BeyondATC - Full Flight with Traffic! (KJFK - KIAD)

[@randallmacdonald4851]

There are hundreds of thousands of people who, for whatever reason, cannot fly for real. This is so awesome. It makes FS2020 well worth flying. The magic that BATC is creating is unbelieveable. I've already purchased BATC so I am sooooooooo excited to get back into my sim and fly regularly!

[@al_zombee6851]

Ngl, this has helped me a lot with comms while studying

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

And for 99.99999999999% it's money, due to the insane costs of aircraft, fuel, maintenance, fees, liability, insurance. Increasing faster and far above CPI and inflation than even the out of control real estate market. Oh, to have lived and flown during the Golden Age of GA! I can't speak for how bad it's become in the US, but in Australia it has become an outright millionaires' playground. Even one of the recreational bug-smashers that I wouldn't take out for much more than around a circuit (*), will set you back $350,000! 🙄😭😲🤬 (*) Yes, I know that with the new regs, folks take their Jabirus and Topaz on x/c flights. Some even equip them for IFR. We all have different personal safety thresholds.

[@conlethbyrne4809]

Sounds very promising. 👍

[@MarcusSimmer1]

You're the first to combine AI traffic and AI ATC, which is such an important step towards a complete flight simulator. And you executed it so well! The level of immersion is insane now.Thank you!

[@richardhingston6073]

Nope. FSHud has been doing it for ages. Still, not to degrade BATC, which I have enjoyed too.

[@guiduz3469]

The traffic injector and related control is a fantastic addition by Beyond ATC! These guys clearly listen to their community. They've adjusted their pricing model to be more market-friendly and added this feature that many, including myself, were asking for to make virtual ATC truly immersive. I'm eagerly awaiting their integration with virtual ATC networks like VATSIM or IVAO-then it'll be perfect! Aside from the loudness of the voices and a couple of minor imperfections in the standard readback, I think it’s now totally worth it. Great job, Beyond ATC, and kudos for excellent product leadership!

[@vitormd1138]

You guys are doing an awesome job! Keep it going, this will be such a solid product!

[@arcangelkq]

WOW, Just wanted to say what a fantastic job you have all done......I only fly in VR, and BATC has put the biggest smile on my face with the addition of the vr panel. Amazing what you have done and can't wait to get the traffic injector next....keep up the great work...

[@Wilem35]

Vr panel? where?

[@frankvanderwerff4337]

Where do you get the VR panel?

[@kennykanada]

There was no update for me in Canada. Haven’t seen it as yet! 🙏

[@royvankan2723]

I knew from day 1, about a year ago, that this tool would become a success. A supporter since the announcement. Well done masters!

[@jamesd6952]

I did 4 test flights with the new Traffic and it works pretty well, the traffic tends to simulate the amount of traffic you would see IRL. Besides the very scripted responses from the ATC it was very enjoyable. I hope Asobo incorporates a similar ATC in 2024, they have said in the past that they are responsible for ATC and the community shouldn't have to buy an external program to do it for MSFS, and everything BATC is doing MSFS with its current ATC integration should be able to do right out of the box. Very excited for MSFS 2024.

[@ThomasGrillo]

Thank you for the flight. I'm very much looking forward to VFR functionality in BeyondATC. I'm legally blind, and don't see well enough to use Simbrief, and similar flight plan creation tools. Keep up the great works!

[@mikevadnais7722]

Just fantastic, straight and to the point, no nonsense. You guys truly chose the right path for this development of ATC. Providing what truly matters in ATC, and I and the rest of us really appreciate your efforts. Going for a flight not myself.

[@aaronwhite1786]

This looks pretty cool! I always enjoyed traffic injectors in past sims I've tried (I used one in X-Plane to try and liven up airports) but the biggest pain was always that it just seemed like I was just stuck inside of a world that existed around me, but not with me. Being able to hear the comms on the radio and see the other aircraft moving realistically looks great for immersion and much better than flying in and out of airports with either no traffic or planes that don't even notice you.

[@JmacFourLife]

Here first. Flying from RKSI to ZBAA with BATC with traffic. It's insane!!!

[@Austenmad24]

I used to have the standard version but now I've just upgraded to get the traffic and I love it,,,,i am getting practice for vatsim where I am very shy,,so thank you guys for your awesome work,,keep it up :)

[@BBoaBrim]

BATC is a fantastic way of getting used to ATC speak for those who want to VatSim but are apprehensive to do so. 👍

[@emsss78]

Been using BATC for quite a long time now and I'm happy with it despite some issues, i'll probably upgrade to the supporter's pack. Well done guys :)

[@GUnit2214]

It always amuses me how Captain does these need for speed taxi rolls 😁

[@HammieNL]

Wanted to catch up with the 380 I guess 😅

[@bjorn2625]

Once again, it’s a matter of time before Jorg comes knocking asking about a WT-style relationship. If he hasn’t already.

[@conlethbyrne4809]

What is Jorg?

[@bjorn2625]

@@conlethbyrne4809 Head of the MSFS franchise, Jörg Neumann.

[@AakashKalaria]

@@conlethbyrne4809 Why is Jorg?

[@777tripplesevent7luv]

You do an absolute amazing job in enhancing the simming experience and taking immersion to another level. The supporters package was a day-one-purchase for me. While flying using the experimental branch, I sometimes forget that the feature in fact still is in alpha…it’s already super sophisticated imo. I really love what you’re doing and l‘m looking forward to seeing some traffic enroute soon :)

[@noneofyourbusiness5074]

only thing missing now for a complete real life operation is the weather deviations, hope msfs 2024 implement a proper severe weather!!! what an awesome piece of software have these guys developed, well done BATC.

[@Ravasssz]

This is so incredible! Probably the most important advancement in flight simulation technology since they invented the yoke as a PC controller or the H.O.T.A.S. Even just a few years ago, no one would have believed we gonna get something like this. The voice of the controllers are so realistic I would not be able to tell who is the real person and who is the maker of this video. I wish you guys made a small app or program, where you can write your own lines and an A.I voice this realistic would read that out loud. This would be a dream of all DCS mission and campaign makers :D

[@techwhipped]

Will be upgrading to the supporter pack sometimes this week been enjoying BATC can't wait to see this go live for everyone.

[@Poseidon6363]

How do you upgrade to the supporters pack?

[@jhallock]

​​@@Poseidon6363 once you own the standard version, an upgrade option becomes available where you ordered it initially

[@2007johnrbanks]

I have been waiting for this from the first announcement. Well done!! I am beyond excited to become competent using BATC

[@Daniel-js8wc]

Just some tips for the ATC side: Unless pushing onto a taxiway, it’s typically push at your discretion or handled by the ramp control and not Ground which is of course different than most other countries. I don’t know if it was necessary in this case, but intersection departures require Runway ## at [intersection] phraseology. Wake turbulence in this case was not implemented correctly. A cautionary statement is good but the FAA requires a 3 minute hold for wake turbulence separation between a super and any other aircraft departing the same runway. Arrivals, tower in America will clear everyone to land right away with a sequence number within the few limitations set by the FAA, which is different from other countries who clear only one aircraft at a time to land a runway. You can view the FAA JO 7110.65W available for free through the FAA government site for all of the information regarding ATC in the U.S.

[@Pretender_Gamer]

Amazing job guys! Well done.

[@CockpitSimAviation]

I'm really thankful for their traffic injection; it's absolutely fantastic! ❣

[@Captain__Morpheus]

W movement Beyond ATC! Definitely helping those who aren’t ready or have Vatsim yet!

[@mrboss20ten]

This is fantastic. Makes everything immersive

[@R3dmanactual]

Sweet. Would be great if the controllers voices were different when switching frequencies.But Im sure you guys are working on that.😊

[@chrismckis6843]

Agree

[@GrammatonClerics]

As a New Yorker, I have to say - you nailed the NY accent from the controller LOL

[@a2rhombus2]

I can't wait for this to be released to the public, but it's very tempting to upgrade to the supporter pack to use it right now

[@stuarthodge3187]

Fantastic work, BATC!

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

Everybody is speaking so slow at JFK! Though I love that ATC almost has that Nuu Yoak accent! 😆 I swear there's even a touch of "how long till my shift is over?" tone in there! All snark aside, I wish there were more GA showcases. Not all of us pretend to be jetjocks, but fly the a/c that we could/would fly in RL, if the financials or medicals didn't keep us out of the real thing. Class D to class D with flight following. Fly a bugsmasher into class C/B (both with and without clearance- what happens when I bust airspace?)

[@aidenstanley7305]

JFK voice is definitely based off Kennedy Steve, and unfortunately the program doesn’t support VFR yet

[@jmythngdmb]

Yeah that’s Kennedy Steve alright lol I love it

[@TVSALMOS]

Ansioso pra ver o BATC operando aqui nos aeroportos do BRASIL. Logo comprarei.

[@JesusNameIsPower]

YES!!! THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HAARD WORK

[@bobhatcher5505]

Wow! amazing work, thank you so much for this product!

[@redwatch1100]

I think those passengers in the back especially got some severe whiplash on the taxi out. lol

[@TheReplayPlease]

When the traffic comes, they really need to work on the voices. It will need a lot more different voices and more radio noises. You have incredible potential. :)

[@hoseifaalabade3897]

Thanks for this great product and effort.

[@chrismckis6843]

Having realistic traffic separation will really add realism. Will traffic follow sids and stars?

[@fred2108]

Many thanks great job appreciate your hard work, really enjoying ATC 😊👍

[@Paul9601EX]

What I noticed BATC can’t handle a missed approach . Also when landed, you get a gate, but at the moment the gate is always occupied. But the experience is wonderful. You’re doing a great job as an enhancement of flight sim

[@NeonsStyleHD]

Looks great. Be awesome if you could set traffic volume to be lower than ATC between me and ATC.

[@jakew9887]

Great presentation. Thanks

[@stevesumner9988]

Is there a way to reduce ATC volume? The volume when I'm speaking to control is good. It's the others that need to be toned down a bit. THX

[@Gryper-c3s]

Still not vectoring for approach properly. Sending me straight to the final approach fix (FAF) or even inside of it in some cases. We need to be vectored to intercept the localizer BEFORE the FAF, not at it, something like 5 miles minimum. Plus the FMC in most airliners provides a ready path to the intercept point and the controller instructions are interfering with that. I just ignore the ATC instructions and fly my path to correct intercept point. Other than this, BATC does the job that the MSFS2020 default SHOULD be doing to begin with. But I really don't see a lot of AI involvement with BATC to the extent of the other product available elsewhere. Refine the ILS/LOC intercept and this will be a great product. I also notice some AI confusion with the top of decent sometimes, but it works out.

[@9livesReset]

very nice progress.

[@flighterer]

Hi, really amazing what you‘ve achieved here. Any chance you could make the planes not taxi to the threshold when there is a clearway before they set takeoff power? Or is that a sim limitation?

[@kennykanada]

Excellent! But where is the VR Panel? Was promised over a month ago 🙏

[@beyondatc]

It's been out for weeks. Check the discord for download instructions.

[@42LGK]

best money ive spent on the sim yet

[@flyguy7287]

Upgraded to supporter pack today and not disappointed! It’s so worth it for the added immersion. I know suggested traffic density setting is 5 but any noticeable change if increased?

[@stanleymasinde_]

Good job

[@macklaa]

Hello team. I have the standar version. When is the release for us for the trafic injection? Have a goos day!

[@usflyer2008]

Other than the minor “commu-tare” call sign, this is nothing short of spectacular 😮 Truly TRULY amazing 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😎😎😎

[@Redridge07]

@BeyondATC you should have the option to upgrade from the standard version to the supporter's version.

[@realwoodyhughes]

Feature Request: the ability to hear your VA mates who use BATC as well 😊

[@victoroos]

What is the background cabin announcement? :o

[@conlethbyrne4809]

I have this in mind as it seems like an excellent product. When you took off, you were vectored by the tower, so does that follow your flight plan? If not can you change the flight plan? Also if you're flying a light aircraft & visibility is so poor, can BATC "TALK YOU RIGHT DOWN TO THE GROUND?" Anyone who has BeyondATC, as he's a busy man. It diffnetly breaths more life into the simulator, nice landing. Slainte 👍

[@Gryper-c3s]

Still having issues such as going into KORD, the wind is 220@18 gusting 28 and ATC won't give me runway 22R. Only the 27s. I have to just close BATC and go it alone.

[@Ordinaryjoe326]

This is so fascinating! I dont get how it works. Does BeyondATC also include the co-pilot? Or is it another software that runs parallell with BeyondATC? Do you plan your flights in BeyondATC, or how does BeyondATC know where you are going?

[@doltBmB]

there is an auto-response function, which you could see as the copilot handling the radio I guess

[@limayankee9128]

When will it release for us that dont have supporters pack?

[@aidenstanley7305]

That would be making promises before they're ready, which is never a good thing because it's how you disappoint people.

[@HammieNL]

As always.. when ready

[@csyoutubeacc]

Excellent work guys but we do not get such long taxi clearances. Im a real world A320 Captain and I cant record or remember such a long complicated clearance. It never happens. We get progressive clearances Taxi B N Hold short delta. Then further clearance after Delta

[@patches8291]

Thank you….i was wondering if that’s how it was lol

[@Hoangnguyen00]

Can I ask BeyondATC can declare some emergency situation or Pilot deviation ?

[@mrmaestrom]

So apparently Ari Gold is a Delta captain now.

[@jonehardt2564]

O M G ! ! ! This video was phenomenal. Well, done guys. I am impressed. Thank you for the video. I have a couple questions if you don't mind. First, i noticed in the beginning of the video after you took off, you were having departure tell you turn by turn directions, but I did not see your Nav line in the beginning. Was this because you did not choose a SID? I noticed when ATC told you to fly own navigation you then chose to go direct to that way point. Second, after you landed, I noticed a menu you dropped down and was able to pick your gate. What add-on is that you are using? It said parking something at the top. Thanks

[@Ufo14McCalmon]

For your second question, the addon in question is called GSX Pro.

[@Daniel-js8wc]

For your first question, There are SIDs that are not RNAV. What this means is on departure, ATC will vector you to your first waypoint/fix. The aircraft does not show a route to that point because the database knows you will receive radar vectors. This video showed the JFK5 (Kennedy 5) RBV (Robbinsville) departure.

[@jonehardt2564]

@@Daniel-js8wc Thank you very much for the info. Just learning about this stuff.

[@Naturalezaenaltura]

Is the crew messages and cabin announcements at the beginning of the video part of Beyond ATC also?

[@aidenstanley7305]

It’s a feature of the Fenix A320, and it’s a custom announcement pack

[@topcat5687]

Question are the aircraft models from fsltl or fs traffic??

[@YoungGun821]

With 2024 coming soon, is this all going to have to be redone from scratch?

[@joellouisfire]

Great question. I wonder if they have been in communication with MS about the 2024 implementation

[@FlyWithMe_666]

6:24 what does this button/sound mean for the crew? I only know this sound as a passenger in the cabin. Thanks.

[@SpiritualAviator]

Its notifying the crew that they should wrap up whatever they are doing cause they moving. After that the pilot would announce to the crew to be seated and to be prepared for takeoff.

[@FlyWithMe_666]

@@SpiritualAviatorthanks!

[@SpiritualAviator]

@@FlyWithMe_666yeah NP, also there is another chime once the plane reached 10,000 feet and once it descended past 10,000 feet just in case you didn’t know.

[@FlyWithMe_666]

@@SpiritualAviatorand sometimes two chimes. I was wondering about this, too, actually. good to know.

[@Breenild]

Would it maybe be possible to put a kind of multiplayer component into beyondATC? If there are several users of this add-on, the clients could connect each other and generate a sequencing even for multiplayer users. That would be really awesome.

[@TVSALMOS]

I noticed that the voice that was controlling the ground and the tower at KJFK is the same! It hasn't changed

[@luiscurtolo]

They need to program something like: "Hey, Delta 2174, you Paul Walker or something? Taxing like it is the new fast n furous? I have a number for you to call" Specially at KJFK well known chatter sweetness hahaha Just kidding, amazing work guys Been waiting something like for ages.

[@mikecannon752]

Be interested to know the cost of this flight in Premium Characters with all the other AI traffic calls

[@luiscurtolo]

Will it work manage simrate x4 with PNF handling radios ?

[@rickmilian4994]

What do you do to mitigate the drop in FPS when traffic is injected? Your video seems to have a high FPS. I can't get my taxi and takeoff to look that smooth. Thanks.

[@luissuarez7623]

Are you using a addon for the turbulence effect inside the cockpit?

[@alwaysaviation22]

Hey, i am thinking about buying it but i don't know if with the traffic and everything, if it will be a hit on my pc. It it will it would be worth sticking to vatsim. Is there like a free trial with the ai traffic so i can see how it works with my pc, thanks

[@majorw9526]

🤩😍

[@ronsinda]

What number is best to set for traffic density. When I pick 6 it seems like too much talking and I have a hard time getting in. I’ve tried 3 also.

[@and696]

just to make sure! we still can just lissen the traffic from & to the same airport?

[@OIMA92]

Great

[@lauritamel9703]

En Frankfurt obtuve muy poco trafico porque?

[@CaptainKMan]

I weep for your Airbus brake discs. :D Great work on the traffic so far.

[@jonrichardson9223]

What are you using for the cabin sounds? I heard the announcements for departure going there for a minute...

[@WhiteHawk77]

Fenix has built in announcements and you can add your own from real recordings, there are a number of packs available on a discord channel.

[@doltBmB]

Any ETA for this coming to the basic edition?

[@matte2914]

what's the name of the addons that makes the calls of the f/o?

[@HatTrickCo]

What software are you using that calls out the checklist and spoilers and the cabin?

[@jmorrow51503]

Same! Definite interest in thtat!

[@HammieNL]

Fs2crew

[@PowerAirSimulations]

I thought it was FSFO

[@themorethemerrier281]

I am pretty sure he's using FSFO. They have a collaboration.

[@patches8291]

FSFO….i highly recommend it

[@dylancalheta6219]

2 times in a row I got vectored on a rediculous heading like left 065 when on a 20 mile final for the runway and because I didnt turn it ignored me completely until I do the unthinkable of turning 065 when on that heading that close to final. it did this the last time also but with more time to worry about it. Just a bug with the approach controller everything else seems to be working. Final being on 165 so essentially it is 100+ degrees out of alignment and where I had to make a RIGHT turn to correct onto final... Again strange conflicting instruction

[@UnitedAirlines4Life]

Sorry if I missed it but were these all premium voices?

[@TimmaMadiba]

Does it impact performance?

[@0bIivlon]

is there a rough estimate for when this will be released to the EA version? i’m a supporter already but just curious

[@GUnit2214]

No ETA from what i could gather on their Discord. I'm hoping by the end of the year...but don't quote me on that. Either jump in and get the supporter upgrade/pack now or wait until they reach to us standard backers. Look at the bright side the supporters are going through the testing and all frustrations and we'll get a more polished and less buggy version than what they have.

[@mikevadnais7722]

@@GUnit2214 I have the supporters update, and trust me, I am not frustrated in the least. For the most part it works exceptional.

[@GUnit2214]

@@mikevadnais7722 Honestly, i'm glad to hear that.

[@quanvu7672]

may standard pack includes traffic someday?

[@xKattattaKx]

Yes! That’s the next step :)

[@quanvu7672]

@@xKattattaKxokayy tksm

[@highaltitude787]

How is your sim so smooth? I stopped flying because it’s stuttering even with my rtx 4090

[@lgerman3811]

How much was that flight?

[@streamer6646]

👌

[@imgroot7035]

Do you have plan to implement live traffic?

[@MrTeee]

from their faq: Why are you not using live traffic? Are you planning to add it later? Various factors were evaluated such as costs, contracts, user feedback, system architecture, and development timeline. Based on these criteria, the choice was made not to use live traffic data. Tests showed minimal differences that most users won't notice. This setup offers a seamless experience without the complexities and costs of live traffic, allowing users to choose their flight times and experience busy airports. Currently, there are no plans to implement live traffic or support any other injectors.

[@imgroot7035]

@@MrTeee What a pity.. but thanks for the answer!

[@josesantiago8615]

It looks really good, but the FPS hit is big, and I have a 3090 NVIDIA. Hopefully will improve.

[@WhiteHawk77]

It’s not the GPU that’s really the factor, the CPU is.

[@highaltitude787]

@@WhiteHawk77I’m tired of the CPU issue. I stopped flying because of the stutters its immersion killer. I hope it’s resolved in msfs24

[@CellBlok69wLamp]

So, with this add-on I wont need like FSTL or FSTraffic I'm guessing?

[@highaltitude787]

I think you still need the models but not the injector

[@HammieNL]

Yep took me some time after installing why i had no traffic. You need FSTL (models) or AIG.

[@mkcycling5135]

Can I ask which first officer app has been used please

[@HammieNL]

Fs2crew

[@rayg1022able]

So, is the traffic version out yet?

[@OIMA92]

Not yet , it's only for the supporter pack

[@Official_Blair]

Anyone else getting bugged radio switches after the Traffic update?

[@LoCCr]

I switched to experimental mode, set traffic density to 6, but no traffic (eddf) to see...

[@aidenstanley7305]

You need a traffic model mod - try FSLTL - you just need the base models.

[@LoCCr]

@@aidenstanley7305 I thought I didn't need any extra tool and beyond atc did it all itself?

[@CentralFloridaHipHop]

When will this crack be released? I need it! Might just buy supporters package Lol