!

[@ShotByMyles]

Much appreciated Jamie!

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Thanks, Myles! Great video and I LOVE your footage. I agree the G9 is the winner for 2020. I've had mine for two years now and couldn't have been happier from switching from Sony FF to Panasonic M43. I started with Canon, moved to Sony, then Fuji, then back to Sony, and finally with Panasonic and my journey stopped. It's the whole package that makes the G9 so good, at ANY price point, and the fact that it is SO CHEAP is just crazy. It is such a high quality machine!

[@ShotByMyles]

I totally agree, except your experience counts for more than mine given all the systems you’ve owned so it’s great to have your perspective, thanks!

[@keithnisbet]

I agree. I have G9 since January. So many times I see the new gear videos on FF etc. But I don’t see any camera so well constructed with so many features for so much less cost than any of the latest and greatest. I’m thinking of getting another just for vidéo with the log upgrade since it’s under $1K vs all the rest at $2K+ . I love this camera!

[@davidsyw1]

5:09 I have had my G9 since Jan/2018 which replaced my G7 purchased in 2015 when I seriously considered Sony A6000 but for the overheating issues. While recording stage performances in 30C temperature at a street festival with sun light hitting my G9, it did overheat after about 6 hours of video recording (I mean off and on over a period of 6 hours). That was the only time and was a good reminder to call it a day, before I overheat and pass out.

[@ShotByMyles]

Good to know, thanks for sharing!

[@dark-well]

Very nice broll shots from the G9. Enjoying your videos a lot!

[@ShotByMyles]

Thank you Tomáš!

[@dark-well]

@@ShotByMyles what picture profile do you use the most on G9?

[@ShotByMyles]

@@dark-well I like Natural for corporate work where I need to turn it around quickly, or Cine-D if I know I want to be a bit more creative with the colour grade. If I want the absolute maximum dynamic range and I have time to mess around in post, I might go with HLG :)

[@blinkimagefilms7038]

This is an awesome review tutorial, thank you for sharing.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thank you for watching!

[@razvanyke]

Very nice video, man. I just ordered mine with a cash back from Panasonic and the great value is even greater. Thank you

[@ShotByMyles]

Hope you love it!

[@jayrobertmike]

Thank you - that was very well done. I am planning on buying a G9 as a B Cam to go with my GH5s - NOTE: a lot of people make a big deal about the autofocus issue (which is a real consideration); however, I never have an issue or hunting problem: I use single point autofocus and focus into the middle of my focus plane, knowing what I am working with in terms of the f-stop, and the area I want to be in focus, I can move around in the focal plane on a gimbal and all is perfectly in focus. I can move in and out in the focal plane and all is perfect. Stylistically, I like having all in focus - so this technique works perfectly for those types of scenes. It would not work in certain situations if you want shallow depth of field, but if you plan your scene with your camera on a tripod or gimbal, you can still use the single point autofocus, even with some camera movement as long as you stay within the focal plane (i.e., triangulating the camera to the focal point, then moving along a path staying the same basic distance to the focal point). Doing this, focus is always perfect, and there is never any hunting.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thanks for the kind words and the valuable tips on AF!

[@5lowburner]

Due to my budget I’m watching this in 2022, and it answered plenty of my questions. As a reasonably competent photographer but a beginning video maker, I could use a sentence here or there that explains why something is good, for example 10-bit recording or external HDMI. But easily one of the best reviews I’ve watched, thank you.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thanks! If it helps, 10 bit is good because it gives you more colour information in post, so the colours will take more manipulation before ‘breaking’ and you might notice colours blend smoother together on faces if you look closely. HDMI out is for using external monitors or recorders, handy if you’re using a gimbal and can’t see the monitor, or if you want something easier to see :)

[@5lowburner]

@@ShotByMyles thanks, Myles!

[@icanhearyoucanyouhearme9164]

Just grabbed a used G9 at a great price. This video helped me pull the trigger.

[@ShotByMyles]

Hope you love it!

[@raalaa121]

Best of both worlds here. I use a G9 for video and stills and a A7R 3 for specific moments as I love the full frame look and high resolution images.

[@shanemitchellspencer]

Wow. It's rare to find a KZbinr who will give you their review and actually post samples of their creative work using that tool. Thank you! Watching the footage I never think "Wow, that's great for a small sensor" - I'm just thinking it's impressive regardless. I'm tempted to switch to a Fuji system, but this camera is such a beast.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thank you so much Shane I really appreciate that! The Fuji system looks awesome, if it’s still got baked in Eterna I’m jealous :)

[@BrandonFritz]

great video! great information!

[@Inspirewithdrones3342]

FYI- regarding the 5k/6k shooting mode, I found out that you can record video by only pressing the shutter button once. Just change your 6k burst mode option to S/S and that way it’ll work the same way as if you were pressing the record button. I personally owned a G9 And I really like it due to its versatility. And I really don’t feel the need to have to purchase a new camera but rather invest in better lenses. Great video!

[@ShotByMyles]

Thank you Timothy! I have since realised the error of my ways, thanks for sharing the workaround :)

[@systemanaturae105]

Great video clip. I use Panasonic/Lumix and Olympus M4/3rds. Yes the light can be an issue with M4/3rds but there are some superb LED lights now available particularly for outdoor situations. As for the auto/manual focus - well for a relatively low cost look at the Samyang Cine Lens range which are of course all manual but have the geared cog wheel on the lens. I have the G9 which is an amazing value for money camera!!! Currently experimenting with the outstanding Nocticron lens for video and wondering whether the Samyang 45mm Cine lens will be any better.

[@ShotByMyles]

The Nocticron is amazing, I can only imagine the Samyang being better for focus gears and manual focus pulls as the Leica is focus by wire of course. Otherwise I’m sure you’ll love it!

[@oddocid9734]

Thanks fow sharing this analysis!

[@ShotByMyles]

Thanks for watching!

[@sandeepmates]

thanks..very informative

[@GeorgeNiksch]

I have the Sigma 18-35mm and I actually use the 0.64x speedbooster on the G9 and the 0.71x on the GH5s. The GH4 works with the 0.64x as well.

[@cesarebonazza]

Very honest and professional

[@ShotByMyles]

Thank you Cesare!

[@onthemove301]

Comprehensive and to the point review. For a faster lens don't forget the Olympus f1.2 series.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thanks! I’ve never used those Olympus lenses but I’ve heard good things!

[@benmcconnell6008]

I got the GX9 for street use and travel. Even though I don't shoot much video, I am getting a G9 for the value. Just need the Leica 8-18mm first. Great video and fair comparison.

[@ShotByMyles]

Hope you enjoy it! The GX9 looks a fun camera too!

[@AmadoWildlifeVideos]

Yes! It's a keeper, I'm staying with my G9 & GH5. GAS will be for lighting instead.

[@ShotByMyles]

Hear, hear!

[@vitaliyzavadskyy]

Heya Myles! I am curious - would I be able to use the G9 as a main camera for livestreaming on youtube or twitch?

[@ShotByMyles]

I think so, as long as you don’t need it to be recording to stream as obviously it has a recording limit... I’ve never streamed or used it as a webcam so please check first from somewhere that knows for sure!!

[@KitLaughlin]

Myles: a truly excellent video, if I may say; and lovely AND useful graphics, and subtle music (you should get an award for this aspect alone!). And as a video and stills shooter, I agree completely with your conclusions: the G9 punches significantly above its weight. I bought a G85 recently to complement my three GX85 bodies (our studio cameras) but the G85 is not weather-sealed and for that reason alone I may have to pick one up (I live on a boat, on salt water). Thanks so much for posting this.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thank you very much! I think the G85 might actually be weather sealed though, don’t quote me on that but might be worth double checking before you make that your reason to upgrade :) really appreciate the kind words!

[@KitLaughlin]

@@ShotByMyles I did not know the G85 is weather sealed; I will bring it back on board immediately! I'm still interested in the G9, though, for the many reasons you detail. I have a question: I just looked at your colour grading course on Udemy, but as an ex-network director myself, and ex-commercial photographer, I would much rather get images and footage right in camera. I try to spend as little time as possible behind the computer! I do use FCPX, though, if that is the best way. My question is this: do you have a course that I can buy that talks about getting the best images/footage straight out of the camera? Or is the colour grading course still the best way? Another reason I am keen in getting the look right SOOC is that we feed the HDMI from the three studio GX85s into a BMD Television HD switcher and out live to disk for all our programs. I have made a number of tweaks to the "Portrait" mode in-camera, and people like our videos' 'look', but I know so much more is possible. Anyhow, opening the dialogue here.

[@ShotByMyles]

Kit Laughlin thanks Kit, the course covers colour correction too, and I think even if you aren’t trying to stylise your footage, it’s important to be able to analyse what’s going on, what might be wrong and how to correct things to make them look natural. That said, if you pick a profile you like and you nail the white balance and exposure in camera, you shouldn’t have much to do if you are looking for a natural look (although it’s difficult to nail everything all the time!) I explore getting a look in camera a little in this video if you’d like to check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZSoZIWtjrZraNU

[@KitLaughlin]

@@ShotByMyles Sincere thanks, Myles, and left a comment and a question there. Cheers!

[@peterp7736]

Great Video! So you can instantly start a new recording after reaching the time limit?

[@ShotByMyles]

Yes it’s an arbitrary limit as far as I know!

[@Realtor1983]

Like your video, very informative. I'm looking for a camera for making Audition video and the external mic input and Bluetooth is needed . Casting directors are asking for a little better quality in video and sound. Any advise for external microphone 🤔?

[@ShotByMyles]

Hi Cary, assuming you’ll be moving around during the audition, I’d consider the Rode Wireless Go. The 2nd one has just been released so you can save money by going with the first if budget’s tight, but the 2nd is better and you can record two people in to the same mic input!

[@hVF8KZuQPeCc8u]

I bought the G9 when it first came out. Wished I had waited some since at that time it sold for $1,600 but hey, glad I have it. I did serious research for buying a camera for over 3 months, logging in many KZbin hours. Nothing at that time could compare for the value. Glad it is holding up well. I am resisting GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) mainly because my wife would put poison in my dinner if I didn’t. But also glad there really is no reason to envy the heavy-weight full frame cameras coming out. The G9 is one sweet camera! Great review BTW!

[@ShotByMyles]

Thanks Steven! At least if you bought at release you got a great firmware update which gave you more value for money! If you’ve enjoyed it that’s the main thing :)

[@stingom7152]

Thanks Myles for the great review. Could you tell please which budget Atoms external recorder would you recommend to go with the G9? Thanks, Si

[@ShotByMyles]

I think the best fit would be the Atomos Ninja V, but it isn't cheap when you factor in the memory required. Honestly I think it makes more sense to go that route if someone needs ProRes files, but if you just want to beat the recording limit, it might make more sense to get the GH5 instead!

[@stingom7152]

@@ShotByMyles thank you!!

[@kwchalky02]

Yes, totally agree. Like all cameras it has its strengths and weaknesses, but the G9 is good at so much and other than the AF in video which could be better (although it's not terrible) it is perfect for my uses. The ergonomics is second to none and the usability, customisation, menu system is superb. When you take into consideration the price, it's a no brainer as best value camera. Of course it won't be the perfect camera for certain users with specific needs, but for me it's ideal. 🙂

[@ShotByMyles]

Nailed it, Kenny!

[@EDSC_CANADA]

Awesome comparison. Was thinking about the G5 but I like the price of the G9! If I buy just the G9 body, what lens would you suggest, primarily for real estate shoots. Thank you!

[@ShotByMyles]

Cheers! In real estate here it’s all about making the spaces look as big as possible, so in my case I wanted a really wide lens to achieve that and went for the Laowa 7.5mm f2. It’s a manual lens so you have an aperture ring on the body and no autofocus, but because it’s SO wide you can stop down to f2.8 and get almost everything in focus just by leaving it near infinity. Outside of real estate I liked the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 with speed booster for a really fast, versatile lens. Only issue is it’s big and heavy and AF is basically non-existent!

[@TheGhostplanner]

Very good video, concise and to the point. Now, another 3 years later, I would like to jump on the G9 wagon. I am a hybrid shooter. I am just worried about the autofocus in video… Hated using focus peaking on my M50 when trying out manual focus, because I could barely see anything. Do you think the EM1-ii might be a better choice for me?

[@ShotByMyles]

Thank you! The G9 AF is not good, honestly! I don’t have any experience if the EM1 I’m afraid, I’d look in to that or hire it before deciding to buy, but iirc it’s from the same era as the GH5 / G9 and has similar tech, so I’d be sceptical about its AF. All the best!

[@TheGhostplanner]

@@ShotByMyles Thanks a lot! Yeah, I really would like to love the G9 but it’s a bit of a mess with its AF… The EM1-ii has a hybrid AF, which is much better! I really like this video that another KZbinr made, shot on the Olympus: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6Cul52ZmN9lp8Usi=DN894q-hMVtTYPuc

[@pshant94]

great review, just subbed! the speed booster you linked doesn’t seem to be available anymore, do you have any recs for a replacement? also, what’s the value of the Sigma lens+speed booster vs spending more on a native MFT lens? thanks!

[@ShotByMyles]

Hi Prashant, I've just updated the US and UK links for the speed booster, otherwise if you can't get it on Amazon this is the Metabones Ultra for EF to Micro Four Thirds. This in my opinion is the best, there are cheaper alternatives but in my experience I've seen a lot more quality / build issues with those. The value of going this route with the Sigma lens I use is that you end up with a zoom lens that gets you f1.3 for light gathering purposes. That's insane for a zoom which is why so many GH5 users have gone this route, Panasonic do now sell a 10-25mm f1.7 which is a similar focal length to what you end up with on the Sigma, but it's extremely expensive and that's obviously still not quite as good in low light and won't give you the same amount of bokeh / shallow depth of field for that blurry background look that's notoriously harder to pull off on these cameras. That Panasonic lens might offer different benefits such as better AF, but even then that AF won't be reliable for pro use and at least the Sigma can be used on other cameras for people that 'upgrade' from the GH5 to something like the Pocket 6K or a Canon C200 / C70. All the best!

[@pshant94]

@@ShotByMyles thanks, that is super helpful!

[@Democratiser]

Here we are now in 2023 and the G9’s status as best vfm is probably just holding true. The S5 now looks compelling with the discount kits available. The replacement G9 is probably imminent but will no doubt be twice the price of what the G9 currently sells for.

[@ShotByMyles]

Absolutely! The S5 has shaken things up but the G9 image is still great :)

[@spielbergo74]

Great Video thanks.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thanks Nathan!

[@martysender5539]

Myles good review. I got a gh5. I shoot bands, so I need unlimited recording. I was like you considering a g9 for a b cam, but the recording limit has me hesitating. besides an Atomos, another thousand US dollars, is there some way to get around the 30 minute EU has already vanquished that limit, recording limit? I'm in US and there aint no limit here. so again, is there a work around? thanks Marty of Marty Sender You Tube.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thanks Marty, there’s no other way around the limit as far as I know... and yes if you didn’t otherwise want an Atomos recorder it makes more sense to just get the GH5 :) I know on the older Panasonic G cameras there were some hacks to remove recording limits but I’ve not actually heard of one for the G9 (nor have I looked to be honest), I’d just hesitate to do that to my camera especially if it was still under warranty. All the best!

[@stevestruthers6180]

I recently bought a used G9 body and then went out and got the 25mm 1.7 and 14-140 lenses and am getting excellent results when shooting video. The secret sauce, I think, when it comes to video, is the ability to record in 10-bit 4:2:2 colour space. No issues with AF so far.

[@jayclas4023]

Hello great video I just got the G9! Question, how do you get 25p for VFR? I can only see 30p no matter what high frame rate I choose.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thanks! That’s a good question, now that I’ve actually sold mine I’m not sure if you can get 25p VFR… can I ask why you’d want it rather than just shoot 25P natively? The quality is probably better in regular 25p vs VFR even if it could do it, I think VFR modes are compressed and only 8 bit :)

[@GoTravelPlanet]

2022 and I'm still in love with my G9

[@ShotByMyles]

It can absolutely hang with newer cameras IMO!

[@GeorgeNiksch]

I couldn't agree more. G9 rocks!

[@channelmoved9573]

I find myself stuck between the G9 and the Fujifilm X-T30 with the Fujinon XF18-55mm F2.8-4 R LM Optical Image Stabiliser Lens kit. Do you have any advice on the matter? It's a verrry hard decision!! :)

[@ShotByMyles]

I’d hate to advise when I haven’t got any experience of that particular camera honestly, I know that’s probably not what you want to hear! I imagine the AF is better on that Fuji and maybe the low light performance, but at the cost of 4K 60P and 10 bit video internally. I’d probably decide between those major factors knowing both will be good cameras!

[@Kaucello]

Thanks for this video. I just ordered my G9 and cant wait to get it and start using it. I’ll definitely get your udemy course to get into using it.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thank you Jakub, I hope you love the camera!

[@bigdhav]

The Olympus 75mm f1.8 is also a MEGA lens for distance and portrait photography. It is EXTREMELY sharp and works really well with the G9.

[@ShotByMyles]

That is a great shout, a friend of mine shot a project with me and we used that in the interviews, ended up being the best shots. Absolute beast

[@ChristopherMichaelR]

I used to have a G85 then went to XT3 bc I thought I needed the bigger sensor and better AF. I sold the XT3 and im either going with G9 or GH5. I just like the M43 system a lot better.

[@Stromboli15]

Miles, great video!! I also am stoked to see your a fan of “Swami” John Reese and RFTC, Hot Snakes!! Cheers mate! I’m picking up a G9 tomorrow from a chap for $900!! Yes!! 🤪🤩

[@ShotByMyles]

Awesome taste all round, cheers! Hope you love the camera :)

[@Stromboli15]

@@ShotByMyles if you happen to be lurking around IG, you can find me @stromboli15 there about half way in is a picture of me and my homie Chu mugging it up in SF ala ‘94. Check out his shirt!! And while you’re in IG if you haven’t already added the @rocketfromthestitch I think you might just possibly find a giggle over there as well! Enjoy!! And pleasure chatting 😎👍

[@ShotByMyles]

94 wow you were there from the start! I only saw RFTC first time in 2000 when they were touring Group Sounds, burst my ear drum but still probably my favourite show of all time! Rocket from the stitch is such a cool page, thanks for sharing!

[@Stromboli15]

@@ShotByMyles I’m going to hook you up with another IG account I think you’re going to like. Back in the mid 90’s, aside from being a “scenester”, I was fortunate to work in a popular record store near UCI here in Orange County. At some point in my time there, I made the acquaintance of a really nice guy, Greg Jacobs. He was at the time the manager for a Costa Mesa act, Big Drill Car. These dudes, were the 🔥🔥🔥. And quite honestly, I’ve seen them play reunions in 2018 and 2012. They still rock. Anyway, Greg has an account, @ribshots. He worked for Cargo records on the late 90’s, he toured with RFTC, he is also an amazing photographer I think you’re really going to dig. Enjoy!! 😁👍

[@ShotByMyles]

I've requested the follow so will be interested to check him out, I bet he has some great tour stories! Cheers for the suggestion :)

[@wedopowersports]

Great video. I am torn now in 2022. Canon has announced the r10 which on paper still does not have all the specs of this camera but the tech is 4 years newer. I am torn between the r10 and the G9. Any insight would be helpful

[@ShotByMyles]

It's a real tough one! The R10 has two large compromises IMO: the 4K 60P is cropped which will be annoying when jumping between 24 and 60P because the field of view will change on the same lens, and the cropped footage won't look great. Secondly it has no headphone jack, which means if you are recording audio for an interview or something, you won't be able to monitor to make sure there are no audio issues. For me that's a deal breaker on the R10 but everyone's different! I think the G9 vs the R7 would be a tougher call for video. I'd guess the G9 quality would still be better especially at 4K 60P but the Canon's will probably hold an advantage in low light. Good luck!

[@wedopowersports]

@@ShotByMyles thanks for the reply. I've owned several canons both apsc and full and I've owned quite a few m43 cams as well and my biggest worry is low light but the G9 specs so well... and the top display!!! This is a tough decision for sure lol

[@ShotByMyles]

@@wedopowersports I'm in a similar boat, I now shoot on the Canon R6 and C70, but I actually preferred the experience of shooting video on the G9 compared to the R6. For some reason I can't have both zebras and focus peaking on at the same time on the R6... getting exposure right is also a challenge, I miss the waveform but I do think the G9 only gives you the waveform if you get the V-Log upgrade (it's there by default on the GH5 iirc) The R6 overheats in 4K too which is a real shame, I'm yet to hear anything about that on the R10 but with it being a smaller sensor there's a good chance it won't overheat. Never even heard of overheating on the Pansonics! Because I started on the GH5 before I got the G9 I didn't really use that top display very much! Good luck :)

[@lovefirst6157]

what color profile do you use most in this camera and where do you put the contrast, sharpness, noise reduction, sat settings in the profile. The shots when your comparing the Panasonic G9 to Canon r6 really made me like the colors and sharpness.

[@ShotByMyles]

thank you! I use Natural and Cine-D the most, natural for something with minimal editing (sometimes it just needs a bit more contrast and saturation) and cine-d when I want a bit more dynamic range and will be grading it more. Check out my older videos for settings I use plus free LUTs to use with them.

[@lovefirst6157]

@@ShotByMyles yeah watched those videos, they were great. Good to know that it is the same as the video

[@avarmadillo]

Great and well-reasoned presentation, Miles. No fight here. I've seriously considered getting the G9---very impressive, and one of the best value for money cameras anywhere. I've seen some wonderful video footage on the G9. I recently ordered the S5. I think it's your GH6 if you ask me. For hand held shooting it looks wonderful---and its small form won't wear you out like the weighty S1H. (I speak from experience)/ The AF on the S5 looks far better than previous cameras, and I wonder if Panasonic can/will include these improvements in the GH5/G9?? They will engineer it into the S1H and S1. Still seriously considering the G9 and going all in on Panasonic. The reviewer on Park Cameras did a back to back review of the A7SIII and S5. The skin tones and look on the model (lovely girl) confirmed to me I'd made the right decision by picking the S5. Your presentations are excellent. I hope you get a million subscribers! You deserve them.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thank you very much for the kind words William! The S5 will be a great camera I’m sure of that, and I hear the autofocus is a step beyond this one but maybe it needs more processing power or something than the G9 can do? I’ve not heard anything concrete but at this point I’d be really surprised if they did any more significant updates to the G9 / GH5, I think everything left will go in to a GH6 if there ever is one! I’ll have to look out for that Park Cameras video and check out the colours :) Hope you love your S5!

[@avarmadillo]

@@ShotByMyles I'm pretty sure I'm going to really love using the S5. Everything I've seen looks great. As long as I'm writing you I have a question. I note some Panasonic standard profiles tend to be balanced toward yellow/green----LOTs of yellow affecting skin tones. I can deal with it in post, but 1) have you noted that and 2) if so, do you have a solution?

[@avarmadillo]

@@ShotByMyles Don't know if you know this guy, but he lives in France and shoots some lovely, impressive looking stuff on the G9 and G80. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYWmmXdop51onM0

[@ShotByMyles]

William Ridenour yes I know what you mean about the skin tones- I made a LUT for cine-D and v-log to try and make the colours more accurate, they’re made for the GH5 but they’re free if you look through my older videos. Otherwise it’s a manual correction in post for me!

[@avarmadillo]

@@ShotByMyles I remember that LUT. I'll have to download it and see how it works. At the time I saw it I didn't have a Panasonic. How do you recommend exposing Cine-D to get the best out of the LUT with the least muss and fuss? Funny, when I white balance V log (on the S1H), expose it as Panasonic recommends (middle gray at 42%), and drop in the "Nicest" LUT, BOOM!!--you're almost done. Skin tones really look terrific in Nicest. I think one of the wonderful things about the S5 (besides it NOT requiring a fork lift to shoot hand held) is that it opens up the ability to use the Varicam LUTs. Nicest is about the best LUT for skin tones you can find, IMO, and the LUTs are all set perfectly to expose as Panasonic recommends. But several of the other standard profiles besides Cine-D require the extra step in grading. I've been able to improve things by adjusting the tint to reduce the yellow/green. It's pretty bad in the S1H standard profiles. I'll be interested to see if any improvement will be made with the S5. The yellow vector is crazy over balanced, and I don't know why! Color Finale with its vectors saves the day for me. That's such a great plugin! If it were three times the price it would still be a bargain. By the way, I really appreciate that your videos are straightforward and honest to who you are. So many people try to do something "hip" (and phony) to attract subscribers. What a terrible mistake. It's always so obvious. You're either naturally zany (like Potato Jet) or you're not. Just be who you are is, IMO, the best advice for you tubers. What eventually gets the viewers is great content, delivered concisely, and you have it for GH5 users. Of course, you can go too far---like Gerald Undone...who delivers information way too fast if you ask me---but the content is great. Final question: do you think the G9 is any better than the GH5 in respect to noise in lower light?

[@Princeton_James]

I'm having a friend record some clips of my wedding and between my G9, XT3 and A7III I'll be handing him the G9. It cant be easier to use and for an outdoor wedding m43 is just perfect. The G9 is by far the easiest to use and most customizable camera I have ever owned.

[@ShotByMyles]

That’s some very high praise indeed!!

[@lvca.avellino]

ok for video I agree. But for photos? Is better of GH5? Thanks

[@ShotByMyles]

G9 is better for photos than the GH5- you get the super high res mode, animal eye AF and the LCD display t least!

[@elcamino6699]

Very in depth and comprehensive Video! I recently found the G9 and the GH5 for about the same price. Does that change your verdict?

[@ShotByMyles]

For video in that case I think yes- the GH5 makes more sense :)

[@elcamino6699]

@@ShotByMylesThanks for your response! I thought so too. Do you know if the GH5 can shoot 4K 10bit internally at 60fps or only up to 30 like the G9? Couldn't find any info on that online.

[@ShotByMyles]

@@elcamino6699 that’s the head scratcher with these cameras unfortunately, no 4K 60 in 10 bit, so you choose either 8 bit or FHD 60P in 10 bit. I think you might be surprised by how good the FHD looks, so I know some people actually choose the 10 bit FHD 60P option. I think technically it’s less compressed, so it’s a good quality image. It’s worth a test :) All the best with it!

[@dl7918]

Тяжко понимать человека на другом языке, но выбор между g9 и s1 или s5 реально очень драматичен на этой маленькой планете хорошего видео)) Спасибо за видео!

[@Clickumentary]

Thanks for this thoughtful review. I just canceled my pre-order for Lumix S5 after digging deeper into the AF issues. Why invest anew with Leica glass with more of the same AF probs when I'm already invested in M43? I can't deny the value of G9 today ($1600 w/12-60/2.8) but I need to convince myself that XT-4 isn't going to give me more return and slightly better low light and AF. Thanks again!

[@ShotByMyles]

Glad you found it slightly helpful! I’ve no experience of the XT-4 but what I’ve seen of it on KZbin has been amazing! I don’t think you can go wrong either way, but yeah I’ve heard nothing but good things!

[@colinthecameraguy]

For continuous AF in Video the XT4 is probably better (surely that’s a given) . For photos the AF is excellent. For low light; the Sigma 18-35 f1.8 with speedbooster combo will give you a Standard Zoom range and a fixed max aperture of f1.3 and I just bought them both new (viltrox EM F2 v2) for like £650

[@aemilne1970]

Great video Myles, do you know if you can exceed the 30 min recording limit with any Atomos recorder or just the Ninja V?

[@ShotByMyles]

Thanks Ashley! I'd assume any of the recorders, but please don't take my word for it and verify it before you make a purchase!

[@aemilne1970]

@@ShotByMyles Will do, however it makes sense because the camera is not doing the recording, the external recorder is, so therefore there is no imposed limit.

[@ShotByMyles]

Ashley Milne My thoughts exactly!

[@aemilne1970]

I can confirm I shot two videos, one 40 min and the other 56 min to my Ninja Flame recorder.

[@baqcasanke]

any cheaper speed boosters work for lumix G9? i just bought one and was super disappointed to learn my commlite speed booster doesnt work. There is horrible edge softness on anything wider than f9 literally only the middle frame can be in focus. Plus theres so much chromatic abberation that you'd think i was shooting on (bad) vintage lenses

[@ShotByMyles]

The only other budget one I know of is the Viltrox M2 I think it’s called, I hear their quality control isn’t great but people use them and seem happy if it’s working well. You have to be confident in fixing a small back focus issue by adjusting the right screw. Otherwise Metabones is the top dog and best quality at a high price!

[@oneandonlyjoker8903]

Would you say that all-I and 400mbps are crucial for video? Am I able to push the colors enough in post with 150mbs Long-gop? Also can I use the ghalex-lut on the g9 since it hast vlog now? Or is this only for the gh5

[@ShotByMyles]

That’s a tough question and one that will depend on who you’re asking and what work you do. For me they are not crucial- I know professionals including me that shoot video for a living without those profiles. Some people will say they can see the difference and wouldn’t accept any less. 150mbps is enough for some grading for sure. You can see how far Daniel Schiffer and the like grade their 8 bit Sony footage which maxes out at 100mbps, so it can be graded for sure, it’s just a case of all-i behaving a little better the further you push. If you find a video that can demonstrate that well then you’ll be lucky- I haven’t seen anyone successfully sell me on the 10 bit advantage yet on a realistic grade. I can’t speak for the GHAlex guys but I suspect in HLG it would work from the G9!

[@oneandonlyjoker8903]

Shot by Myles thanks for the prompt reply. It is indeed a very important question since it’s going to decide if ones getting the g9 or the gh5. And as you have mentioned nobody talks about this topic on the Internet. For me, 150 mbps will be more then enough since I’m planning to shoot commercials, food videos, maybe small music videos. But down the line I don’t know if I could profit from all I 400mbps. Futureproof wise I just don’t know if it’s a good deal. Oh so with the hlg the ghalex lut will work just fine ?

[@ShotByMyles]

Oneandonly Joker those types of job shouldn’t need too much grading but honestly if you think you’ll be landing paid work then the GH5 might make more sense- at some point one of the limitations might be an issue. On GHAlex I’m not sure, never tried it but it’d be my first port of call. You can ask the guys that make it for their opinion, they are quite responsive I found! I don’t use it anymore to be honest, it’s a brutal workflow if the return isn’t there. All the best!

[@scottmorgason]

G9 all the Way... thanks!

[@klajd14]

hi, i want to buy this camera body in 2023 for the 740 eu, is it still a good deal now for this price or is there any good one for that price ?

[@ShotByMyles]

Hey! I can’t really comment on prices because it’ll depend on where you are etc, but I would just say it’s still a very solid camera!

[@jaybayblay]

How would you compare this with your Canon r6 in terms of photos and video recording and sorry if this is a dumb question but are you using the g9 to record this video? if so what lens? Also is the no autofocus critical for photo and video shooting?

[@ShotByMyles]

I don’t shoot many photos so I can’t really comment, but yes this talking head footage was shot on the G9 with the 25mm f1.7. In terms of video I haven’t had the R6 long but it annoys me that I can’t see zebras and peaking at the same time. The AF didn’t work for me yesterday on a shoot with a dancer, it seems to be better for talking head or where the subject is large in the frame, so I’ve spent over double the cost of the G9 on one of the best AF cameras on Earth and it still failed me. Slow motion also looks better out the G9 compared to the R6. AF is a personal thing but I’ve lived without it and it looks like I still will be doing in a lot of cases!

[@jaybayblay]

@@ShotByMyles Wow thank you so much for your input it really means a lot when it comes to big purchases like these, love your informative video and awesome reply. Definitely going to go with the G9 because of you and even the video comparisons between the mark III show that G9 offers better video quality since that is my main focus. Are there any lenses that aren't too expensive that you can recommend that does well for videos? I'd like to use this as a webcam for streaming but also recording simple videos, perhaps something that does well in low lights. I'm looking at two lenses priced around $150 each, Panasonic LUMIX G VARIO 45-150mm F4.0-5.6 ASPH and Panasonic Lumix G Lens, 25mm, F1.7 ASPH. Not sure if it's wiser to spend more for a more all-rounder lens.

[@ShotByMyles]

Jaybayblay no problem! The 45-150mm will not be good in low light and you’ll also not be able to webcam with it because it’s a long zoom. For a small budget I like the 25mm f1.7, good in low light and you can webcam with it. The AF is not the best but as you can see in this video, it does OK for talking head stuff. That’s a great place to start I think!

[@JericTamayo]

Yes I love my g9 for over 2 years now. I even went to photography competitions and beat up people who all use full frame. For videos, I’m sticking with my GH5s since it has dual is, wider fov by 9%, and all i. Plus I’m using it with the weebil s.

[@ShotByMyles]

G9 is a great little camera! GH5S doesn't do Dual IS, but is otherwise brilliant for video!

[@JericTamayo]

@@ShotByMyles I meant to say dual iso for low light. Which is why I have the weebil s for stabilization. For video, Gh5s bigger pixels of 10mp helps with dynamic range and panning motions. So a combo of g9 for photography and Gh5s for videography is ideal

[@ShotByMyles]

Jeric Tamayo ah yes sorry, dual ISO! Killer for video :)

[@eduardocardona6608]

The autofocus works on the g9 with the speedbooster and the sigma?

[@ShotByMyles]

AFS works ok to acquire focus once, but I never use AFC / continuous autofocus with the speedbooster, it’s terrible in my experience!

[@mertheadventurer]

Hi my friend. Olympus om-5 or Lumix g9... Which is good for photography?

[@ShotByMyles]

Hello! I’ve honestly never used the Oly, but the G9 was very good and I think they are SO close. Sorry I can’t give a definite answer, but it’s worth testing or renting first if you can!

[@TagliaTellyTimTysonShort]

Great review - I bought a G90 but I'm not happy with the video recording modes 8 bit H264 etc so I am going to exchange it for a G9 I hope I see the difference !

[@ShotByMyles]

Honestly I think you have to be doing some grading to actually tell, but if you are changing white balance a lot and shifting colours around then you should notice it responds better in 10 bit :)

[@TagliaTellyTimTysonShort]

@@ShotByMyles ah Ok thanks - I was thinking the higher bit rate .movs would give a cleaner picture I'm seeing aliasing and a fringing in high contrast shots - you think Ill get that on the G9 ? I do grade and I want broadcast quality

[@ShotByMyles]

I think you should see an improvement from the G90, but whether it’s good enough for broadcast I’m probably not the person to say! I see aliasing in VFR modes (slow motion) but it’s never bothered me in the 25P stuff! I don’t think 10 bit makes much difference to how clean it is (i.e. lack of noise) but if you find you introduce noise by pushing colours in post that’s where 10 bit should help. I definitely recommend testing one first if you can to make sure you’re happy!

[@TKY047]

Hey bro iam seeing alot of noise at iso 1600 on my lumix G9 And iam also seeing some weird colours in hlg and cine D profile in low light

[@ShotByMyles]

It’s hard to diagnose over a message but noise depends on your exposure as well as the ISO- for example if you need ISO 3200 for good exposure but shot at 1600, you could actually get more noise from the 1600 shot. I think ISO 1600 should be acceptable, I went up to 3200 when I absolutely needed to. Same for the weird colours, hard to know what you mean :) but HLG is a pain to grade, are you sure you’re working in the correct colour space? Cine-D can get a bit funky on skin, a hue vs hue change should help

[@TKY047]

@@ShotByMyles Thanks for your reply 😊 it will help me alot .The weird colour i was seeing on Camera monitor When shooting in hlg in low light

[@Provolt]

What native lens would u recommend for a first timer, I want a lens that doesn't have focus by wire and something not too expensive but something versatile

[@ShotByMyles]

I would check out some of the Olympus zooms that have the focus clutch mechanism. They behave more mechanical than regular focus by wire lenses, but I’m not familiar with them enough to advise which they are. For versatility you probably want a zoom, although primes are generally faster making them better for low light and for getting a shallow depth of field.

[@Provolt]

@@ShotByMyles Panasonic and Olympus lens are so bloody expensive tho. I swear it would be cheaper to go and speedboost cannon ef lens 😂

[@ShotByMyles]

Provolt you might be right! The default option for people wanting versatility and mechanical focus is the Sigma 18-35 but you said native :)

[@Provolt]

@@ShotByMyles yea but if one native prime lens costs more then the g9 body, buying a speedbooster might be the cheaper option lmao 😂 I understand that the pana and Olympus lens will be high quality but seems very overpriced for glass going on a small sensor

[@fredio54]

As the owner of: GF1, GH5, GM1, GX9, GM5 in chronological order (and still have all), I'm considering adding another beast, the G9 tomorrow, and appreciate your honest summary of how it fits into the landscape. The things that attract me most are 6.5 stop IBIS and 80MP stills, but also having another power house camera that I can keep a different lens on relative to the GH5 is a good thing. We'll see how the bidding goes :-D

[@ShotByMyles]

All the best with the bidding! Hope it doesn’t let you down :)

[@fredio54]

@@ShotByMyles New cost 1800 local currency, went for 1410, my last bid 1266 :-D Oh well, starting bid was 900 which was cheap, but invoice was around 1600 and 1400 is too close to that to be worth it, really. Maybe in future I'll nab one at some point. Didn't need it, but did want it :-D

[@ShotByMyles]

@@fredio54 I respect the discipline!!

[@eltinjones4542]

I bought a GX7 a number of years ago for travel and recently upgraded to the GX9, which I use more than my DSLRS for everything now? I'm now considering the G9 ans selling off my DSLR gear. To be honest the full frame mirrorless is far to expensive for what I do even the crop sensors. I already have good mf3 glass. I don't do video so the specs on this video are Double Duch to me. Cheers anyway E

[@ShotByMyles]

Hope you love it if you go for it, it’s a very capable camera in the grand scheme of things!

[@avarmadillo]

Myles, excellent arguments. This is, dollar for dollar, it is an incredible value. The price has now dropped to about $900.00 USD at B&H...buttressing your arguments even more.

[@ShotByMyles]

Absolutely agree, thanks William!

[@sottosopra4769]

Hi, what about lover light and bokeh?

[@ShotByMyles]

It depends on what you class as low light... if your standards are older cameras then this does fine. I use it happily up to ISO 1600, up to 3200 at a push if I can de-noise in post, which is quite a lot of light if using a f1.2 lens at 1/50 shutter (i.e. no slow motion). If you’re regularly shooting in the dark or need exceptional performance then the Sony line are undoubtedly cleaner! Likewise the GH5S is also a low light beast due to its dual ISO. For bokeh I think it’s ok, as shown in the video my f1.3 Metabones / Sigma setup looks marginally better for bokeh (i.e. shallower depth of field) than a f1.8 on full frame. That means you need to get some fast glass on full frame to beat that, but of course that is an option for people that really want it. I’ve never been asked by a client for more bokeh put it that way, and if I’m focusing manually I don’t often want a super shallow depth of field. But if you need ultra shallow depth of field then full frame with fast glass is going to give you more!

[@exploringwithdadja8743]

im still shooting on my g7 and because i invested in lenses i will stay on mft looking at the gh5 rigght now

[@ShotByMyles]

It’s absolutely still a great camera!

[@gowthams1112]

Whether g9 comes with full function touch screen?

[@ShotByMyles]

That depends on how you describe ‘full function’ :) it is a touch screen, it works with things like touch to focus but you’re limited with things like changing settings.

[@lexipau]

I hope the G9 get the S5 AF update.

[@Provolt]

G9 has better af then the s5

[@eppietimisela7118]

The new S5II is out with the new autofocus system. No more huntings on the Panasonic (at least for the S5II)....

[@ShotByMyles]

That’s interesting! The price of the S5 made it a very good option, it’s just the people who have a lot of micro 4/3 lenses could be reluctant to change system

[@Filmmaker809]

Hey Myles, hope you are well. G9 is a great camera, but I wish Panasonic made it compatible with the XLR1 Adaptor.

[@ShotByMyles]

That’s true, if you are using XLR mics the GH5 might be the better option of the two. Thanks for commenting!

[@Filmmaker809]

@@ShotByMyles, yeah that's why I got a GH5 & GH5s, though I am looking at getting another GH5!

[@MrNyuntshwe]

Do you still think that G9 is a better option for a low-budget person in 2022? Thank you for your convincing tutorial!

[@ShotByMyles]

I think the G9’is still a good option, yes! Although now that the GH5 has a successor, I imagine that might be priced even more competitively and might not be far off the G9? It also depends what you’ll be doing, if you’re only shooting the occupational casual video then the recording limit wouldn’t be an issue, but if you’re looking to explore videography and maybe events / weddings, the unlimited recording times of the GH series becomes key. I do still think the image quality of the G9 holds up but I haven’t recently checked prices vs Sony or Canon equivalents (I’d only really consider the R7 as a G9-level rival from them) Good luck!

[@MrNyuntshwe]

@@ShotByMyles thank you very much for your valuable opinion and I'll think about it when I decide to buy a new one!

[@hitsounds]

Do you think it's worth an upgrade from the G80? Are the amazing shots I'm seeing mostly lens, post and your skill or do you think there'd be a significant difference in quality if these were shot on the G80? Anyway thanks for the vid, really inspiring to me with so much MFT haters and full frame lovers around these days!

[@ShotByMyles]

Personally, I think it's a good upgrade. Again it is a case of diminishing returns when you start spending more, and there's no doubt the G80 offers good quality, but for me there's a decent jump to G9. You get the 4K50P, slow motion up to 180P, better codecs (even before you add in 10 bit), great ex tele mode and better useability thanks to more customisation and function buttons. Obviously I can't speak for your budget or intended use, but personally I don't touch my G80 now that I have a G9 to back up my GH5 and as I do make my living from video it's definitely been a worthy upgrade for me. Thanks for watching and the kind words!

[@hitsounds]

@@ShotByMyles Great thanks for the info. I think the slow mo is noticeably limited on the G80 and would make a big diff for b-roll-esque stuff. I use the Cine D video style for grading etc in DaVinci currently but a flatter starting point (I believe V Log is available as a paid upgrade?) would feel better..Currently just on the 12-60mm kit lens and the 100-300mm with no prime lenses but looking at your footage seems a no brainer to at least get the 25mm 1.7(think that's right). Keeping the lens collection and staying MFT seems such a good direction and backs up a decision to go G9, as well as a 4MP uplift from the G80. I guess the only other thought would be is it at all possible a GH6 could come out with a drastic change to autofocus technology! Thanks again and best of luck with the channel/projects.

[@ShotByMyles]

Aitchos that is correct, you can upgrade the G9 with the v-log code. I’d recommend experimenting with HLG first though as that’s got very similar dynamic range to v-log and it’s included on the G9 already! The 25mm f1.7 is great value, but as autofocus is not the best then you can always adapt lenses that might also be compatible for a future move. For example if you knew you were eventually going to an APSC / Super 35 camera with an EF amount, the Sigma 18-35 route makes a lot of sense now. But the 25mm f1.7 was so cheap I went for it, it’s mainly the expensive MFT lenses I don’t want to buy in case I leave the system. Thanks and all the best!

[@hitsounds]

@@ShotByMyles Excellent! By the way, not sure if this is just me but when I try to click the bell on my subscription to your channel it won't allow it as 'this action is turned off for content made for kids' - might be worth checking...

[@ShotByMyles]

@@hitsounds I appreciate the feedback, I'll check that out!

[@actstuntcam]

If I can find a G9 secondhand I'm pretty keen to get one... otherwise it is G85 for me:)

[@dirrito]

its my second month with the camera, oh i just cant go back to 8bit recording...

[@GordLamb]

If Panasonic implements proper autofocus on the G/GH and S lines, they'll be making the finest mirrorless cameras money can buy. I love my G9, but I consider it to have essentially no AFC.

[@ShotByMyles]

I feel exactly the same. I don’t really need full frame for video yet the pull of autofocus has dragged me away from MFT. It’s just too useful for a solo shooter, especially for multi-cam interviews! They must know they’d dominate the video market if they sorted it out!

[@GordLamb]

@@ShotByMyles exactly... and on a gimbal. I shot a music video earlier this year and my follow focus controller battery was dead. Ended up closing down the aperture and taking a chance with AFC. 3/4 of the shots were totally unusable. It was just for fun, but still frustrating.

[@ShotByMyles]

Gordon Lamb oh man, 3/4 ruined! I was about to say, you’re a braver man than I!

[@GordLamb]

@@ShotByMyles it was -10C that day, too. On the plus side, it was just a dance choreography for a friend and he got better each take. :p

[@ShotByMyles]

Gordon Lamb that’s the trick with G9 AF- when it fails on a take you just tell your talent to do it again with more passion haha

[@Metaldetectiontubeworldwide]

Great video ...just thinking the same the other day . I have wrecked my GH5 completly this year , drove over it with my car....on purpose ..arghh. I wanted that epic 'dusty dessert drive over w. Car shot'.... Planned and measured it in forehand on tarmac , and stupid me , with me outside of the car taking height measurements ! Offcourse the suspension , compresses when i got in ..and drove at 30 miles/h on that dusty / bumpy riad made it only worse .... Still traumatised , its totaly wrecked besides sensor and the physical Leica glass ... Do you think or guess theres still hope on resurrection ?? O yeah subed immediatly ;)

[@ShotByMyles]

Aw man, you were brave to try that! Sorry to hear that, you could take it to a repair place and see what they say but it sounds bad!

[@Metaldetectiontubeworldwide]

@@ShotByMyles thanks mate , i guess they will say its not feasonable to repair . I copieed a link of a photo of it on my insta : instagram.com/p/CFDI9XUn6Hr/?igshid=vjf362u51vqf Sensor , and lots is still alright ..but frame broken and bended

[@LeoNelBuilds]

What are your thoughts on the LUMIX S5?

[@ShotByMyles]

I've never actually used one so I can't really give you my personal opinion unfortunately! It seems like a great camera but if AF was a primary concern I'd probably go for Sony or Canon instead. I think it has recording limits which is a bit of a shame when you compare it to the GH5, but on the flip side it will be better in low light and have more dynamic range.

[@LeoNelBuilds]

@@ShotByMyles yeah I usually shoot manual as it is but I love the specs... I think I’ll go for the S5 instead of the A7III... 10 bit 422 internal is hard to pass up!

[@ShotByMyles]

If you only want to shoot manual I’m sure it will be a beast! I think it has to be better than the A7iii in terms of video quality, that one has some colour issues with the magenta noise pattern throughout. I got the Canon R6 but the dynamic range isn’t great and the quality in slow motion isn’t great. It also annoys me by not being able to have zebras on at the same time as peaking, and there is no waveform. The S5 will probably be better in many ways other than AF!

[@HaydenLau.]

The Fujifilm XT-3 and Nikon Z50 are both cheaper... What should I choose?

[@ShotByMyles]

I’d hate to say because I haven’t tested those, but it probably depends on which features you need more for your work and which camera excels in that area. For example I think handheld is going to be smoother on the G9 but autofocus better on the Fuji.

[@mrinalgayali]

All Pana G series produces excellent videos, my main big issue was focus miss. Don't why Pana is not adopting PDAF. Otherwise, no camera can match the details of PANA video details. I will never buy any PANA unless they adopt PDAF. Canon Sony has PDAF but Canon lacks sharpness and Sony colors May be my next cam will be Fuji X-S10

[@ShotByMyles]

They must realise this major flaw, if I was in charge it’d be priority 1 for the next camera!

[@wtfkurtis]

not too many are aware if it's not vlogL, it's 10 stops or less of dynamic range for video. The G9 maybe built nice with features but the DR is pretty weak for stills.

[@ShotByMyles]

You can get v-log for the G9 as well though, so dynamic range will be identical to the GH5 I think :)

[@wojciechczupta9185]

have you tried this hack with permanent service mode, when all record time limits are off?

[@ShotByMyles]

I wasn’t actually sure that was possible with this camera, not tried it! I’m sure it comes with risks though?

[@jeffslade1892]

Dunno. When it come to practical shooting of movies I still reckon my GH4 does it better than my G9. For hand-held and short clips, nothing much will touch the G9 but when set up for movie video the GH4 (nevermind the GH5-series). For a start angle-ISO shooting and a much larger buffer - when burst shooting the G9 will grind to a halt, the GH4 will keep going until the card is full. The stabilisation on the G9 is superb, where it hits it for 6 is wildlife at long range whether stills or short video clips If you consider your intended audience, many will be viewing on a mobile phone, and then C4K becomes a waste of milk. If you are shooting movies for the big screen professionally then you will want a GH5 anyway, along with a lot of other toys.

[@ShotByMyles]

Thanks for your input Jeff! I personally found the GH4 extremely noisy in my brief time with it, I suspect the G9 generation is actually a step up but I defer to your experience. G9 does miss out on some video features, such as no waveform by default, I give you that! Shutter angle is nice for switching between frame rates and not needing to set shutter, but I work around that with custom profiles. Thanks for adding your voice!

[@jeffslade1892]

@@ShotByMyles I personally find the GH4 exceptionally quiet when set up right. Part of it is the entire camera body is designed as a heat sink. The NR can be too aggressive and introduce artefacts. There are several places where the NR can be fiddled with. I have had to shoot movie in poor light, coloured stage lighting is the worst for colour balance, Auto-WB will not cope with changing colours and varying lights. Every situation is different, you have to play with the camera, any camera, to get best results. It is hard to beat the G9 for stills but the GH4 produces movies that are stable from beginning to end. Neither the G9 nor the E-M5ii does that. I had to buy a G7 as B-Cam because the E-M5ii would not do the job. A tip here, if you put your thumb on the back of the sensor under the monitor and it is hot, the camera will not shoot movies. What surprised me recently though is the new to me PEN-F can produced still photo images every bit as good as the G9.

[@hennievangalen1603]

Tried to love the G9 just as much, but sold it after a year of use. The JPEG quality is terrible, always a green or purple hue. Then MFT is always a struggle in low light situations. And don't get me started on the dreadfull and overcomplicated menu. Have bought and used 3 different lenses at the time. Now saving up for Q2 or X1D II.

[@onthemove301]

Well... I've used recent Sony (A7R3), Canon (5DSr), and Olympus (EM1mk2) menus and find the Lumix is easiest to use. But everyone is entitled to react differently. Agree about jpeg hues, but then I shoot stills in RAW so it's no big deal, to me. In low light the better IBIS, combined with lens stabilisation in some cases, allows confident stills shooting at one second. Obviously video doesn't benefit, but in ordinary lighting the stabilisation means gymbals are not necessary, so less weight to carry.