How the soul falls into the material world? Prabhupada answers.

We are not the body, we are the soul. We are not from this material world.
We are eternal by nature. We came from the spiritual world.
But how did we fall into this miserable world?
Srila Prabhupada answers.

[@ziggyschumann5284]

Srila Prabhupada always speaks the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, no matter how unpalatable it may sound to the conditioned souls. 🙏🙏🙏

[@nityalila810]

The message is so strong and hitting the heart, that man could barely control his tears, it seems as he looks with those teary eyes at srila prabhupada , that yes I've found my Guru, now he is the one who will end all sorts of miseries in my life ...

[@mannemramankita2600]

Simply amazing and wonderful.😀 After so many years in KC so many like me try to find this answer why we fell from Spiritual world but even after hearing to all esoteric answers we find in scriptures, listening to Prabhupad's terrific statements it smashes my disobedient mind first focus on sadhana right now. Jai Srila Prabhupad. Jai Chaitanya Charan pr. Thank you for sharing🙏

[@Nothingis-r6v]

Jai Nitai-Gaurachandra

[@goairalgopal497]

হরে কৃষ্ণ 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🌻🌹🌺🐚🇧🇩

[@Ajaysharmavrindavan]

Statement is very clear

[@selfrealization4128]

Please post this types of videos more

[@pliniomartins5698]

🎉🎉🎉Hare Krishna Brasil Krishna Jay

[@knowledge9570]

HARE KRISHNA.

[@aditshukla]

Sri Srimad Gour Govinda Swami Maharaja comments: “Srila Prabhupada has on many occasions made different statements about this subject matter. He has also himself drawn the conclusion. When the conclusion is given, it is to be understood that whatever might have been said before, if it may appear to be different from that conclusion, for what ever reason, is now cancelled. The conclusion is what stands. “For example, Srila Prabhupada gives the following conclusion: *‘The conclusion is that no one falls from the spiritual world, or Vaikuntha, for it is the eternal abode.’ (SB 3.16.26 purport)* “What is Srila Prabhupada’s conclusion, that is what I accept. I accept Srila Prabhupada’s own conclusion, that is all”.

[@dhrumildave4221]

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare

[@Nothingis-r6v]

So you mean we fallen souls never went to the spiritual world?

[@aditshukla]

@@Nothingis-r6v Do you understand Hindi prabhu? I can send you a video which discusses this issue clearly from various points.

[@Nothingis-r6v]

@@aditshukla yes, please send. Hari Bol!

[@aditshukla]

@@Nothingis-r6v I have pasted the l-inks. If you cannot see them, go to Hari Parshad Das chnnl. Title सहृदय वैष्णवों सहित जीवतत्त्व पर विमर्श Date 24 July 2022

[@nagendrarp2453]

Hare Krishna guruji. Kindly send the link of the full interview please. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

[@JitendraKumar-yr2fl]

Hare Krishna prabhuji,iam jitendra kumar

[@LOGICALbeings]

Thank you 🙏

[@zzz12320]

❤

[@ddtkinggaming7359]

Hare Krishna

[@dahellrider]

Jaya srila prabhupada

[@keep__coming__back__6031]

Jagatguru Srila prabupada ki jai🥰

[@geraldogoncalves-campododharma]

🙌🏻🙏🏼

[@harshsaini7810]

What Type of Independence We Misuse in Spiritual world

[@vinaykumarmaryala9041]

To get attracted or have the tendency to make connections with arishadvargas.

[@SofiyaGustavo]

One of it is Desire to Be God ; and Evny

[@harishns98]

But after one reaches spiritual world, how is it possible to get any desire other than the desire to offer devotional service to Krishna

[@braveboy8176]

RAM RAM 🙏Bhagvan ne hme Aisa banaya hi kyo ki hm bhagvad dham me ya tatasth sthan me free will k kaaran ya kisi bhi reason se Bhagvan bannna chahe ya bhagvan ki tarah banna chahe ya bhagvan ki tarah bhokta ban na chahe aur ban nahi skte ye wish to vo bhi poori nahi kr skte aur unse dwesh irshya kr baithe aur Anadi kaal se kashta bhogne k liye badhya ho jaaye jbki swayam se kisi ka koi dwesh nahi hai koi bhi kashta bhogna nahi chahta kashta bhogne k liye badhya hota hai ... ​@@SofiyaGustavo

[@Nothingis-r6v]

​@@harishns98I think this is only in Goloka but in Vaikuntha the chances of misusing free will is still there. That is why I think Srila Prabhupada says finish your Krishna consciousness business in this life and go back to Home back to Godhead after which there is no return. Hare Krishna.

[@moirangthemalexander4880]

Do We come down to the material world as a human form or other lower species of life...?

[@CaitanyaChandraDasa]

Srimad Bhagavatam says that when the soul comes to the material world, the soul first appears as Lord Brahma (or in his planet) and from there he have the choice of going back to the spiritual world or gradually go down. Unfortunately we made the wrong choice :-(

[@moirangthemalexander4880]

@@CaitanyaChandraDasa that means you, me and everyone were Lord brahma once upon a time...? Again it is said that human form of life is achieved only after going evolution through 8.4 millions of species, and these 8.4 million forms exist simultaneously. That means some got human form at very first attempt. This will contradict your above statement. On other hand Scientists says life originate from chemical.. How do we understand all these differences.? Plz clear prabhu.

[@Azubjourni]

No that doesnt mean 8.4 million existed simultanously​@@moirangthemalexander4880

[@Nothingis-r6v]

​@@moirangthemalexander4880where is the contradiction? Could you please point out for me. My limited understanding is this but by His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada's mercy I might be right - "Yes, we may have been Lord Brahma once. And some made a choice to go back to Home back to Godhead while some 'desired' to be bhoktas and hence began the journey through 8.4 million yonis. Even if one got human life in this journey, first attempt or later, if he still 'desired' to enjoy as bhoktas he continued to fall. And maybe after falling since yugas he again got human life and now by Srila Prabhupada's grace we are understanding that now it is time to go back Home back to Godhead and don't make the mistake of 'desiring' to enjoy or forget your relationship with Krishna again otherwise you will again start the material process of birth and death and suffering again!" Hari Bol! Jai Srila Prabhupada! Hope it makes sense prabhuji? I'd like to hear from other exalted pure devotees. I need your guidance and mercy too. Hare Krishna. Dandwat Pranam. Apologies if I said anything improper. Please have mercy on this most fallen soul. Hari Bol Hare Krishna. Jai Nityananda. Jai Gauranga. Jai Jagatguru Srila Prabhupada!

[@sagar6135]

Where did prabhupada mentioned that jiva falls from spiritual world.

[@ziggyschumann5284]

Mu understanding is that when we leave the spiritual world, to enjoy without Krishna, we first take birth as Lord Brahma. I can see how this would be appealing to us. Srila Prabhupada said that if you re not jealous, you re in the spiritual world. We re all jealous of God. I know I am. He is the most powerful, rich, famous wise, beautiful, renounced person. He gets all the beautiful women. So, yeah, I can understand why sooo many ( unlimited ) have misused their independence. The good thing is we re on our way back, thanks to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. 🙏🙏🙏

[@aditshukla]

Sri Srimad Gour Govinda Swami Maharaja comments: “Srila Prabhupada has on many occasions made different statements about this subject matter. He has also himself drawn the conclusion. When the conclusion is given, it is to be understood that whatever might have been said before, if it may appear to be different from that conclusion, for what ever reason, is now cancelled. The conclusion is what stands. “For example, Srila Prabhupada gives the following conclusion: *‘The conclusion is that no one falls from the spiritual world, or Vaikuntha, for it is the eternal abode.’ (SB 3.16.26 purport)* “What is Srila Prabhupada’s conclusion, that is what I accept. I accept Srila Prabhupada’s own conclusion, that is all”.

[@braveboy8176]

​​​​​@@ziggyschumann5284Hare Krsna🙏Who created jeev souls IfBhagvan Krsna Didn't? Because no one wants to suffer but forced to suffer .Are jeevas orphans that is y we are Das Of God and Can't become God and God Krsna also don't have power to make charming Powerful shadaishwarya poorna totally like him .after using their free will but still jeev doesn't want to suffer Anyone does anywork whatever it can be Pap punya garhit works the reason behind is happiness . Why their is no freedom without freedom how can any one become happy. After using free will we came to this Prisonal material world even we didn't want to suffer...Really sorry if i made any offence Yes I'm scared and yes I feel scare too much in this material world...Hare Krsna🙏

[@Nothingis-r6v]

​@@aditshuklaso does this conclusion of Srila Prabhupada mean we fallen souls never went to the spiritual world?

[@aditshukla]

@@Nothingis-r6v There was never a time when we were in the Eternal Vaikuntha. Srila Prabhupada may have explained this issue differently due to some temporary circumstances, but he himself draws a conclusion as specified above.

[@beingfrank40]

🙏 Respectfully: still, WHY would the soul, in full happiness and bliss, decide to disobey God, and leave His presence?! It doesn't make sense to me-maybe at some oint I will understand, but so far, I can't grasp it. Hare Krishna! Jai Srila Prabhupada!

[@loweflev]

Ignorance ego. Belifs. Maya. Being fooled by tricks of society mind.

[@zzz12320]

CC Madhya 20.117 kṛṣṇa bhuli’ sei jīva anādi-bahirmukha ataeva māyā tāre deya saṁsāra-duḥkha kṛṣṇa bhuliya jīva bhoga vañcha kare pāśate māyā tāre jāpaṭiyā dhare [Prema-vivarta 6.2] Synonyms: kṛṣṇa bhuli’ - forgetting Kṛṣṇa; sei jīva - that living entity; anādi - from time immemorial; bahir-mukha - attracted by the external feature; ataeva - therefore; māyā - illusory energy; tāre - to him; deya - gives; saṁsāra-duḥkha - miseries of material existence. Translation: Forgetting Kṛṣṇa, the living entity has been attracted by the external feature from time immemorial. Therefore the illusory energy [māyā] gives him all kinds of misery in his material existence. Purport: When the living entity forgets his constitutional position as an eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa, he is immediately entrapped by the illusory, external energy. The living entity is originally part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa and is therefore the superior energy of Kṛṣṇa. He is endowed with inconceivable minute energy that works inconceivably within the body. However, the living entity, forgetting his position, is situated in material energy. The living entity is called the marginal energy because by nature he is spiritual but by forgetfulness he is situated in the material energy. Thus he has the power to live either in the material energy or in the spiritual energy, and for this reason he is called marginal energy. Being in the marginal position, he is sometimes attracted by the external, illusory energy, and this is the beginning of his material life. When he enters the material energy, he is subjected to the threefold time measurement - past, present and future. Past, present and future belong only to the material world; they do not exist in the spiritual world. The living entity is eternal, and he existed before the creation of this material world. Unfortunately he has forgotten his relationship with Kṛṣṇa. The living entity’s forgetfulness is described herein as anādi,which indicates that it has existed since time immemorial. One should understand that due to his desire to enjoy himself in competition with Kṛṣṇa, the living entity comes into material existence.

[@zzz12320]

when the soul turns his face away from krsna for some reason (bahirmukh in the verse) he falls down

[@zzz12320]

misuse of independence is the reason

[@beingfrank40]

@@loweflev I meant at the very beginning before we entered into Maya.

[@IrkyMan]

Ok, so always chanting Krishna Krishna without any work is the right way to control mind??

[@Nothingis-r6v]

chanting Hare Krishna is the most pious work or activity as per Srila Prabhupada. His Divine Grace Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada ki jai!

[@IrkyMan]

@@Nothingis-r6v someone brainwashed you well

[@Nothingis-r6v]

@@IrkyMan yes 😁 Srila Prabhupada ki jai! I willingly let His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada do it :)

[@JOHNNYFUTS]

Deviled egg? Dijon mustard?

[@radhabhaav9217]

Actually srila Prabhupada is not speaking the truth, he is saying there is free will and he is quoting yathechasi tatha kuru Verse from bhagwat Geeta as it is, but in reality this verse is just a mockery by Krishna, krishna is making joke with Arjun that if you think you can do otherwise, try 😉, because Krishna already said n explained him earlier that Arjun those who think they are the doers they are just fools, in this verse "mudha nabhi janati karta ahum iti manyate". So there is no free will, we are just puppets and many pure devotees including srila Prabhupada accepted atleast once in their lectures and poems

[@Azubjourni]

Dont say Srila Prabhupada lies, who are you? You are nothing!

[@radhabhaav9217]

@@Azubjourni read and try to understand under the guidance of a pure devotee, with your limited brain capacity you will not understand the higher truth.

[@Azubjourni]

@@radhabhaav9217 You dont get my point, you are going around making a wrong picture by saying he is lying. Who are you? People like you in the organisation are ultimately gonna completely change his book. You think you are above him.

[@Nothingis-r6v]

so, the terrorists and rapists, they are puppets, too?