Bethesda INSULTS Your Intelligence!

[@FlashX212]

Its gonna be worse, Bethesda is gonna rely on the modding community to fix it's fuckups so much that Mojang will look competent by comparison

[@GoatedSynro]

I feel like they resent them, yet rely on them so much in a way. It’s an interesting concept

[@lockskelington314]

Or worse they steal skyblivion and claim it was their own!

[@ToweringPepsiMan]

Funny how their games rely on them so heavily, yet they try to break them at every opportunity

[@FlashX212]

@GoatedSynro the fact that the unofficial skyrim patch is the most (or one of the most) downloaded mods is telling

[@BurnCorpoMedia79]

Starfield: Wide as the Ocean, Depth of a Puddle.

[@GoatedSynro]

lol I like it

[@coolthulhu2]

Bring back Kirkbride

[@GoatedSynro]

His contribution to the lore will always be remembered 🤞🏻

[@DaoistYeashikAli]

Writing and World building are two different things. Kirkbride was really great at lore and world building. But he never directly worked as the writer. Bethesda never had a good dialogue writer

[@payton7000]

@@DaoistYeashikAli Id go as far as to say a good world will make compelling stories easier to write. Not easy, but easier.

[@megamanpwn3dmario]

why does everyone forget Douglass goodall and Mark Nelson. they were the main writers for morrowind, kirkbride was just an additional writer.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

TBF, not all of his stuff was good. Also, Pocket Guide to the Empire is but propaganda

[@kenmck7802]

"They'll just make paper airplanes out of your story." Waaaayyy to...motivate the team there, Emmmiiillll. I'm sure they can't wait to do....their very best.

[@GoatedSynro]

lol it’s actually gotta be super demotivating for the team

[@disgruntleddude]

Stupid is releasing a passion project *no one* asked for, Todd. Stupid is re-releasing the same game *how many* times in the past decade, Todd? Stupid is attacking your community that creates mods that fix that which *you* broke in the first place, Todd. I could go on.

[@darrennew8211]

Why would you not re-release a game that's still selling? Stupid would be leaving money on the table for an already-completed game.

[@renzoraschioni3886]

I don't even have an intelligence to insult anymore, they removed all attributes!

[@polerli18]

Hermaeus Mora ate Kirkbride and shited Emil out, turning the god of lore into the daedric prince of fanfiction.

[@thedarkdojo5115]

Could that even be considered a trailer, at that point? I mean... It was just a shot of a landscape lol...

[@GoatedSynro]

Haha yeah that’s right, more like a cinematic of the landscape

[@PowerfulRift]

Bethesda is the best at being the worst.

[@GoatedSynro]

I feel like they are the best at not innovating

[@PowerfulRift]

@GoatedSynro You just wait, The Elder Scrolls 6 will be Starfield with swords.

[@lockskelington314]

I’m scared they’re going to steal skyblivion and sue if they meet opposition

[@GoatedSynro]

Could you imagine the backlash…

[@lockskelington314]

@GoatedSynro I'd imagine Something similar to Luigi would happen

[@QuestQuenchers]

Damn That burn in the first 5 seconds was legendary haha.

[@Fabulous-Spider]

I agree with this burn😂

[@GoatedSynro]

Haha I’m glad you enjoyed it!

[@darrennew8211]

And yet oddly enough people are still buying TES and Fallout games. Maybe Emil knows what he's doing a *little* bit, altho I agree it's been going downhill.

[@bunkynpaws7369]

This has always been their style; they make worlds to explore, not narrative-driven games. I prefer them to make their games, not copy other studios ideas, because I like variety. Most RPG games have quite limited, quite linear stories, with a small number of significant choices. The lack of real choices is masked by complex dialog trees that account for player behaviour with a line or two of flavour conversation, but doesn't really affect the experience very much. I don't really find that to be much more satisfying to play, but each to their own. As far as streamlining/dumbing down is concerned, that is a factor in most long-running franchises, since the audience for games has expanded from core games enthusiasts to half the population of the planet. In Bethesda games, like many others, this has resulted in system simplification and increased hand-holding, to the detriment of both gameplay immersion and dialog engagement. This is more of a problem, in my opinion, than the core philosophy of Bethesda narrative design.

[@niku4259]

In the words of Immortan Joe - "MEDIOCRE!!#!"

[@random-guy579]

I just hope the elder scrolls six can be modded as much as skyrim tbh

[@GoatedSynro]

All depends on what engine is used, I think they won’t use UE5 so should be all good

[@bpopa27]

I don't think this is going to change for the foreseeable future

[@GoatedSynro]

Nope! I have 0 faith they will ever change

[@Umbra_Ursus]

Emil Pagliarulo is just Brian Griffin: Both write hollow sludge, both have delusions beyond grandeur, and both are thoroughly unlikeable. Really, the only thing setting them apart is that everyone knows Brain can't write, yet Emil somehow holds his job despite it being equally clear.

[@user-bl7em8sx6o]

I think he knows he sh*t and is just the worst lying piece of crap

[@nebula5004]

Bethesda doomed itself when they fired Kirkbride and hired Todd's high school buddy instead

[@chrisdiokno5600]

Kirkbride left, also, while he was....imaginiative, a lot of his lore was...iffy

[@nebula5004]

@chrisdiokno5600 but it was still better than the dumpster fire that is Skyrim

[@chrisdiokno5600]

@nebula5004 Eh, Skyrim still has some neat lore

[@nebula5004]

@@chrisdiokno5600 it does, but its not better than Morrowind, or even Oblivion

[@chrisdiokno5600]

@nebula5004 Fair

[@sadakatu.tanzil]

If I have to craft my own story, I'll just play Minecraft.

[@dizocilpine]

Video games in general are getting dumber and more streamlined. The writing in Morrowind was better than most games, along with it's themes and characters being a play on historical events and cultures.

[@dizocilpine]

In that sense, all media seems explicitly dumber than the 2000s

[@DanielBrown-nb9zz]

I love Skyrim , but the story isn't the gameplay... I played a mod recently Titled Coven Of Crones... It blew my mind, the story stuck out and made me wonder... Why wasn't each character in Skyrim this way? Why couldn't I just figure out the reason who the Forsworn were ? Why were the Hagravens so under-utilized? I wanted to know more... Oh and Fallout 4 should not have started the player at the top left of the map, that impeded the motion of freedom. Shooting games should be somewhat linear as I still don't like them being a level-up system. If I were to change Fallout 4 it would be to remove the entire level up system and utilized only attachments and gear. The story of Shaun and the Wife/Husband Dying Dynamic should have been that whole game's focus and then the horror that is the uncertainty of what might happen would be better.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

I mean, Fallout 4 is still an RPG. Also, we DO figure out the Forsworn are a group of Reachmen who are fighting against who they see as oppresors.

[@darrennew8211]

We can do anything. We can't do everything. What would you have them cut from Skyrim in order to explain better about the hagravens?

[@leonarddement3432]

ummm, seeing that Bethesda is sticking to their new WOKE agenda, and they haven't announced ES VI yet, because it doesn't exist, you can look forward to it being way more expensive and on the next gen system for either Xbox or playstation

[@chrisdiokno5600]

Bruh, being woke is a good thing

[@darrennew8211]

Woke agenda? Did I miss something in Starfield or some such?

[@mups4016]

There's two false dichotomies being put down here: 1. Player Action vs Player Dialogue These things aren't mutually exclusive, and from a design standpoint they're one in the same. Intimidation and violence should be as valid of a tactic as guile and gib. 2. Dynamism vs. Depth It's not a question of sacrificing layers to any given quandry, it's a question of competence. As in, how competent you are in telling a good story while also keeping the player actionable. The entire premise of this video falls flat on it's face and acts more like a red herring than useful critique. I'm going to keep beating people over the head with this cudgel until they get it. Play Fallout: New Vegas. It has no issues weaving any of these concepts together. I realize that fallout 3 and skyrim are so old now that they're people's "bar" for good storytelling, but it's just too sad to think about when bethesda has done so much better in the past.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

TBF, New Vegas was primarily Obsidian

[@oldbutnotdead1]

I don't know anyone who plays Bethesda games for the story. You write a tight, meaningful story as the main point of the game, you don't have people playing that game continuously for 11+ years.

[@buttemountain]

“Bethesda thinks its customers are stupid.” Well, seeing how many people bought Skyrim on multiple platforms, are they wrong?

[@tomigun5180]

A good video game should have a good story. It should be like reading an interactive book. After The Witcher 3, I expect every game, especially RPGs to have well written, deep characters and quests. Edit: Quality over quantity. Starfield's empty world makes no sense.

[@GoatedSynro]

The Witcher 3 set the bar so high

[@tjhedgescout3052]

It didn't seem so bad at first, 3 and Skyrim still felt like it had something, Fallout 4 is when i started noticing it the most, the dialogue wheel like you mentioned, only 4 choices and they are vague, i am glad Extended Dialogue Interface exists to get past that. Fallout 4 was my first Bethesda game that i never bought due to how it launched, 4 times the size of fallout 4 but not 4 times the content, and the bugs and scandals... Ew... Then Starfield, even worse than 76... I'm worried about the Oblivion Remake and TES6 will handle. I doubt i even want to touch Fallout 5.

[@brokentv1855]

Werid I played all those games including EsO and basically 100% them and still willing to play the next fallout n es… funny thing is I havnt touched any of those game in years yet I’m not complaining about them I’ve moved on to other games lol why do internet people get so fussy of developers.. my favourite game was halos don’t see me going on halo content and complaining I just play other games simple

[@tjhedgescout3052]

@@brokentv1855 So people shouldn't be asking for quality anymore? We should just be quiet and get less and less content? Hey if you want to keep buying AAA games go ahead, but i'm looking elsewhere. If i'm not allowed to give feedback, i'll just not bother with AAA anymore.

[@mattomwit]

I love the airplanes example. It is a justification of being lazy. Why bother? Only few people are going to engage and appreciate the story. But is the story not worth telling for the few people who actually care and appreciate it? It is applicable to every book ever written. Why bother these author should have worked in factory and earned money that way. 😂

[@Jaml321]

It's a video game, if it doesn't come in the form of an engaging cutscene i don't care. Imagine if a movie would stop after 23 minutes and ask you to read a book to get what's going on from there on after. Hollywood would be bankrupt within a year. If i want to read a book i will read a book by an author that actually knows how to write and not some hack they call "writers" in the video games industry today. Maybe if Bethesda would stop being lazy and actually put some effort in their engine and writing people would care more about their "stories".

[@darrennew8211]

@@Jaml321 To be fair, a lot of the books in Skyrim (journals, especially skill books) are both short and hilarious. When you can remember some of the books in a game you read two years ago, or there are memes about the books, it's pretty good writing.

[@Veknr44]

It may be an insult to you or I's intelligence for sure, but look at the average comment on an EpicNate video and you'll see the average skybaby isn't the brightest, the fact that that guy can get over a million views on a thirty minute video on some trivial tidbit of Skyrim and posseting it as some remarkable discovery or revelation is testament to the stupidity of the mainstream gamer.

[@Jadizi]

The mainstream gamer isn't well versed in the extremely deep lore of Bethesda, Fromsoft etc. We may be unimpressed by the information but can we blame them for being interested?!

[@GoatedSynro]

“Skyrim: 5 Things They Never Told You About…” but to be fair he’s getting great views from it lol

[@Veknr44]

@ Perhaps stupidity was a bit harsh a term to use but their complicity in the dumbing down the writing in TES is the problem, I imagine Bethesda see's these million view videos where's its just the same obvious facts about Skyrim story anyone who played the game would know and they'll continue thinking the slop writing of Skyrim and Oblivion is acceptable, because ultimately if millions of people are still fawning over Skyrim thinking its some masterpiece than it is. I recoil at the thought of Emil sitting there writing quest for TES 6 lol.

[@h347h]

Bethesda has hands down the best story in an RPG ever with Morrowind.

[@DivergentDroid]

Skywind and Skyblivion will save us.. for a short time.

[@Dragonrealms245]

I really, really hate that Great American Novel quote. "Building shacks" IS a part of your novel, Emil, or did you forget that the Minutemen is a faction with a questline that uses the system?!

[@DivergentDroid]

I have zero interest in Starfield. The science fiction trope of a heliocentric universe is way over done and not realistic at all. If they only had a clue about physics they might have realized this and came up with something more creative.

[@kebesthemighty]

The paper plane analogy is kinda dumb in the context of Bethesda games which have a reputation for players spending a lot of time in, vanilla and modded. Seems he thinks because a player can be invested in something other than the "story", they will never be invested in the story because they did the one thing they were invested in and then dropped the game. Yeah, maybe I did spend the first 30 hours of Fallout 4 building or scrounging for building materials. But do you know what I did after that? I went and played the rest of the game. Having the story be "half arsed" when I get to the story is pretty disappointing and it seems they took it to heart when working on Starfield, but then they gutted the base building anyway so maybe the story isnt the only thing thats been folded into a paper plane and thrown into the bin.

[@davidjuby7392]

bethesda has gotten rid of all their actual game developers and replaced them with activists and that is why they cannot create anything and just reskin and add micro transactions to try and squeeze out every penny from their existing games. I doubt they will ever get out a skyrim 6 and if they do it will be just a poor reskin of older games.

[@firestarter6488]

Their writing *was* amazing... In Morrowind. But I think we all know how and why that changed...

[@darrennew8211]

Yes, the writing in Skyrim is so awful you're still complaining about it 13 years later! Maybe if you provided an example of some game whose narrative is presented better you could improve your argument. That said, look at Starfield's credits. Three times as many producers (i.e., people with fingers in the pie) as there are quest writers. Even so, my biggest complaint is the quests aren't integrated into each other. Obvious things you should be able to do you can't (like arrest the guy in the FC quest). The emissary doesn't seem to know you saved everyone. Your parents show up and stand knee-deep in corpses, telling you how much *that* dead character liked their cookies. Oddly, the coffee guy at Paradiso is the only one that seems to interact with Unity. Etc. Every response the player makes leads to the same result, so...

[@hawksley8282]

Just excuses for awful writing, I find the level of Bethesda's writing insulting but they are making the bucks so why change.

[@GoatedSynro]

A very true statement

[@alexmoore5079]

Fire Emil

[@HorseArmour]

GOOD VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@GoatedSynro]

Thanks!!🙏🏻

[@G_Signer]

not Bethesda, THEBESTA

[@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo]

Did your catholic nun tell you to make another video?

[@captainbuzzkill4658]

ESO is the best MMO ever made and it's not even close.

[@HouseJambo]

Is that sarcasm? Cause that game blows. And its lore shits all over the rest of the series.

[@firestarter6488]

Imagine bootlicking for a microtransaction hell like that turd of a "game."

[@LocustaVampa]

I do prefer it when the sandbox doesn't hoist a tired old story on me when I play. I don't actually care about Skyrim's king or Mahunes Dagon's invasion. That's not why I play these games. I avoided Cyberpunk once I realized it was just a Keanu Reeves story.

[@WintersFinalstand]

I have to disagree. Imagine for a moment if your game had no setting at all. No purpose in any city. Your guild has no story. your quests only ask for 10 goblin axes. Your provinces say "Welcome" and then walk away from you. Really, you need the story to make the sandbox worth anything at all. The reason you walk away from the story is because you already know it's poorly done.

[@LocustaVampa]

@@WintersFinalstand First off, you can't "disagree" bc it's just my preference. You're free to have a different preference though. See the difference?

[@WintersFinalstand]

@@LocustaVampa I am simply engaging you in discussion. My point remains. Allow me a description. You join the fighters guild. They hand you for Duties, ala Oblivion. But instead of promotions and a unfolding story, you only can collect 10 X of a item, the 2nd mission 10X a item, and the 3rd's a retrieval of a generic Ewer. And then it repeats. You got your sandbox, but it has no meat. No substance. The fault in your argument is you prefer no story at all, assuming the game can be a sandbox where nothing matters. If you enjoy that, play risk of Rain 2. It's a good game, but just as Vapid story wise. It should be noted as well for this argument, there is no book, dialogue, or world detail allowed. Anything that can convey a 'Why' should be removed. This is the direction Bethesda is veering. They -Can- cater to you and me alike. Make a good story, a really good one, And still provision the sandbox experience. The fault here is that it takes effort. By saying you don't care for the story, you indirectly also want to encourage Bethesda to demean and devalue the product we both receive. Starfield's failure is a direct consequence of bad story. And skyrim's faults are also a consequence of poor story. Dawnguard is beloved because it tries to tell a decent story. Say what you want about Serana, but you wouldn't care if she was released from her tomb and just stared at you forever. So I encourage you to at least lend a voice when it comes to Bethesda's poorer and poorer story work. It's not just the main quest. Its every quest.

[@LocustaVampa]

@@WintersFinalstand tldr you misunderstood what I said. I don't follow the main story, most of the time. I amuse myself with my own story for the characters I made. It's easier in some games than others, bc in newer games the main quest and many miniquests are piled on to you wherever you go.

[@darrennew8211]

@@WintersFinalstand Skyrim did this just fine. Each faction had their own story. Each quest had its own story. Some were better than others of course. Starfield isn't nearly as good.

[@trefiacc]

Honestly relax bro 0/10 clickbait headline. You acting like Emil killed ur family and Todd burned your village I promise it's not that serious.

[@GoatedSynro]

It’s a pretty relaxed video haha and it’s not a clickbait heading when Emil write Todd’s games like we are all some Neanderthal

[@HouseJambo]

Emil is terrible. No it's not that serious that a fictional series whose writing once beloved is now being spearheaded by the guy who wants to put no effort into writing. Arguably one of the most important parts of an RPG.

[@wadedewell]

Bethesda is dead

[@GoatedSynro]

Let’s see after their next release…

[@wadedewell]

@GoatedSynro are you blind deaf and dumb? Or just a braindead fanboy?

[@ariyanadumon4549]

​@GoatedSynroNah man, they're already a corpse, it just ain't stopped movin yet. Ghoul Style.

[@Pickle_Maniac]

@@ariyanadumon4549 It's twitching in it's own purge fluid.

[@HouseJambo]

@GoatedSynro I hear that after every release. Nah, it's been dead since Fallout 76. That was the last straw.