Beyond the Noise #39: Connecticut stands up for its children

[@jeffforbus4810]

Vincent, I don’t comment much, but I really appreciate your effort to properly inform the public. Keep it going!

[@MRCAGR1]

The U.K. didn’t get the vaccine until 1968. I had measles as a child and still had measurable antibodies 50 years later.

[@mgmartin51]

In our hometown (Rochester, New York), a nurse practitioner was charged with falsification of immunization records so children could attend school without the requisite vaccines.

[@TheFirstManticore]

But if they didn't allow the children into school, the nurse did the right thing. The law isn't always morally right.

[@WillNewcomb]

Thank you! As a believer I'm appalled by the hypocrisy putting too many kids at risk.

[@markrobinowitz8473]

Most of those who claim that an ancient book supersedes everything else still manage to shop up at a hospital if / when they get very sick (and not a church or yoga studio or vitamin shop).

[@maureengonzales2599]

Thank you Paul and Vincent!

[@DudeFun-yi7nu]

Thank you Paul and Vincent, don't give up, there are so few voices of reason left, save the world please.

[@Fraan000]

I never knew that about porcine thing, but I understand now. Very interesting as al!

[@MRCAGR1]

Reading the comments on the substack itself, some of which are quite worrying.

[@vvanderer]

The Jewish rabbinical view is that pork derived medications do not break the prohimition in eating. The reason is that the iinsertion of the product into the body was not a species of eating. Of course lay people without access to learned writings, may sincerely but wrongly believe that the vaccination wou,d breach religious law. So it behoves religious leaders to explain this.

[@anthonyrstrawbridge]

What? Post a .pdf edu.

[@vvanderer]

Is substack open access or pay to read? Please post a link t o an explanation of how it works

[@garthdryland]

Paul's is free

[@riok6234]

If I'm understanding correctly we can include the Amish as right wing now.. interesting. Please discuss the association between Vitamin A deficiency and measles in your next discussion.

[@georgeharrison6022]

Correction, ultra right wing extremists

[@DP-PhD]

Unfortunately I think he goes deeper. There’s a growing group of people who do not believe in the existence of viruses and for that reason they will never agree to vaccination for themselves or their children

[@toms7695]

Here is your chance to ask a question to someone that thinks like this, I encourage you to ask anything you would like. I am a very nice person and more than willing to patiently explain my position.

[@DP-PhD]

@@toms7695 Hello. You do not believe viruses exist? Believing in incorrect facts does not mean someone may not be a 'nice people', although I do understand why you stated this as many 'deniers' can become very emotional and aggressive if their 'beliefs' are challenged. I have had discussions before with people who do not believe viruses exist. The 'cordial' discussions usually focus on the fact that as a eukaryotic cell is required to allow a virus to replicate for study, it is impossible to culture 'pure virus'. This correct fact is then conflated to believe 'impurities' from viral culture are the cause of all 'structures' observed in viral visualisation and results seen in viral detection, viral activity assays, and every other viral analysis method. There appears to be no way to ever convince that just because a virus requires a eukaryotic cell to replicate it is not a 'unique infectious entity' and is ONLY a product of the 'culture methods'. If however you feel you would like to explain your position, I certainly believe in respectful debate.

[@Sceince01]

@@toms7695the question is , how ignorant are you ? How many studies Todd you have to ignore ? How many cases of transfer from person did you have to ignore ? Why do you think we physicians are often able to predict which virus is it based on history and other cases in family and the test result confirm our suspicion and are positive for very same virus ?

[@Sceince01]

@@DP-PhDI have zero respect for such incredibly ignorant clowns though , specially when they preach th you rt nonsense . It’s very difficult to convince a mo..ro..n

[@toms7695]

@Sceince01 I'd put dollars to doughnuts the majority or your viral disease diagnosis is not done by sequencing. The problem is that physicians have a very useful scapegoat. It is incredibly easy for you to blame a viral infection for just about any symptom you can imagine. As for viral transmission, the amount of variables involved in proving that a patient acquired their viral load from a specific place or person is astronomical given the size of a viral particle, it would take an assumption whether you like it or not to tell someone where they had transmitted a virus, assumptions seem to be the glue that holds virology together... As for sequencing genetic disorders, the data has always been flawed and there are always exceptions for any given case, muh like the rest of virology , if something doesn't add up you(physicians) just fill in the blanks with assumptions. I would point you to the common misconception that humans have successfully cloned a sheep, technically the sequences are different yet the majority of scientists will still conclude that the sheep are clones, despite the contradictory facts that the sequences are not the same.

[@gustavofring-thechickenman]

Yoga instructors 😂❤

[@Katherine-g1r]

Good. Screw philosophical exemptions.

[@sqlsmarty4325]

Thank you both. 👍⚕️💉

[@carlitaticconi6655]

Nothing great necessitates coercion.

[@proudchristian77]

There is a Big difference between vaccines of yrs past & 20th century covid vaccines, I got them as children too , u be iffy with people's they won't trust you , & that's a whole other thing , called a mess 💝👍

[@vvanderer]

COVID vaccines are 21st century Many of the COVID vaccines on the market use mRNA technology but more E traditional ones are available.Billions of doses have now been given and side effects are very rare indeed. Joe blow, the man in the street, is safer vaccinated than unvaccinated. Figures don't lie

[@Sceince01]

Yup the mRNA vaccines are way way better