Bezzera BZ13 - A few weeks later

[@johntancredi748]

No tamping why ?

[@BeastModeBC]

I don't tamp. I use a weighted leveler and it's worked fantastic and produces nice firm pucks. I don't remember if I had it in this video though 🤷

[@ravynsage]

Thanks for the review! The other video was hilarious. Good to see honest examples of the challenges on these beasts.

[@44Bigs]

3:14 You sure like spinning that leveler, huh :)

[@BeastModeBC]

😂😂😂 Right?!

[@blizzbee]

That's more than 50spin lol 😆

[@american1911]

How is it possible to get a good shot without tamping? Interesting technique.

[@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo]

I'm using a bezzera strega , one time I got some new shot collar and was excited to try it out , I totally forgot to tamp my coffee, and the weirdest thing was that the flow was a little bit slower than usual...strange huh ?

[@johnwoodruff1878]

Get a Jack leveler, whole latte love , carries them.

[@damienhull6497]

Nice review! I got my BZ13 about 3 weeks ago. Love this machine. So far I’ve had about the same experience you have. I wanted the new version of this. Sold out when I tried to get it. I’m still happy with the BZ13. I don’t think you can get another PID machine at this price. The grinder and BZ13 combo makes awesome espresso and lattes.

[@BeastModeBC]

Good to hear you are happy with it! I hope to get 5-10 years out of it, but I get bored pretty quick so.. we'll see haha

[@JoeyWatsonReal]

1 year later, how are you liking the BZ13?

[@damienhull6497]

@@JoeyWatsonReal I like it. I've been having issues getting good shots. Just found out that my grinder might be the problem. Sent it in for repair. Hoping that fixes my espresso issues. Fast warm up times and PID control can't be found on other machines at this price. I think they have a new version of this machine. Might be worth checking it out.

[@sklineline]

Nice! I've had mine for over 4 years now and it's still working great and still looks brand new! I use the single dose button to flush it. About 2 seconds does the trick.

[@BeastModeBC]

Programmed the single just for that! Good to hear you're 4 years strong! Hoping the same

[@lucasgautier8373]

Had just gotten this machine as well! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@jbosch3362]

How is this machine. Do you enjoy it so far. Did you consider the appartemento?

[@damienhull6497]

@@jbosch3362 I was thinking about the appartemento. It doesn't have PID temperature control. Plus the BZ13 is cheaper. That's why I went with the BZ13. Amazing machine.

[@RomaniMTB]

3years later, still working fine?

[@BeastModeBC]

I'll be honest, I haven't used it in about a year. It's in storage after going through a divorce. Since we were over seas it took an incredibly long time to get my stuff from the military. Was working great before stowing it away though! I plan on taking it to a shop in town here soon just to make sure everything internal is good to go since it's been sitting for long time. So, we'll see!

[@RomaniMTB]

@@BeastModeBC rough times, hope you are doing better now! Thanks

[@BeastModeBC]

@@RomaniMTB Getting there 🤷. Life goes on eventually 😅

[@feelms4614]

Can I make several double shots, say 5, 7 shots one after the other without losing quality on this machine? Sometimes I have guests over and I don't want to wait for the machine to heat up again or something.

[@BeastModeBC]

@@feelms4614 Absolutely. The temperature is very very stable and works great pulling consecutive shots. Your annoying and limiting factor will be the water reservoir needing refilled.

[@coffeeauthority]

“Closerino”- love it

[@lejeq]

Great review. One thing -> You should start brewing the moment You lock portafilter in the machine. This is why the coffee flow was so fast. If You have doubts, do a comparison -> brew immediately vs 10 min insidie group. The coffee grind might be good. PS I am looking to get bezzera crema PID.

[@russharris8964]

Just received my BZ13. Love it. Your video is accurate. My knobs lock in the down position ☹️, though. I knew before hand they could go either way being handmade. Cheers!!

[@BeastModeBC]

I'm not sure which would be better haha up or down 😂. Enjoy your wonderful new machine!! 🎉🎊😎

[@rboeyen]

You can change that by undoing the nut a bit.

[@badi_music]

to get best results, you have to set the repression to 9 Bar instead of 10. give it a tray and see it yourself.

[@BeastModeBC]

I keep hearing that, and then hear don't touch it 😅

[@badi_music]

@@BeastModeBC There's no problem in calibrating it. see it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5e0hHWCg7mpm6s go strict to 6min30sec

[@ognjencorovic]

Pump at nearly 12 bar and no tamping done? What does your puck look like after pulling a shot?

[@BeastModeBC]

So to be fair, I was still dialing in a bit. It sits around 10.5-11 now with 20g no tamp with a nice clean puck 25-30 sec 1:1

[@thomasfitzgibbon1675]

@@BeastModeBC bruh your life will be so much better if you just adjust the OPV and tamp your coffee. Pressure and tamping the coffee are the absolute fundamentals to this idk why you’re bothering with one of those silly distribution tools. Tools like that basically do nothing, only flattens the top of the bed not all the way through. They were literally invented to score higher in the WBC for a flat puck and nothing else.

[@grzib]

I think you didn’t spin the leveller long enough

[@BenjaminBriu]

No tamping? That’s why it’s water u getting

[@BeastModeBC]

The grind was much too coarse.

[@jeftesantiago]

Amazing machine, I do think is a good option to upgrade to the rosewood accents!

[@damienhull6497]

I got the rosewood. Nice touch.

[@jeftesantiago]

@@damienhull6497 Yeah! I think that the rosewood accents looks better than the stock plastic, and give a nice touch to the machine!

[@frylock770]

Do you know if the bz13 has a 3 way solenoid valve?

[@damienhull6497]

Yes it does.

[@frylock770]

@@damienhull6497 Hi. Thanks for responding... can you link to anything that would support that? From my research it seems to be a 2 way valve only.

[@timjoris6]

@@frylock770 do you see that tiny tap below the manometer? That´s where the let off water/steam goes to

[@timjoris6]

Does your home not have heating or why does the weather influence anything?

[@BeastModeBC]

We have split units, and it doesn't heat the kitchen, so it gets pretty cold when it's 20 below freezing.

[@Maybaby1959]

That brew pressure is almost 12 bars?

[@jeftesantiago]

6:44, you need to throw it out this grind, or maybe half of it. The thing is that the old grind setting is already one it, this grind has a mixed grind setting with the old one. This situation end up in struggle dial in beans. If you don’t want to throw out some beans, use single dosing method on your Specialita. I hope this help you dial in better your coffee!

[@BeastModeBC]

I have it dialed in solid atm and you are right! I forgot about the old setting haha. Cant find one of those single dose billows available >

[@jeftesantiago]

@@BeastModeBC Maybe this would help: www.walmart.com/ip/Insect-and-Ant-Killer-Pesticide-Powder-Duster-Pest-Control-Duster-with-Extension-Nozzle-Bug-Duster-Evenly-Dispenses-Pesticide-to-Kill-Bugs-Pests/228759237

[@jeftesantiago]

4:49, the variation of the Bezzera Bz13 that you mentioned is the Bezzera Bz13 PM.

[@BeastModeBC]

You are correct! I remembered after the fact

[@thetruthh.8836]

The Bezzera Aria is even better.!

[@paulusandronicus]

its not out yet in NA, also thats just another E61

[@thetruthh.8836]

@@paulusandronicus yes but very well made ;).

[@paulusandronicus]

@@thetruthh.8836 you are very right, i watched the video of the machine internals and build and its such an excellent machine. That new pump they are using is very intriguing as well. Gotta love Bezzera!

[@Squilliam-Fancyson]

You could try to swap out the valve joysticks to ECM ones. These won't heat up that much. The valve asssemble is about 60$ and you can most likely reuse the stock steam wand.

[@milehiaviation]

Hm... where in CO do you live? I live in South Denver and my water is pretty soft.

[@BeastModeBC]

Aurora and Conifer. In Aurora all the faucets and showers need CLR for buildup about every 3-4 months. Conifer, 'well water.

[@badi_music]

ther's no problem calibrating the pressure to 9 bar and calibrating the grain machine accordingly to get the right grind. The higher the pressure is, the more soft the coffee should be. The lower the pressure is, the coarser the coffee should be.. see it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5e0hHWCg7mpm6s go strict to 6min30sec

[@bradenwhitaker997]

@beastmodebc did you mention wanting to plumb it in?

[@BeastModeBC]

If there was an option that would be nice

[@BigPoppa-t3z]

Better watch that limscale with that hard water. Also get a scale

[@ronaldsubba9041]

What size of gasket fits in grouphead?

[@BeastModeBC]

73x57x8mm x1 is what i ordered for it. Caffeworks

[@jeftesantiago]

3:33, If you do this, you are increasing your channeling possibilities! Try to be consistent and careful with that puck!

[@BeastModeBC]

To be honest with my naked filter I haven't had any channeling problems, but ill throw in some WDT

[@evakeizers9670]

I think it's a better idea to follow a course: how to make a decent espresso/cappuccino with your own espresso machine.

[@jennifermarchlewski1607]

How difficult is it to pull the machine out from under your cabinet to refill the reservoir?

[@BeastModeBC]

Incredibly easy. I just turn it sideways and refill.

[@mikediiorio7949]

Bezzera BZ13 PM Model Manual you have 13DE

[@shayn17]

You didn't spin enough the distributor... Strange thing i ever seen... and after all preparation the shot flow was too fast...

[@hassanelmasri4926]

Can you explain why you do not tamp?

[@BeastModeBC]

I just don't find the need. The pucks are compact and level just from the distribution tool

[@dimsler7934]

Heat Exchanger machine needs to be flushed before mounting the portafilter.

[@sat8540]

Please adjust the opv to 9bar first and then dial in ur shots. That 11bar shots r awful to taste man

[@BeastModeBC]

9 not 10? Just shove the blind basket in, run it, adjust and watch the Guage yea? I have everything pretty set in stone now and get consistent honey shots, but I'm down to experiment for sure.

[@Maybaby1959]

You need to check that temp. That water is boiling 🥵

[@jeftesantiago]

If you want, you can check this video out to learn to dial in coffee by the roast level: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJXCe2awqauAgMU

[@Mrakros666]

Thats a pretty coarse grind level. 9 seconds for almost 20gr

[@BeastModeBC]

Well, I did say it was trash 🤣

[@rickseneris]

Your brew pressure is too high, to begin with. Adjust it down to 9.5 bars first. Once you find the right grind size, brew pressure should be 9 bars max. Adjust the grind size up or down to maintain 9. bars on each shots. Up date: Your grind is too fine that's the reason your brew pressure is increasing. You're doing it all backward. Go coarser on your grind to lower your brew pressure down...It's pitiful to say you're getting confused.

[@Squilliam-Fancyson]

10-11 bars is just fine for vibe pump machines. There is a lot of pressure lost on the way where it's measured and where it actually finds it's way out of the group heads shower screen. Bezzera all sets their vibe. pump driven machines to 11bar and advise not to change it.

[@CH-yp5by]

Try your best not to touch the group head.... well duuuuuuuh !

[@johnnyrotten3116]

everythingarino

[@CCozart]

u said the f word..........hardly heard it though

[@CH-yp5by]

Pressure on the machine needs to be reduce to 9 bar from 10