BeyondATC - Full Flight! (KLAS - KSAN | With Premium Voices!)

[@kosys5338]

I'd be lying if I said I'm in no hurry for this. I can't wait for Beyond ATC to be released.

[@leg690]

You should implement CPDLC with the ATC system for ARTCC/FIR en-route and for PDC's on the ground so you dont have to call delivery each time, that would be awesome!

[@jdshemp]

And D-ATIS.

[@SerenityMusicOasis]

This is freaking amazing. Wow, we NEEDED that.

[@FlyBySimulations]

Phenomenal Stuff! The premium pack genuinely SEEMS premium, instead of simply adding a cost to a sub-standard product, and I commend you for that. I sincerely cannot wait to showcase this on my channel and help bring Beyond ATC to as many people in the community as possible!

[@bustergrn]

I think we're getting a bit closer with AI but the intensity in the delivery of simple instructions and responses still keeps the tool on the robotic side. The AI learning is a great. I'd recommend some less intense audio samples to humanize the overall program. Looking forward to this coming to the sim. Regardless of small improvements, I think this will be a fantastic alternative to live ATC like VATSIM.

[@Not_Lewis]

Yea I noticed that too. Needs more casual sounding pilots and fast / efficient controllers

[@Degslon]

@@Not_Lewis especially on the taxi instructions it's really robotic

[@frap9965]

Yeah and also the degradation need to be greater and make the voices deep due to it

[@frap9965]

Not only that; more white noise is needed as well

[@MartinWenzelYT]

Well a lot of that degradation is actually exaggerated. Actual communications between ATC and planes are clearer than when we listen in as a third party. But yeah, could use a little more and the voices at least in the actual flight seem robotic. The demo at the beginning sounded amazing.

[@royvankan2723]

This is absolutely the most wanted tool since the release of MSFS. The voices sounds great! Maybe you can make the voices more radio-ish like in real life. Some voices also do sound already aggressive when at first contact. But apart from that. Take you time guys so we all can enjoy this gem in the making. So excited.

[@emmerich2080]

Yes I noticed that too. Sometimes they seem like they are screaming.

[@mcorrive12]

Also the "g'day to you as well*. I've never heard a controller say "as well". Nitpicking. All around this looks awesome! Also, I feel like there's a lot of middle age controllers out there. The ai voices tend to not sound very age mature. Not sure if there's any way to control the variation there. Keep up the great work!

[@mcorrive12]

I wonder if you include an optional check box to op-in option in the options to allow the AI to re-use the users voice as a "controller voice" for future users. Idk, just throwing ideas out there and that came to mind based on the auto-reply function.

[@CivRyan]

i am so hyped for this! Bravo to the BeyondATC folks for the hard work!

[@theVRpilot]

This will be a game changer for VR flying/immersion! Great work team!

[@Not_Lewis]

Within 2 minutes I'm awestruck. This is probably the only add-on for MSFS that I'm actually excited for.

[@mohammadhhabashizadeh6644]

As a commercial pilot with extensive experience I realized you guys have done wonderful job, everything is precise and well thought about. Even the frequency switch overs on the ground when crossing runway was pretty accurate. excellent job

[@stevem4005]

I can't wait (like everyone else!) for this, a huge advance and what people have been asking and waiting for. Worth pointing out (as you said on a previous video) that the annoying feedback beep after talking can be turned off as it could put many off and leave a false impression, that would be a shame as this is such an outstanding product. It's rare, but you have done a truly game changing job on this! All the very best to the team.

[@Metroidprime117]

this is gearing up to be one of the best ATC programs there’s been perhaps after you’re done with FS2020/2024 you can look into releasing it for other simulators like P3D, FSX, X-Plane etc.

[@russellfredric2509]

Extraordinary. One small step for man, one giant leap for ATC!

[@stefanofinetti6568]

Can't wait to see this software out for sale. This could really be a game changer. Some curiosity though: You were cleared for 01L and in the same time another traffic (presumably from FSLTL) was cleared for takeoff on 26R, which is basically the same runway on the opposite direction. I guess that since (as you said in the interview) you are not "controlling" the traffic but just adding dialogues to them, this seems a classic "weather conflict" between MSFS and FSLTL

[@cynaptic]

It may have just been my imagination, but I almost heard a note of frustration in the AI Controller’s voice after the read back was finally delivered correctly. Kudos to the developers of this program. Awesome work! Looking forward to the final implementation.

[@MattBarraud]

The tech behind this is truly amazing - this is going to bring such an amazing new level to the sim for everyone! @CaptMatto

[@christophfacebooker2618]

Perhaps you could add " facing east or facing west" when asking for pushback clearance. A really gorgeous program. Looking forward to it.

[@navylandsub]

This looks amazing! I can't wait for it to be released. The only thing I have a quarrel with right now is that you asked for 08L, Which is what the ATIS called for, but everyone else was going to 26R and 26L. I feel like it should have had you go to 26L/R instead since that's where it's sending everyone else.

[@jdshemp]

In real life They depart 26 right , arrive 26 Left or Depart 08 Left, and arrive 08 Right at LAS, if winds are extreme out of SW, they also land 19 right, and depart 19 left,I hope these custom runway usages can be someday instituted for each airport. I believe since the Los Angeles runway disaster, airports with parrelel runway configurations depart on the inboards,and arrive on the outboards,LAX does this.

[@navylandsub]

@@jdshemp Yeah I know that's the case. I was just thinking about how if it's not doing that it should still send you to the same runways it's sending everyone else.

[@malichos]

As usual you continue to impress Cap! We’re all very excited for this release. You and your partner working in this out here performing miracles for the MSFS community.

[@chriswatkinson93]

Absolutely amazing, can’t wait for release, if you need an English voice for pilot/atc you’ve got a volunteer here

[@taboo0]

I know you probably have a loaded schedule, but, I think an Australia/New Zealand flight would be awesome to showcase those accents etc.

[@russellfredric2509]

An Aussie accent might be a bridge too far... even for AI 😅

[@ErikFigueroa]

I'm wishing that you'll be getting a nice email from Jorg to license your tech for the sim, so that everyone can benefit from your work. Regardless of whether or not that happens, I'll be a happy customer once this releases!

[@charlie7mason]

That would be sheer perfection, were it to happen.

[@briancollins1475]

It sounds wonderful! Though I noted at 23:15 another a/c cleared for takeoff on 26R as we are rolling on 08L. I have paused it in anticipation of the smash! 😆

[@aboldone3187]

The voice is literally insane. Really great job done by you guys. I'm really looking forward to this!

[@kyledurch8824]

Looking great! One criticism during taxi: other aircraft were being directed to hold short or cross runway 26, but the active runway direction was 08, to which you were taxiing. In this case, 26 shouldn’t be mentioned. Perhaps this is an issue with defaults, but it would be more realistic for that traffic to match the active conditions. Please keep up the great work, this is very exciting!

[@kevo31415]

Hello! I met you at FSexpo and you kindly let me and my friend try this software. We are controllers on VATSIM and we were very impressed with the depth and phraseology this program uses. I see that my phraseology feedback "One Seven Seventeen Thousand Feet" has been implemented! This is impressive. I wish you well.

[@sparkymarky68]

The turbulence Pirep (had to look that up) - was crazy. Stay safe up there! I just do not understand how this works - its blown my mind. Cant wait for this to release.

[@birreboi]

Really looking forward to this, but also patient enough to wait until you guys get it as good as possible for release.

[@skipshifter9609]

Once again I am extremely impressed by this product. I will definitely purchase the premium voices because I don't get as much time on the sim as I would like. Therefore the cost should not be prohibited for me. I am happy that you are accepting public input but do not delay the release to accommodate everyone's needs.

[@Sanderkke]

Dude I absolutely love you for making this! Gonna be awesome, it already is. Can't wait to try it.

[@virtualDon]

It's funny to hear the AI interpret SID as "side" and Detroit Metro Wayne County as "WayneCo". As a retired controller from LA Center and current contract instructor at Washington Center, it bothered me to hear incorrect phraseology, mis-pronounced numbers and poor readbacks (no callsigns, etc) that were not corrected but it occurs to me that this is exactly what one hears in real life on the freq.! I just saw your interview with twotonemurphy and it sounds fantastic! I can't wait to install it!

[@SeanMacca]

Yeah, I was just getting ready to write a similar comment but saw this. It would be nice if the AI model maybe is updated to handle the abbreviations, and maybe make some random mis-pronunciations / mistakes randomly. If I could only pick one or the other though I rather have it read it back correctly, at least on the controller side.

[@daver7465]

Incredible, this looks like the ATC addon we've all been waiting for.

[@daver7465]

The controller at 32:06 sounds like the angry voice that feelthere uses in their most recent ATC Simulator...maybe slightly less angry lol

[@grahamwilman1896]

This is next level simulation you guys at beyond atc are doing an awesome job, this is definitely on my shopping list which I will be using in msfs 2024.

[@patches8291]

Very impressive and I love their intention to get the community involved into possibly adding new features into this amazing program…cannot wait for this.

[@happygoluckychappy]

Wow! This is what I'm talking about! Cannot wait for this to come out 😊. You guys are legends 🙌🏻

[@mcorrive12]

This looks like a game changer! I like using pilotedge once in a while, but sometimes I want the realism but not the stress, and this would be great for that. Also, pilotedge is still limited to the West Coast USA. I've never tried vatsim but I don't love the idea of one controller controlling so many areas on the same frequency. This really seems like a great solution! Thanks for all the effort!

[@shodnett1975]

This looks amazing. Just curious why the ATC cleared you for 8L and a Southwest plane for 26R at the same time.

[@thomasstandish8848]

I was interested until I saw/heard this. This tells me that it is not quite there yet.

[@gearpuller2315]

My thoughts exactly. Kinda ruined it for me right there. I’m guessing they’ll have it sorted out before release but I’ll wait until I see improvements before purchasing

[@lpburke86]

I mean if it ruined it for you, just use the free built in ATC since this isn’t any better because it made one mistake…. It’s total trash… Oh wait…. Y’all remind me of a guy I was next to on a plane back in 2002 who was losing his mind because the in flight WiFi went out… in 2002.

[@chitol1]

Thanks for doing this my hometown flight. I have been waiting for this for 20+ years. Never fly on VATSIM, or buy any ATC add on. Will buy this for sure

[@richardswede]

Boy do I want THIS NOW. This Sim needs this, I need this, 1000's of others need this. You have a Huge Hit here! Guys hurry up and get this out will you 'Please'.

[@ellonysman]

This should be part of MFS2024😅. A great teacher prior to hooking up on PilotEdge or Vatsim...great job, we salute YOU!❤😅

[@XkAp1]

Stunning! I'm really looking forward to BATC. Great Job guys!

[@jonahb.7119]

The AI pilots should also get communications wrong from time to time and ATC correct/ask for corrections. I cannot wait for this and am super excited to give this a go!

[@KrisOsterhout]

This looks great! I will say, some of those taxi instructions were a doozy. I'm not sure I'd remember "Taxi via Alpha-6, Alpha, Alpha-4, Charlie-4, Bravo, Charlie-2, Charlie, Charlie-1, Quebec, Romeo"

[@TypicalDutchSaysHi]

Climb via Saaid, you could sell it as local dialect :D In all, this is getting better each time. Amazing! Congratulations. But at 11:00 I really expected it to say something like "We have a number for you to call."

[@centaurixon]

This is really amazing. But what it would make perfect imho: Each section of the phrases are ending with a full stop, which you can clearly hear in the voice. In real ATC it's more like everything was one sentence, more like separated by commas. And in reality it sounds less pronounced, less "important", more casual and to some extend more "bored". This will make it harder to understand aswell, but will greatly improve realism. It's really hard to describe but I hope you'll get the point

[@JJNSMN1]

Agree

[@Jelly66Belly]

Looks amazing and the best I’ve seen so far. Just hope it’s priced so that it’s affordable 👍🏼

[@aneltoromanovic3362]

Hi guys, would you show more GA flyers in VFR confitions

[@brin57]

Awesome stuff. AI speech was my only reservation, and you have dealt with that beautifully. Exciting times.

[@PaddyFullyRandom]

Really looking forward to this and happy to pay. This will be a great in-between step to practice before going full-on VATSIM.

[@fulano86]

This is super cool and awesomely implemented! A couple of things though from the initial part of the video, usually airplanes getting switched to tower get told to monitor tower rather than contact tower. This will avoid each plane in the sequence from calling the tower to announce they're ready for takeoff and congesting the frequency. Instead the controller will just call the pilots in sequence and line them up/clear them for takeoff accordingly. Second thing, the only time a controller states "radar contact", at least in the US, is during initial radar identification which typically is during the departure phase(departure controller). Generally, once an airplane has been radar identified, there is no need for each controller after that to keep stating "radar contact". I'm really hoping Asobo/Microsoft will reach out to you and pay you a pretty penny to implement this in a future MSFS update. Keep up with the great work you're doing!

[@beyondatc]

Great feedback. We got similar feedback in the Discord, and this has already been fixed :)

[@neontree]

just 3 minutes into the video - HEAD BLOWN :) INSANE QUALITY!

[@dubstar1981]

WTF !? This is game changing … incredible work devs!

[@MegaPeedee]

Amazing. I have been waiting for this since this sim launched, as we all have no doubt.

[@bluebirdsim]

I am so excited for this! This will be the most important addon for MSFS ever :)

[@redtailpilot]

WOW! Waiting for something like this for over three decades of flight simming. Started with SubLogic, MSFS as a teen. Then went on to get my PPL twenty five years ago. This is going to be... "game changing"... and I don't use that word often 😂

[@QazmeHabu]

Was a bit hesitiant with the pricing etc. But hearing the voice in this video it really has impressed me. Like it largely sounds real, at least as close as I've ever heard. Only picked up on two things that need to be worked on, like Captain said, it saying SID wrong and when reading the clearance/taxi instruction etc it should says "Runway 2-6-Left" instead it says "RW 26 L". But very close - expect that to be worked out by release.

[@frontcentermusician]

This is so massive. Can't wait to give it a try. Pay plan sounds very reasonable too. Bring it on!!

[@avioniquesimulation]

Amazing ! We waited about that for a long time. Hope to get it compatible with xplane as well

[@vin340600]

This is top quality stuff.. Thanks for making Msfs even more immersive..

[@iamitscrizzy]

This is unbelievable. I can't wait for this!!!

[@f50pilot96]

This is just awesome!! Thank you in advance!!

[@jimmy8x541]

I've pretty much switched to DCS these days. But this mod is 100% going to get me back into MSFS and flying the PMDG again.

[@TKLleaks]

The product will be so good for us beginners that are horrified to do Vatsim right now. This will be such good practise for us

[@707liner8]

Wow, this sounds superb, can't wait for it to be released.

[@mattgan2051]

I’m Simmer from CHINA, would be nice if it support the metric rule as well, Thank you for making this nice addon!

[@GarrisIiari]

Hype cannot be any higher at this point. Really looking forward to this product, but agree you should take your time to make the best product possible.

[@billB101]

This looks so good, can't wait to check it out. Hopefully it will understand my Northern English accent :)

[@BroncoAviation]

I'm beyond impressed! Can't wait to use it in my livestreams . 😊

[@scottwiser]

Impressive. Can't wait for this to release.

[@highspec_tech90]

These premium voices will definitely be your U.S.P. It sounds like a live human, the previous (standard) voices, although much better than what we had before, still sounded a little like a mobile phone assistant. Put your main focus on these and I'm definitely in!

[@GordonKenaston]

Whaaaaat!? This is friggin awesome! I hope you guys all become millionaires for this 😊

[@GeekGamingCH]

AI can do crazy things and very happy to see that it can also give us an amazing sim experience. Thank you guys for your amazing job ❤

[@elanshudnow]

Absolutely amazing.

[@ChrisKarlic]

Awesome!!! Cant wait to try it out!

[@patrickunderwood5662]

Haven’t read all the comments, so forgive me if this a dumb question… are you going to use the default MSFS taxiways, or real taxiways (e.g. Justflight Real Taxiways USA)? Asking because if you don’t use the real taxiway assignments, for someone who’s trying to learn IRL-which seems to be the intent of your product-that would be really, really bad. :)

[@ChrisA7X89]

This is absolutely epic! Will be a big game changer for sure

[@drumcode420]

I mean you guys definitely have something going there. I feel as these voices are too clean and need more “radioing” and also I’m not fully onboard with the voice tones, something is off to me. These need to be a bit faster. This thing has great potential, I’m probably going to give it a go when it releases.

[@JGE_DK]

The more I see, the more I'm hyped!!! 😃

[@geardownandlocked]

Can't wait for this to release!

[@JamzProductionzz]

I love this, if I had to say anything it would be that some of the AI voices seem over excited and yelling back instructions etc. Any way to calm all that down it would be perfect.

[@miroslavshard]

Mindblowing 👀

[@nijelwaldon4415]

Also if a plane is taking off in front of you that is a heavy it would be nice to have caution wake turbulence.

[@artyomvachyan3448]

Great job! I have a question for the devs: are the frequencies based on the sim data? Because sometimes there is a difference between sim data and real world data (i.e. the sim can use the same frequency or even a backup frequency for tower, ground, etc.). Also, in large airports, are there going to be separate frequencies for , let's say, ground control? For example: ground west and ground east?

[@Hughes2405]

sounds quite good for US ATC, but I wonder, if you take other Countries characteristic in consideration? beginning with accents to the point of wordings... for example in Europe you say QNH instead of Altimeter for the ALT setting, you say "decimal" instead of "point" and call signs (numbers) are pronounced as "Delta 1 2 3 4" other then in the USA where you say "Delta 12 34" and consider different Transition Alt / levels for alle major countries? -Is VFR flight also considered, maybe even for different countries with it''s specific differences? -Could you add non normals /Emergencies? Like Emer descent, Engine Fail/Return, in Flight Diversion, weather /CB avoidance via Heading etc.?

[@Sataniceasterbunny]

brilliant! now we wait for the vfr atc interaction :)

[@NyashaM4]

Would be interesting to see something like this implemented in other sims like DCS

[@Not_Lewis]

I think that might open up some questionable situations with voices that sound all too real. "Viper 12 you're cleared to engage the Russian Fighter entering American Airspace" lol. idk i've never played DCS haha

[@Solo6R]

@@Not_Lewis ummm What?

[@MSJDesign]

@@Not_Lewis wtf are u talking about? the US doesn't divulge top secrete info like radio comms to civi's much less are their f-16s flying around listening to social media for their directives....

[@OrdinaryLatvian]

@@Not_Lewis Have you ever watched a movie? Played a video game? Listened to an audiobook? They're full of real recordings of people saying all kinds of things, and the world has yet to burn down.

[@brittanymcguire7996]

If the price is right with premium voices, done deal. PURCHASE DAY ONE!!! Willing to buy now in current state and Beta-Test if given the opportunity and sign a NDA if required. This is fantastic. Pro-ATC (overpriced) & Pilot2ATC just doesn't cut the cheese. Filling a MAJOR VOID and TERRIBLE FAILURE of MSFS2020 (most likely 2024). A feature in the GUI to turn off notification sounds would be nice (might already be in the settings). While I love Vatsim, the controlled airspaces are lacking anymore in the USA and this will be a great alternative for single player experience. VATSIM participation rules & required hours has really cut down on people willing to participate as the eyes in the sky.

[@chrisgard4076]

JUST Outstanding

[@vincenthale7728]

I am so ready for this, I am getting so fed up with Microsoft’s built in ATC. This looks like a significant improvement.

[@MSJDesign]

Not every airport uses the 80's robot voice for METAR info, they often loop a recording from the active controller

[@artyomvachyan3448]

Yeah, hopefully they will add an option to choose whether to use robotic voice or an AI human voice

[@jdshemp]

Or an airport specific mod file?

[@paulwain4248]

Cant wait for this to released :D

[@filipheeman]

Please show a vfr flight in a GA airplane. Can’t wait for Beyond ATC!

[@svenbe.4564]

I love the this new ATC tool already. Two things I see for improvement: The voices could sound even more like being on the radio. They are still very clear. Also, the taxi instructions are too fast or too long for longer taxi instructions. Like taxi to Runway01l via A6, B4, B, C, C4 and so on. That is going to be very difficult when playing in VR and not having something to make notes.

[@bongman123]

I hope the UK VFR is implemented!! Looks awesome!!

[@OperationDx1]

That's cool you can really mess it up and get back on track.

[@generalpointofview3606]

Any plans for adding configureable talking speeds to the controllers? Being able to set the controller's talking speed slow while you get used to reading back instructions, then being able to dial up the speed as you become for comfortable would be areally nice feature additon.

[@ErikFigueroa]

I think it'd be better to be able to ask ATC directly to repeat slowly, as would happen IRL. :)

[@andrewgonzalez4230]

Pretty cool to see MCRD off to the right of KSAN.

[@tyeman3039]

This is insane!

[@faztech]

Can't wait for the release

[@goalski134]

i (selfishly) feel as though you could release this now and just patch it as you go. i’d purchase it today!