Student Hostels in Germany : Rent, Process and Experience

[@BharatinGermany]

Everybody who has been asking about the rent structure: It's 305 Euros per month per person. Every person in Germany has his own room, that means the 305 Euros is for his own room. The toilets, kitchen area and store are shared by everybody! Don't forget to subscribe to the channel before you go! ;)

[@saladin8024]

Man it's too much! isn't there a way for a cheaper rent.

[@vibhu44983]

Bharat in Germany! Can i get admission in any course i have 10 years of gap after twelwth in india i have done nothing..

[@collegewaale]

Bharat in Germany! Bhaiya ....some cheaper hostels

[@zadonbiate7246]

305euro per month...isn't it too costly 😱

[@ravinagupta829]

hi

[@saibabu1246]

In France the hostels are given by the government they are way good and cheap and the government pay 40%of the rent for you. That is very good

[@rahuldevale7485]

Ty 😍✌ fr info

[@danishsheikh7397]

Brother, but there is no or very low tuition fees in Germany...

[@StayGhostly0]

Could you tell me about the fee structure n also the best Universities

[@nasrullahmakhdom8593]

Could u tell me about universities in Germany ?

[@charlesp5027]

Retrophiliac if you are French then it’s basically free but if you are a foreigner it’s still relatively cheap compared to us

[@vidhsatish]

Thanks Bharat. It's comforting for parents to see decent accommodation. Very useful videos. You have done a great job.

[@vidhsatish]

@ribon ruli what's lol in this??

[@crimsondevil668]

@@vidhsatish if ya asking the full form of lol it is laughing out loudly

[@vidhsatish]

@@crimsondevil668 thanks for the great reply🙄

[@alexanderpatnala8129]

you guys know each other ?

[@christypaul7348]

WELL OUR COLLEGE CAN FILL UP TO AROUND 20) MEMBERS IN SUCH AN APARTMENT

[@leeccilee7605]

where do you live?

[@kahunakorteze2763]

Christy Paul and you're not yet even kenyan 😅😅

[@violinistas3766]

Hahahahha

[@yashwanthsunder341]

When there r 20 members in an apartment ...Then it's not apartment it's college itself 😅😅

[@hemanshuchudasama3535]

Ise kahte he udta tir gand me lena

[@ahasanulmustafa6203]

Man everyone in this video is from mechatronics.... I am also pirsuing my BE and planning to come there for M.Sc in mechatronics..... Plz make videos which can help me and many people like me to get there.. Really helpful video! Thanks.

[@nishchalmishra9720]

Awesome video with great information about accommodation. Because in October i'll be there and i'll be coming for B.Arch. This information helps me a lot. Because i had little bit worry about the accommodation. And seriously you doing such a great job for Indian student. Your videos support me so much. Keep going bro and Best of luck :).

[@BharatinGermany]

Thanks Nishchal! As far as I know, TU Hamburg doesn't offer proper Architecture but rather Naval Architecture. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Ping us when you are here at once! :D

[@nishchalmishra9720]

Till 5th of July I'll get the offer letter then i'll tell you where i get the admission. But i might be get the admission in bonn city. And yes, defintly i'll ping you when ever i'll be there!

[@mdamirhussain1670]

Nishchal Mishra how u got admission there can u hlep me?

[@gouthams9907]

Nishchal Mishra How did u get the admission

[@Shalp432]

Great 👍🏻 Me too

[@Sunny-qe5el]

Wow, I loved the entire video. Thousand thanks for sharing it and providing us the insight about student hostels.

[@hanaineu]

This is so far the best video about student hostel ! I have some questions though : 1. So, hostel students is like accommodation provided by the university ? 2. Does Wohnung always means 1 apartment with many rooms ? 3. What do you call a room for one person with kitchen and bathroom ? I think I watched it somewhere and called Einzelzimmer but I am not sure. 4. How hot it could be in Germany ? And does sleeping without fan in bedroom is ok ? These are all my questions and I'd love to have english subtitle when the sound is not that clear (maybe because the space is too open like in public or big room). Danke schön !

[@unvish_music]

Good job! Keep it up, Bharat!

[@BharatinGermany]

Thanks Vishesh!

[@mobish5093]

Thanks man these videos are super useful. Thank you for this work.

[@satvikvemuganti6012]

That pressure cooker is our Indian's ID picture. Great video!!!

[@Coralcrue]

HI Bharat! I just love the quality of your videos. I think you are doing an amazing job by bringing Germany closer to the rest of us. Things we can't see, you have shown. I am going to subscribe to your channel in hopes of understanding life out there better through your thoughts. Thank you

[@BharatinGermany]

+Coral crue Thanks for such a lovely comment!

[@srvmahesh2972]

Bharat in Germany! Hey dude which University you taking video about can you tell name of it please

[@ias1849]

@@srvmahesh2972 It's TUHH, technical university of hamburg

[@fielonw]

Very good content!! I live in USA and the schools here charge an arm and leg 😂 if you know what I mean. I am looking for other options to get my education.

[@shantanuthak]

Yeah I know it's so expensive there 😣 where are you now mate?

[@Mikeedawson]

That bedsheet is Indian.. for sure.

[@sanjayrangkhol1922]

Bhai vornvita..

[@violinistas3766]

Hahahaha

[@Manu52498]

Sahi pakde hain

[@jeneeshr3569]

Thanks for putting all the efforts to record this video, really helpful to understand the hostel accommodation

[@Tracks777]

I enjoyed your video :)

[@anilsuryawanshi1095]

Nice one 😉

[@kj2066]

Hi. It will be really helpful if you would do a video on accommodation facilities N living situation for Indian females

[@BharatinGermany]

There is no difference here Kunal. They enjoy the same freedom as men.

[@EuroIndians]

accommodation for boys and girls are same in Germany

[@mscrazysugar1]

Do they have a curfew? Is there separate apartments for guys and girls?

[@jf7920]

Freenahmed no you have your own room, but have to share kitchen, living room and bath room with males and females

[@Pooh__7__]

@@BharatinGermany do we have to go and find a house in Germany or we get a hostel in our university in 800€

[@keizershot]

Oh yeah there’s a place to keep my wigs and props for cosplay events !!! I’m coming there

[@Tracks777]

I look forward to more videos

[@Post_grad]

Thanks for the video Bharath. It was very informative and interesting 👍

[@khalid1157]

300+ per month it'll go around 4lacs per year for just the Hostel .

[@kvnptl4400]

Hey Bharat, this is an excellent your of hostels. I was wondering how to select rooms and all, and now your video is helping me in selecting right one.

[@madhusmitaphukan99]

I loved this guy's voice ❤️

[@basir1035]

Wow!!! ..Its looking very good. Bharat da, Thanks a lot for sharing .

[@aditikatbamna]

Okay, that was a pretty cool piece of content!! very informative! Thank you for this! :)

[@deepsingh8247]

Aditi Katbamna ya really have u visited there

[@deepsingh8247]

Aditi Katbamna ya really have u visited there

[@deepsingh8247]

Aditi Katbamna ya really have u visited there??

[@AbdulGani98]

This was wonderful 👏🏻⚡️

[@gokusaiyan6809]

Please make a video on what kind of food they eat.

[@SHIVAMSINGH-ez4ly]

Make more videos like that ....keep it on bro...u r doing a great job..good luck

[@sauravbiswas1621]

'hey bharat really love your videos quite informative... If possible can you make a video on Indians studying medicine in Germany... and some information on it... thank u

[@arunshekhar]

Good info, esp for Hamburg. Another tip for students incase they don't get hostel as soon as they reach is to check for some good deals in booking.com or AirBnB for a week. This is reduce the stress of being 'homeless' in initial days and then search for hostel or WGs

[@dev4489]

Hi! Bharat. No need to say, great video and informative content as usual. I would like to ask that whether if students staying in these hostels are allowed to come and go as they please or is there a timing when the hostel is open and closed? Many thanks for the effort you are putting in.

[@kaihachenberg5951]

I have never heared of a student hostel (for universities) that have a defined closure time. They might get locket but if you are living there, you'll be provided a key to the front door.

[@dev4489]

Thanks man Kai Neahnung, but this is not the case for Indian universities, students are not allowed to go out after 10 at night. So that's why I was asking about the same. Anyhow, thanks a lot for answering.

[@BharatinGermany]

Indian universities and not allowed to go out after 10pm? This never happened in my university. Open 24x7. Which uni did you study at? :D

[@dev4489]

What I was trying to say is, that the universities do remain open 24x7, but you have to take special permission from hostel warden and then explain them where are you going at 2 am in night. And then there are gatekeepers at the entrance of the universities, they ask you some questions. And if everything clears out, then you are allowed to go out.

[@BharatinGermany]

Yeah, that sucks.

[@mikbe2579]

Compared with any other country in EU-Europe, student hostels in Germany are quite filthy and run-down, due to the free education system in Germany. "Cheap things are not good - And good things are not cheap!" If you are wise, try to obtain a scholarship for one of the posh private universities! Greetings from a German who studied abroad and at an elite, private university in Germany.

[@Neutron739]

Great Job. Really helpful..... Thanx

[@abhijitkole4854]

Yess this is really nice... Isn't it???

[@abhijitkole4854]

Truly.. they are doing great job..

[@saisrirajnallam]

Wow ...house looks soo beautiful

[@bweywb]

hey Bharat bro. I've just passed my 10th class And I'm interested in commerce but without maths. and my question is that can I get admission in Germany or *DAAD* University. after 12th.

[@rutiksanap]

Yes but you need 13 year schooling criteria because few universities ask for it few.Therefor you need to enroll after 12th in any 1 year course to complete this criteria

[@mc_uniqe4886]

hii bro i want to study under graduate can u plzz send the details of universities and i think germany is providing free education

[@edugoabroad4885]

Awesome content keeps making this kind of videos!

[@asadraza1022]

Hello #Bharat im from Pakistan and i really like ur videos its really helpful for new arrival students who want to study in Germany Actually bro we really love if u can share some vidoes with us that how Pakistani have their experience during their studies ... We really love to hear from our nationals .. Keep doing the hard work bro.

[@BharatinGermany]

+Asad Raza It's a good idea. Let me do what I can do. :)

[@asadraza1022]

Yeah sure bro , keep waiting :-) and its not a big deal if u cant cause of some issue .... U already help a lot thanks bro Wish u bxt of luck

[@shwetabhagwat9474]

Good work Bharat. U know I am Ur fan....Biased, but this is very helpful and u took efforts to get others help.

[@torimahel5578]

This accommodation good for both males and female of any origin

[@pranavkulkarni7265]

Thanks bharat to give us such wonderful experience through a video 😀

[@rahulrautela7215]

Hey bharat.... I wanna know that... kya german universities ki value world wide hai? and saari german state universities aachi h na???? Ya kuch hi state universities aachi h? means all german universities are good na?

[@rutiksanap]

Yes Rahul you know that ,The German universities are very old and few of them are established in 12 century also.They have very great alumni like Albert Einstein,Albert Schweitzer.

[@AkshitAgrey]

Hey Rahul, German Universities have world wide validation and they don't have systems like India fake universities or something. You can also check the ranking of Universities Rankings. Some of the best are TU full form is Technical University and then FH University of applied sciences.

[@mrb7931]

Music Factory can i date a German girl there??

[@AkshitAgrey]

Babul Choudhary it depends on your skills... Though it's easy to date a girl there in comparison to India, you only need guys and that's it

[@mrb7931]

Akshit Agrey 👍😊

[@myank7877]

Thank you so much bharat.....u r doing such a great work.

[@aayushdobhal3703]

hope to see u on the other side Bharat.

[@truthfu8896]

Great educational video

[@kimsonengti3897]

305 euros...that may be like 22000 rupess or may be more. Imagine 1 month hostel rent be like 20000+ rupeess. Damn its still alot

[@krishna7943]

Not by European standards

[@Never_again_against_anyone]

In most bigger cities here in Germany (even more so if there are many universities) this is cheap! Avoid Munich if you can, a friend of mine went there after bachelor studies and is even happy about paying 750€ a month for a room in a shared flat.

[@mixrable1212]

You typically get an allowance of 2500 EUR, which is about 1600 EUR after tax

[@PakistaniHindu786]

@@mixrable1212 Allowance for what ? From Government ?

[@cinnamonbun216]

you aren't paying any tuition fees.

[@kinjaldhanesha9149]

Truly amazing work by all the people out der and it's really helpful to the freshers..... good accommodation helpful people good facilities.... and all d people out der in video amazing guys

[@zoebkhan5068]

Gujju boy... 😅 Has stock of khakhra under the bed.

[@hiraktailor1916]

Gujju yes!!!!!!! Ha moj ha!!

[@naveeddumasia8861]

chaa ne khakra toh joie j

[@violinistas3766]

Gahahaha

[@shibasispatel6624]

First of all, you are doing great by making these videos. It really helps a lot of people. Thanks a lot for these. I am a 3rd year Computer Science undergrad at IIIT Bhubaneswar. I want to study MS in Germany. However I don't know anything about how to apply, what all exams I have to give and all. I believe that there are many peoples like me in India who are clueless about how should they apply and how much in average it would cost per annum etc. It would be great to make a video on that.

[@swapnilbose8465]

MS in Computer Science??

[@kamleshjsingh2115]

its actually quite nice.

[@kk12181]

Indian students and Germany should be thankful to you!

[@aaronnerella6907]

I like the pressure cooker! Typically Indian

[@chetansinhchauhan9930]

I am very happy bcz you talk in very details and 💯 true knowledge. Now i am in india but i will come to study in Germany for master in instrumentation or automation based course.. Thank you sir

[@CodeTechGenius5]

After gone this video i come to know that this video is particularly for student hostels but not for job seekers and professionals and more over student hostels tie-up with the university and obviously cost of monthly expensive can be lite less come pared to private hostels or rooms. i would like to suggest you to make couple videos for job seekers and professional living cost and rent etc. so it would be better to get the accommodation in easier way. i would really appreciate to make couple of videos am awaiting for your beautiful videos until see you bye.

[@manojaroraa7639]

dear bharat u are doing very good job god bless u

[@nagatalks8570]

What if I'm alone, how and with whom do i share the apartments?

[@RAJASTHANSTUDIOSHARMAJI]

It is very helpful for other indian who planed your study in aboard.....They learned how to solve our problem reletaed hostel..

[@jimkush100]

Awesome informative Video, Guys. Harsh, where are the hidden Khakhra Packets?? 😁😁

[@harshdhanesha7859]

Kushal Ramani hahaha...well they are already finished...new stock coming soon😂

[@graced.6711]

Kushal Ramani 😂😂😂😂

[@dhruvinrakholia9210]

Are you gujrati?

[@sricharan2136]

Dude can u please make a video on JOB OPPORTUNITIES in Germany for various engineering branches ? Especially for electrical and electronics field

[@rhymescartoonforkidsandchi1064]

Bharat U didn't said How Expensive the Student Hostel ?

[@hamzahasan6623]

I Learned a great deal today😊 thanks bro

[@RakshithPrakash]

only if I could afford a flight ticket FML 😂

[@BharatinGermany]

Lol XD

[@prasannakumar7181]

Same here bro

[@mohammadejaz3523]

What after one year hostel contract ends? If you have a 2 years programme.

[@cuteMrAngelit]

@@mohammadejaz3523 in that case you just make another 1 year contract

[@mohammadejaz3523]

@@cuteMrAngelit thank you

[@gauravmaheshwari7196]

thankyou so much for the video.. helped a lot !

[@Maricel_oronan]

I came here to learn how to invest after listening to a guy on radio talk about the importance of investing and how he made $460,000 in 4 months from $160k, somehow this video has helped shed light on some things, but I'm still confused, I'm a newbie and I'm open to ideas.

[@Tonyforeman659]

It is possible to produce superior performance provided you do something different from the majority. However most of us tend to pay more

[@SimonKelly7836]

Having monitored my portfolio performance which has made a jaw dropping $370k from just the past two quarters alone, I have learned why experienced traders make enormous returns from the seemingly unknown market.

[@pablosmith1747]

@@Tonyforeman659 Exactly, the trick is to diversify your investment, don't panic when everyone else is and invest consistently.

[@Maricel_oronan]

@@SimonKelly7836 Do you trade on your own?

[@SimonKelly7836]

@@Maricel_oronan Am trading with expert Mrs Mitchell Roland, a regulated broker in the US. Met her sometime early last year at a startup funding event. She had some interesting things to say about the state of algorithmic trading today.very obviously I'm seeing the results.

[@audiopodcastonly]

thanx for this amezing video it was a very nice experience by watching this video

[@chandrachoodkanithi4643]

they all from India🇮🇳????

[@Yourfashionoutlet]

Chandrachood such a funny name

[@nishantnakod9026]

@@Yourfashionoutlet 😂😂😂

[@arjunrajesh4907]

no

[@maldives-joshuajoseph6032]

Excellent video.

[@salonijethwa4862]

There is anything about that girls and boys hostel are diffrent in germany

[@wazihalam4005]

Yeah i have the ques...can girls and boys stay at different rooms of a same apartment... Like other 5 students

[@nandhakishor103]

I think so

[@soloiriyanni]

Nice topic, it sounds so easy, but i think in Munich its not the same. i had seen many ppl running for accomodation. well its my assumption only. :) good video again mate!

[@pankajgaurr]

What is the average cost for living in these hostels for 2 years?

[@surjeetsen8496]

PANKAJ GAUR 85,000

[@surjeetsen8496]

PANKAJ GAUR per month

[@pankajgaurr]

@Dharmik Trivedi yes come take me !!!!!!!

[@prasadp635]

How to apply for hostel in Germany , please share details about it.

[@shahidsaiyad685]

Hey thanks for information. I see that hostel fees is 305 euro . Can you please tell me what's the cost of private accommodation?

[@Zaaaaahid]

Hey Bharat, there is limited information or reviews about TUHH on internet. I believe it will really be helpful if you review the university and programs. Great videos. Cheers:)

[@BharatinGermany]

It's a good idea. But what do you think would be better? If I try to review it myself or try to find some people and their opinions about TUHH and their programs?

[@Zaaaaahid]

Bharat in Germany! Ofcourse no wonder even if you do, you will know it fully and then do. So we dont mind, if its coming from you alone or people from respective departments. We want to know where TUHH stands in Germany and how helpful are the courses. :)

[@BharatinGermany]

I will try to do it as soon as I get time Abdul.

[@shivanshsinghal1]

Hi what's the limit for doing part time jobs in Germany while full time study and also is it possible to do the jobs if you don't know German language or just a beginner in it??

[@arunshekhar]

During Semester, it is 20Hrs per week and during semester break it is 40hrs/week. Overall in an year maximum work limit is 120 days. (thesis and mandatory internship doesn't count in these 120days) Yes, usually language wont matter for student jobs.

[@shivanshsinghal1]

Arun Shekhar If I don't know German language can I get the pt job or not

[@mmaayyaannkk]

shivansh singhal if you want to do a part-time job you should know at least A2 level German because for German people English is a foreign language. Most of the people will talk in German so therefore it is necessary to learn German.

[@arunshekhar]

is this your first hand experience? or you talking based on what you hear or read on internet?? I have first hand experience where the language is not a barrier. also seen the same with many of my colleagues. For part-time jobs, in most cases it is not needed, unless you are job profile needs to interact with public. I'm not saying one needn't learn the language, of course it will be beneficial on long time and for full-time jobs.

[@shivanshsinghal1]

Arun Shekhar I was talking about what I heard on Internet Actually I am currently studying in class 11th.For bachelor's I want to study there. Can you provide your contact details for further information

[@derinsider3438]

Many thanks !

[@aradhyachandi6576]

Can I know the college name and the details Actually I wanna do my btech in germany so plz reply me

[@arjunrajesh4907]

hey is everything good?

[@aradhyachandi6576]

@@arjunrajesh4907 ya i completed my btech in india🙂😅

[@skm2506]

Great effort man

[@vivekraval73]

is he gujarati??

[@laura2066]

Awesome video!

[@jaisuneja2000]

Hey can i personally msg you? I want to ask few questions

[@dhirsingh6276]

Knowledgeable video and interesting thank you sir ji

[@thammalimahesh7225]

Sir Can I Come Germany on Job seeking visa

[@chetanprakash1770]

Yes, for more go on daad.delhi.com

[@divyanshushekharsingh4163]

I am currently studying in class 12th and preparing for JEE but I want to pursue my bachelor's in foreign. I have quite decent score of 93.8% in 10th grade. And I am expecting something around it in 12th too. But I do not have any sort of extracurricular activities and niether I have knowledge to write those SOP things. I just want to know can I go to great colleges in Germany like TU or even decent ones, If yes what should I do for ahead?

[@sks7848]

Bhai sab thik hai par lota kha hai bathroom mein

[@2morrowsTechnologytoday]

saurabh kr singh 😂😂😂 yar Western style

[@oliver-wb4np]

lmao😂😂

[@abdullayaqub3581]

Chutia

[@saurabhdhokale]

🤣🙌

[@aaryan_wagh125]

Amazing video ❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥

[@spamsxam825]

Bharat brother I wana ask some questions some I mention here can I get know your insta like this so I can text you brother 1:I wana Bro I'm planning after my graduation for MBA by Frankfurt university is it true that I don't get admission if I don't know German language 2:what's the procedure bro to get admission in university like toefl is there any exam I have to pass for get admission 3:how much it's cost for hostel and for living about 2 years in Indian rupees by your experience 4: is there any scholarships exams also for German university or how we get lower fees Can you please answer of my question cause I'm planning for next it's really important for me plsss plsss and plss make this type of video like for student who wana come Germany how much it's cost and how they come Germany plss

[@interstellar7823]

Hello, you asked a lot of important questions. But did you find answers for these?

[@khedhareeswari4700]

308 euro means 28000 per month it's really expensive and we also pay the tuition fee and transportation charges I think overall it's very expensive then too I feel exiting because it's a good experience in India we stay with our roommates we pay around 5000 per month but food facility is provided and too be Frank it's not that much good as germany hostel where we have separate rooms we can cook quiet interesting

[@aniruddhpawar4319]

Hello Bharat Sir, does every universities in Germany help to get accomodation, because i am searching for one in Munich but they have not yet suggested one, so i have directly applied to studentenwerk munich , but i don't know how it collaborates with the University? So if anyone has got a accomodation in studentenwerk,Munich please help me.

[@jyotisamal9550]

Hey there, I heard that college education is free in Germany, is it true?

[@shubhamtangadpalliwar2280]

How's the wifi speed there😜

[@shantanuthak]

Bohot jyda hongi 👻

[@arjunrajesh4907]

Ba.........

[@kaustavdas212]

It's really helpful.

[@AkashGaikwad]

Hello sir I am from Maharashtra, India I want to get an admission in TUHH for Ms in Mechanical Engineering Can I get some information Or sorry to say I want whole information So can I get in touch with you Can you provide me your email

[@amitcarbyne3635]

Bro if you’re vegetarian and not eating eggs too make sure you take proper vitamin supplements. Go to a nutritionist and find supplements you need to take.

[@VikramKumar-tk9eu]

hey bro... I am studying b.tech cse branch what the job scope in Germany and also is it suitable for the me or not. just you suggest to me how I will get the job in Germany. in my side Germany hostel is super I like so much of that type of hostel.it is just like a hotel.it quite different from indian hostel

[@mmaayyaannkk]

vikram victor it completely depends on your profile whether you will get a job or not. Even after studying in German universities student don't get jobs. You have to apply in lot of companies so that you can have a chance of being selected . If you want job in Germany it is necessary to learn German you should know at least B1 level German and atlast it completely depends on your CV or Resume .

[@mmaayyaannkk]

Jaswanth Dala bro I can give you a contact number of a guy which is currently studying in Germany. I got his number from Quora. He will help you in everything. if you want his email ID and WhatsApp no. tell me.

[@VikramKumar-tk9eu]

Mayank Sharma yes I want his what's app no.please give me.

[@VikramKumar-tk9eu]

Jaswanth Dala my FB I'd is vikram victor

[@mmaayyaannkk]

vikram victor bro send me a mail on the above mentioned I'd. i will mail his German number and email id to you

[@ranjeetkotarya]

You didn't show the washer dryer place there....

[@AsfandyarAfridi]

Whats your zodiac sign ?

[@arnavroy3383]

Asfandyar Khan Sagittarius

[@easyrangoli3015]

Hello Bharat in Germany you are doing a great job your videos are very helpful,my son is writing his 12th exam and want to go to Germany for engineering I have a question which language is appropriate for the bachelor degree /engineering/ English or German?

[@a-rajsingh-r9942]

I love you for doing this :)

[@vanishankar5305]

I liked this video very much. very helpful...giving lot of details. my neice in BONN has not be able to find a dorm accommodation till now. Are there similar students hostel in BONN too?

[@anaghashyam9845]

speaking of which, you guys watched that French movie L'auberge Espagnole? It's fantastic!

[@gagangomey7799]

Danke.!!!