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Ⓕ Best Way For Gluing Wood Together To Get Thick Pieces (ep86)

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Nick Ferry

Nick Ferry

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@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
a lot more woodworking articles, info and plans here - nickferry.com/ - and the article for this video with tool list here - nickferry.com/2018/03/best-way-for-gluing-wood-together-to-get-thick-pieces-ep86/
@tevfikevyurt3407
@tevfikevyurt3407 6 жыл бұрын
Amk gabbe Nike
@eugenerice4516
@eugenerice4516 6 жыл бұрын
Router gig to flatten plank of wood with twist
@texasfossilguy
@texasfossilguy 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Ferry just fyi chemically silica sand, like sand blasting sand, would be better than salt because its inert and salt is a polar molecule that reacts with water.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
texasfossilguy water itself is polar and pva glue is water soluble - I personally wouldn't want to use silica sand as to not have a physical separation between the wood pieces to be joined
@donlauricella
@donlauricella 6 жыл бұрын
Dominick612
@daphlavor
@daphlavor 6 жыл бұрын
Well done Nick! It’s the little things that craftsmen know among themselves but aren’t always shared or spoken about. Thanks again Sam
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks - I'm glad Rich pointed it out because I wouldn't have thought to even show it
@bobjordan2552
@bobjordan2552 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a wood shop teacher for 36 years. Nice tip. Simple and does the trick. Thanks for sharing.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool - glad you liked it - and sounds like you've seen a couple things before!
@rontocknell3592
@rontocknell3592 6 жыл бұрын
How many clamps does a woodworker need? Answer: one more than he's got
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@nonyabidness7207
@nonyabidness7207 6 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!!
@neillongley59
@neillongley59 6 жыл бұрын
You can never have enough clamps!
@Colaaah
@Colaaah 6 жыл бұрын
Ron Tocknell haha yep, you should see how many clamps are needed when doing a stringer for a geometric staircase... ALOT!
@Alptraumification
@Alptraumification 6 жыл бұрын
Ron Tocknell I have exactly 220 pieces. Still not enough. Guess you’re right. I need one more.
@hungryarch7319
@hungryarch7319 6 жыл бұрын
Man, this is probably one of the biggest things I love about woodworking....I never stop learning. Nice tip Nick. Keep up the great vids.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% - finding new ways is one of the best parts!
@carloantoniomartinelli5418
@carloantoniomartinelli5418 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah: spreading glue with foam rubber rollers ! WHATEVER will they think of next ?
@caribaez5711
@caribaez5711 4 жыл бұрын
Why do we glue wood together?
@dr.chalmers7923
@dr.chalmers7923 Жыл бұрын
Why do we breathe oxygen? 🧐
@gpickmovies
@gpickmovies 6 жыл бұрын
I am 75 years young. Have been doing wood working for, at least, 60 years. Part of the joy of working with God’s created products is applying the abilities He has given me in learning some new aspect of this fun hobby. Your video has thought me a very simple gluing trick. Thanks. Glen in Lufkin, Texas.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Glen - every day something can be learned
@SawdustmakerLori
@SawdustmakerLori 5 жыл бұрын
I tried this method of gluing up the fence pieces for your table saw sled plans today and it works AMAZING!!! I can't believe I never thought of gluing up pieces this way. I've tried all the other tricks but this works the best of all and is so easy. Thank you for sharing this tip!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome - it’s these little things we pick up along the way - when we understand that, we appreciate the old timers that have been doing this forever and a day
@ChicNMovies
@ChicNMovies 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't have a parallel clamp you can just use regular clamps with 2 flat wood pieces instead ! great tip thanks for sharing !
@marvinkitfox3386
@marvinkitfox3386 4 жыл бұрын
This. The wood pieces allow more movement when the actual clamping gets done. Also instead of one parallel clamp that walks down the join, I just put two on. One each end.
@shaneneedham262
@shaneneedham262 4 жыл бұрын
That iswhat ihave done in the past, especially for longer or wider clamping, but realized if I do small parts and then with dowels and clamp finished product I get better results.
@harrydalton1689
@harrydalton1689 4 жыл бұрын
Calls right?
@paulalderson6920
@paulalderson6920 Күн бұрын
This solved a problem I had this afternoon. Pity I didn’t find the video this morning. Great tip!
@9and7
@9and7 6 жыл бұрын
If lots know about it, it's not as important as the one who shares it. You just made many more productive and better makers. Thank You and keep up the great work.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely put - thanks much!
@9and7
@9and7 6 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@IgotHeliFever
@IgotHeliFever 6 жыл бұрын
Genius ! Great Idea with the Parallel clamp - I've seen hundred of laminated workbench videos and everyone just uses clamps across thickness then planes,sands or runs thru a thickness Planer not worrying to much about being square across top & bottom of workpiece! After 100's of videos I chose your Joinery Method ( Garden Bench build) for my workbench & your way of Clamping Up the Workpiece ! Thanks So Much Nick !! : )
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool - glad you were able to put the two videos together to come up with a bench!
@11211lcb
@11211lcb 6 жыл бұрын
After 40 years of experience, 25 pro you learn to not use sooooooo much glue. Squeeze out is excess glue, do your best to minimize it. Squeeze out is an indicator of plenty of glue but it should simply bubble, slightly, out at the joint line, dripping is way too much and too much trouble to remove. Excess glue is wasteful and further causes slippage when clamping. Do not use excess glue to fill a gap, add more clamping pressure. Clamping pressure will not starve a joint, contrary to what many think. A thin glue line is a strong glue line/joint. Try to never glue up stock that is cut to finished width or length. Lay your clamps on your work surface so that the bars are parallel to the work surface. Lay the pieces to be glued on top of the clamp bars. Let gravity help to keep pieces aligned. You can tweak a little after clamping if there is any slippage. With there proper amount of glue there will be minimal if any slippage.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the feedback - I’ve used varying amounts of glue over the years and always came back to preferring to use too much over too little (at least where laminations are concerned) - basically I’d rather have a bit to clean up than risk a void or dry spot as for the work surface clamping option - I’ve used this clamping method on pieces as long as 22 feet - hard to find a table that long to work from - also, in theater builds I often have to glue up curved handrails and this method is ideal for that as well Typically I do make my glue ups thicker, wider and longer than finished dimension, as I did in this case - this method merely keeps tolerances tighter cutting down on waste, planing/milling time - in the case of exotics and figured woods, this can be extremely beneficial I also agree wholeheartedly that glue is not to used to fill gaps - aside from sprung joints, clamping pressure on a panel glueup should be minimal - if it doesn’t come together properly dry, glue and clamps is not the solution and the joint should be reworked In summation, yes there’s always more than one way to do things - I tend to lean to this method because it’s quick and suitable for a wide array of applications and for me and my experiences the pros outweigh the cons ten fold
@artiet5982
@artiet5982 5 жыл бұрын
Nick Ferry bam! Nicely said, Nick. Lol, also, I could see the huge benefit here to be when doing glue ups over say, 10 feet. Where you are much less likely to mill the width after glue up as running a dozen or more linear feet through a table or band saw is cumbersome to say the least. Great tip and I will be using this method for large future projects. By the way, I’ve never noticed a comment by a person with 40 years experience in woodworking leave a positive comment on a how-to video on KZbin. I often wonder why they watch how to videos instead of just make them.... Anyway, keep up the great videos man! -Art
@mm9773
@mm9773 5 жыл бұрын
@@artiet5982 I’m glad that people are willing to share their experience, and I don’t think Leon’s comment is negative. Yours is.
@artiet5982
@artiet5982 5 жыл бұрын
M M thanks for the input. I was probably in a bad mood that day.
@bobomonkey702
@bobomonkey702 5 жыл бұрын
Leon Bridges Yep I agree makes a lot of sense and well explained. Thanks
@timcaron9049
@timcaron9049 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, I have been using this method for several years now. Before I just used the table top to align the pieces, then I started to use the aligning clamp. In my 35 years of wood working, this is truly the best way. Great video. thanks for showing it.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Tim!!
@gamaroffant
@gamaroffant 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick! As someone just trying to start out with woodworking, NOTHING is too obvious 🤣 Looking forward to seeing more of your channel 👍
@nylabone8782
@nylabone8782 6 жыл бұрын
Nice tip - I've done hundreds of leg glue ups. This is now my new method!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Let me know if you like it after you try it - that's a lot of legs
@mattmassier8257
@mattmassier8257 6 жыл бұрын
Randomly landed on one of your videos and now going through more. These are really well made and easy to follow. They're great!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks man - glad to have you here
@csomdahl
@csomdahl 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, I just wanted to thank you for all of your videos I am brand new to woodworking and I mean new, my shop is being built and I am in process of gathering my tools. I am a retired nurse I own a small farm in Idaho, and I have been watching as many videos as I can. Your videos have helped me so much, thank you Chris
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you saying that - you are more than welcome and I’m lucky to be a part of your journey
@HBSuccess
@HBSuccess 6 жыл бұрын
Always done this - thanks to my high school shop teacher who taught me a ton. Also - Clamps apply pressure roughly 40-60 degrees from the pressure point so it’s much more efficient to use cauls to thicken the assembly. If the thing is 2” thick like your glue-up you really need a clamp every 2-3” to have even clamping pressure. But add a 2” caul to both sides - voilà a clamp every 6-9” would do the same job. I’m hedging because it depends on the type of clamp used- but you get the idea - use cauls. F and C clamps are the worst bc the pressure point is so small.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
good rule of thumb for sure but ultimately clamping pressure force angle is dependent on beam strength of whatever is next to the clamp pad - the more dispersion of force by a caul in many cases is good, it also lessens the actual clamping pressure to an overall surface when dispersed - so either cauls with high pressure clamps or omit the cauls and add more lesser pressure clamps
@SF-fm7ov
@SF-fm7ov Жыл бұрын
Another method is to use a flat table covered with wax paper on the bottom of the edges. Place wax paper on top of the edges then place flat steel or angle iron on top of wax paper and clamp down in several places to table. Then you can use clamps from each side to squeeze the portions together. This has the advantage of using a flat table to keep the project straight during glue up as opposed to a temporary clamp. An even better way is to use angle iron on 3 sides and the flat table on the bottom. Place wax paper so that project never comes in to contact with angle iron or table. The project is held square on all 4 linear sides. I know the cost of angle iron scares some people but it is reusable and cost less than a good clamp if you get it from a steel supplier.
@christiankrippler9162
@christiankrippler9162 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the awesome tip..."Oh honey I need to run to Lowes and buy a parallel clamp...lol!"
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Tell her you're going out for eggs and bread
@celebrationscuba
@celebrationscuba 6 жыл бұрын
Most of the time it is little simple things like this that help the newbie more than any formal class they could ever take. No tip or trick will work every time, as some other comments here have mentioned, however if it works only once then it made life so much simplier. Thanks for sharing this tip, and PLEASE continue to share any tips or tricks you might have, if you only help one person, well it was worth it. Great video, thanks!!!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks much - I am very happy this could help a couple people out - works really slick!
@81Sazerac
@81Sazerac 5 жыл бұрын
Nice technique. One thing to consider is to simply use two K clamps (the parallel clamps) on both ends and just clamp in between with smaller clamps. That way, you can speed things up just a bit, especially if the wood to be laminated are dimensionally identical. No need to continually clamp and unclamp the one parallel clamp going down the length of the wood. Also, if you are not going to be doing a lot of additional dimensional work on the laminated piece, you can drop 3 small dowels/dominos/or biscuits into each piece. This will also allow for glue-ups with near perfect alignment. I know a lot of people do this more for tabletop glue ups, but they can work well with leg glue-ups as well, but the key is to avoid much more additional dimensioning or you might have the alignment dowels/dominos/biscuits show in the final product. Although that might be cool if you intentionally wish to show the internal joinery.
@Gforceracing20
@Gforceracing20 6 жыл бұрын
Been a hobbyist woodworker for 20 yrs and this is the first I've seen this technique. Thanks for sharing Nick. I've used cauls for panels, this is the same principle for legs on a smaller scale.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Yup yup - glad that hear you liked it
@MP-zf7kg
@MP-zf7kg 4 жыл бұрын
Final little comment on glue-ups, for larger pieces: -it's not necessary to do all pieces at one time, so, do them in sets your clamps can handle -for the final gluing, align your sets against a straight edge, and on a flat surface; it's best if the flat surface is finished or metal (so glue doesn't stick too much) -lay weights over the joints to keep them under some pressure; I've used cans of paint, heavy tools, whatever is handy -for lateral force, I use a bottle jack and a couple of 2 x 4's. Remember you're not smoking it down, just even pressure, so the butt of the jack just needs a solid place to rest. Sorry to do all this with words, a picture would be much easier. It's really pretty simple. -
@rookiewoodshop
@rookiewoodshop 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick. Just ordered a pair of parallel clamps. Never seen it, but because of you, Rich and this community, we don’t have to fumble around anymore. Great tip. 😎
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - let me know how you like it when you try it
@deankramasz2896
@deankramasz2896 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick, I've been using that technique for a while. The only thing I worry about is clamping the aligning clamping to tight that it restricts the other clamping. Yes it does work well. Makes me start to feel like I'm starting to have confidence when I see things I'm doing that others are not. I still have a long way to go. Thanks. P.S. still waiting on the 2nd half of the Valentine box. My wife's getting impatient.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - the "squeeze" clamp always overpowers the "alignment" clamp - didn't forget about the box - hope to be back on it soon
@153331
@153331 6 жыл бұрын
Dean Kramasz rosaruirosary
@Mr407etr
@Mr407etr 6 жыл бұрын
Dean Kramasz ii
@JLWoodArtistries
@JLWoodArtistries 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I discovered this technique after struggling through several glue-ups. It takes the stress out of it and produces a great result when the clamps come off. I’m glad you shared this. Take care.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - you take care as well!
@chrisdaniel1339
@chrisdaniel1339 6 ай бұрын
Why not just put two parallel clamps on, one on each end and then add all your other clamps, then remove the parallel clamps at the end or heck leave them on they are inconsequential at that point. This way saves from having to readjust a single parallel clamp multiple time
@beckyofthenerdsisback3301
@beckyofthenerdsisback3301 5 жыл бұрын
THANKS. I am actually just getting into wood working and was looking into how to build up wooden structures... and this randomly showed up. your channel looks amazing!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
thanks much - happy woodworking!
@theosmits1141
@theosmits1141 6 жыл бұрын
I dont have any parallel clamps but i do the same thing i would on bigger glue ups i use cauls just for allignment like that then right away remove em for clamping other side for even pressure and to clean up
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet - good way of doing it too!
@bonedaddy_p7
@bonedaddy_p7 6 жыл бұрын
Aye, You're basically using the parallel clamp as a temporary caul. Another big thing is working from one end to the other as opposed to ends first. I think it's great to share stuff like this as not everyone thinks of it.
@Ferndalien
@Ferndalien 6 жыл бұрын
Cauls can be custom made to fit a glue-up or assembly job. There are plenty of articles and images on the web. I also keep cauls from sticking to the assembly with plastic wrap. Just enough to fit between the caul and the wood plus an inch or two on each side.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Ferndalien or packing tape works good as well
@helshabini
@helshabini 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't have parallel clamps, try a straight piece of scrap and normal clamps to distribute the pressure over the whole edge.
@jameskniskern2261
@jameskniskern2261 6 жыл бұрын
Useful tip. Nice demonstration. And goes to show that no matter how long you've been doing something, somebody can come along and figure out a better/easier/faster way of doing something. Thanks.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Yup - always a good thing to remember
@acanadianwoodworker
@acanadianwoodworker 6 жыл бұрын
4:20 - years later, it was actually determined to be the biggest glue-up in the history of woodworking #historymade
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha - I want a trophy then! 🏆
@ianwilliamtait9909
@ianwilliamtait9909 6 жыл бұрын
check it with CC before making comments about what someone said. He said, "This isn't necessarily the biggest glue up in the history of woodworking."
@jajablonsky
@jajablonsky 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice Nick. I did the exact thing during one of my glue ups and a buddy told me my clamp was going the wrong way too. He never saw this technic before and he's been woodworking for about 15 years.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Goes to show what we do can be an eye opener to others
@shaneneedham262
@shaneneedham262 4 жыл бұрын
Very good idea, I used it for the first time last night and it really works well. I can see why it blew his mind, i had never thought of it in that scenario.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 4 жыл бұрын
That’s great - I know a few have seen this before but comments like this make me glad I did the video
@bbrachman
@bbrachman 6 жыл бұрын
Nick: This technique (seems to me) only works if every board is the exact same width. If the boards are slightly off, then I cannot see it working well. The parallel clamp would only touch the widest board.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
In that case you wouldn't need to be so exact in the first place - if they slid a little it'd be no big deal
@bbrachman
@bbrachman 6 жыл бұрын
Correct. I end up just aligning one common edge. Glue them up and then hand plane the uneven edge down to dimension. Seems to work. Can't say enough about parallel clamps. Glue ups became a pleasure after I got a set.
@bestopaever8418
@bestopaever8418 6 жыл бұрын
The parallel clamp would only touch the widest board, but it would still limit the amount that the narrower boards could slide - which is the intent of the solution.
@Fanofrealtalent
@Fanofrealtalent 6 жыл бұрын
Nick, truly seems like a great idea. Sometimes it isn’t the earth shattering discoveries that mean as much as the simple ideas that make routine tasks easier. Thanks for the ideas...
@skie6282
@skie6282 6 жыл бұрын
You could put wedges or shims for the less wide pieces so that they will all stay close
@andrewroberts4745
@andrewroberts4745 6 жыл бұрын
Laminating legs for a platform bed frame and found this tip I will be exercising - thanks Nick, just saved me some ball ache.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Well I’m glad I could you forgo that, lol
@thedrizz1913
@thedrizz1913 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing use for my sole parallel clamp. Great tip Nick! First time seeing it.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
It is - but of course now you need more parallel clamps
@tomsenft7434
@tomsenft7434 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Ferry : parallel clamps are expensive; I use scrap wood as cauls and wax paper.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
another great way of doing it - for me this has been quicker - and try packing tape on cauls instead of wax paper - makes positioning a breeze
@zzgarden
@zzgarden 5 жыл бұрын
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@b1j
@b1j 4 жыл бұрын
@LARPin’ 4 the LORD I got a similar deal from Home Depot earlier this year on a set of four KRE REVOlution K-Body clamps: two 24" and two 50". Amazing price. You have to wait and watch for discounts to come along. I'll bet we'll see some sales once we come out of our isolation later this year. I've had some Bessey parallel clamps for over a decade, and these new ones are far better. Parallel clamps do what others can't. Nick has shown us a creative use for them!
@helshabini
@helshabini 6 жыл бұрын
I saw similar techniques many times before but never that simple as moving a parallel clamp from one side to the other. I guess you've shown the best way to do it. Well done.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Always a different way to do things - thanks
@vallejokid1968
@vallejokid1968 6 жыл бұрын
Kinda felt like I watching a cooking show
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Maple and glue cake!
@calebreasons
@calebreasons 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was watching this and said that same thing to my wife! 😂
@BIGWIGGLE223
@BIGWIGGLE223 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. Where's the little bowls of glue to mix in with the wood chips though??
@52wml
@52wml 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip, I hate to admit it but I've been doing woodworking for a hobby for years and never saw or thought about this technique. Thanks for sharing.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
no problem - learn something new everyday
@RonMarshallrone
@RonMarshallrone 6 жыл бұрын
I'll admit, I was a slippery brad nailer person until now. Great tip!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - let me know how this works out for you
@j.macjordan9779
@j.macjordan9779 6 жыл бұрын
Slippery Nailer just so happens to be my gay porn stage name!
@valentinassabaliauskas913
@valentinassabaliauskas913 6 жыл бұрын
I used to make doors so I do know this method but you absolutely corect by showing this method no one was born with knowledge and we all have to learn after over 20 years in building trade I still find things to learn in a fields that I thought that I knew
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
exactly - you never know where you can pick up some new skills
@ManCrafting
@ManCrafting 6 жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty good tip. Good to have in the back pocket of tricks.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Chad - it sure is
@KSFWG
@KSFWG 6 жыл бұрын
Back pocket? This one's going in the small notebook I keep in the shirt pocket! ;) lol
@tibfulv
@tibfulv 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking add two pieces of scrap wood clamped to either end, but the parallel clamp makes that unnecessary. Huh. And I see what I'm thinking of is an old idea called a caul. Nothing is ever new, lol.
@trueleyes
@trueleyes 6 жыл бұрын
BRAVO, You are the first person I've seen on You Tube that has advocated the gluing of a peace on both sides other than me. I have a video on my Roubo Bench build and in it I mention the necessity of gluing both surfaces for the best results in wide areas to be glued up. During my apprenticeship I worked with a lot of German cabinet shops here in Los Angles and they all thought me that method of gluing bar none. The only thing I would say I differ with your comment is that I was thought to put one side a very good cover of glue but not to excess and the on the other side a light cover so that both sides have a complete cover of glue but not to waist glue on the run out of glue. A little run out was professionally accepted but a huge run out was looked upon as very amateurish meaning the one hadn't yet learn how to properly glue up a peace of wood. I never knew exactly way it was the best other then that was the way to do a good job take a look at my bench build Dan West Roubo Bench build
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Cool to hear - I do really like breaking that surface tension between pieces - I normally put a hair less glue on - being I had one take to get this right and it all was in one take, I probably went a bit heavier then normal
@Colaaah
@Colaaah 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a qualified wood machinist amougst other things. I'll start with I agree that you can't have to much glue, but you can have not enough. The way I would do it, you don't need to worry about the timber slipping and I would do all 4 legs laminated in one hit. Say on the lengths of timber you are using, I would lay approx 6 X 900mm sash clamps down. Put all of your glued timbers in. All 4 legs, as they will stay separate without glue between legs. Then lay your other sash clamps on top between your underneath clamps. Then start to tighten each Clamp randomly top and bottom clamps until they bite. And then go over them all again when your happy where they are sitting and do them up nice n tight. All 4 legs done, no hassles. (And that's without talking about woodgrain directions into the laminating situation.) I believe I'd have my 4 legs glued and straight while your still lining your timbers up with your lining up clamp and clamping your 2nd leg together. I don't mean to sound rude. It's just the way it is 😜🤔🤣
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
very well could - always cool hearing how others accomplish the same task differently
@Colaaah
@Colaaah 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Ferry your welcome, I hope it came across clear. Cheers. Melbourne, Australia
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
clear enough for discussion - I see you said you're from Australia, do you have any HNT Gordon tools? I got one of their planes about a year ago and it is top notch
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 6 жыл бұрын
Great tip. My late father was a carpenter/woodworker on the side and built several chopping blocks which are laminated much like what you did. He used a couple of bar clamps as the base to position the wood on and then when all glued surfaces were placed would clamp them in the already positioned bar clamp. Once dried he ran both sides through a planer to get rid of any warps or bows.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Nice - ever better that you have those ideas from your dad!
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Ferry - for sure. It's funny what we remember after someone is gone.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
it really is - thanks for sharing!
@holzhandwerk_ak
@holzhandwerk_ak 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent tip. Will come in handy. Thanks Nick.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful!
@henningmogensen9144
@henningmogensen9144 5 жыл бұрын
Its interesting that the method youe show have been forgotten over the last 50 years. So thank you for refreshing the memory
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
no problem
@davebauerart
@davebauerart 6 жыл бұрын
Great idea and excellent explanation/demonstration. Extra points for the brayer glue spreader.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - they do work slick
@vicdelrosario4099
@vicdelrosario4099 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy and i learned something about woodworking that i am very loved. Carpentry works is the source on how i feed my first child and support my family.
@stevecoster322
@stevecoster322 6 жыл бұрын
The man is a genius... nice one dear sir. Simple but effective, very nice, thank you.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Steve - I'm glad my buddy convinced me to share it!
@jjp52
@jjp52 6 жыл бұрын
Not trying to be a jerk, but couldn’t you just do it on both ends and call it good or do you have to work your way down? Great technique though that I will begin using in the future
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
This way you can correct bent or warped boards too
@magbxl
@magbxl 6 жыл бұрын
If you got a bad enough bent/wrap, the boards may start sliding as soon as you remove the "side" clamp. It happened to me once, but to be fair it was 12 feets long 4'' by 8'', and I surely did not have enough and strong enough clamps for the job. A bit of sand did help there.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
robert winton - exactly
@egilsandnes9637
@egilsandnes9637 6 жыл бұрын
I usually use a "glue-buck" (like a sawing horse), and I never remove the correcting clamps until a need them another place. Also, regular F-clamps combined with pieces of scrap wood with a piece of adhesive tape works just as good as parallell clamps. For big glue-ups putting straight boards on the side while glueing can straighten up the pieces and heavily reduce the number of clamps you need.
@cuskit
@cuskit 6 жыл бұрын
You should have flattened and jointed your wood before gluing up. If you need clamps to bend wood to bring them into alignment while gluing up - your legs will have a lot of movement down the road due to stress. That wood will want to 'spring' back to where it was before you forced them into alignment with the clamps. Golden rule of woodworking. In our shop we always cut the wood a bit longer to allow for a pin on each end, that will be cut off before the exact sizing of the wood takes place. I believe I even heard you state that your pieces were a bit longer than needed. By the way, this is constructive advice only - not malicious criticism. Love your channel, enjoy watching your videos! mike
@wpd3004
@wpd3004 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, As a new wood worker this was a great video. I will be adding this skill to my very limited arsenal. Sometimes, what one thinks are the most simple skills, are really the most important. Because they are repeated over and over they become second nature. For a new wood worker they are great to learn. Thank you
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comment - makes me think I made the right decision to make this video
@JustAnotherDayToday
@JustAnotherDayToday 6 жыл бұрын
“Starvation of glue.” That’s a new way to put it. 😆
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Always a new way to slice it
@gandjboyd7872
@gandjboyd7872 6 жыл бұрын
Used this method Sunday morning worked very well , making my grandson a twin bed
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
awesome - and I just saw the pictures on Facebook - thanks for sharing those and glad to hear it worked out well for you!
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Nick! Thanks for sharing it with us .😎👍JP
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
As always, thanks for checking it out!
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 6 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Nick! 😎
@jaymac2515
@jaymac2515 Жыл бұрын
I was a little worried about doing a glue up very similar to the one in the video. I'm glad I stumbled upon this before I started. Thanks!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry Жыл бұрын
Perfect - let me know how it goes
@jaymac2515
@jaymac2515 Жыл бұрын
@@NickFerry it turned out great! Thanks again!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry Жыл бұрын
@@jaymac2515 good to hear - my pleasure
@SirBenJamin_
@SirBenJamin_ 6 жыл бұрын
So help me god .. if he pulls out a domino I'm gonna smash this cup against his .... ohh .. that's cool
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
now that's funny!!!
@MNhockeydude35
@MNhockeydude35 6 жыл бұрын
I have a domino, this comment is hilarious!!!
@valerieburton8809
@valerieburton8809 6 жыл бұрын
wforl was 2
@carpenterone3
@carpenterone3 6 жыл бұрын
That literally made me laugh out loud 😎
@nexgen91
@nexgen91 6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Warkive
@Warkive 4 жыл бұрын
I saw this video a long time ago when I had first started looking into wookworking resources on KZbin. I remember at the time thinking this was a great idea for glue-ups, but either because it was late or I was distracted I forgot both where I saw it and the overall method itself, but the knowledge I had seen a video that would really help with aligning laminations during glue-up stuck with me...and to degree haunted and annoyed me. And somehow today through the miracle of KZbin algorithms, I wandered in this video again and I'm really glad to both have this knowledge and the monkey off my back of not remembering.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha - glad you found it - happens to me as well
@Padraigcoelfir
@Padraigcoelfir 6 жыл бұрын
Must be an American thing not knowing about that "tip".
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Precisely - it's a complete skill to get born somewhere else - I'm glad you had the foresight as an embryo to choose which geographical region of the planet to be birthed in
@markgigiel2722
@markgigiel2722 6 жыл бұрын
LOL. PLAY NICE KIDDIES..
@markgigiel2722
@markgigiel2722 6 жыл бұрын
Nick I'm new here Thanks for the heart, now go make some sawdust and get off the internet. :-)
@marklumley619
@marklumley619 6 жыл бұрын
PatCat no not an American thing just novices who think by watching KZbin they can be master carpenters. I love watching these hacks point out the obvious. Notice he talked about his friend who for ten years professionally and ten years before that worked with wood but never saw this. I'm laughing so hard, I'm glad I stumbled onto this video. Then his comment about making sure the glue doesn't touch the one edge as though the thought of wiping it off with a damp rag or sponge never occurred to him. 😂😂
@Puggy1234ful
@Puggy1234ful 6 жыл бұрын
must be an European thing being such a bigot.
@Hubbmade
@Hubbmade 6 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen it done quite like this, but the amazing thing was that I was actually thinking about how to glue up some legs today and this video popped up in my email!Talk about your perfect timing! Thanks for the video Nick
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing - I rarely get that one so I'll take it!
@keithterrill2303
@keithterrill2303 10 ай бұрын
Thank-you. I was pondering how to glue some together. The parallel clamp use is new for me. Again, thanks.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 10 ай бұрын
No problem, glad I could help - parallel clamps are definitely an investment and they’re not the most versatile but when they do come in to play they’re rather useful - for smaller stuff check out parallel jaw pliers
@cammie8701
@cammie8701 3 жыл бұрын
I've been doing this since I started woodworking BUT the SALT tip is what I really needed! Thanks.
@trooperjoe73
@trooperjoe73 6 жыл бұрын
This video has come up recommended, many times. I've skipped over it, but I also never got to see any other of your videos. Now that I have, glad I did. Subbed.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Great - glad to have you here!
@castaicmikeshea
@castaicmikeshea 6 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for some revolutionary tip. lol. however from the looks of it a lot of people never knew you could do this. Thanks for sharing. I always clamp the boards to the table with several parallel clamps across the entire workpiece and then the table acts as a level clamping surface for the bottom. Then clamp the boards together across the entire glue up.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
another great way to do it - yeah it seems some have seen it as obvious and others never thought of it or tried it
@WackeyWorxWorkshop
@WackeyWorxWorkshop 6 жыл бұрын
Without any formal training, everything we do in the shop is trial and error. Any info that someone, such as yourself, can give is very useful. Keep up the good work.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
well put - the learning and mistakes is just part of the fun
@ScotchAddict35
@ScotchAddict35 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick! I’m pretty new to woodworking and never thought about this nor have I ever seen anyone else do it.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
perfect - then it helped in some way
@1967duane
@1967duane 6 жыл бұрын
After stumbling across this video, I am a fan, thanks
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you liked it
@rhihodag9873
@rhihodag9873 6 жыл бұрын
Great recommendation, Nick! I have to make a small side table and I'm going to employ your method in gluing up the legs. This just makes a lot of common sense. Sometimes the obvious is illusive.....to some of us.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help - I should have a leg making video out soon as well that's got some cool ideas in it
@mfarace67
@mfarace67 6 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of a parallel clamp or seen this method. very nice! A pastry brush works great to spread glue also.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I could see a pastry brush working great too
@hardnox6655
@hardnox6655 6 жыл бұрын
Well explained. I use a 3/8" thick 2 x 2 angle as a straight guide for the f-clamps. The workpiece is then dead straight. No jointing required.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
nice - sure would be a time saver
@GarrethandPipa
@GarrethandPipa 6 жыл бұрын
they have had angular clamps for at least 40 years. It literally does exact what your doing. I used them more in welding class but we had them in the wood shop as well.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to know - I haven't really seen them in the welding arena
@candidosalgado
@candidosalgado 6 жыл бұрын
This tip came from heaven. Tomorrow I have a big glue up and this will help pretty much. Just subscribed. Cheers from Australia.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
awesome - for once my timing is impeccable - glad to have you here!
@bonniebarber6114
@bonniebarber6114 6 жыл бұрын
I am doing so many glue ups this week and this really helped me out with a pretty warped board. Thanks Nick
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome - glad you could pick up some ideas!
@davidcerce
@davidcerce 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great technique! I don’t think I’ve seen this on KZbin before. I do it like this also, using calls and clamps, and I usually glue up all 4 legs at the same time. Saves time and the number of clamps needed!
@danburch9989
@danburch9989 6 жыл бұрын
Like you, I was surprised to hear you say that a professional woodworker didn't know about this. I used that technique to make balusters for a railing. I've also been using a similar technique when I edge glue narrow boards together to make a panel. I clamp a long, square thick-walled aluminum stock across the boards to get their surfaces as close to the same plane as possible. Keeps them from forming an arc when I use bar clamps to draw the planks together.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Another good idea - makes sense on making balusters
@jeremyspecce
@jeremyspecce 6 жыл бұрын
Dan Burch I have like a 2x3 piece of aluminum that is very straight that I'll use and just clamp in with any lamination I do to make sure it comes out straight. I've used this a number of times with plywood making fences for table saw sleds and router tables. Works great!
@rhwoodshop
@rhwoodshop 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice tip Nick. I’ve actually used this technique for a couple years now and it works perfectly. You never cease to make me laugh! Great job.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Drew - you know me, always messing around
@MoreClientsFast
@MoreClientsFast 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video... I would have never thought if this and is definitely a huge tip that WORKS... THANK YOU. Why anyone would give a thumbs down to this is beyond me man... a BIG thumba up from me.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - can't please everyone - seems like a lot of people liked the idea and are trying it out, which is awesome
@petermjonas
@petermjonas 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I want to make some simple side tables but I have not laminated table legs yet. Your video gives me some guidance to give it a shot.
@abbledabbler
@abbledabbler 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I am working on a chess table with intricate legs and designs and couldn’t find the right thickness and this helped tremendously
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect, glad I could help
@Qzainal
@Qzainal 6 жыл бұрын
I always use more pressure and less glue. And never got any problem yet! Nice video.. Thank you
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@deanaoxo
@deanaoxo 6 жыл бұрын
Plus, since you are planning on running it through the planer(or jointer), you don't have to worry about the blades. Bravo. and thank you.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@StationaryNomad361
@StationaryNomad361 6 жыл бұрын
Ok so I clamped some pieces together that will eventually be coffee table legs and I realize I have no idea how to get them to stop sliding around. So this video kiiiiind of saved my life. Thank you!!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice - good timing then
@Ibaneddie76
@Ibaneddie76 6 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, this is how I glue multi laminate guitar necks, I also have a jig I built that does the same thing but if you aren't doing a bunch of repetitive glue ups this is for sure the way to go. Good stuff Nick.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man - guitar necks would be kinda cool to see in multi contrasting woods as well - maybe that's common but I know very little about guitars
@wendyduwe3995
@wendyduwe3995 6 жыл бұрын
i like it a lot, i didnt know that and i have been doing woodwork for some time now. i am planing to do a table for my family and i will clamp the 4 pieces of wood to form the leg. thanks for the idea. great stuff. udo duwe
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
nice - yeah some have done it this way before but a lot of people have never seen it - glad I could help!
@ZacJones
@ZacJones 6 жыл бұрын
You can never have too many clamps, especially in this case. Thanks Nick for the videos!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
no problem - clamps are odd that way
@capti443
@capti443 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick! I use a slightly different technique where I align the pieces with two or three traditional wooden hand screw clamps, and then use metal clamps to compress the laminations against the length of a flat bench. That way, the glue-up is both lined up and straight, and gravity works with me to keep one board clean for truing the glue-up on a table saw or with a router. Good comment on orienting the wood to have the slight bends work against each other. I do that too and have great results.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
very cool - another great way of doing it
@esmefiorio4439
@esmefiorio4439 6 жыл бұрын
Capt I 6’&
@josephkerley363
@josephkerley363 6 жыл бұрын
Most excellent! This older dog just learned a new trick!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Nice - glad I could be a part of it!
@gullrockgeorge9057
@gullrockgeorge9057 6 жыл бұрын
I've used a variation of this technique but I like your method a little better. I'll try it next time I do a similar glue-up.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you think of it
@dabluox
@dabluox 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Why didn’t I ever think of this. That’s really a good tip. Thanks Nick.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@chuckwheeler8259
@chuckwheeler8259 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Nick. The parallel clamps are so expensive for a weekend woodworker. Thank you so much for this tip.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
No problem man - it’s one of those things you need to but a couple every year - or at least I do - they add up quick
@udotolearn7792
@udotolearn7792 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick, this is a great idea for a good fit. I will be using this method. Sometimes this most simple method is the best.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
I agree - thanks
@babypunkangel
@babypunkangel 6 жыл бұрын
Back in Rochester NY I worked at a museum where I was one of the youngest woodworkers. I had over 25 years working with wood and the older guys used to laugh at me for doing what you just did. I showed up to work on a day off and found out that three of them started doing the same thing but didn't want to look like they learned something from the "younger generation" so it was only done when I wasn't looking or when I was off. I made them a gift after I found this out. The gift was for all of them and it was a hand carved replica of my hand... giving them all the finger! LOL Never feel bad about doing something others don't do. it just means you think for yourself!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
I can see that being the case - I try to keep an open mind to new techniques myself but I'm guilty of relying on tried and true as well - it's a bit messed up from time to time - always more to learn
@tannin2249
@tannin2249 6 жыл бұрын
Nice tip! I don't have a parallel clamp but sometimes I bodge one up with two G clamps and a couple of bits of scrap timber. But mostly I just put clamps on the normal way round but do them up only medium tight at first. Then tap gently on the ends and sides with a hammer to line everything up. Clamp down tight when it's all straight. Your method is better though. Nice one. (More tools to buy, just when I thought I had everything.)
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks - I like your method too - that's the cool part is figuring out multiple way to do things
@ScotTheGr8
@ScotTheGr8 5 жыл бұрын
Nice idea, I will have to try it. I have always used a small biscuit at each end. Can always cut through them if need to cut into glue-ups. Quick to do against the table saw fence.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
My go to for years was biscuits - I still bust it out occasionally
@richardburgos4230
@richardburgos4230 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this demo, I haven’t started wood work yet but it’s something I’m definitely interested in. Im putting this in my “how to folder”
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
very cool - glad you liked it!
@billy19461
@billy19461 6 жыл бұрын
I had to hunt this video because I have to do this today and I had forgotten. Thanks from an old beginner!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
No problem - glad you found it!
@billy19461
@billy19461 6 жыл бұрын
I knew I had seen it before but IHad forgotten how and who. But I sure am glad I found it.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
if you did it already, how did it work out for you?
@billy19461
@billy19461 6 жыл бұрын
Should have made 2 or3 glue ups instead of one big one. Had 9 pieces of Baltic birch 1/2" thick and it worked way better than the way I was doing it. Next time I will do 3 then put them together.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
cool - always learning
@barryinn1778
@barryinn1778 6 жыл бұрын
Great tip, I have never seen this one. I usually lay my big clamps on their backs and put tape on clamp to keep the glue from the getting on them.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
The tape is always a good tip!
@b1j
@b1j 4 жыл бұрын
@@NickFerry I like parchment paper. It works like magic. Glue doesn't have a chance with it.
@Thom4123
@Thom4123 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip I’ve never seen it done like this before but it makes complete sense. Definitely going to use this method next time.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Rich got me to post it then
@sfcgutowski
@sfcgutowski 3 ай бұрын
Great tip. Question: How would you do this glue-up? Two pieces of 3/4” thick hard maple 30” long if you needed them to be 1-1/2” thick and 30” long? I noticed that you didn’t care about the length of the wood and assumed you would trim that off, but I already cut all my wood to the needed size.
@juggernaut3299
@juggernaut3299 4 жыл бұрын
This was great. I am getting ready to do a project with some glue ups and I was curious on how to get the legs right. Very helpful. I need more clamps!
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