Bevel Angles 101

[@hukmansworldoftea3580]

thank you. i saw a vid where you were honing a gold dollar while pressing on the spine. i was able to do that and get a bevel set WITHOUT tape i used vermont green slate as a two stone hone and got the best edge ive ever had. just as sharp as a DE blade but way more comfortable. its not perfect but it works. couldent get the very end of the heel and very tip of the toe to hone. you have been the greatest instructor i have found!

[@KeithVJohnson1]

Cool, thank you for watching, commenting, and sharing!

[@claudalley6495]

Excellent video. It’s weird how a guy can’t help but to constantly be wondering about going to the next level with these things, until you achieve that next level, then it becomes weird not to. Thanks man.

[@KeithVJohnson1]

Thank you for watching, and commenting! Happy Honing!

[@CallMeDblOSeven]

Thanks very much Keith. I thought everything was well laid out, understandable, and tied together with a summary that made great common sense.

[@KeithVJohnson1]

Thank you for the very thoughtful comment! Much appreciated - happy honing!

[@juliovesperinas9673]

Not your typical video but educational as ever Keith. Thanks for taking the time to produce these things and put them out there!

[@KeithVJohnson1]

I hesitated doing this one but I feel pretty strongly about the subject matter so I rolled with it. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@reavewatkins8963]

Keith, I think you've demystified with pure logic the arguments you speak of.Point is : depends on too many factors,why argue. Bravo!

[@KeithVJohnson1]

Cool, Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@leonardfloresta2140]

Thanks for the vid Keith! Finally found time to watch! Bevel angles to me seem like such abstract topic to which I've never really found clarity on with the forums. (also, i kind of noticed that there were a lack of gold dollar jokes on your other recent videos. glad to see them back! lol)

[@KeithVJohnson1]

Thank you for watching and commenting Leonard! Happy Honing!

[@johnnyboydianno]

Grata Keith for this video I needed this also great to see you back at it I get excited when I get the notification for your vids ty

[@KeithVJohnson1]

Hey Johnny, good to see you again, thanks for the kind words and I'm glad you found the vid helpful! Happy Honing!

[@JDStone20]

Great stuff Keith!

[@KeithVJohnson1]

Thank you Jason!

[@rockinshavinwithgonzo520]

Great info, I’m still confused on best way to determine the bevel angle and hat tools are necessary to determine it. Any advice or info you could share would be super appreciated. Thanks for sharing all the information and advice you always share, it’s priceless information. Stay healthy, be well and sending many blessings your way brother.

[@KeithVJohnson1]

Use the bevel angle calculator - find it online, hosted by the old Coticule.be site. Measure with a caliper. The one thing everyone gets wrong is measuring the blade width, that distance is from the top of the spine wear to the edge's apex. Many (most) people miss this and measure from the top of the spine, which is wrong .

[@rockinshavinwithgonzo520]

@Keith V. Johnson I will try and do this, I understand about measuring from the top of the spine wear to the apex. Any great way to use calipers to ensure you are at the top, or is it just an eyeball thing, thanks again for always being quick to answer my questions and that is totally appreciated.

[@KeithVJohnson1]

@@rockinshavinwithgonzo520 Uhm, yeah - it's an eyeball thing. You look at where the spine wear is and you measure from there to the apex. lol...

[@rockinshavinwithgonzo520]

@Keith V. Johnson I’m on that website and they are not accepting new members. I went through each tab that I could click on, but did not find the bevel angle calculator. I’ll keep looking.

[@KeithVJohnson1]

@@rockinshavinwithgonzo520 use Google

[@henrys3138]

Thanks for the slurry stone, best wishes.

[@KeithVJohnson1]

Thank you & you're welcome too! I appreciate your support!!! Happy Honing!

[@henrys3138]

@@KeithVJohnson1 couldn't resist, that stone has a shape somewhere between the shape of a knife point and coffin, thought it would look good with a bout 6 combo I got a while back.

[@KeithVJohnson1]

@@henrys3138 I liked the shape of that one also.

[@henrys3138]

@@KeithVJohnson1 lol I had a feeling you did, I know you like your oddities and curiosities in stone shape and color so I pretty much said to myself, "that's a Keith slurry stone if I ever saw one." I also noticed that your stones look different from mine, like mine have a hazy, dull, powdery, almost "brushed" look when dry, but they come alive when wet. Your photos show the stones at a more even and consistent whitish yellow tone both dry and wet. Of course I know stone appearance looks different in person and coticules are unique, but I wanted to know if it was the net playing tricks on my eyes or if I actually got two similar looking coticules. It's definitely the latter, that stone you sold me even has a lighter and more blue slate back than my slurry stone. Maybe it's just a thing with combos? I don't know, but I'll be sure to put it to good use. I can tell it feels more ergonomic than the rectangular stone that came with my first combo. Anyway great video, I haven't honed in a while but I'll get to it at some point now that I have two complete sets.

[@Cdub33]

Nice video, Keith. Great info and excellent explanation. What’s your diamond plate of choice when you need to take a bunch of steel off spine? Atoma 140?

[@KeithVJohnson1]

I don't use a diamond plate to do that usually. I have 120x, 220x, 320x stones for this sort of thing. And, to be totally honest, if the spine needs that much reduction then I just don't want to deal with it. There are too many fish in the sea for me to spend that kind of time on just one of them. But - if I was going to use a diamond plate I'd probably go for a DMT. The Atomas are better for lapping stones, not so much for working on steel. The diamond pattern in DMTs is better for working on the blade. I don't have one now but if I was going to buy one for that purpose it might one of the Diaflat plates. A 220 would be ok too.

[@Cdub33]

@@KeithVJohnson1 Ok good to know. I agree I don’t usually go through the hassle if that much metal needs to be removed, but sometimes I like to just mess around for fun here and there. I’ve got a Nani Pro 400 I bought for heavy work but haven’t really used it too much yet. Anyway thx again. Love the Post-It note lessons.

[@paulspeller968]

nice one sir great video and makes sense . have to say same findings myself not in your scale but 2 gds measured roughly 20 degrees. (spine can be thick as a leg on those gds) honed up shave meh ok but not the best . ground the snot out the spine got them down to about 17/18 degrees honed up and the shave was a marked difference. . know i thought maybe it was because i got the warp’s out so the blade was lying flat on the stone when i was honing it . but in my mind i was thinking it’s got to be the angle . looking at your conclusions and your experience had to be the angle 📐 . i have a wedge like that i did pretty ugly bevel but man does it shave well 👍👍👍👍

[@KeithVJohnson1]

Thank you for watching and commenting - happy honing!

[@larrymc4373]

Good explanation and vid. You got post-it glue all over your JNat!

[@KeithVJohnson1]

Wonderful thing about postits is that the gummy stuff usually just rubs off. Thank your for watching and commenting!

[@agaralpha1842]

First 👋. Hope you are fine in this condition

[@KeithVJohnson1]

All good, busy as hell though. Hope you're doing well also. Happy Honing!