A Few Thoughts on Hunter × Hunter 🎣 - WIAGW

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@isthisajojoreference
@isthisajojoreference 5 жыл бұрын
Broke: Gon didn't earn his meeting with Ging, his friends are the only reason he did was able to. Woke: Gon meeting Ging because of his friends is fitting because he would have met him at the end of Greed Island, had he not tried to bring a friend.
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 5 жыл бұрын
THE SERIES IS JUST TOO PURE & WHOLESOME!!! T T🧡💛💙💚❤
@argnator
@argnator 5 жыл бұрын
That's a great point. Ging set up everything in Gon's life to help him become a stalwart asshole loner like he was, because it worked out great for him, and made Greed Island as the final test for his developmental powers so they could meet once he beat it, but only if he did it alone and went to him by himself. He was expecting Gon to stay alone like he did and do everything alone to prove his inborn talent that the Freeces family has but Gon was too much of a Happy Boy and made friends. The fact that Ging was found by means other than what he himself set up undermined his entire life-driving events as Gon's super-absentee-but-still-somehow-thematically-present puppeteer father undermines him not just as that father, proving that family can be the friends you find along the way, but as the World's Greatest Hunter as well. It's a huge defeat for Ging as a pseudo-antagonist in the way of being Gon's ultimate quarry. Looking at it with the traditional "heroes should carve their own way" feels intentionally wrong, at least in the terms of how Togashi presented the story up to that point. I can't defend Alluka though, aside from the "pure love gets you what you want", so BGE is still an immaculate god of critique.
@BigFearedBalloon
@BigFearedBalloon 5 жыл бұрын
I more view it as, Ging trying to get Gon to make his own journey and make his own memories and friends on his journey to find him... Like how Ging made memories that weren't about the destination but the journey. Plus I find it interesting how Ging views Gon's Friends as all Gon needs, mainly when he is questioned by Leorio about why Ging didn't go see Gon. Still I'm unsure about the Greed Island warp card but I remember that was just Ging being embarrassed to meet Gon's Friends if he brought any.
@amanofculture4892
@amanofculture4892 5 жыл бұрын
@@argnator hunterbro... *sniffles and wipes tear*
@almightyemperortserriednic9237
@almightyemperortserriednic9237 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the little detours, because that's where you'll find, a stupid fucking review of HxH.
@jonahszaro3545
@jonahszaro3545 5 жыл бұрын
It’s called hunter X hunter but they never even kiss...
@SuiteLifeofDioBrando
@SuiteLifeofDioBrando 5 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@Odinsday
@Odinsday 5 жыл бұрын
@Oz ....... No
@jonahszaro3545
@jonahszaro3545 5 жыл бұрын
William Henning I will beat you bloody
@williamhenning4700
@williamhenning4700 5 жыл бұрын
@@jonahszaro3545 :>
@Never_Know_Best
@Never_Know_Best 5 жыл бұрын
Jo Taro dw dude, just got to wait for Killua to hit puberty and confess
@souffle-d-eclair
@souffle-d-eclair 5 жыл бұрын
*hears Nate pronounce Kite* *has an aneurysm*
@dai-f4s
@dai-f4s 5 жыл бұрын
_keeté_
@haldir108
@haldir108 5 жыл бұрын
キテ does NOT get pronounced Kait. If you've refered to him by the same name you use for a lightweight windpowered flying object, you are the one who is wrong.
@yurifaggu
@yurifaggu 5 жыл бұрын
@@haldir108 They call him Kaito in anime, it's definitely not ki-te.
@haldir108
@haldir108 5 жыл бұрын
@@yurifaggu Just mangaboi things then i guess.
@cototo
@cototo 5 жыл бұрын
@@haldir108 friend its kaito not kite
@ValforDragoon
@ValforDragoon 5 жыл бұрын
I can understand your preference for the earlier, simpler parts of HxH over recent developments, but for me, the criticisms you raised towards the series have actually been what has drawn me into the series even more. You’ve said that the series is about Gon finding his father, but I feel as though this is a rather shortsighted interpretation of what the series has at its heart. The series has its goals for characters to strive after, but at heart, the series is so much more about the adventures found along the way. It’s something that I truly love about it. Reading through the series in its entirety allows you to experience such a strong feeling when looking back and saying “wow, look how far we’ve come.” It’s about going through life and experiencing all of the joys and tragedies along the way. The friends you make. The little detours that end up being far more important than your initial goal. (Edit: another really good video worth watching on this topic is The Natural Progression of Hunter x Hunter, by Mathwiz.) The series has always been like this. Even as early as the Yorknew city art, we feel the world start to pull back, in a sense, as we see that Gon, Killua and friends are, relatively, a very very small part of everything that’s going on. This continues into the dark continent arc as well, as we discover that everything that has happened thus far has only happened on a small set of islands in the center of a massive lake. This current arc has me more excited than just about anything before it, just because I know that the dark continent is being set up to have HUGE ramifications behind it. It’s portrayed as the land where humanity should NEVER go, lest they open Pandora’s box. I’m so, SO excited to see the horror and calamity that’s sure to unfold as our big cast of characters arrive there. A cast of characters who, mind you, Togashi has set up individually with their own goals and motivations that are destined to clash and rip each other apart. It’s the beauty of chaos. It’s the beating heart of adventure, and the friends you make along the way. THAT is what Hunter x Hunter is about to me, and it’s a series that’s only felt more special to me as time has gone on. I’d really encourage you to not give up on the series, and maybe try to give it another read with a perspective not focusing directly on Gon finding Ging, but more seeing the larger adventure itself. And if you want a great video that crystallizes these concepts, I’d highly recommend giving Super Eyepatch Wolf’s “Why You Should STILL Watch Hunter x Hunter” a watch. And I would also say, I completely understand feeling lost in the current arc. The walls of text certainly do get a bit excessive and overwhelming. One thing I’ve found worth trying is reading the VIZ official translation of the work. The unofficial scanslations of dark continent are a bit lacking and needlessly confusing, I’ve found. I really hope you can come to enjoy the series more. It’s one of my favorites, and it would be really great if you could find the same love for it that I have. But if you still can’t get into it, that’s ok. There’s other things to enjoy :) I’ll just be over here waiting for Togashi to come back off hiatus lol. This was long as hell, but thanks for reading.
@X3MAntics
@X3MAntics 5 жыл бұрын
Nanika's one of the most misunderstood characters in this series. Remember, the Zoldycks & even Killua who knows her best still don't know everything about her. There are subtle, unspoken rules about her power, and Nanika as an entity serves as an introduction for the next arc. But first let's list down what we know for a fact : 1. There's a difference between a "wish" & a "command." Killua insinuated that distinction in episode 140 when he literally said "I can't make a wish, but I can still issue a command." 2. Nobody else can utilize Nanika's powers except Killua (there's a reason for this), therefore the law of equivalent exchange is ironclad for anyone else that wishes. 3. Killua wasn't fulfilling any requests from Alluka in that locked room to make a "wish." That wasn't Nanika he was interacting with, he was just playing with Alluka, the one who calls him "brother." A misdirection for the Zoldycks. Hence why he said with certainty that "they definitely don't know about the other rules." 4. Killua didn't pay for Milluki's wish for a computer, Tsubone did, with her nails. Most people missed this. 5. She has to touch the target to fix / heal. We know in Nen, the most powerfully hax abilities require conditions / limitations / price, or at least some sort of prerequisite. That said, these are the possible unspoken rules to her power that are my own interpretation. 1. To be able to issue a command, you first must build an emotional bond with Nanika. (Which is why only Killua has this privilege) 2. Selfish / cruel wishes exact a heavy price in return. 3. Selfless / benevolent wishes don't require brutal consequences. But it has minor side-effects for Alluka. Hence why she gets tired, and sometimes passes out after healing. Long story short, this concept is similar to how the nimbus cloud works. In the sense that only those with pure hearts can ride it. In the same manner only those with pure intentions can truly utilize Nanika's powers without consequences. But the catch 22 is that the characters who can actually "abuse her powers," won't. Which is practically a conditional paradox that's grounded in the narrative. Her power has obvious limitations. I,e, you can't wish for something as preposterous as the world getting destroyed within the next few seconds. How her power works however is that it can make variables connect to fulfill the wish. For example, theoretically, it can shift a meteorite's trajectory, and in due time destroy the Earth, killing everyone in the process as the price for a wish of that magnitude. In retrospect, I came to these conclusions because of what we know about what Nanika is. [SPOILER] (An A.I, "Codependence of Desire," a Gaseous Life-Form . One of the 5 calamities of the DC.)
@PlanetaryPluto
@PlanetaryPluto 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Beautiful. Also I Believe Ai Is Ranked Higher On The Calamities Threat List Than The Chimera Ant Species.
@MikeyDLuffy
@MikeyDLuffy 5 жыл бұрын
@@PlanetaryPluto Yea, pretty sure Ai was tied at the highest overall threat at A. Chimera ants were B
@X3MAntics
@X3MAntics 5 жыл бұрын
@ There are limitations, I just listed some, but I suppose you're ignoring that.
5 жыл бұрын
@@X3MAntics I read what you wrote. Did you, friend? There's limitations on Nanika's wishes. "Commands" are a separate action. Killua doesn't have to follow any rules when he commands Nanika. Even Illumi notices he doesn't have follow any rules. He also doesn't have to pay any price. At all. Otherwise, there'd be a shit ton of problems after she heals Gon. Conclusion: there's no limit to what Killua can command Alluka to do. Its basically a plot device for Killua.
@X3MAntics
@X3MAntics 5 жыл бұрын
@ ​ "Fixing is not her forte." Which is why she has to touch a target in order to heal or fix it. Ergo, it has limitations. Killua simply can't "command" her to heal everyone sick in the world. That's not how her power works.
@svnms8841
@svnms8841 5 жыл бұрын
I love how Gon just met Ging in an anti-climactic way, everything ending up in a thematically fitting way is something I don't want to see everywhere in a series, makes it feel too fictional. (but then again, BGE is the type of person who loves series with a main theme to which all events fit perfectly, like Gurren Lagann) About Chrollo getting stronger over time. I shouldn't need to say this, but all characters grow in power as time goes on. If Chrollo is so great, why not develop this bookmark long ago ? for the same reason Killua didn't develop god speed the moment he learned how to convert his Nen, for the same reason Netero had to punch empty air for so long. I read Hunter x Hunter mostly for how imaginative it is, the character interactions and Nen powers and how these powers interact to achieve different goals (which aren't always about how to kill someone). So I actually love the succession arc. Also, about Alluka, spoilers ahead . . . The "something" part of her that grants wishes is actually from the dark continent. She is actually powerful enough to heal gon, she is the "Ai" that is mentionned during the Dark Continent arc as one of the calamities, it isn't a Killua + Alluka power of friendship. Things from the Dark Continent are powerful, and Gon having to pay a price to beat one of the weaker things from the continent (Chimera ants) only to be healed by one of the stronger things from the Dark Continent makes sense. The theme of "overcoming the risk and getting hope from the dark continent" is always present throughout the arc, and Alluka (although introduced in a previous arc) is an example of one such entity where the risk it brings is very high, but can also bring hope. And I assume it is the same thing for Hellbell and the other creatures mentionned in the manga.
@MorganTJ813
@MorganTJ813 5 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see that Greed Island video. Also, I like to think the price Gon paid for his power-up was that he had to give up his main character status.
@animeentranced1130
@animeentranced1130 5 жыл бұрын
Parco folgore friend. Agreed.
@kinghazythethird
@kinghazythethird 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao good point I didnt think of that
@cototo
@cototo 5 жыл бұрын
Fucking meta
@1chibanKasuga
@1chibanKasuga 5 жыл бұрын
@@animeentranced1130 me too.
@8bitmagic
@8bitmagic 5 жыл бұрын
"I don't care...if this is the end"
@BinaryDood
@BinaryDood 5 жыл бұрын
literally did not watch the best anime adaptation of all time.
@astralking907
@astralking907 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s the best of all time but it’s up there
@islandboy9381
@islandboy9381 4 жыл бұрын
Monster would like a word with you
@BinaryDood
@BinaryDood 4 жыл бұрын
@@islandboy9381 The Monster manga is better imo
@kurovisuals4272
@kurovisuals4272 3 жыл бұрын
Death note was a really good adaptation
@kurovisuals4272
@kurovisuals4272 3 жыл бұрын
The manga is just as good Togashi is a legendary artist
@Lyoshi157
@Lyoshi157 5 жыл бұрын
>reading the mangastream translation for the dark continent arc Big YIKES from me N8. Memes aside, these are all valid criticisms, even if I personally feel differently about some of them. Really the biggest shame about the series is the hiatuses, it feels like the current arc would really benefit from being read all at once but that seems like a distant dream.
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 5 жыл бұрын
But that was true for Chimera Ant arc too so eh it is what it is
@someguy4405
@someguy4405 5 жыл бұрын
Lyoshi157 Just reread the whole arc every time shit comes out. You have enough time.
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 5 жыл бұрын
Some Guy yeah that shit won’t be done in the next century or so lol /s
@jomolisious
@jomolisious 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like with the scope of Dark continent Togashi will either quit the series altogether or die before it finishes. I have 1% confidence this series will properly end
@mitchdouglas9844
@mitchdouglas9844 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ, he's got his hands on the art of war. That combined with his weird utilitarianism will make him unstoppable!
@dojee8993
@dojee8993 5 жыл бұрын
He made a whole miamafv episode about it
@blossomingbeelzebub
@blossomingbeelzebub 5 жыл бұрын
I was skeptical on the Dark Continent arc as well, especially 2 years ago. Lately though, the arc has been developing into something incredibley exciting. Its absolutely worth checking out. I think the main thing that is infuriating about the arc is that many chapters feel like endless exposition, and that can be hard to deal with especially when it takes such a long time for the next chapter to come out. But I'm positive Togashi has great things prepared, but has been busy setting things up for the past 4 years.
@Layra151301
@Layra151301 5 жыл бұрын
Well I feel like that's his things, he lovesssss holding your hand guiding you down this pathway that makes you think "of at the end there will be this and that." And then BAM! SIKE BITCH!! I haven't read the dark continent arc, but it sounds to me that's what he is doing (again, which i love!).
@Layra151301
@Layra151301 5 жыл бұрын
Also, wasn't his last chapter released November of last year?
@blossomingbeelzebub
@blossomingbeelzebub 5 жыл бұрын
@@Layra151301 yea it's been a while sadly...
@18skeltor
@18skeltor 5 жыл бұрын
I hope he gets well
@jojosoni6355
@jojosoni6355 4 жыл бұрын
@@18skeltor I don't think so. I think he has reached his limit and it can only go downhill. I have no hope for improvement. Otherwise I will always be disappointed. Let's hope that he takes the help of another artist. and finishes the story.
@Dantezgt
@Dantezgt 5 жыл бұрын
17:26 You missed the point. The Zoldycks already knew about Illumi's job. Chrollo knew that they knew. The Zoldycks were only acting for reputation sake. They even say that they were not serious. They even act somewhat amicable when Chrollo's phone rang.
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong. They were serious it's even stated that even when they have conflicting contracts they always take them seriously and it's an inter-family competition
@Mrbluefire95
@Mrbluefire95 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a pointless argument. Chrollo planned ahead for Hisoka and created the ability. He didn’t for the Zoldycks. Sometimes a character invents new abilities. It’s not that deep.
@bootyhunter2896
@bootyhunter2896 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mrbluefire95 Exactly.
@flickersense
@flickersense 5 жыл бұрын
they were very much serious. zeno even told silva to kill zeno together with chrollo if he had to. seems pretty serious.
@Mrbluefire95
@Mrbluefire95 5 жыл бұрын
Adam J. Harper That doesn’t make it messy. Stop reaching.
@isthisajojoreference
@isthisajojoreference 5 жыл бұрын
Nate: "My favorite arc, the Greed Island arc" Me: *Cries tears of joy Finally a man of true culture.
@sharp937
@sharp937 5 жыл бұрын
The yugioh island arc?
@flickersense
@flickersense 5 жыл бұрын
yorknew city arc if my favourite.
@alterp5108
@alterp5108 5 жыл бұрын
@Kvothe Windrunner Opinions bruh
@jensvide777
@jensvide777 5 жыл бұрын
@@flickersense Another truly cultured man, I see. Oh, how lucky we are, to be able to understand and enjoy Togashi's masterpiece so blissfully on a higher intellectual planet than other plebeians will ever know
@EnzoDraws
@EnzoDraws 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine reading HxH thinking it's about meeting Gon's dad.
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 5 жыл бұрын
Enzo Draws lol exactly he acts like that was the one whole goal of the series
@tutumazibuko2510
@tutumazibuko2510 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dell-ol6hb because it WAS the goal of the series.
@LeafShade
@LeafShade 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was about understanding what was so great about being a hunter that you'd abandon your own child.
@LeafShade
@LeafShade 5 жыл бұрын
@ It really wasn't though, meeting his dad was only a step on the path to understanding his dad, specifically his motivations and specifically what was so great about being a hunter that it was worth giving up everything including his own son, and if that was the story, there's no reason for it to end upon meeting his father.
@twenty-fifth420
@twenty-fifth420 5 жыл бұрын
I dont like HxH but it is clear from episode fucking one he wants to become a hunter first, friend second and meet his dad third Gon doesnt even remember he has a dad 80 percent of time. His nakama were also a better family then Ging ever was. It seems like a red herring blinded by bias just to complain tbh
@LDungeon
@LDungeon 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I also love Greed Island and it's main villain, Yoshikage Kira.
@veloce5491
@veloce5491 5 жыл бұрын
not every character who uses bomb is kira idiot. they are nothing alike.
@enumaelish9193
@enumaelish9193 5 жыл бұрын
Veloce I mean they are both blond men who pretend to be mild mannered but are secretly very vicious in combat. Both use explosive attacks that are triggered by contact that also have secondary characteristics meant to keep their identities secret. They also fight protagonists significantly younger than them and lose as a result of underestimating said protagonists' ability to put themselves in harm's way. Also literally everything is a Jojo reference. Fuckin' pleb.
@LDungeon
@LDungeon 5 жыл бұрын
@@veloce5491 Imagine getting this upset over a fucking joke
@veloce5491
@veloce5491 5 жыл бұрын
@@enumaelish9193all superficial comparisions. almost every shonen villain fights mcs that are younger than them. and imagine ironically using the word pleb lmao
@enumaelish9193
@enumaelish9193 5 жыл бұрын
Veloce I like how you ignored literally everything else, zeroed in on the only thing that was convenient for you and tried to activate big brain time on something you know was being used ironically. Take the stick out of your ass dude.
@ExcaliburVids
@ExcaliburVids 5 жыл бұрын
Hunter X Hunter isn't a series about consequences, it's a series about growth. When Gon loses his arm in the greed island arc he gets it back immediately, when he loses his arm vs pitou he gets it back when he gets healed, this is all mirrored when his arm is broken by Hanzo in the Hunter exam and he is told that the bone will grow back stronger. The consequences are not the takeaway of mistakes in this show, the growth of the character is.
@Александр-р9ч8в
@Александр-р9ч8в 5 жыл бұрын
The mangastream translation of the Expedition arc/Succession War arc is trash and makes everything more confusing. Read the Viz translation, it's a world of difference.
@brandonchandlerMGnO
@brandonchandlerMGnO 5 жыл бұрын
Mangastream definitely makes things more confusing, but there are times I definitely like mangastream better. And those times were definitely not in the Expedition Arc (before the Succesion War), I had no idea what was going on without reading it a second time.
@williamhenning4700
@williamhenning4700 5 жыл бұрын
3:10 - Yes, please. Hunter x Hunter is my favorite shounen and one of my favorite shows in general. Would love to hear your thoughts on an arc that, imo, goes unappreciated far too often. 13:45 - I agree that the Alluka stuff felt a bit cheap. I think what they should have done was have Gon not be able to regain his Nen in any capacity. It would've shown that there were legitimate consequences for Gon's actions. One of my few gripes with HxH. 15:48 - I didn't really see this as a problem personally. As you yourself pointed out, Gon had already demonstrated his willingness to do whatever was necessary ( on a personal level ) in pursuit of his goal even going so far as to allow his best friend Killua to put himself in harm's way in order to help him ( the dodge-ball game in the Greed Island arc ). And in the end it's only because of the friendships he'd cultivated that he was able to ultimately achieve his goal. I find that narratively satisfying considering Gon had actively put his quest to find Ging on hold in order to help his friends when they needed it ( jumping into danger in order to help Leorio, freeing Killua from his family and aiding Kurapika against the Phantom Troupe ) but didn't prevent them from sacrificing for him and putting themselves at risk in order to help him. Relationships are a give and take and the great thing about Gon is that he's both incredibly loyal to the point that he's willing to do these kind of things for his friends but not so conceited as to not accept help from them and allow them do the same for him. It's because he didn't let his quest to find Ging become some all consuming desire that blinded him to everything else around him ( potential friends and new experiences ) that he was able to see it through to the end and achieve a healthy and satisfactory result. Something that I feel is highlighted by Gon's quest to gain vengeance on Neferpitou for Kite's death which causes him to neglect his friends and his own health as a result of his single-minded pursuit of that goal. I think the lesson there is that, while focus and determination are admirable qualities, like everything, they're needed in moderation lest they end up becoming harmful to you and those around you ( addiction/obsession ).
@aarOuOn
@aarOuOn 5 жыл бұрын
The amount of names you mispronounced is kind of impressive tbh
@balleet210
@balleet210 5 жыл бұрын
It HAS to be on purpose.
@mylesmason8449
@mylesmason8449 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 5 жыл бұрын
Balleet probably isn’t tbh
@rukia01wubbaduck
@rukia01wubbaduck 5 жыл бұрын
All of the pronunciation choices make sense if you only ever read it
@IIDEADBIRDII
@IIDEADBIRDII 3 жыл бұрын
@@rukia01wubbaduck but when the japanese ova comes out with the proper pronunciation give you the answer??
@jchisaki3282
@jchisaki3282 5 жыл бұрын
Hunter x Hunter will always be one of the best anime out there, ready to throw hands over that lol.
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 5 жыл бұрын
Nippon or Madhouse version?
@ningunoZyZ
@ningunoZyZ 5 жыл бұрын
@@cyberninjazero5659 silly ninja, all anime are made in Nippon!
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 5 жыл бұрын
@@ningunoZyZ ...thank you dad
@TheWolfsBlackShadow
@TheWolfsBlackShadow 5 жыл бұрын
I can appreciate why you feel the way you do, but I hard disagree with you on your two points of contention with the writing. Alluka healing Gon, and Gon meeting Ging absolutely were not "bad/lazy writing". Normally I would agree with something like this being bad writing, but I actually love these two parts of Hunter a lot; like, this style of writing is the main appeal of the story for me. These are two moments that I have openly discussed with other fans as being great in my opinion. First: Gon meeting Ging. This moment sort of epitomizes the entire story. Hunter X Hunter is full of completely unexpected, hard left turns. Pretty much every arc has a moment where the rising climax is smacked to the ground. (with maybe the exception of your favorite: Greed Isalnd) The Hunter Exam ends before we can see a satisfying tournament, Zoldyck Family ends without Gon and friends rescuing Killua (because he just walks out himself), Heavens Arena doesn't really go anywhere in particular (and just ends with Gon finishing a completely unrelated goal from a previous arc) York New ends before Kurapika/ Hisoka can fight Chrollo, Ant arc ends with no one in particular defeating the ants AND the election arc ends with both an anti-climactic ending to the election itself and Gon's journey in finding his father. It's all completely consistent. I get it, it is certainly the most jarring of the examples, but if you don't like it, you just might not be a fan of this writing style. Again, this is a huge reason why Hunter X Hunter stands out for me: I love this about the story. EDIT: Also, considering the Ging is a looser absent father, I like the choice to, instead of having Gon find in in some climactic way, have them meet in a scenario (after he knowingly avoided seeing his son in the hospital) that completely catches Ging off guard, humiliates him and shows just how awful he is to much of the rest of the cast. (I like Ging as a character, but I love this moment too; it's one of my favorite in the entire story) Second: Alluka. Personally, I love the fact the Alluka is a complete anomaly. This comes off much more as an interesting plot point than it does lazy writing. And the fact that this was its own arc within the story, that had its own journey and struggles, was more than enough to make it feel justified for me. I can see where you are coming from with this one, (I do hate plot conveniences) but this really feels less "plot convenience" to me and more like an interesting plot point that introduces us to the mystique of the Dark Continent. In other stories I would probably agree with this being bad writing, but it doesn't feel out of line with what happens in Hunter. There are one or two other moments in the writing that I take problem with, but not this at all. In your opinion, what would have been a "good" way to have Gon healed? (if at all) Would another nen user (who didn't have such different nen-conditions) have been better? Would healing from any nen user go against a satisfying narrative? I understand disliking these moments, but calling them "lazy writing" isn't fair and is sort of ignorant to the rest of the story. Hunter X Hunter has never been a clean and direct narrative; that, for me, is the appeal. I wish more stories had this style of writing. Also, Greed Island video: YES
@HippoCrit
@HippoCrit 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't read hunter xhunter at all but based off of this video and your comment i think i have a possible solution. What if gon was healed but it had a drawback for kilua like it would with other people who get wishes But the difference is that the drawback is on a timer (lets say he gonna die in four months or something) But because its kiluas sister, she makes it possible for the timer to be permanently stopped but you have to do/find a specific thing in the dark continent. Then gon has a reason to go to the dark continent and continue to have a role in the story, he wants to save his friend who essentially sacrificed himself to save him. This idea is probably full of holes but all you need after fullfilling a characters main goal is to give them a new one.
@LeoSkyro
@LeoSkyro 5 жыл бұрын
@@HippoCrit >"What if gon was healed but it had a drawback for kilua like it would with other people who get wishes" that is addressed in the story. the magnitude of the wish, if Killua didnt just order Alluka, would cause tens of thousands of people to die (if Killua failed to meet Alluka's requests, which he of course would have) I'm not a fan of this scenario. not only does it introduce what is just a new gimmick to Alluka/Nanika's established "abilities", the time limit, but then ends the same way with Alluka bailing the guys out, just with more layers of bs, which only serve to further the involvement of muh MC in the story, which of course isnt needed, because Gon is a scrub compared to the top brass of the Association and has no place in the Dark Continent.
@danielli3288
@danielli3288 5 жыл бұрын
a way to heal gon would be to have to have some artifact or something in the dark continent that could heal anything. that way going to the dark continent would actually make sense
@LeoSkyro
@LeoSkyro 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielli3288 So, something like Ai, aka Nanika. What you desbribe would just be a hamfisted way to get the MC to go along to where the plot is, and the only reason one would want that is because they just cant let go of shonen tropes, where the MC just HAS to be the center of attention always, as opposed to story evolving organically in an interesting way that makes sense given what we know about events, places and characters
@danielli3288
@danielli3288 5 жыл бұрын
​@@LeoSkyro it would just be killua going to the dark continent along with everyone else who have there own reasons (stopping beyond, wanting to venture into further lands etc). also, its not like kurapika wasn't "hamfisted" into the dark continent arc either. the only reason he's there is because one of the princes has scarlet eyes. This is all to circumvent how broken and op nanika is, who currently has no limitations thanks to killua and fills the story with plot holes. like why couldn't killua just command nanika to teleport them to where gon is, instead of have a whole chase sequence with illumi.
@EntropyAcolyte
@EntropyAcolyte 5 жыл бұрын
every arc become better than the previous. the current arc arc is my favorite, with the change in focus, introduction of the best villains in the series, and the dangers and possibilities that lie within the new continent.
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@EntropyAcolyte
@EntropyAcolyte 5 жыл бұрын
@ after rewatching the anime /reading the manga, i enjoy the post-anime stuff more than the yorknew arc.
@puppetmaskerr
@puppetmaskerr 3 жыл бұрын
@@HxH2011DRA Hiatus is sad, at least we don't get the aot ending lol.
@wesdee5086
@wesdee5086 5 жыл бұрын
Your Kira figure is accurate because at the end of Diamond if Unbreakable, the dog chewed up Kira before he got sent to the hands hell.
@keen96
@keen96 5 жыл бұрын
I never understand these wHo ArE tHiS cHaRaCtErS!!?!? arguments. Did you love the main cast as much from the beginning? I bet you didn't care about them as much as you do now from the start, why is it so hard to give new characters the chance to be liked instead of immediately shutting them down just because they are not the main cast. I don't know about you but I can appreciate when things are done differently, and finishing the MC's arc and simply shifting the PoV is pretty darn unique. You don't have to like it just because it's unique but NOT liking it because it's different is even dumber IMO. I mean, the whole thesis of HxH, and Ging even spells it out for the slow ones in the back, it's about the journey, not the destination. Also regarding the walls of texts, that's on you for reading shitty scanlations. The official translations are way less text-heavy and have cleaner translations.
@THEM0J0MAN
@THEM0J0MAN 5 жыл бұрын
I pretty much instantly liked gon but even besides that, startjng a new thing I'm prepared to have to settle in and then when things are changed so radically you basically got a new thing you didn't ask for and aren't prepared for.
@Syfoll
@Syfoll 5 жыл бұрын
This
@keen96
@keen96 5 жыл бұрын
@@tutumazibuko2510 I LOVE Sengoku Youko for doing the exact same thing lmao nice try though
@kanarokan6060
@kanarokan6060 5 жыл бұрын
YES VERY ACCURATE , the world and the lore is sooo detailed and interesting that u can't just explore it with the mc and the side characters the fact the togashi went out of the box and put gon and killua aside and shifted the series to the dark continent with ging pariston and the princess shows that he's know what his doing
@ShinSennju
@ShinSennju 5 жыл бұрын
There's a difference when you organically meet characters vs getting air dropped with tons of new characters on a wall of text.
@Just.Kidding
@Just.Kidding 5 жыл бұрын
Recall that the Nanika plot and rule breaking was setup for Dark Continent, as Nanika is (/is possessed by) an entity from there. Also, the point of continuation is that Gon' s story has been told, and there are other stories worth telling. Who cares if it doesn't fit into muh typical normie narrative structure.
@Badalight
@Badalight 5 жыл бұрын
@ The reason is because he commands Nanika rather than wishing.
@themister.s-1st
@themister.s-1st 5 жыл бұрын
I gotta hear your full thoughts about that Greed Island arc!!! 😬😬🙏😁🙏🙏 Please upvote so he sees
@moonshell31
@moonshell31 5 жыл бұрын
^this
@Just.Kidding
@Just.Kidding 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck off. He's obviously going to do it either way.
@SttudDioPierrot
@SttudDioPierrot 5 жыл бұрын
The best part of the Greed Island arc in the manga is that baked Turkey at the end
@TheBilli96
@TheBilli96 5 жыл бұрын
Dude what the heck! I literally just finished the anime last week and continued he manga this week. I've become the biggest fan of hxh... and you decided posted this video at the perfect time!!
@stovespiegel
@stovespiegel 5 жыл бұрын
kite's name isn't ki-te, it's the english word kite (Spelled kaito in japanese)
@SomethingLog
@SomethingLog 5 жыл бұрын
nates weeb is showing through
@Александр-р9ч8в
@Александр-р9ч8в 5 жыл бұрын
@@SomethingLog It's the opposite, it just means he's not weeb enough to know that
@TyroKith
@TyroKith 5 жыл бұрын
He called the shit poop!
@Thumbdumpandthebumpchump
@Thumbdumpandthebumpchump 5 жыл бұрын
Shhhhhh. He's trying to be elitist.
@Dragonwaterclaw
@Dragonwaterclaw 5 жыл бұрын
@@Thumbdumpandthebumpchump But he kept mispronouncing the characters' names
@fadelsaad6623
@fadelsaad6623 5 жыл бұрын
man you really didn't understand shit after greed island arc maybe because it got more complex or something. I just couldn't continue the video after you went off on the CA and DC arcs.
@tutumazibuko2510
@tutumazibuko2510 5 жыл бұрын
You complain but you don't finish the video? Bruh
@krp8154
@krp8154 5 жыл бұрын
nate nooOOOOO that alluka thing is GENIUS beCAUSE he managed to squeeze out all the drama juice in the chimera ant arc and wagered his protagonists' life to subvert reader expectations and basically killed gon to give us drama- and then the alluka thing is so meta because, just like there was no way for the chimera ant to resolve without a sacrifice that the reader could never have expected, there is no way to bring gon back without undercutting the entire nen system so far. The alluka thing is the perfect bridge into the dark continent arc, because it shows that there is something far greater and far more insidious than nen could ever be. This way we get Gon back, but in return, we also understand the gravity of the new world if there exists power over there that can undercut everything we know so far, much like it does for the main characters.
@christopherrivera1673
@christopherrivera1673 4 жыл бұрын
What Nanika did for Gon was basically angel’s breath (Greed Island) and nen exorcism. Kurapika’s teacher in the flashback during the fight against Uvogin said not keeping your vow can cause you to lose all your nen which is exactly what ended up happening. The lack of consequences was just another anticlimactic result that occurred all throughout HxH along with Illumi being teleported away and Pariston’s resigning.
@elektrikid8463
@elektrikid8463 5 жыл бұрын
Nate, my dude. I think you're being a little narrowminded. I understand your priorities, but I kinda have a hard time agreeing with them. I think with one piece your points about 'stranding away from the originally planned' and 'ass pulls' are a bit more valuable, because one piece's journey is a bit more clear. In one piece you got not only a set goal, but a set path. Hunter x Hunter always had this aspect of having set goals, but not set paths. Kurapika hunts the troupe, but he has to find his way to them. Gonna hunts ging, but he has to seek clues of his status by himself. So in one piece it really can feel like Oda's path is being somewhat distorted, but in many of the cases it is for the sake of increasing the density of the plot and allowing more complex situations which can keep such long running series interesting. With HxH is the same, but while Oda's style tends to achieve perfection through simplicity togashi's whole thing is about complexity and detailism. The man is literally trying to beat the reccord of most named characters in a shonen jump arc (which is held by a Captain Tsubasa arc currently, I think). Besides that, I get that with these series (specially in HxH case cause of the reasons you cited) it can be hard to get long stretches of time without seeing the characters you love. But all characters are unknown before you get to spend time with them, even the ones you now love (that's a take from another comment that I agree with) so whats the matter with giving them the chance. Other example you gave about chrollo is specially interesting to me, because putting into perspective what he accomplishes with that addition to his moveset it's really clear that it does add up a LOT of depth to the whole fight. Giving it even more of a tactical edge on top of what you came to expect from the nen system itself. And the same goes for all the other examples of 'jojo-like powers', they dont rlly take these elements out they just are building on top of such foundations with more specific abilities. Compare it to hakki, In how it creates extra layers to the fightining in one piece, but hakki is both less coherent with the overall narrative that far (since hatsu manifestations are in the series since the introduction of nen, they really just are changing into crazier abilities because togashi finds these more interesting as they allow for more complex scenarios). In the case of Alluka's introduction it is thematically coherent (there is a thematic reason for killua's exception, as you are aware of I'm sure, and on top of that it gives killua another goal to persue now that his traveling with gon is over) though somewhat plot-convenient (serves as a way to bring gon back) it is, I think, misguided to say it undermines the nen-system so far (since it is a hint of stuff beyond nen and even clear comprehension which are things that get more explored in the dark continent expedition and succession war arcs (also with nen beasts and nen post-mortem, which is a foreshadowed concept) and also has a lot of nuance to it and deepens the zoldyck family's dynamic) and I dont think it literally undercuts God's effort. First of all there is that friendship thing you mentioned and then again gon hasnt rlly found fulfillment in meeting ging like that. The talk they have over the world tree is literally about finding more important things on the way to your destination. Gon has met ging, they talked and he went home, now unable to use nen he is deprived of his real treasure. The adventures he was in. He still hasnt even in one with all the crew, he lost every treasure he discovered along the way in not being able to find discover any new ones. Aside from that this is rlly felt in his absence as a main character. Now Ging is after Don Freecs in the Dark Continent, its hunter x hunter all over again. And a lot of United stuff remains, in generall. Not only kurapika. One piece is a story about the world those characters inhabit and how they change it. Hunter x Hunter is more about the characters who live in a 'world' where the rules constantly change. You dont have to like the direction the series took, but I think some of your takes are at least slightly unreasonable. Looking foward to that Greed Island vid, tho. Love your shit, bruh. Stay lit.
@possssy9632
@possssy9632 4 жыл бұрын
love the essay
@musclehead2680
@musclehead2680 4 жыл бұрын
i ain't reading all that
@elektrikid8463
@elektrikid8463 4 жыл бұрын
@@musclehead2680 LMAO Yea, I did write a looong one that time.
@elektrikid8463
@elektrikid8463 4 жыл бұрын
@Suleymen Amanzholtegi you mean nate or that muscle head guy? Neither ever will probably lmao
@elektrikid8463
@elektrikid8463 4 жыл бұрын
@Suleymen Amanzholtegi LMAO YES, HE HAS. But yea, Nate wont, but you did. And some other people too. So thats fine by my metric. Usually only my sister is around to hear my musings on shounen action series lol
@coolorstool2351
@coolorstool2351 5 жыл бұрын
I dunno Bestie Boy you need galaxy brain level to truly understand the godlike Succession War arc
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 5 жыл бұрын
This but unironically to an extent XD
@sonnycooper-icarus8571
@sonnycooper-icarus8571 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that BGE gets the appeal of HxH over other shounen manga. Not blaming him or anything, just an observation.
@thegreatcheesedemon
@thegreatcheesedemon 5 жыл бұрын
Is it the subversion argument? Cuz I think he reads too much Shonen to find one subversive.
@sonnycooper-icarus8571
@sonnycooper-icarus8571 5 жыл бұрын
Adam J. Harper What does this even mean? He made an entire video sharing his thoughts about it, so I made the observation. What were you observing about me to determine that I didn’t get the appeal of it?
@enumaelish9193
@enumaelish9193 5 жыл бұрын
Adam J. Harper He wasn't talking nonsense though. You on the other hand....
@tutumazibuko2510
@tutumazibuko2510 5 жыл бұрын
@Adam J. Harper asking HxH fans to stop being pretentious assholes is like asking for world peace, it's never gonna happen lol.
@ASUMAREMAN
@ASUMAREMAN 5 жыл бұрын
@@sonnycooper-icarus8571 nlgga, Adam is calling you out for talking out of your arse. What do you mean with: "he doesn't the appeal of HxH" ? Does it mean that YOU do get it, and therefore, YOU are more qualified to give an observation than BGE or other people with similar opinions do? Fvck out of here with your disingnous bs
@williamhenning4700
@williamhenning4700 5 жыл бұрын
BGE you’ve gotta watch the 2011 anime. It’s one of my favorite shows let alone anime of all time. The animation is incredibly fluid and looks better than most stuff that comes out today and the music really enhances certain scenes. I know that you're mostly a manga reader from that video you made a while back which is why I emphasized the animation and music specifically. Highly recommended.
@env4n3
@env4n3 5 жыл бұрын
laziest guy ever cant keep up with reading 1 chapter a year to make a valid argument
@BrutalMelee
@BrutalMelee 5 жыл бұрын
*10
@LeoSkyro
@LeoSkyro 5 жыл бұрын
0 chapters a year, as of this last week :'(
@BrutalMelee
@BrutalMelee 5 жыл бұрын
@@LeoSkyro Yeah, last chapter was in november of 2018.
@DEATHxTHExKIDx1
@DEATHxTHExKIDx1 5 жыл бұрын
He was doing pretty well. And that being 10chapters a year. But nothing for 2019 so far
@LeafShade
@LeafShade 5 жыл бұрын
Almost like decreased momentum resulted in coming to a halt, I wonder what could cause that.
@Dantezgt
@Dantezgt 5 жыл бұрын
13:19 You're wrong. Applying conditions is a good way to boost your power, there's no denying it. But 1- It isn't the only way 2- In some cases aren't even necessary. You're too caught up on "the cost of power" thing.
@Hemroyd_Skankins
@Hemroyd_Skankins 5 жыл бұрын
@Adam J. Harper Aside from the fact that Meruem and Kurapika are both infinitely more complex than any character Araki has ever written, and the fact that Hunter x Hunter is way better paced than any of the JoJo parts, and the fact that Part 3 is boring af, and the fact that JoJo is full of egregious plotholes whereas the only major plothole in Hunter x Hunter is that Killua somehow knew about Zeno's Dragon Dive, and the fact that Stands make no fucking sense and just do whatever Araki wants them to do; then yeah, sure, the power system is the only thing that pushes Hunter x Hunter to the top.
@Hemroyd_Skankins
@Hemroyd_Skankins 5 жыл бұрын
@Adam J. Harper You literally said that "the cost of power was the ONLY thing" that elevated HxH above JoJo. Which is retarded.Nothing fallacious about my wall of text.
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 5 жыл бұрын
*SUMMONING JUSTU ACTIVATES* You rang? Firstly let me say ME WANT GREED ISLAND DISCUSSION! secondly that's perfectly understandable that you've lost interest, knowing your taste I don't blame you at all, and there's no objectively correct way to read or enjoy the series. That Being Said I think the main difference between the side who eats everything this series puts out on principle and everyone else that ToGODshi obstiensively dragged along his madlad ride with his masterclass writing comes down to that most famous quote from the story- you should enjoy the little details to the fullest because that's where you'll find the things more important than what you want. For example it's just as you said I could explain the myriad of reasons why Nanika doesn't break the power system, and that's without even getting into theories about the nature of nen we might not even be aware of that I find plausible, but nothing I say is gonna make it feel less like an asspull. That's because the feeling that something is an asspull comes from a combination of feeling an expectation was not meet & that established logic was not followed, and these feelings feed into one another. If what you were looking for was a traditional story of slowly working up to the goal of the main character then you'll be disappointed as that was abandoned. I cared enough about the new themes that had taken ToGODshi's interest at that point which he decided to focus on that it didn't matter to me. In fact I found the exploration of politics, Buddhist ethics, gender, obsession and family dynamics much more interesting. But again that's just me, and it's a niche thing. And I feel like as ToGODshi continues to do whatever the fuck he wants while still making gangbusters this is going to be a growing trend of him alienating the nonhardcore. Not to make it sound like I'm perfectly fine with everyone else getting stiffed cause I've got mine but there was a panel where a character listed off a bunch of topics at random that he was disappoint some girls weren't into and I feel that was a pretty meta statement in a way and I was like "I SPECIFICALLY am interested in ALL those things stop spying on me" XD. Anyhow long story short Hunter x Hunter isn't about the plot hence the loose title when compared to other shounen that usually has the MC's name or a very specific occupation/power/non-general plot in it. It's often sold as an epic adventure, and it is in many ways, but in reality it's more of an urban fantasy about whatever the authors interested in at the time, hence why each arc is so distinct. I feel after yu yu hakusho ended with him in such bad health he decided "you know what next time I'm JUST gonna write like any arc could be the last one & enjoy myself". It just so happens that he's an EXTREMELY good writer so whatever he wants is good and all flows together because he's used to always thinking in terms of manga! I guess what I'm saying is my reading of the series is one where obsessing over ever single detail with enthusiasm is in itself the point and that the actual story is in a way incidental. Not sure how satisfying "it's about the journey man~" and "death of the author is bs" are but hey I did MY best even if it wasn't THE BEST. I just know I got quickly attracted to the new characters, the new drama, the new themes, and if I had to put it down to something in particular it'd be that I've become attacted to how he writes rather than what he writes about, tho again I'm not DISINTERESTED in the topics like you are so there is that. Hope you have a swell day and hopefully you'll chat more about hxh soon!
@dojee8993
@dojee8993 5 жыл бұрын
Very well spoken. I find it hilarious that Nate called you out on that.
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 5 жыл бұрын
@@dojee8993 Thanks
@Adenybaloi
@Adenybaloi 5 жыл бұрын
While I agree with Nate, I'm really glad you responded with your take on the matter. The world wouldn't make sense if a video on HxH came along discussing the downfall of the series without the Dick-riding Association responding to it.
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 5 жыл бұрын
@@Adenybaloi lol yeah I suppose so~
@EatDIrt-fm3xn
@EatDIrt-fm3xn 5 жыл бұрын
Damn I feel stupid for not getting the title of Hunter X Hunter
@arigat-o9670
@arigat-o9670 5 жыл бұрын
@Eat D. Irt Agreed.
@nawll11
@nawll11 5 жыл бұрын
Well Togashi denied that was the meaning of the title so...
@ktwagie
@ktwagie 5 жыл бұрын
@@nawll11 Gon × Killua
@joshpoohtwo
@joshpoohtwo 5 жыл бұрын
Best Guy Ever not watching Hunter x Hunter anime is blasphemy I tell you, blasphemy!!!
@UnhappyPensFan
@UnhappyPensFan 5 жыл бұрын
Greed Island finale was sending him to Kite over Ging because of Gon bringing Killua but from there, the Chimera Ant arc is effectively its own thing as the search for his dad is placed on the backburner. Is this not a problem you had with the narrative? The point is that Gon's goal was the foundation to build the world of Hunter upon. This latest manga arc is reaping the rewards of that part having been developed. It didn't need to be tied down to the starting narrative and it's better off not being restricted in that way. There is a lotttt culminating into this arc and it's ambitious to leave KIllua and Gon behind but the series does not rely on them as much as others would, if you ask me. Kurapika is just as much a main character as the other 2. And yeah, sure, the Alluka thing is annoying but I think you had a couple inaccuracies there. Not to mention it was a good way to lead into the calamities of the next arc. Mostly fine criticisms but I don't think I see them as being as significant as you might. And yes, I'm a dickrider lol
@sahilpandya3165
@sahilpandya3165 5 жыл бұрын
Just something I wanted to add was that gon's first meeting with ging being anticlimactic was done because togashi wanted to emphasize the point of "its the journey that matters" as ging says(roughly), so the friends gon made along with the things he learned are more valuable than the end goal of meeting ging.
@digitsdigitsdigits808
@digitsdigitsdigits808 5 жыл бұрын
This actually, one of Togashi's main shticks is using the already-established world-building, cast of characters, and investment in the overall journey to set up stories that can really only be effectively told in the context of a long-running shonen arc. The succession war is no different
@hrafnknutsson2859
@hrafnknutsson2859 5 жыл бұрын
Chrollo's bookmark was created in preparation for his fight with Hisoka it's not like he made it on the spot during the fight like you said
@jessiivie8407
@jessiivie8407 5 жыл бұрын
glad to finally find another intellectual™ that knows that greed island is ichiban
@Xozzen
@Xozzen 5 жыл бұрын
The dark continent arc or succession war is very difficult to get into, I had to restart it several times, but when I finally managed to dive in, I got hooked hard. It gets better. I understand if you don't want to go through that, but I still like the manga now. The insane hiatus makes it even more difficult to stay on top of it though. And yes, the phantom troupe and other characters you might know do come back. And is it really so bad to introduce new characters? I like the new characters, maybe you will too, once they started doing shit.
@elijahjarobi
@elijahjarobi 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the dark continent because all of hxh is more adventure focused than goal focus. Gon and kill would always get side tracked. The election arc is a good stopping point, but now the 4 mcs can do anything they want now and go on other adventures.
@PokemonJack333
@PokemonJack333 5 жыл бұрын
Neferpitou is my wife
@bootyhunter2896
@bootyhunter2896 5 жыл бұрын
Easily best girl.
@bt636
@bt636 5 жыл бұрын
Blew my mind with the HxH title explanation, somehow all these years I never made that connection. Completely agree with the wishes thing but as an anime only it didn't bother me as much. Great to see you coming back with some excellent content brother, keep up the good work.
@reroxas
@reroxas 5 жыл бұрын
nearly pissed myself when this popped up in my notifications DAMN that being said, i'm honestly so happy you chose to give your own Hot Takes on the series! im an anime watcher myself, and it's been my favorite series since i watched it years ago. would love so much if you continued to make vids about your opinions on it!!
@pbtenchi
@pbtenchi 5 жыл бұрын
Alluka isn’t a normal nen user per say. The theory is Zygg Zoldyck brought back an Ai from the Dark continent, which is a symbiotic entity more powerful the the Chimera Ant King.
@jameswashere187
@jameswashere187 5 жыл бұрын
11:53 ah yes my favorite Ant, the Chimera Arc
@kanarokan6060
@kanarokan6060 5 жыл бұрын
i kinda see where u coming from BUT i have to disagree with u especially about the latest arc in hunter hunter. Togashi built a world so detailed and so rich that it can on its own without the main character driving the plot forward , that's one of the many praises hunter hunter gets the WORLD . People can't just ask the author to build a world so detailed and rich with lore and just complain when the author or mangaka don't put the mc in every arc to drive the narrative .
@herrkrabbe148
@herrkrabbe148 5 жыл бұрын
8:23 the thing is that, while gon and killua did their things, kurapika managed to collect all of the eye balls. The exceptions are the pars that the 4th prince has, therefore he must go to the dark continent to get the last ones edit: then you just said it...
@carlosamores910
@carlosamores910 5 жыл бұрын
This is barely a Shonen so I don’t get the comparisons
@Drawingsagespaz
@Drawingsagespaz 5 жыл бұрын
It does not change the fact that it's still Shonen.
@carlosamores910
@carlosamores910 5 жыл бұрын
lawrence murray yeah it is but it’s also drastically different than the other popular shonen. It’s not a main character driven power fantasy like Dragonball, Naruto or Bleach. Gon isn’t crazy overpowered and wins every fight
@carlosamores910
@carlosamores910 5 жыл бұрын
Random Person it is a shonen I admit that, but togashi’s arc structure is completely different than other shonen manga. In the yorknew city arc he completely set the main characters aside and focused on the phantom troupe and kurapika. The chimera ant arc is a fantastic arc expressing the humanization of meruem as he played with komugi and the dehumanization of gon as he turned into a monster to kill pitou. The way he shifts the tone drastically from arc to arc is unlike most shonen and now (manga spoilers) he’s put aside his shonen main characters of gon and killua and is focusing on a political war on the way to the dark continent using all of the side characters in the story and no shonen has ever done that. The only thing i’m trying to argue is that Hunter x Hunter is a shonen anime/manga but i don’t personally categorize it together with dragonball, naruto, mha, bleach or one piece.
@carlosamores910
@carlosamores910 5 жыл бұрын
Random Person name a shonen that would be able to continue releasing chapters after completely setting the 2 main characters aside and please name me a shonen that has its own “no other shonen has done it” moment as unique as getting rid of the main characters. I just feel like from gon’s perspective in the story it’s more of a shonen but the story is no longer being told through the eyes of gon. Togashi is done telling gon’s story and now he has the world of hunter which he has created and is doing something brand new and it’s great. naruto did boruto but that’s not exciting. dragonball super :/. bleach is just over along with ichigo and one piece is still going for eternity. Who knows if gon and killua will come back in the story i hope they do.
@carlosamores910
@carlosamores910 5 жыл бұрын
Random Person okay obviously Jojo is an extremely influential anime/manga but I haven’t watched it so I didn’t think of it when writing my comment. So what if naruto, Luffy, Ichigo or Goku lost their powers and got put to the side as they continued the story with other characters in the world. They would never do that because their shonen main character is the selling point. Hunter x Hunter is a redefining shonen that is extremely influential to the shonen we have today. I simply can’t put it with the other shonen I’ve watched but that’s just my opinion. It has a completely different feel than all the other shonen I’ve watched. ^btw sorry for not watching jojo’s I hope I don’t get attacked
@allenwalker4703
@allenwalker4703 5 жыл бұрын
Alluka doesn't use Nen i think, she's a being from the Dark Continent, she's just born with absurd powers like Meruem.
@LeafShade
@LeafShade 5 жыл бұрын
All I could think about for most of this video is how One Piece is CLEARLY setting up to continue on past the point where the One Piece is found, with Luffy achieving what Gol D. could not, not just attaining that which he once did but surpassing him.
@neoliberal_af
@neoliberal_af 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@schweinehund3497
@schweinehund3497 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, also am ur 100.000th subscriber apparently, congratz dude
@aimentetbirt1363
@aimentetbirt1363 4 жыл бұрын
11:53 .. "Chimera arc ant" You got a point man. I enjoyed the dark continent arc, but I now realized that I didn't enjoy it as much as I enjoyed everything before.
@PaperPatriot
@PaperPatriot 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with your cirticism at the end of the Election arc, but the same thing happend at the end of the 'perfec't best arc ever' Greed Island? why doesn't that bother you?
@balleet210
@balleet210 5 жыл бұрын
The part after the Greed Island arc where Gon and Killua visit Gon's home after everything is finished is so satisfying and comforting. It's that feeling of taking a really long trip just to pick a small item up and, after getting back home after days, opening it up to see what's inside.
@LeoSkyro
@LeoSkyro 5 жыл бұрын
Ging to Gon (and the audience): "It's not about the destination, it's the journey and the connections you make along the way" NateWorstMan: "Gon has reached his destination, story is over" Also Togashi is a hack who needs to either release a chapter or die already for fuck sake it's been more than a year since the last one. And it's such a shame since the DC arc is so good, despite the info dumps. PS: definitely watch the anime Nate, it's one of the few cases where it's not only better than the manga in every single way (apart from the time investment), but also fucking fantastic on its own. Imo the best shonen anime out there.
@KevinGarcia-kz8ru
@KevinGarcia-kz8ru 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t mind your “boring” takes on the beginning of the manga. Or your takes on the greed island arc. I always enjoy and for the most part agree with your takes on nearly anything anime/manga related
@GiovaniPablo1
@GiovaniPablo1 5 жыл бұрын
Hunterxhunter has four genuine main characters and the dark continent arc so is really good shit
@disneyandweeb591
@disneyandweeb591 5 жыл бұрын
11:54 Chimera arc ant
@flynnfittz
@flynnfittz 5 жыл бұрын
The cost was Gon losing his ability to use nem...
@williamhenning4700
@williamhenning4700 5 жыл бұрын
But it seems like that’s only a temporary thing so I can understand why it kind of robs the series of stakes to a certain extent.
@LeoSkyro
@LeoSkyro 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamhenning4700 "But it seems" literally everything in the manga says otherwise. if the source of that "seems" is just """""genre savyness"""" then sure bud
@XxjeffersonDkidxX
@XxjeffersonDkidxX 5 жыл бұрын
I bet that in a few chapters he will get his nem Power back. But if gon stays powerless to the end of the manga than it's kino.
@LeoSkyro
@LeoSkyro 5 жыл бұрын
@@XxjeffersonDkidxX well, that's a prediction that is based on nothing that is in the story, but see you in 10 years when a new volume will be out and maybe we'll find out
@williamhenning4700
@williamhenning4700 5 жыл бұрын
@@LeoSkyro I mean, didn't Ging or somebody say it would come back?
@brandonchandlerMGnO
@brandonchandlerMGnO 5 жыл бұрын
I totally understand if you don't like where the story's going, but I love all of these character dumps and thought-out chaos that is the Succession Arc, so I couldn't be happier. Honestly, Gon and Killua would get in the way of all the new characters, so I'm fine without for a while. Also, maybe I didn't feel so weird about the story shift since it was already a shift from anime to manga.
@waltefg5867
@waltefg5867 5 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for a HxH video tbh, but it was not at all what I expected, lol. The circumstances that helped Gon meet his father was because all the things he accomplished and worked for since chapter one until his fight with Pitou. Regarding nen and fights you gotta appreciate the complexity of the flights within the nen system that are only possible because characters when pass the basic system of ten/Ren/ko/etc they practice at greed island. Now Togashi does a lot of set up here and there with very late pay offs, for example the greed island one you mentioned with the card system, so I would like to wait a bit regarding Nanika's one to speculate but there's already a connection with her and the dark continent, since it's already revealed that Nanika comes from there (where's it's called Ai) The walls of text do actually serve a narrative purpose and have been building up the tension greatly, I would urge you to catch up to the manga is worth it, the new more abstract concepts of nen present here, and Kurapika's ark and all the multiple plot lines inside the boat that will eventually clash is so god damn good. Great video btw, as always very enjoyable! And greed island video would be amazing! Of: sorry for crappie editing and grammar posting from my phone.
@DeeJuusan
@DeeJuusan 5 жыл бұрын
I never thought Alluka's power is Nen related coz it's coming from Nanika and her dark origins?
@env4n3
@env4n3 5 жыл бұрын
17:07 " that fight between chrollo and lucifer that was pretty amazing " ..... lol sorry cant help point this one out
@OggerFN
@OggerFN 5 жыл бұрын
I love the succession war. I think I might like it more than any other previous arc.
@el-vm9cr
@el-vm9cr 3 жыл бұрын
Pov: your uncle started talking at the dinner table and you’d rather talk to him than your old fart of a dad who’s only invested in football
@ReddTurtl
@ReddTurtl 5 жыл бұрын
Gon still can't use nen ever again, the initial consequence is still there. His body being fucked up was due to overusing it. I do have an issue with Alluka's existence, but not as much with this in consideration. I'm also pretty sure, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Alluka was stated to be from the Dark Continent, and her power may not be nen? Which kinda ties back into that narrative plot point. Besides, the Killua and Alluka stuff was pretty wholesome and emotional, despite my issues with Alluka conceptually.
@BlackMita
@BlackMita 5 жыл бұрын
The manga seems to be hinting more and more that... (possible spoilers ahead) ... since some Zoldycks survived Calamities in the Dark Continent, they have some of those Calamities' power, either through nen contracts (like the princes have to their beasts) or early exposure to them indirectly in their training as assassins. Most obvious example being the relationship between Nanika and "Ai"... but I also suspect there could be more (eg: Maha and "Pap", possibly even Killua and "Hellbell" given his ability to go into killer mode, immunize poison, and his attack style against that lady chimera ant with the medical mask)
@mayasimunek
@mayasimunek 5 жыл бұрын
Super excited to see this in my inbox! Can’t believe you haven’t seen at least the 2011 adaptation though
@ChryI
@ChryI 5 жыл бұрын
The fight between Chrollo and Lucifer? Holy shit, he fought a Fallen Angel?
@MetroAndroid
@MetroAndroid 5 жыл бұрын
Yorknew City's my favorite arc. Kurapika's my favorite character (one of my favorite male characters in all of anime). I was disappointed that we didn't get to see him much for like... 70 episodes or something, so the idea of his story actually being continued sounds awesome to me as someone who just wrapped up the anime and hasn't gotten to the manga yet.
@killuazoldyk7995
@killuazoldyk7995 5 жыл бұрын
Kurapika is my only reason to read this story i don't care about any other char . I don't get why people are so invested in gon's story
@antfinn5003
@antfinn5003 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, I like your shirt.... Would you ever do an analysis on FLCL? I would love to hear your take on my favorite work of art
@tetzujin
@tetzujin 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone appreciate Greed Island as much as I do. I'm not the biggest HxH fan but damn Greed Island was a thrilling arc.
@nelsonwang2753
@nelsonwang2753 5 жыл бұрын
Y’already know he doesn’t watch the anime by the way he pronounces kite “Keetay”
@mafeuk
@mafeuk 5 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love a Greed Island video on the near future. My favorite arc is the Yorknew arc and I really like how it connects perfectly with the Heaven's arena and Greed Island arcs with such a good flow. I also like the Chimera arc but I think it loses steam on the halfway point (later it starts kicking ass again) and it's pretty irregular. I agree with you that the current arc is kinda uninteresting. I'm only sticking because Kurapika is favorite character but there's too much exposition and Togashi is constantly introducing more and more new characters that I don't care at all. Hope it pays off.
@el-vm9cr
@el-vm9cr 3 жыл бұрын
16:14 what are these chapter covers..?
@pbtenchi
@pbtenchi 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been enjoying the succession war. I like when series take a break from their main protagonists. The succession war still has Hunter x Hunter’s psychological brilliance.
@nexokor6091
@nexokor6091 5 жыл бұрын
11:53 "Chimera Arc Ant" nearly gave me a fucking stroke
@TheLouis6555
@TheLouis6555 3 жыл бұрын
Alluka isn't using Nen bro. It's a mysterious other power. That's why she's so important/special.
@6eyesofheaven
@6eyesofheaven 5 жыл бұрын
The cost for Gon using the big mega ultra nen thing at the end of chimera ant was him losing nen forever...
@alterp5108
@alterp5108 5 жыл бұрын
For the anime, the Greed Island arc is my 2nd favorite behind Chimera Ant arc. Surprising that you like enjoyed it so much. Also, I love Alluka and the relationship between her and Killua strengthens the reason as to why I think Killua's use of her is fair imo.
@ThatJPGamer
@ThatJPGamer 5 жыл бұрын
Alluka doesn’t use nen tho, she’s from the dark continent. So why should her powers have the same nen rules?
@8bitmagic
@8bitmagic 5 жыл бұрын
That's the coolest part about Alluka is she is somewhat a vehicle to the bigger story. DC tease.
@Javetts
@Javetts 5 жыл бұрын
you're right on the alluka part, but I disagree on the "asspull" bookmark. He was going around trying to put together a 100% winning strategy against hisoka. While doing so, he gained an ability that requires both hands to be free. For this reason he decided to make a new hatsu with what he describes as "a new host of bothersome rules" in order to use that two hand hatsu. If that ability's requirements weren't directly counter to his own, he never would of made the bookmark. I'd also like you to look at the current arc from afar. Kurapika is trapped with someone with all the remaining kurta eyes, the spider is on board and absolutely killable and he is protecting a baby. I really feel that this arc will be the battle for Kurapika's soul. And I can absolutely see Kurapika dying in this arc, I'm very engaged.
@ratska96
@ratska96 5 жыл бұрын
You told us to post walls of text, and so I will. I compleatly disagree on you in regards to aluka/nanika. There is absolutely a price to pay but nanika's just pushing of the cost. In nanika's wish granting system someone has to pay the price for the benefit the previous person received but it's shown than nanika has pretence for killua. Earlier in the chapter, despite the fact that killua was supposed to get harsh requests he gets off easy but aluka later asks a pretty high demand of the zoldic body guard lady compared to the wish killua had just asked, this was to show that nanika pushed off the punishment killua was supposed to receive to someone else. Nanika is doing the same thing with gon, there is still a price that needs to be paid, nanika is just pushing off who pays it. Eventually it'll need to be paid. Honestly I just don't think you align with one of the core appeals of the show. Personally I love this show for its detached clinical look at everything. The reason gon meets his dad like that is because it makes sense for that to happen given the circumstances. It's not about what the characters deserve, that's irrelevant, that's always been irrelevant. The greatness of hunter x hunter (to me at least) is that it treats its characters as cogs in the machine that is the world just like anything else. That's part of the reason greed island is my least favorite arc, because it played like a typical shonen, when this story has so much more to offer than a typical shonen does.
@CreationsFlare
@CreationsFlare 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was slipped in that she can essentially delay and pass off the punishment onto the next person provided she isn't holding one already. Which she wasn't when she used her ability on Gon. I still kinda feel like that condition is a little cheap for a gift-giver, but all it really means is the next person who asks a wish from Alluka is going to get nuked. Which shouldn't happen because Killua freed Alluka from captivity so....yeah. It's not like I don't get why he'd be pissed, but it is a reason.
@ratska96
@ratska96 5 жыл бұрын
@@CreationsFlare I'll also agree that feeling that it may be a cheap narrative tool is a reasonable reaction. However he also seemed to be claiming that it did not obey the previously established rules of nen and how tight the mechanics had been till that point and I was just attempting to show that it is consistent and in line with the nature of nen till this point
@loveshorn7423
@loveshorn7423 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like greed island is underrated so a vid in the works sounds good to me! -at least it will be new HxH content amiright lads? haha-
@superdriver
@superdriver 5 жыл бұрын
actually great video, can't wait for the greed island wiagw
@vaderbuckeye36
@vaderbuckeye36 5 жыл бұрын
I liked the chimera ant arch because of the almost lovecraftian sense of dread that I felt. It was the only time where I was genuinely questioning how a shounen main character could ever possibly come out on top, because he really couldn't, and the results of that is what makes me agree thinking that nanika made Gon's decision feel cheapened. Edit* spelling
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 5 жыл бұрын
Rex Umbra sure but it was really the only way Gon could’ve been healed, and Alkuka’s introduction fleshes out the world more and serves as a good connection to the Dark Continent.
@pikaboi4408
@pikaboi4408 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the current arc :) But i can see where people are coming from when they say that they've lost interest. The latest arc has many new characters that i really like (MA BOI BILL, Terrorsandwich and theta) In fact there are so many characters i like in this arc, that i dont find it boring/tireing at all. As for gon and killua: Thanks to gon, killua finally found a purpose in his life. I guess you can kinda already theorize how killua will tie into the Dark continent, if at all. How gon will come back in to the story i dont know, but im sure once he figures out his next step in life we can get a better picture of his narrative potential. Im sure our boys will all reunite eventually. HxH fans need the fattest amount of patience they can get. This is like the longest comment ive ever written xD
@xavmanisdabestest
@xavmanisdabestest 3 жыл бұрын
Greed island is legit my favourite hxh arc glad I'm not the only one
@TheLouis6555
@TheLouis6555 3 жыл бұрын
The fight between Chrollo and Lucifer was almost as good as the fight between Roronoa and Zoro.
@crazysicko47
@crazysicko47 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see your argument for Greed Island. I personally thought the pacing was awful and the payoff was underwhelming.
@Badalight
@Badalight 5 жыл бұрын
Gon WAS saved from Alluka, but he still lost his nen. That's a consequence.
@12370david
@12370david 5 жыл бұрын
You should really watch the 2011 anime, it improves upon the manga in some pretty incredible ways.
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 5 жыл бұрын
99 adapted it better up until Greed Island (when it lost its director staff)
@timtale2404
@timtale2404 5 жыл бұрын
@@cyberninjazero5659 99 is overrated asf
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 5 жыл бұрын
@@timtale2404 no u
@timtale2404
@timtale2404 5 жыл бұрын
@@cyberninjazero5659 well fuck good point
@josephreeves103
@josephreeves103 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m gonna have to disagree there. The manga captures the tone in the artwork and little details a lot better. Greed island is a perfect example not explaining hardly anything with the card game in the anime.
@GamersInHellOnYt
@GamersInHellOnYt 5 жыл бұрын
There's no flaw in the system, Alluka doesn't use Nen. Alluka was a dark world thing possessing a host (implied near the end of the world tree chapter). So despite it being a deus machina, it technically doesn't damage the set nen rules...
@ARandomGuy24
@ARandomGuy24 5 жыл бұрын
It damages the the tension of the show. It hypes up the consequences of breaking the rules of nen use. You'll f*cking die, or you'll be crippled for life, you'll never recover. All this kind of stuff is telling us how bad it is. Next time they hype up they consequences of some technique it's like ehh, whatever Killua can fix this up lcikity split. Somebody gets their leg taken off and their career as a hunter is over and have no idea about what do with their life? Instead of dealing with drama and real stuff that people have to face when their purpose in life is taken away just get Killua to fix it up. It's hard to take any consequences seriously when the writer does that kinda stuff.
@tygamike
@tygamike 5 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that the series shifting from Gon is fine. Gon and Killua have completed their arcs (Gon found Ging and we saw his huge potential everyone talks about), Killua found something worth living for outside of assassination and made friends (Gon and Alluka). The Dark Continent arc is likely going to conclude Kurapika's arc by having him finally finish collecting the Kurta eyes and likely fight the last of the Spiders as well as or alongside Hisoka. Leorio might have an arc too but honestly he never had much direction. From the very beginning the series hasn't been afraid to say that Gon isn't that big of a deal in the world he's in, and that just carries on in a meta way in that the story continues with everyone else even after Gon becomes irrelevant.
@moonshell31
@moonshell31 5 жыл бұрын
I agree that Alluka is kinda bs, however it was the main factor of intrigue between the previous events and the dark continent arc, alluka supposedly being from the dark continent.
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