Beyond belief

What is belief? Is belief necessary to find true freedom? Or is it more experiential? What is the difference between belief and trust?
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[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

You can now listen to John on Spotify and other audio platforms? Here is his most popular recording 'Common sense guide to meditation' (1m views) - ffm.to/commonsenseguidetomeditation.

[@mantia39]

Christianity meets Buddhism. ..very refreshing. This man is an exceptional mind.

[@christhegreek100]

Buddhism have nothing to do with Jesus.. I am the way truth and life. No one comes to the father expect through me ❤️

[@randybackgammon890]

@@christhegreek100 funny how one can accept the validity of the other but the other can't

[@johnnalussier1702]

@@christhegreek100 God is all encompassing. Why would the Creator be limited to one practice or tradition? There are more similarities than differences in the world's religions.

[@456quip]

Exceptional mind… and heart. Wisdom and compassion indeed.

[@kaywoodparsons1874]

There are many Gods but only one holds the ticket.@@randybackgammon890

[@CockNozzleJones]

What a wonderful treasure of a person John is. How lucky we are to have these videos.

[@juliepeters6960]

He has such kind eyes. A gentle soul!

[@claudiareiche2018]

He is providing the much needed bridge between religion and spirituality.

[@arie5524]

he is my favorite human being ever

[@liubovnow7998]

I'm with you, he's a greatest human been I've ever met. He's real, honest,wise, has got a good sense of humor, very kind...

[@dannydazzler1549]

Gaay

[@greenytoaster]

@@dannydazzler1549 bruh

[@VendPrekmurec]

My mother taught me a prayer, that i knew since i was 3 years old; "jezus moj, bodi z menoj, jaz sem pri tebi, ti si pri meni, amen" (My Jesus, stay with me, I am with you, you are with me, amen".

[@user-cb4yv4ni8x]

Serbian?

[@liubovnow7998]

Thanks John and Fill for bringing up this question. Speaking from my own experience, mental belief has never worked for me. Only my direct experience brought the true knowing, clear answers to any questions and much more. To me, the belief of any kind is just a mental concept, it's usually comes from logical, practical mind that rises from ego-mind system. In my lifelong experience it's automatic, machine like, not alive. I'm like John, I trust the the deeper invisible knowledge that rises from Aliveness, Nature, from this Everlasting Breathing, Living, Expending reality. Every time I experience the alive Presence, I feel safe, at ease, calm knowing in my whole being being included, being loved, being cared for. So the trust comes naturally, tenderly, kindly unfolding in this Presence. Being in this state, I don't care about the mental concepts, about mental approaches, and labels.

[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

Hi Liubov Now - I personally agree with you " belief of any kind is just a mental concept," It seems to me belief is an appeal to the mind about things it cannot know. Like you I prefer direct experience. That's why I meditate. Phil

[@randybackgammon890]

Fully understand the disire for experience over belief,but how does one ever KNOW that the experience we take as significant is not itself just another dream? Seriously,can we ever

[@GodManCan]

Such peace. So much comfort in listening to the words. Such beauty in what he is saying. Thank you John.

[@micheledeidda2565]

i' m glued to his humble and his modesty, though he replies to each questions he does it with an introspective invisible questiin mark, that's what makes those videos unique.

[@guttersnippeesmithers3905]

Very relaxing voice he’s a gentleman

[@JohnSandwich]

Treebeard... a kindly gentleman.

[@akuma2892]

What an inspiration this man is.

[@onenessseeker5683]

the best way to end the day is to listen to John, dear old John & Phil

[@Sensiblewellbeing]

I love this man!

[@Awesomevids806]

Such a beautiful and sweet man the world needs more people like this thank u John butler for everything u do

[@DaKloneLiving]

It is good to see you John Butler! I am grateful for another unfoldment video!

[@evaesp1559]

Oh John- Your beeing and natural enlightened talks should be heard in Churches all over the world and thus restore Christianity ❣️Thank you and God bless you, even when I know it’s fullfilled...

[@mamakayasmr8998]

Wow I can’t relate to anyone as much as this man. He is the sweetest

[@catherinem4130]

Just to say "I believe" is just words. For myself, I came to understand attitude and actions of my experiences seeking GOD, as well as trying to love my neighbor as myself...this is evidence showing my belief. Anybody can say they believe, but show me the works produced from a believing heart. Otherwise, "I believe" are empty words. Thank you both for doing these videos. They are very helpful and encouraging.

[@philipjohnson331]

10:12 staring contest against John. Ready set GO

[@theantitroll6185]

Philip Johnson crap I lost lol

[@EliteHalo5]

nourishing

[@WRITETRACK76]

“Well lets all have a five hour nap in a church... come back to stillness. When you’re kid has a terminal illness and the doctor is too busy meditating you should stop talking and have a nap too. Words. What’s that all about eh? I don’t know. I don’t have any answers, but well, here’s my KZbin channel for you. Is it nap time? “

[@protectoroftheinnocent5245]

Such an interesting man. I could listen to him for hours.

[@mr.wright7182]

god bless you john thanks again for the books!

[@nslfhq4309]

don't we?...isn't it?

[@shaungibson7322]

Another masterpiece John, thanks.

[@OSKARSY11]

I want to see John Butler on Joe Rogan's podcast. I would love to know what John thinks of Conor McGregor vs Denzel Washington.

[@cloveravery85]

Too many words for our dearest John. LOL But I know what you mean.

[@anthonybkr]

Thank you John

[@mikaeldelta]

What I really like about you John Butler is the way you share your own story, your personal experiences of your life's journey with such simplicity and honesty.I dare to say that this kind of short time confessions make people trust you and love you more.Greetings from Athens.

[@bruno84]

Love this man! So humble, so simple... So wised!

[@MH-cw5cj]

Bruno Silva So wise**

[@Agui007]

We are always trying verbalise action. Just accept it as it is.

[@keepitsimple4629]

I was with a group of patriots, and as we went around the table and introduced ourselves, every single person, to a man, introduced themselves as "my name is so-and-so, and I'm a lawyer (or teacher, or real estate salesman, or doctor, or whatever). When it was my turn I pointed out that they all introduced themselves as their VOCATION, not who they really are. I said "I'm a child of God".

[@josephsonoftheuniverse5541]

This is perfect ..I've just come to understand this ..

[@benperiod]

can you make the intro music quieter because its incredibly loud compared to john's voice, and when you listen to videos back to back, the music is just blaring :////

[@jack688]

I believe this man is one of the most enlightened people I ever seen. And at the same time, he claims to know so little. I really admire that, its funny to have people ask him almost unanswerable questions, and he just gives such amazing responses. You know? He just feels, and understands. Don't ask so many questions, don't talk, don't think, just be still. Its a beautiful mindset :)

[@Adele.N]

much gratitude

[@Caz2023]

A wonderful spiritual teacher 💜

[@meggiemoo931]

“An electron coming to rest”- I could get very technical about the science behind this, but in essence he is summing up chemistry/biology/life... that everything seeks stability. Stability in a chemical sense means to exert no more energy than what is necessary and to take a form which is the least likely to be destroyed (least reactive). This scientist is saying that life is driven by its tendency to seek order. That’s my interpretation, at least.

[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

Thanks Megan. I think the Second Law of Thermodynamics has something to say about this ... entropy. (so does Muse's last album). Phil

[@funkymoonboots1971]

Another sublime video. Gratitude.

[@bonnie8441]

If only he'd lose the air of intellectual superiority.He talks in so many riddles,at times he confuses himself.You've got a great voice John.Please convey your thoughts in laymans terms.'simple' is a word you often use.

[@glisteningwaters3312]

Yes, we are souls of courage willing to be born in a world of sacrifice merely for the experience. In the end, we awaken to the reality of our essence. We enter the realization that we inevitably transform, transition, resurrect and ascend back to Heaven; the epitome of love, light, eternal life, stillness, happiness, peace and freedom where unity and royalty awaits our return home. I can't wait!🙏

[@danielelam5513]

Absolutely mind blowing.

[@andrewohara8920]

I'm very grateful that you've shared these videos. I'm not a religious person myself, but I do value your passion and zeal. I hope I can find something to believe in like you do someday. My favorite thing is that your belief is contagious in a compassionate way that is not at all oppressive. I sense no judgement, I feel no pressure; I just feel serenity. You comfort me, sir, and for that, I am grateful beyond words.

[@johnbutler4001]

Thank you, Andrew. What comforts me? Where does it come from? I sit here at my computer and look through the window. What do I see? Beyond the car-park and a few houses, a tree-covered hillside and the sky. It's as perfectly simple as that.

[@disstortedwelshman4598]

I'd give my life to learn under this Mann

[@markusmeyer6391]

I love you John Buttler, I love you Phil. Thank you both!

[@varikvalefor]

I'm not Christian, but I do like to learn about religion and people's perspectives; I find things like those to be interesting. These videos go above and beyond, as far as pleasing me goes.

[@morrispridgen]

Varik Valefor, well enjoy hell

[@varikvalefor]

cmp0714, one is capable of catching more flies with honey than he is with vinegar.

[@druidboy76]

Literally nobody cares about your spiritual life. Nobody. This comment section is about this video and this man. Not you and your atheism.

[@varikvalefor]

druidboy76: My comment was written as a compliment regarding his videos, as opposed to being about me.

[@druidboy76]

Terrier Gaming Eat the corn out of my shit.

[@Seductive_Psycho]

If you dont know too much you haven't grown up...i totally get that...i really like him 😊😊

[@jamiekitson8087]

I absolutely love John's teachings, but I more so love how Phil challenges him within this video. Belief for me is most definitely a "leap of faith" which I for one is more than content with. For me, belief is the only way I can find my stillness. Happy new year both!

[@mikebucur8461]

Another great video!! John Butler, you are an inspiration sir, thank you!

[@markdillon5494]

This guy's hypnotic

[@factenter6787]

Believing in God = acknowledging His existence and presence Trusting in God = obeying Him and leaving the consequences to Him

[@goatitisful]

I'm just curious.. is it just me? Or is it the way that he smacks his lips, and closes and opens his mouth between words that gives me the most intense asmr. I like that part Even more than the voice itself. I'd like to hear from anybody who can tell me if it's just me, or if this is common is people who are capable if getting intense asmr from a voice like this.

[@lori6477]

goatitisful i am with you 100%. Always has been my most favourite

[@TheHadar99]

Literally here just for it

[@slanamariane3698]

Welcome to the club!

[@nasu78]

My grandfather spoke like this, I loved listening to his stories...very ASMR-y.

[@WOLFM0THER]

3:46 Around here, I’m guessing

[@joshuamatse438]

Very relaxing voice

[@ANDREWISHERWOODMUSIC]

Relaxing voice .. the man has convinced himself he is on another planet and of another being He’s mental

[@ANDREWISHERWOODMUSIC]

Johannes Liechtenauer no it’s what he says you weirdo

[@ANDREWISHERWOODMUSIC]

Johannes Liechtenauer I AM NOT BORING I AM STILLNESS ... I AM SPIRIT

[@hnky5]

Wold be so happy fore a guided meditation from you

[@Ro-ql6hx]

Opa je maakt me heel blij voor jou liefde en God in mij woorden komen niet uit mijn mond uit de ziel❤️

[@NewMusic.FreshIdeas]

Jesus as the embodiment of the principle of universal sacrifice: John thus says in 30 seconds an idea so rich that it could occupy the pages of a 100,000-word book.

[@Iwannispanop]

It’s so true

[@mikeblank9931]

We needs vids of John only talking, nobody else to wreck the asmr.

[@tcareccia]

I want to be this mans friend. Like, do lunch, or just follow him around and listen to him talk all day long. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@lluna1266]

t car I bet he is great at reading menus

[@AysenurToptas]

I agree with John that we try to put God in a form or in a word...mostly an old man above the clouds....

[@traceyrigby6377]

My dearest John.... ❤️

[@traceyrigby6377]

Jamie ASHCROFT that is very kind

[@BRM101]

Love this guy 👍

[@caroledrury1411]

It is tearful to know I must deal with the silence and the stillness. It gets easier

[@kevinjamesdawes7223]

This is a revelation.

[@AreUniversalConsciousnessvcv]

hay it good to see you ag

[@tommytwomommy]

gurus love the phrase “isn’t it?”

[@tommytwomommy]

Richard Rodriguez agreed

[@nslfhq4309]

@Richard Rodriguez bravo!!

[@FingerBreakerWu]

Because sometimes forcing someone to do a little introspection is justified.

[@DarkCode]

He's not trying to hypnotized anyone. Wrong guru, u must be talking about the pagan swamies

[@adamblister6005]

Mumbo jumbo aside, this man has a great ASMR voice!

[@SuperAussie999]

Asnr is bullshit and dont exist theres no proof for it dumbfuck libtard lol

[@CannibalClown96]

Haha yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see this guy on the unintentional ASMR channel!

[@SuperAussie999]

Zach Higgins yeah it does dumbass were using it right now lol stupid libtard

[@mamakayasmr8998]

Right?! Fuhh I’m so relaxed 👌🏼

[@NotAnybodyElse]

@@CannibalClown96 that's where I found out about him.

[@Scott1433]

God without religion, now there is an idea. I have no idea whether a god exists but I enjoy listening to this very wise and good natured man.

[@khlinter]

lamb of god, that's a good band

[@Bas_Lightyear]

Good lamb too

[@KT559]

They do God's work

[@DanielM196]

🤘

[@tangobravo5752]

This comment was hilarious!! Now I’ve got something to die for

[@randy7068]

They sound like cookie monster

[@Tambo74]

Still Game

[@rafaelmorello555]

❤️❤️

[@martialman12]

Thank you John, this video is very helpful.

[@Salvation7]

Only I can describe faith is to say it's common sense

[@christhegreek100]

Jesus is Lord over Lords and King over Kings... I only read my bible. All answear is there ❤️📖

[@Fire-Toolz]

hi john! this was a fantastic video, but something i would've also enjoyed is if you went deeper into john 3:16 in the beginning of the video. the word you all focused on was "belief," which is an important subject, but at the moment i am interested in "only." i grew up a fundamentalist dogmatic christian, grew out of that, and rediscovered spirituality later through buddhism, hindu, and eventually contemplative/mystical christianity. so, verses like john 3:16 tend to rub me the wrong way, specifically because they seem to make jesus the person into the end-all be-all sole required aspect of life for all people, in order to receive salvation. i see salvation more like enlightenment or awakening or realization, but i have a hard time reconciling the way some verses are worded. i suspect it was the editing and skewing that happened over time, when institutions chose to spin the bible in certain directions to support industry, government, authority, etc. i now understand what jesus meant when he said "i am the way, the truth, and the life, and no one comes to the father except through me," but what does john 3:16 really mean? what is it saying about jesus the person, in relation to "me," the individuated soul? what does this claim mean, that jesus was god's "only" begotten son? i understand that "the son of" means "of the nature of." but i cannot get past the word "only." if john is unable to answer this, i welcome anyone to give their insight. thanks!!

[@SpiritualUnfoldment]

Thanks for your question F-T. You may find this conversation with John helpful on this subject - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5XNeqefpN9qoKs. Phil

[@mju135]

Everything we know about the emergence of consciousness in the brain tells us that spiritual experience of "the infinite" is an artefact of the mind. Which means: this experience does not need to depend on a larger spiritual being out there. But the reality is even crazier: our deepest spiritual experiences emerge from tangible matter itself. Complex arrangements of matter can become self-aware and even generate spiritual experiences out of themselves. That to me is a bigger, crazier story than any religion.

[@Mandaxx25]

nhunha yes we ourselves can manifest anything

[@kaywoodparsons1874]

Would love to hear your take on the conversation between Nickademus and Jesus. When he asked Jesus, what must I do to enter the Kingdom of HeaVEN. jESUS SAID YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN.

[@martinvanschalk5973]

Like someone said, "life is real only then, when I am".

[@EternaLivesMatter]

1 Corinthians 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

[@MrIsraelcenaiko]

What's going on with the hand on the top of the shelf behind Phil?

[@seymourgud]

So close to getting it!! Lamb of God is Jesus, born in Bethelem (house of bread) laid in a manger (food trough for creatures) called Himself "the Bread of life" all that eat of this bread will never die (spiritually)..... it all leads to the Eucharist!!!

[@4444trs]

I love these videos, and I am so connected to what he says. My life has brought me to and held me on this path of solitude and stillness. However, on a human bent...I'm so attracted to the interviewer!!! Ha ha..the flesh still rears its head! A lesson for me by chance?

[@dannydazzler1549]

I love nymphos

[@papasmurf4189]

Papa Smurf

[@shanbags76]

Best ASMR voice ever yeah, I'll give him that. Very enjoyable to listen to. Really not a fan of the questions this interviewer asks in any of the videos I've seen with him and John. It's like he brings out the awkward and ramble from John. The interviews by Iain McNay are much better. They don't leave John raving on a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Also the audio editing is just useless.

[@EternaLivesMatter]

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

[@ahmedadali8994]

wow! I never thought I will stumble upon gondlf in KZbin , sure i stayed to long :v

[@jcjs33]

who knows the presence is infinite?...C Jung was asked 'do you believe in God'?....'no, i don't believe in God...i know God'...why not just say i know God and talk about what tiny pieces of God we all do 'know'..i understand fear of the word 'know'...all i know is what i do not know....those who know they don't know, know (Campbell)...ya can 'get to God through knowing ways Jnana Yoga...or experiential ways...Swami Headuphisassananda

[@JesusIstheNameTakenInVain]

To experience something is to know it. Jesus is. Not because I'm religious or fell for a rouse, but because of experience /s.

[@EternaLivesMatter]

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it isimpossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

[@kreb9721]

Do you two live together?

[@psyopmatrixsystemprojectio176]

Everyone

[@pureownageftw]

I kind of want to comb his beard.

[@johnbutler4001]

Sounds nice!

[@skroot7975]

I want to comb his nose tip.

[@DarkCode]

Lol that's odd man get it together lmao

[@istoleyourbanana8970]

Makes me wish my english would be good enough to understand what he says

[@pollogrey5635]

I can relate to the love spoken of. As love it self going of my experience. Is of course a different style or kind of love to the one that god or Jesus could ever show us, compared to our human love. We can only ever portrait a love with a measurement. But what if a love that exists that is truly beyond measurements. As an example when i was 4 years old i had a vision of Jesus Christ. He came to me and talked to me. But the whole time in his presence the love and peace i experienced was that which flooded me to the point there was nothing else there but just that beautiful feeling radiating threw every part of me. To this day i have never felt something like this a love so pure it radiated threw me into a trance of peace and happiness. The most i come to that kind of love is the love i have for my family how ever it is a mankind love the love i experienced with Jesus was a mankind love but along side a higher true love one that was in fact unmeasured infinity. Almost like it could not run out. Now as I'm alot older i wonder if that amount of love if experienced would in fact set a man into not being to handle it once again. as you get older its harder to pure love everything as you once did as a child as you have seen so much ill and evil its hard to just let them go?

[@johnbutler4001]

Thank you, Pollo. Most certainly, immeasurable love exists, for you, yourself have had a taste, and remember it to this day. The fact that we fall away into lesser 'human' experience and forget what we once knew, doesn't negate it. You handled it once, with peace and happiness - why not again? Finding it harder as we get older, just emphasizes the importance of good practice when we're young.

[@pollogrey5635]

yes I guess your right and as I ruminate around that thought process I can truly see that it makes sense of a higher standard. as I never once sat down and emptied my thoughts or as you put it sit and be still. which I see now. it is a key to unlock a higher sense. I'm doing a form of meditation called micbt (mindfulness - integrated - cognitive -behavior therapy ) it has re opened my eyes and helped with just sitting still and empty my mind so that I can be closer with the spiritual side of my existence. however all these hard work sessions I have gone threw just made me aware of all the crap we jam in our heads all unnecessary items floating about. used to pull you away from the simple things you actually need to live. it distracts you from the good in life and concerns you on the hard, the fears, the pain and the difficult paths you MUST go down. all for the future however the future is ever changing so you cant live in it or worry about it and the past is unchangeable so what is left but the present. but by the time you find your self in the present you are filled with doubt and all your thoughts. from before the future also past that its hard to make a clear path in your mind to release everything and spend time with the still or rest. this is why I don't know if I will ever be treated with the love I was treated with all thous years ago. but I feel sad that not many people do feel or experience that level of love in their life. which of course saddens me quite some. I wonder how it is that I could show my family the same love jesus showed to me... but how is it possible that 'one' could reach that level with out first making the transformation into a spiritual being. and please call me Logan. 'pollo' is just my screen name.

[@mark83175]

Was he in Lord of the Rings??

[@Deso958]

Why do we as humans want to analyse, formulate and structure? Is it not God/Stillness that form has evolved ? To me from my observations, it seems to be an innate aspect of God/Stillness to evolve in to form and as a consequence, we then have inherited that aspect and use it in our daily lives.

[@cnrbsmth]

shifty eye movement

[@mihajlousljebrka790]

if i search for proof, where is my faith ?