BETA vs KTM | Which is better for Enduro ?

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The Dirtbike Rider

The Dirtbike Rider

Жыл бұрын

Both the KTM 300 and the beta 300 are top-performing enduro bikes and are known for their off-road capabilities. However, there are some key differences between the two that riders should be aware of before making a decision on which one to purchase. The KTM 300 is known for its agility, lightweight design and quick handling, making it a great option for more experienced riders. On the other hand, the beta 300 is known for its stability, smooth power delivery, and comfortable riding position, making it a great option for riders who are less experienced.
It's important to note that both bikes have their own pros and cons, and the ultimate choice between the two will depend on your personal preferences and needs as a rider. Whether you're a seasoned enduro rider looking for a high-performance machine, or a beginner who is looking for a more comfortable and stable ride, both the KTM 300 and the beta 300 are worth considering.
I am not one of those people who just talk, and behind that talk there is no experience or knowledge. I would like to start with the suspension first because I think it is a very important thing on enduro bikes and everything starts from that. If you have bad suspension or poorly adjusted your driving will be difficult for you and you will be tired a lot. With a good suspension it is much easier to ride, and now which motorcycle has a better suspension beta or KTM, I will tell you soon.
Regarding the front forks, I can say that they literally work identically. However, there is a distinction between the companies that manufacture them. KTM has long used whitepower forks and rear shocks, whereas the beta has changed its suspension over the years.
I have ZF Sachs suspension on this beta and am very pleased with it. The difference between the forks is that when you change the settings on the KTM, you have to turn a lot of clicks to feel the difference, whereas on the beta, almost every click on the settings is felt while driving. We can say that when driving over small stones and small shocks to the suspension, both absorb the impact almost equally. When we accelerate, I notice that the beta becomes more unstable when compared to the KTM. Of course, all of this can be adjusted, with the addition of compression on the settings or with harder springs inside the suspension.
In terms of forks, I believe KTM and Beta are on equal level. There is absolutely no difference.
However, when it comes to the rear shock absorber, Beta comes out on top. It's a bit unfair to compare a PDS motorcycle to one with Linkage rear suspension. But there is nothing I can do; all I can do is share my experience.
Beta is much more stable, absorbs every impact better, and works flawlessly at both slow and fast speeds. There are simply too many steps below for KTM to compete. I'm hoping that Beta will do the same for the front forks, and then we can declare Beta the suspension winner. But for the time being, we must state that both have the same suspension.
The engine's behavior is the next most important factor for us. I'm not going to say much about hard enduro except that Beta is the winner. Beta's engine has a lot of bottom end power, a calm and even power that doesn't tire the driver and provides a lot of traction on the surface. While KTM has a more aggressive motorcycle that is more difficult to control, the beta engine is the clear winner. If you're looking for a hard enduro motorcycle, the Beta is the one for you.
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@DMC-179
@DMC-179 Жыл бұрын
Buy what your friends riding and/or what dealer is around. The rider adapts his bike. Thats it. There are too many clips about "which is better..." Ride your bike (doesn´t matter which) and have a good time 🤙
@woodsrider117
@woodsrider117 Жыл бұрын
Never had any clutch issues with Betas. I use the clutch a lot.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Жыл бұрын
I only believe the “80% the rider” applies to advanced and pro riders. They can get on any bike and do something amazing. For beginner and intermediate riders, a bike with predictable handling, good tires for the terrain and personalized suspension setup will help to keep from having unnecessary crashes and mistakes.
@justaghost3285
@justaghost3285 Жыл бұрын
100% true
@timdonnelly8392
@timdonnelly8392 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good and sensible statement!
@jamesking4225
@jamesking4225 Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@marioschristofi3145
@marioschristofi3145 8 ай бұрын
Very nice video. Great info. Thank you.
@johnwiggill17
@johnwiggill17 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your review. Thanks a lot.
@TheDirtbikeRider
@TheDirtbikeRider Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@laikpascal1521
@laikpascal1521 Жыл бұрын
Hi from France. Thanks for thé review. Very well made
@melaniemarks6359
@melaniemarks6359 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2023 XC-W 300 and had the opportunity to ride a 2022 Beta XTrainer 300. I understand they are SIGNIFICANTLY different bikes but I was shocked, as was the owner of the Beta, at how much the Beta vibrated. The KTM honestly, no exaggeration, felt like an E-bike after the Beta. I'm also quite surprised that there's not much talk about it bc it was such a huge difference. The Beta felt very similar in power and smoothness to my 2004 KTM EXC 200. If this is how the Beta is supposed to feel and there indeed was not a mechanical issue with the bike, then KTM is, by a long shot, the clear choice for me. I'm 43 years old and I want to ride as many years as possible. The less vibration, the longer (years) the riding. Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison video.
@stormxz600
@stormxz600 Жыл бұрын
The xtrainer is a starter bike. You should compare with a RR. The xtrainer has no power.
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@stormxz600they have the same engine. Xtrainer has a few changes like exhaust. An RR exhaust is a popular upgrade.
@Chromedome053
@Chromedome053 8 ай бұрын
I had a 21 BETA 350 Race test rode a 23 300 xtrainer and 300RR, both vibrated like crazy. Ended up with a 24’ KTM 300 XCW Hard Enduro.🤘
@joelholland8523
@joelholland8523 Жыл бұрын
Good review 👍
@ZonaEnduro
@ZonaEnduro Жыл бұрын
Beta has the "racing" clutch steel plates, that are so expensive... but after I put them in... what a bike! I don't know why even from 2018 the racing plates are not standard on the bikes...
@KTM-Beta
@KTM-Beta 8 ай бұрын
I think I picked two of the best bikes around actually. I got a 2018 KTM EXC 300tpi with uppgraded suspension as well as a 2022 Beta RR350 also with uppgrade suspension. I love them both in different ways and really like to be able to choose if I like to ride 2 or 4-stroke that particular day or based track etc.
@Briank-ef5iq
@Briank-ef5iq Жыл бұрын
Never forget it’s 20 percent bike 80 percent rider latest an greatest dosnt make you a better rider !
@The_Big_Wiggle
@The_Big_Wiggle Жыл бұрын
Do you think the narrator is real? The voice or the script? It feels like about 20% soul. Lol
@Sers0812
@Sers0812 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Big_Wigglehe is real. He thinks his English isnt great so he does this computer voice
@The_Big_Wiggle
@The_Big_Wiggle Жыл бұрын
Ok, you're pretty smart and that makes sense. 150% soul 💗💗 Definitely 😎
@The_Big_Wiggle
@The_Big_Wiggle Жыл бұрын
Also, I used to ride my RM250 on the track .. and sometimes get passed by a kid on an 80. Yes, I'm very much aware that I am slow on any bike 🤣🤣🤣🤣💗
@Gorilos_LT
@Gorilos_LT Жыл бұрын
I tested some Beta's on demo day back in 2019 and I must agree with that fact about front suspension with ZF. But oh boy how different and effortless RR 430 Racing version with KYB forks rides, I never thought how EASY you can ride fast on bumpy single track. I still have my old (2011) EXC 250 two-stroke but I'm looking forward on Beta RR 250/300 Racing, I feel I need to try a different brand than KTM :)
@user-fz8fy4zl1c
@user-fz8fy4zl1c 5 ай бұрын
Rieju mr300 pro,keihin carb,best of KYB all round,kick and e start,oh and raw performance, not like the other euro dumbed down alternatives!
@woodsrider117
@woodsrider117 Жыл бұрын
Screw fuel injection. Beta carbed with a kicker kit or buy a 2019 carbed KTM and earlier. The suspension on both it’s just tune for your needs.
@chadrides914
@chadrides914 Жыл бұрын
1000000 agree
@joshstafford4410
@joshstafford4410 7 ай бұрын
Living in the past bro
@woodsrider117
@woodsrider117 7 ай бұрын
@@joshstafford4410 It’s actually in the now and the future with Beta
@joshstafford4410
@joshstafford4410 7 ай бұрын
@woodsrider117 sure it is. 👍
@russellcarter213
@russellcarter213 Ай бұрын
Very accurate test I agree 100%
@dalepellerin
@dalepellerin Жыл бұрын
I’ll take the Beta every day over a KTM
@m1907_
@m1907_ 9 ай бұрын
I'm looking to start enduro. in my country beta's can not registered to have a licence plate. Is it considered thing to decide? which one should I go KTM EXC 250 TPI vs Beta 250 RR?
@ViktarMikalayenka
@ViktarMikalayenka Жыл бұрын
Please make such comparison with Sherco
@matborst5412
@matborst5412 8 ай бұрын
What about parts cost?
@Alex-uq4kn
@Alex-uq4kn Жыл бұрын
Hello, my friend. Thanks for the great video! I thought for a very long time and recently bought myself a Sherco 2T 300 2023. Please make a video comparing KTM and Sherco, it will be very interesting to hear your point of view.
@handendaer
@handendaer Жыл бұрын
hes not your friend. and why would you care about some random "influencers" opinion? isnt ur own good enough?
@Alex-uq4kn
@Alex-uq4kn Жыл бұрын
@@handendaer Haha)) Why are you watching these videos? Aren't you so cool and you know everything)))
@tdubbs934
@tdubbs934 Жыл бұрын
I was going back and forth between a beta 300 and ktm 300. I went with the husqvarna tx 300. 2023. I read that the huskys had almost no vibration compared to the husky. Also I wanted efi. I didnt want to rejet in the winter. I really like the tx300 and tbi alot!
@dirtyrider4214
@dirtyrider4214 Жыл бұрын
Yamaha Yz 250 X
@user-ij6kf3nm7s
@user-ij6kf3nm7s 8 ай бұрын
What do you think about the Beta X Trainer 300?
@wetlifesports
@wetlifesports 4 ай бұрын
Love it!!
@louisdoucet1498
@louisdoucet1498 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the internet is that a few Kim's have some problems that are taken out of context, a few bad apples so just ride the damned thing and make sure you have plenty of spare engine parts, tools and a tow strap and go out enjoy the days ride.
@nils0n239
@nils0n239 Жыл бұрын
is there a diffrence in fuel economy?
@TheDirtbikeRider
@TheDirtbikeRider Жыл бұрын
Beta proved to consume more fuel, but not much
@simongilbert2704
@simongilbert2704 7 ай бұрын
this makes sense ;;
@benmartin6476
@benmartin6476 7 ай бұрын
From a rider/owner stand point I’ve owned multiples of both Go beta Everyone that’s ever ridden a beta loves them I’d say 50% who’ve ridden ktm love them and the other half hate them with a passion
@user-ds6wl9ms3g
@user-ds6wl9ms3g 9 ай бұрын
Tm 300 en 2stroke is a mx bike with lights
@AlbertKlanort
@AlbertKlanort Жыл бұрын
Ktm exc 300 or Beta RR 300 why Ktm exc 300 why Beta RR 300, thanks to those who will answer me! 🤝🏻
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 Жыл бұрын
KTM 300 💯🤠🤟👍🙏
@tedgarcia8922
@tedgarcia8922 Жыл бұрын
Hasn't the KTM 300 fi been having some major problems?
@harrisondawes5922
@harrisondawes5922 Жыл бұрын
Yeah if you listen to the few having issues. That is the problem with the internet we have 10 in our group and never had a problem. Dont fuck with them get a tsp map and head and you are fine
@chadrides914
@chadrides914 Жыл бұрын
Be more specific. You talking about the problematic TPI or the not sure if it’s problematic yet TBI?
@Briank-ef5iq
@Briank-ef5iq Жыл бұрын
Only problem I’ve had with my 22 ktm 250xc is that the day has to end!! Lol
@tedgarcia8922
@tedgarcia8922 Жыл бұрын
@@chadrides914 saw a video where a new ktm 300 was even running backwards , idling normal then suddenly reversing then normal again. I remember my dad had an old Riverside 125 that you could run backwards and even shift gears , but now days that sounds a little odd .
@tedgarcia8922
@tedgarcia8922 Жыл бұрын
@@Briank-ef5iq my daughter raced her yz 125 for 6 years then jump on a 2011 ktm electric start New at the time , she really liked showing off her start button, because she never grew over 5'2" But could still throw some pretty good whips . I miss them days .
@ddrowdy7666
@ddrowdy7666 Жыл бұрын
So.......the Beta is a beginner bike?
@PNW_MX222
@PNW_MX222 6 ай бұрын
Don’t know many people who “drive” a motorcycle.
@jamieallen5313
@jamieallen5313 Жыл бұрын
Try a Husqvarna
@timmychen6
@timmychen6 24 күн бұрын
beta's plastics are so fucked up and I have a 23 Xtrainer . There's no after maket plastics shrouds for it. Gosh
@user-zw1dy5el1q
@user-zw1dy5el1q Жыл бұрын
Коротко и понятно. Спасибо за видео брат! Привет из Крыма!
@philipsmith6152
@philipsmith6152 Жыл бұрын
Your review is pretty accurate, I owned a Beta 300, the only good thing about that bike was the engine and gearbox...the rest was a let down. Oh, you don't drive a dirt bike, you ride it 🙂
@scannorse
@scannorse Жыл бұрын
The question which is better for enduro ….results from EnduroGP tells the answer (not KTM!) So do the quote from the KTM factory rider: Quote: " a 300 two-stroke (KTM..) - a bike which has won so many world titles in the past but a big, fat zero (enduro-GP, ISDE…) since things turned TPI. "
@AlbertKlanort
@AlbertKlanort Жыл бұрын
what year are the ktm tpi engines produced what year are the ktm tpi engines produced
@timdonnelly8392
@timdonnelly8392 Жыл бұрын
I have the last YEAR of the best 300 xc KTM built , 2016 THIS BIKE IS ABSOLUTE PERFECTION! 😎
@woodsrider117
@woodsrider117 Жыл бұрын
Beta
@user-se7vt5ow4e
@user-se7vt5ow4e 7 ай бұрын
Rieju 300 is the better option for most riders.
@user-se7vt5ow4e
@user-se7vt5ow4e 5 ай бұрын
I agree. The KYB suspension is my go to. Although I really liked my ‘17 KTM 300 the suspension was not that good and very difficult to tune. I ended up replacing the shock with an Öhlins TTX shock which was just as good as the KYB SSS suspension on my Yamaha.
@scottaubrey8392
@scottaubrey8392 Жыл бұрын
Look at the top enduro riders…are they riding Betas?!
@roryhamilton9426
@roryhamilton9426 Жыл бұрын
One came 4th in erzberg 😂
@roryhamilton9426
@roryhamilton9426 Жыл бұрын
Last 4 years in enduro GP too 😂
@nhfoos
@nhfoos 22 күн бұрын
Beta hands down, still family owned, best warranty in the game and still built and made in it's countries origin....keep those Chinese Austrian bikes!
@jord1375
@jord1375 9 ай бұрын
proper likes pumping smoke up his backside init 2:08 we can all rebuild a carb sir...
@shannonscott5788
@shannonscott5788 Жыл бұрын
WELL HONESTLY BETA IS CHEAPER AND DOES THE JOB JUST AS GOOD. Both can an will break just the same when riding hard enduro. Ask me how I know😮😊
@juanpablohinestrosa7929
@juanpablohinestrosa7929 Жыл бұрын
The information is very good but the voice over is terrible! Maybe with the recent advances in AI it can get remastered, but this video is only 1 month old!
Жыл бұрын
Beta ez
@joeleaton141
@joeleaton141 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure you ride a motorbike and you drive a car 😂
@Davis2you
@Davis2you 3 ай бұрын
Great comparison, if you speak English we wouldn’t mind hearing your real voice 🙏🏻
@TheDirtbikeRider
@TheDirtbikeRider 3 ай бұрын
I will try my best
@Boylett91
@Boylett91 8 ай бұрын
Be a better video if you did you’re helmet up when riding
@Davidkxf
@Davidkxf Жыл бұрын
The Sherco 300 is 🤣🤣🤣
@chadrides914
@chadrides914 Жыл бұрын
Is the Sherco junk?
@dpayne8611
@dpayne8611 Жыл бұрын
@@chadrides914 Expensive to keep a live, pretty much as an overrated KTM which breaks every second time u ride it 😂
@user-fz8fy4zl1c
@user-fz8fy4zl1c 5 ай бұрын
Beta plastics are easily broken, front end washes out without warning! Reliability wise ktm are a absolute joke these days,rieju much better bikes imho!
@kylephillips1695
@kylephillips1695 Жыл бұрын
Are all of your videos narrated by this robot voice? Cuz if that’s the case I’m out lol that’s horrible
@AdriftersLife
@AdriftersLife Жыл бұрын
Beta wins…!!!
@my-max-media7621
@my-max-media7621 Жыл бұрын
But he says the clutch on the Beta is basically junk if you use it a lot... and I'm pretty sure in hard enduro you use the clutch (lol) so 🤷 🤣
@AdriftersLife
@AdriftersLife Жыл бұрын
@@my-max-media7621 do you have a beta ?
@darrynpage1808
@darrynpage1808 2 ай бұрын
why do pronounce words and sound like a robot?
@davidgrunklee8407
@davidgrunklee8407 Жыл бұрын
If you're saying "driving", you are NOT a real "rider".
@juliomaciel4766
@juliomaciel4766 Жыл бұрын
Beta 😂🤣
@BMWRacerRick
@BMWRacerRick 6 ай бұрын
Who is this joker? One rides a motorcycle, not drives! Also, he pronounces Beta probably five different ways throughout the video. Makes me wonder about the accuracy of anything else he is saying.
@nathanbird1252
@nathanbird1252 Жыл бұрын
Haha ktm is for more experienced riders
@user-oy1yw2pl6u
@user-oy1yw2pl6u Жыл бұрын
😂😂🤭
@andreja6920
@andreja6920 Жыл бұрын
Beta is red KTM 🙃
@elvispusley3515
@elvispusley3515 Жыл бұрын
Not at all do your homework as you are wrong
@harrisondawes5922
@harrisondawes5922 Жыл бұрын
No idea 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Luca-cz9qd
@Luca-cz9qd Жыл бұрын
No it’s not
@juliomaciel4766
@juliomaciel4766 Жыл бұрын
Novo man os a Pure italian product
@andreja6920
@andreja6920 Жыл бұрын
Husqvarna is white KTM 🙃
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