Bethesda Thinks You’re Wrong About Starfield

[@AxelLeJeff]

The "smuggling" is just taking a couple useless items to the SAME VENDORS on almost every major planet. There's no skill or maneuvering past a point, and if you get caught it's just "STOP! You've violated the law!" all over again. Nothing comes of your smuggling, there's no intrigue, it begins and ends at the arbitrary decision of which items are contraband or not.

[@KaitoverMoon]

Believe it or not, there IS a quest that can be taken if you're caught with contraband and taken to a ship; I can't remember where exactly. They give you a quest to unwillingly go undercover as a drug smuggler.

[@gambello1195]

and if you go to jail you can just steal back your contraband from an unlocked container and ho sell them in the city lol

[@gwynik6969]

No man's sky space flight was way better. For me, if starfields space travel was as immersive, that alone would make the game so much better.

[@Nazo-kage]

Mass effect also had a decent number of planets that were empty, for the most part. But the game made it worth exploring all the empty planets. Because you could easily look on your map and find the relevant things to look for. And maybe along the way you came across something else that was interesting. One of my favorite parts was when you entered into a new solar system, or was about to check out a new planet you would suddenly get a call From General Hackett. And that usually meant a small side involving a planet in that system. The empty planets in that game weren’t exactly empty. There was stuff, and there was a reason to explore them. Mass Effect 2 obviously did it better, where you could just slowly a planet and send Propes out to hotspots, They even had some other stuff that the scanners would pick up like a SOS signal. But even though you were finding empty planets, you were still finding plenty of stuff that would end up helping you out. You can’t have empty planets just for a sense of how small you are. That is a completely and totally subjective feeling. And if there’s a certain way, you’re hoping that players will feel about your game maybe you should relay it in an interview instead of a response from a review post.

[@levidavis1093]

Imagine telling a player with 50 plus hours of playtime that their thoughts and feelings in their own personal review is invalid and then trying to argue that an empty game with nothing to do in it isn't boring and then comparing it to the moon landing. Lmao 😆 🤣 😂

[@markuschief4472]

If you say a game is "terrible" after 50 hours, why are you still playing it? It takes less than 5 hours to know you don't like a videogame.

[@zenithquasar9623]

"I am bored." You aren't actually bored, I know what you feel better than you do.

[@levidavis1093]

@@zenithquasar9623 that's what I mean. Lol yeah, exactly. It's funny how they tell people how to feel. Lmao

[@kaollachan]

moon landing like wiht elite odissey?XD

[@SuperCasperman]

Empty game yet clocked in 50 hrs...make sense

[@OblivionLotus]

What I personally love about their astronaut comment, is how it fails to recognize that the astronauts had a purpose and they were doing science. Meanwhile, Starfield's empty wastelands have no meaningful purpose and I cannot do science on them.

[@RajaSingh-ce2fq]

Going against your audience/consumer is probably not the best idea!

[@Russelshackleford]

“The customer is usually a moron and an asshole” - Larry David.

[@jackmanley1473]

Well I find Starfield very entertaining. I find it hilarious that he loves lasagna & hates Mondays. ....I may have confused something along the way here.

[@Incompetent_Hero]

Starfield minus Starfield probably would have been recieved better 😅

[@AloisWeimar]

The comedian, Jerry Starfield ?

[@AloisWeimar]

yeah those responses have a real Midwest “Oh bless your heart” energy

[@Incompetent_Hero]

Feeling completely insignifigant does count as a feeling of smallness, Bethesda. Good on your for achieving what you set out to 😊

[@keithmichael112]

someone needs to tell their community manager that they're doing too much

[@listofromantics]

Psst... I'd wager the community manager is doing what they're told to by their bosses at Microsoft and or Bethesda. Y'all don't get to pop off like that, in an official capacity on a VERY PUBLIC forum online, and keep going unless management has given the "OK" or the direction to do so.

[@keithmichael112]

@@listofromantics you think? It's a pretty shortsighted direction to go in, everyone is just having a laugh really

[@Jubei66666]

I saw a couple of different replies on reddit, multiple employees. It's definitely a directive from on high.

[@lukelawrence8148]

Someone unoriginal called something unoriginal. This seems right.

[@sks220]

I think the hate is a lot of bandwagon stuff, It's not a perfect game for sure and the base building and crafting leaves things to be desired but I enjoyed my time in the game and that's all I care about.

[@jakkudemoff3043]

Bethesda comparing a video game to the feeling of landing on the actual moon is crazy, desperate and sad

[@aznpanda510x]

I dont play no man sky but tried it in VR2 and owned it… omg now that a real space game!

[@DMBLaan]

Why is this a bad thing for a big game company to do? They're not trolling the reviews, or even being rude. They're just explaining their intentions and design process. I think MORE game studios should be this open with their communities, not scolded for it.

[@Macintosh1001]

Like BK said, it's like explaining your joke that wasn't funny to begin with.

[@DMBLaan]

@Macintosh1001 I hear that, but it feels like a weak argument, especially as we've seen other devs say much worse to their fans. At least Bethesda, who to be clear I'm not 100% sold on, seem to be trying to be friendly

[@adventuroushermit2590]

​@DMBLaan I would say the weak move is replying to the defense of a lame game instead of putting that effort towards improving it. If you have to waste time explaining what you wanted to do then you did a bad job presenting your intentions in the first place and maybe it's those intentions that are flawed. Communication is good but it needs to be proactive to be good. This is reactive and defensive and lame

[@To_Rue]

Hmmm should I listen to someone else telling me what is and is not boring?

[@Tonto151]

Bethesda is that older brother that lets his little sister play with his action figures but complains that she's "playing with them wrong"

[@skylerssupercarlife348]

Playstation people straight angry 😂😂😂

[@durdndemolition]

Blizz not knowing what a 4X game is... cringe.

[@toddtolosa2042]

Lol I'm old and this is super annoying to me, gone are the days of "the customer is always right." Also, I can almost guarantee they have Microsoft AI handling all this (i doubt they'd be willing to actually pay someone for it).

[@hazy33]

Comparing an empty planet to walking on the moon is so weird. You'd be on the real moon NOT looking at a grey landscape on a TV. There is no comparison. How arrogant are Bethesda? Absolutely breathtaking.

[@Maph1sto]

Hey Blizzb3ar, for future reference 4X is pronounced Four Ex in this context: From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_4X_video_games : 4X is a sub-genre of strategy video games. The term is a loose acronym of "eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, and eXterminate", coined in 1993 to describe the game play of Master of Orion.

[@shaggy69001]

i played it like twice, and forgot it existed

[@Russelshackleford]

Sounds like a cognitive issue to me.

[@justsomeguy9073]

@@Russelshackleford Nah it's just not worth remembering.

[@thalunizz21]

The game is objectively not that good. Fallout New Vegas did a lot more over a decade ago if you look up any gameplay. This Bethesda "charm" people keep saying isn't a thing anymore - the bugs, the antiquated engine, the stiff gameplay, the graphics, character models, etc, are not cuttin' it anymore.

[@jzeke91]

I just can’t get into bethesda’s rpg games anymore. I loved oblivion, but could just never get into skyrim because it felt so similar. Then i played like an hour of starfield and it felt like skyrim in space and i got bored in an hour. They have some things to learn from companies like Fromsoft about making combat engaging and making their open worlds feel less empty cause i’m not the only one who feels this way.

[@rjc523]

loved oblivion, fair i only play skyrim with mods but end up quiting after a bit everytime, and true it pretty much is plus guns lol. also ya fromsoft is one of the only good imo AAA studio.(i consider them AAA anyway)

[@Kisuke242]

All we wanted was elder scrolls 6.

[@sonicandroxas]

I'm guessing im the only one that enjoys starfield here lol?

[@Russelshackleford]

More people enjoy it than don’t, we just don’t go around commenting about it all over the internet. We’re in the age of complaining equals content.

[@gambello1195]

people usually leave reviews and comments when they're frustrated

[@thedankestdungeon8091]

People like you are why Bethesda doesn't put in effort anymore, you accept the most mid, low-effort garbage as a game they have no need to improve when suckers like you will buy the game every single time.

[@Supermario3607]

To think that Microsoft bought Bethesda because starfield was only going to release on PlayStation and PC is hilarious lmao

[@rjc523]

really?

[@Kingofconsoles54]

Microsoft spent billions to acquire talentless bethesda 😂😂😂😂

[@markuschief4472]

Sony spent billions to acquire talentless Bungie, to release it's worst Destiny content ever and get tons of devs fired.

[@Kingofconsoles54]

@@markuschief4472 and what about those thousands of Microsoft employees that got fired at the beginning of the year? Just so they can buy talentless Activision 😂

[@markuschief4472]

Typical Steam review: Starfield has hundreds of planets, gameplay styles, stories, ship parts, outpost building, etc etc... "bUt It hAS LoAdiNG sCreens" "Terrible!" "Not recommended" 🤡🤡🤡

[@whatsitmatter9541]

Typical Xbox review: "Microsoft best game this year and don't listen to the critics on this there most Playstation fanboys." or "It's really an 8, but I'm leaving a ten because of the Sony ponies review bombing it." 🙄

[@gambello1195]

"Posted from a PC with HDD"

[@markuschief4472]

@@gambello1195 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dampaw9552]

"Bethesda Thinks You’re Wrong About Starfield" Yeah, it's A LOT WORSE than you think it is.

[@listofromantics]

Frankly, Bethesda's attempts to gaslight negative reviews for Starfield are just pathetic. It smacks of desperation on Microsoft-Bethesda's part to revitalize interest in a game that, just months after launch, the majority of gamers have simply written-off or moved on from. I know Microsoft was (and still is) desperately hoping Starfield would become another decades-long, pop-culture hit like Skyrim, to prop up Game Pass, but IT ISN'T 2010 anymore and the entire industry (devs and gamers) have moved on. The game Bethesda made was mid, especially compared to the myriad of GOTY-quality games that released this year. P.S. - The ONLY positive thing Starfield did for me was make me boot up (heavily modded) Skyrim again, and I'm have a blast, with a game that's 12+ years old.

[@thomasway0320]

Maybe they should stop thinking.

[@stagger225]

Starfields voice acting and facial animations could be better, it seems like the characters are toning down their emotions. UI is confusing, I get confused with ship upgrades, so many weapons and very little ammo

[@Blitzkim2]

Literally got an ad for the marvel snapshot game while I was watching that segment

[@jonathanhijlkema8247]

If anything is petty or sad, it's this content, just saying 👍

[@aniyn]

Who the heck is unfamiliar with Dune at this point? That's like not knowing LotR.

[@Barron198]

It a good game but it would be nice to have the option of getting it to run at 60 FPS

[@fluffywarhampster]

I don't get all the complaints surrounding starfeild. 90% of the people bitching already have 40+ hours into the game and at that point how much more do you really have a right to expect for 60 bucks? im 40+ hours into the game and have hardly touched the main quest, built a starship or even delved to deep into the base building. I feel I've more than gotten my monies worth and that anything else i get out of the game is just extra.

[@tommy6742]

"Bethesda Thinks You’re Wrong About Starfield"...are you making a game people actually want to play or something you guys think is what people want?

[@TheUnlovedhomie]

Wait. A young child ? Lol that wasn't a child

[@ray017ray017]

Why is this a lame podcast but a small clip

[@TheWtfanime]

Is there still to many menus, steps, and loading screens between basic actions that shouldn't take forever like fast travel? Then it's still boring.

[@TheFreakedoutduck]

8:00 Hey Jack, sorry to hear that one of your favorite mobile games might be shutting down. But hey if you could fill out this form and tell us how you feel.........

[@EnchantedSmellyWolf]

Starfield is my type because it has more realistic than other space games.

[@fenrir7878]

I actually really like Starfield. I do want more content on the various worlds. One of thr most fun was finding the Dinosaurs and animals outside the main city. I went hunting and it was pretty fun. Starfield is fun. It's not genre defining or original. Older games like Mass Effect, Outer Wilds, heck even Minecraft pioneered exploration genre. Don't act like your game is this crazy never before seen type. It's still respectable, but people were hoping for more.

[@dreamulator]

ok

[@BlazeMakesGames]

Yeah I just did my own reaction to these responses and they are so cookie cutter generic that it's just hilarious and sad. Like for real, if it was about bugs or people who where spreading outdated or incorrect information, that would be reasonable. And acknowledging bad reviews is commendable. But Responding to bad reviews in this dismissive and pointless manner just does more harm than good. they should have just put out a general community post saying "We're acknowledging some of the common criticisms" and do it all in one big post that would help it feel more concise and direct and less generic. This just comes off as desperate and like they're in damage control mode.

[@fenrir7878]

Are you serious? They compared Starfield to astronauts? Also, the space missions were very dangerous and had high risk of failure. It was about survival and achieving impossible. Starfield is video game. C'mon Bethesda, cut the crap. If you mess up the next Elder Scrolls, you’ll be hearing from me. Seriously though. Starfield has pretty great graphics, gameplay, and leveling system. To put such polished mechanics into an uninteresting setting where books are classical literature like great expectations, it shows a lack of imagination.

[@NCG92]

You guys need to check curative assembly out on the Total war series if you think bethesda are bad with community responses. CA banned players for having an opinion

[@puregarbage2329]

It’s not some of the planets though…it’s all of them…

[@ragadrop]

I tried star filed, it was the same amazing game it was skyrim, but that is just basic game by todays standard

[@DtWolfwood]

Copium. Copious amounts of copium. Look they wanted to make a boring expanse, they managed it flawlessly. People were bored, and moved on.

[@Chiongster101]

Beautiful? Yes, interesting? Ermmm..not that much

[@TheMegaBenwar]

They respond to this, but not to the comments/reviews that point out the myriad of bugs (some funny, some game breaking). Good to know where their priorities are.

[@scrubsscrubs694]

What's sad is everyone jumping on the hate bethesda band wagon for making a bathesda game. The negative press is ridiculous and I don't blame them at all.

[@themojaveavenger3115]

Starfield was good. I think, over time, we have just become far too critical and much harder to please. I'm satisfied. Besides. I dont need Bethesda to make a groundbreaking achievement. I need them to make the framework. Molders will take care of the rest. 2 years? Starfield will be where Skyrim was. 6? Lol

[@thedankestdungeon8091]

Starfield is the middest game of the year that isn't blatantly just a bad, mismanaged game like Gollum. All you are doing is making excuses for Todd who knows people like you would eat the shit from his ass if he asked.

[@mikeuk666]

​@@thedankestdungeon8091attention seeking kids award

[@plasmaquark]

Well I tried it , got through the tutorial and uninstalled it. The very first thing that annoyed me was the animation on the character. Sorry Bethesda you wasted years on that pap.

[@Baraz_Red]

Well my money speaks truth to Bethesda (I did not buy Starfield, but I was gifted a free copy as a moderator, and played it fully. I do not recommend it). Sadly, it seems many bought the game already, but maybe not next time. If Bethesda recognizes the bad designs and fixes Starfield, I will reconsider.

[@Breakzoras]

Inside gaming has been worse and worse in quality each episode, this episode 1 out of 3 could not even read the descriptions of the game releases, like... why do you even bother making an episode if you are not even putting the slightest effort.

[@hardstucklive]

God left me unfinished

[@John_Aiginitis]

Bugthesda*

[@mikkermkker2152]

"but there was nothing on the moon when we landed there and that was cool". That translates super bad to a videogame.

[@mickeyB6453]

"the astronauts weren't bored on the moon!" okay, weird comparison? First, that was a monumental achievement for Human advancement and nobody had ever done that before. Starfield does not amaze by just....standing on a planet. Saying its supposed to evoke smallness is defeated by the fact that you can fast travel to literally anywhere else in a matter of seconds. There is no surface-to-space travel to really make it feel like you landed on a planet. Just an animation. And then saying there's a lot to do on those planets....what, like trek for miles to some random base thats been copy-pasted from somewhere else and kill the same copy-pasted enemies over and over? killing local wildlife because you needed some materials? Maybe the first few times its fun, but after a while that gets....boring!

[@ELELMENTGAMEING]

It was fun too. It took all the stuff with the people she wanted. The money glitch wasn't hurting anybody people still playing your game

[@jamesrinley]

Starfield is boring. So is BG3. But to save the day, Alan Wake 2, is great and available on both consoles. (Except Switch of course).

[@george.l2593]

You have the power of the sun!! That tickles babies Woho!!!!

[@rjc523]

starfield is just skyrim in space with guns, skyrim was only fun cause of mods, oblivion was amazing and still better imo, nms did space, ships, outposts, ects better, there are just better space rpgs in general then starfield. like mass effect, ects, empty open worlds are shit. no matter the reason. look at dw9/dw9e, ects, and making dlcs that you have to paid for. for a unfinished half assed game is also not good. also betting it could be cutcontent they making you pay for too. why cant we go back where games were good, not really buggy, were COMPLETE games, didnt NEED dlcs, ects. i miss the true golden age of gaming. thank god for indie devs. otherwise we wouldnt have any/most goodass games. since AAA companies rarely make thou for like over 10+ yeaaaars lol.

[@fatherkarl9291]

Pathetic Bethesda😹🗿🗿

[@jakkudemoff3043]

Pathesda

[@bingo5387]

I 1000 pointed Starfield, I'd say it's 7/10 at best, I'd give it a 6. The game overall is very wide, but very shallow. The only things that feel like they have any depth are the weapons and ship building. Most of the quest lines have their interesting points, but are otherwise pretty generic and could be swapped into any other Bethesda game if you just changed some elements. The companions are passable, but not really memorable. The temples where you find powers are laughably bad once you realize its the same thing every time. It just doesn't really do anything better or even as good as games that have come before it. Better story and characters: Mass Effect, better exploration and flying: No Man's Sky, better physics and mystery: Outer Wilds.

[@TrevorCut611]

Oh look, the hate bandwagon like the good ol Cyberpunk days. Man, cant keep your pitchforks down can ya?

[@urbOYfREND]

starfield is one of the best bethesda games of all time

[@Macintosh1001]

Oof the salt🧂🧂🧂

[@101wormwood]

I got it free w/ my latest pc build....not worth the space from what ive seen. hvnt been tempted to even try it. NMS was fun again for about a week though.

[@BEASTEYBOX]

You won't have to wait long to see the flood of comments defending starfield and trying to convince other people that they didn't waste 70 dollars on a game they didn't enjoy so they must convince you that they did love the game 😂

[@mikeuk666]

It's on gamepass

[@FaytVanguard]

Starfield just keeps proving they should have stuck with improving Fallout. (Aka Remaster Fallout 3.)

[@scrubsscrubs694]

Bethesda is right tbh

[@ReesesCupsable]

Microsoft keeping those L’s coming!

[@Murdstone12]

Just get starcitzen bros it's better 😂

[@jadedbreadncircus9159]

Lol I stopped playing this caca.

[@Russelshackleford]

Bethesda is right.

[@whatsitmatter9541]

No they ain't.

[@GilesEternick]

First. Also, Firt!!

[@uglyangelracing]

Oh the game is broke. I cant progress anymore due to a bug that effects npc dialog.